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I think it's high time they dethrone his father this will reduce him to nothing and kill ipob

Cownu should be held responsible for all the death that has of occurred during the course of the agitation
He is a terrorist

No negotiations, he will think he's something Nigerians don't negotiate with terrorists

I salute cownu the terrorist he sabi business
he has effectively use innocent life to make money and fame but their spirit is now disturbing him so Nigerians turn against him.
I can see many internet warriors here


ipob miserable fellow(IMF) spoted

I learnt it's Biafra or death
but when cownu saw death he fled
his kings men said he who fight and run live to fight another day, but that's not his case he ran away totally without fighting even he hasn't been seen till now.
biafrans should just have faith in fayose and support his ambition, he will give you biafra since you are gullible to be use for any ambition

they said Biafra or death
Nigerians said no Biafra but there is death
but when they see death their wretched leader flee. since cownu has failed you just have faith in fayose maybe he will actualise Biafra for you if he became president.
igbos are effective tool for any agenda since they are gullible.

which threat did ipoo have except empty threats, just trying to be relevant. the government is passively watching in patience, non of these igbo generation have seen war even an igbo infant is posting from his room.
warn that cow bent going to the abattoir for the abattoir only takes it never gives, let the cow beware.
A dog that is destined to doom will not here the whistle of the hunter.

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I don't blame them, when the Christian owner of Yale biscuits was asked why he used swine in spite knowing Moslems don't eat it in producing his biscuits, he said it live on radio that his biscuits are not meant for Muslim's and it's not by force they buy it.it's just that Christians don't have the ability,if they have the capacity to hurt Muslim's they will do it instantly with no second thought.

you are even about to and you speak as if you don hamma, just plan well so you won't go from frying pan to fire

so as the community remote like mad, not even a single road track. north has a long way to go

wonder why pastors are rich ? just imagine 100 tithe each from this crowd

i smell skeleton in this man's cupboard or do you think its rational to make money from three days crusade and gave all to a prostitute without any hidden motive. although this lady may be sponsored but that doesnt mean its a false accusation or is he the only apostle in nigeria, why him ?

i smell lies, I can see an abuja highway among the posted pictures.

When you guys keep disputing a verse as clear as this, what if it was the biblical version of this same topic ?
We muslims are not those who will conceal some part of the scripture,so lets address issue the way it is.

If something of this nature doesn't match, I don't think non will till the descendant of prophet Isa( asw).

secondly we all know the authenticity of the Quran is of no doubt, all we are trying to do is to ascertain it to the world so your coupled eeman claim is obsolete.

The Quran and the hadith encourage us to seek knowledge and doing research is also a form of knowledge seeking.

Those to whom we have given the book(the quran) study it as it should be studied: they are the one that believe therein: those who reject faith therein the loss is their own.(Quran, 2:121)

and also the hadith "seeking knowledge is incumbent upon every Muslim" (Ibn Majah 1/224 and tirmidhi)

from the above, it is manifest that making enquiry about what is vague or cryptic is valid in islam.

CONTD

One such point occurs in the mention of Alexander's westward journey (vs86).He saw the sun set in a piece of murky water which is described as a "spring". Most Commentators have understood the " spring" to be the sea, and the "murky water". to be its dark-blue water,Nizami, in his Romance of Alexander, takes the Alexander right west along North Africa to Andalusia and the Atlantic ocean. There is no historic proof that Alexander ever reach the Atlantic. But he was of course familiar with the deep blue waters of the Mediterranean. The Mediterranean interpretation may pass if we had not a closer explanation. Alexander's first exploit were where he was a mere boy, in the reign of his father Philip. The region if Illyricum was due west of Macedonia, and Macedonia's first expansion was in that direction. The town of Lychnis was annexed to Macedonia and thus the western frontier of Macedonia was secured. The northern frontier towards the Danube had already been secured, and the lesson he subsequently gave to The be secured him againt attack from the Greek states to the south, and prepared way for his great march east against the Persian Empire. To the west of the town of Lychnis is a lake 170 square miles in area, fed by underground springs that issue through limestone rocks and give out murky water. Both town and lake are now called Ochrida, about 50 miles west of Monastir. The water is so dark that the river which forms outlet of the lake to the north is called the Black Drin. Looking at the sunset from above the town, the observer would see the sun set in a pool of murky water (vs 86). It was a question before the boy Alexander --- the dreamy, the impulsive, fearless rider--- whether he would put the barbarous Illyricans to the sword or to show them mercy. He showed true discrimination and statesmanship. He punished the guilt but showed kindness to the innocent, and thus consolidated his power in the west. This I construe to be meaning of (vs 86-87); otherwise these verses do not seem to be perfectly clear.

Another point may be noted. The three episodes mentioned are the journey to the west , the journey to the east, and the journey to the Iron Gate. The journey to the east was to the Persian Empire. Here he found a people who lived in an inland place in the latitude of Persepolis or Multan. He left them alone as they were(vs91). He was not warring against populations : he was warring against the proud but effete Persian Empire. He left them as they were,with their local institutions, and under their local chiefs. In feeling he treated them as his own, not as aliens. In some things he himself adopted their ways. His followers misunderstood him. But God understood, for He approves of all things that lead to unity among mankind.

The direction of the third journey is not mentioned. The Commentators suggest the north, but they might with better reason have suggested the south, as Alexander visited Egypt. But the visit to the Iron Gates was to the East ---- a continuation of his journey east. That is why the direction is not mentioned again. Here his mission was different. He had to protect a peaceful industrious population, whom perhaps the Persian Empire has failed to protect, against turbulent and restless invaders. He helped them to protect themselves, but warned them that all human precautions, though good and necessary, are vain without God's help.

Each of the episodes mentioned is historical. But the pomp and glitter of military conquest are not mentioned. On the contrary spiritual motives are revealed and commended. We need not to know or learn any history or geography or science or psychology or ethnics to understand them. But the more real knowledge we have, the more completely shall we understand them and the lesson to be drawn from them. The earthly journeys are treated as a mere symbols to show us the evolution of a great and a noble soul which achieved so much in a short earthly life. Alexander was a focus of Christian and Jewish learning for some centuries. The Christians also made Alexander a saint. The Jews carried the Alexander cycle into the East.
Personally, I have not the least doubt that dhul-qarnain is meant to be Alexander the Great, the historic Alexander, and not the legendary Alexander.

Actually I appreciate ur contribution, but if he wasn't him then who was dhul-qarnain or did he just exist in theoretical state ?
and before you conclude,why can't u just read the part 2 I posted.

CONTD

If we could locate the iron barrier or gates referred to in vs 96, we should have a closer idea of the tribes whom the barrier was meant to keep out. It is obvious that the great wall of China is out of the question. Begun in the third century B.C. and continued later, it covers the enormous length of 1,500 miles, and goes up the hills and down the valleys, with towers 40 feet high at intervals of 200 yards. Its average height is 20 to 30 feet. It is built of stone and earth. There is no particular point in which can be identified with the iron barrier in the text. No one has suggested that dhul-qarnain was a Chinese Emperor, and none of the great conquerors of western Asia can be credited with the building of the Chinese wall.
The barrier in the text must have been more in the nature of iron gates than iron wall. Two iron gates, geographically far apart, have been suggested in the alternative. Sometimes they have been mixed up by writers not strong in geography. Both of them have local associations with the name of Alexander the Great. Both are near a town Dorbend, and have borne the name of Bab-ul-hadid (Arabic for "Iron Gate". Let us examine the case of each in turn.

The best known in modern times is at the town of Derbend in the middle of the Western coast of the Caspian sea. it is now in Soviet territory. in the district of Daghistan. Before the southern expansion of Russia in 1813 it belonged to Persia. A spur of Mount Caucasus here comes up north, close to the sea. The Wall in question is 50 miles long, with an average height of 29 feet. As Azerbaijan (in Persia) is not far from this place, some writers have mixed up the Derbend Iron Gate with Azarbaijan, and some with the Caucasian town of kharz (Kars), which is to the south of the Caucasus. There are local tradition here, and in the Astrakhan region, at the mouth of the river volga, higher up the Caspian, connecting this Caucasian Iron Gate with the name of Alexander, but there good reason why we should reject this site as the site of the Iron Gate in the Quranic story. (1) This does not correspond exactly to the description in vs96 (the space between two steep mountain sides); the gap is between the mountain and the sea. (2) Alexander the Great(assuming dhul-qarnain is Alexander), is not known to have crossed the Caucasus. (3) There is an Iron Gate which corresponds exactly to the description, in a locality which we know Alexander to have visited. (4) In the early days, when Muslims spread to all parts of the world, local legend were started by ignorant people connecting the places they knew with places referred to in the Qur-an.

we now come to the iron gate which corresponds exactly to the Quranic description, and has the best claim to be connected with Alexander's story. It is near another Derbend in Central Asia, Hissar District, about 150 miles southeast of Bukhara. A very narrow defile,with overhanging rocks, occurs on the main route between Turkestan and India: latitude 38 N ; longitude 67 E. It is now called in Turki Buzghol-khana (Goat house), but was formally known as the Iron Gate (Arabic,Bab-ul-hadid ; Persian, Dar-i-ahani, Chinese T'ie-men-kuan). There is no iron gate there now, but there was one in the seventh century, when the Chinese traveler Hiouen Tsiang saw it on his journey to India. He saw two folding gates cased with iron and hung with bells. Near by is a lake named Iskander Kul, connecting the locality with Alexander the Great. We know from history that Alexander after his conquest of Persia and before his journey to India, visited Sogdiana (Bukhara) and maracanda (samarqand). We also know from Muqaddasi, the Arab traveller and geographer, who wrote A.H. 375 (A.D. 985.6) that the 'Abbasi Khalifa Wathiq (842-846 A.D.) sent out a mission to central Asia to report to this iron Gate. They found the defile 150 yard wide : on two jambs made with bricks of iron welded together with molten lead, were hung two huge gates, which were kept close. Nothing could correspond more exactly with the description in vs 95-96.

If then the Barrier in vs 95-98 refers to the Iron Gate near Bukhara, we are able to proceed to a consideration of Gig and Magog people with some confidence. They were Mongol tribes on the other side of the Barrier, while the industrious men who did not understand dhul-qarnain's language were the Turks, with their agglutinative language, so different from the language then spoken in Western Asia. The Barrier served its purpose for the time being. But the warning that the time must come when it will crumble to dust has also come true, It has crumble to dust. Long since the mongols push through in their westward journey, pushing the Turks before them, and the Turks became a European Power and have still a footing in Europe. We need not bother about the legend of the Gog and Magog people. They were reputed giants, and two tiny hills in flat Cambridgeshire are derisively called the Gog-Magog hills ! similarly the statues of Gig and Magog in the Guildhall in london , which M.M.A. takes so seriously, In the Alexander's legend of medieval Europe, Gog and Magog are said to have come with 400,000 men to the help of porus whom Alexander defeated, and to have fled after that defeat. They fled to the mountains, and Alexander built a wall with brass gates too prevent their eruptions. see Paul Meyer,Alexander le Grand Dans la literature francaise due Moyen Age: Paris, 1886 ; vol.2 pp. 386-389.
TO CONCLUSION PART (PART 3)

what is the meaning of name or the title dhul-qarnain--"Lord of the two Qarns" ? "Qarns may mean: (1) a horn in a literal sense,as in the case of a ram or bull ; (2) a horn in a methaphorical sense, as in English,the horn of a crescent, or by further metaphor (not in English language), the horn of a kingdom or territory,two portion of opposite end ; (3) by another metaphor, a summit, a lock of hair, typifying strength, a crest such as eastern kings wear on their diadems; (4) reffering to time,an epoch, an age, a generation, meaning (1) is inapplicable to a man or a great King. The other meanings may be applicable implying: (2) lord of the east and the west,lord of wide territory or two kingdoms; (3) lord of two crests on his diadem,typifying two kingdoms, or a rank superior to that of an ordinary king; (4) lord of more than one epoch:one whose power and influence extend far beyond his life time.
if we accept the popular identification of dhul-qarnain with Alexander,all three latter designation would be applicable to him,as he was lord of the west and the east, lord of the Greek states united for the first time (Hellenic captain general) and of the widely extended Persian dominion which included all western Asia,Egypt,central Asia,Afghanistan, and the Punjab(at least portions). He is represented on his coins with two horn on his head: he considered himself as son of Jupiter Ammon (who had the two horns of a ram),with a devine mission . He revolutionised the history of Asia, Europe, and Africa(Egypt),and his influence lasted many generation after his death at the young age of 33. He lived from B.C. 356 to 323, but his name was one to conjure with for many centuries after him. Though his conquest Greek art gave the impulse to Gandhara art in central Asia and north west India. The city of Alexandria which he founded in Egypt became the cultural centre, not only for Greece and Rome, but for Judaism and Christianity, and retain its supremacy till the sixth century of the Christian era. Justinian closed its school of philosophy in 529. Its philosophic and scientific schools spread their influence over even a wider area than the Mediterranean basin.
Now the generality of the world of Islam have accepted Alexander the great as the one meant by the epithet dhul-qarnain. But some of our 'Ulama have raised doubt about it and made other suggestions. one is that it was not the Macedonian Alexander the great,but an earlier prehistoric king contemporary with Abraham; because, they say, dhul-qarnain was a man of faith (vs,88,98) while Alexander the great was a pagan and believed in Grecian gods. An identification with a supposed prehistoric king, about whom nothing is known, is no identification at all. on the other hand, all that is known about Alexander the great shows that he was a man of lofty ideas. He died over three centuries before the time of Jesus, but that does not mean they he was not a man of faith, for God revealed Himself to men of all nations in all ages. Alexander was a disciples of the philosopher Aristotle, noted for his pursuit of sound Truth in all departments of thought. Alexander's reference to Jupiter Ammon may have been no more than a playful reference to the superstitions of his time. Socrates spoke of the Gracian gods, and so did Aristotle and Plato; but it would be wrong to call them idolaters or men without faith. In Ethiopic traditional stories of Alexander the great, he is represented as a great prophet.
Another suggestion made is that Dhul-qarnain was an ancient king of Persia. A king of Persia is referred to as a Ram with two horns in the book of Daniel (viii, 3) in the old testament. But in the same book ,the Ram with two horn was smitten, cast down to the ground, and stamped upon by a he goat with two horns(viii.7-. There is nothing in our literature to suggest that dhul-qarnain came to such ignominious end. Nor is the book of Daniel an authority worth consideration. Its authenticity is very doubtful. There is no question that it is a patch work, as part of it are in the Aramaic (or Chaldee) language and parts in Hebrew, and there are in it a number of Greek words. The Septuagint version contained large additions. 'Daniel " --whoever the writer or writers were -- refers to historical Persian kings. If it is argued that it was some prehistoric Persian king who built the Iron Gates(vs 96) to keep out Gog and Magog tribes(vs 94),this is no identification at all. There is no unanimity about the identity of the Iron Wall, or the Gog and Magog tribes. Both these subjects will be referred to presently.
Another suggestion made is that it was some old prehistoric Himyarite king from Yemen, about whom nothing was known. This, again, is no identification at all.
The question of Yajuj and majuj (Gog and Magog) and the iron Barrier built to keep them out is some interest. It is practically agreed that they were wild tribes of central Asia which have made inroads on settled kingdoms and Empires at various stage of the world's history. The Chinese Empire suffered from their incursions and built the Great wall of China to keep out the Manchus and mangols. The Persian suffered from them at various times and various points. Their incursions into Europe in large hordes caused migrations and displacement of population on an enormous scale, and eventually broke up the Romans as "Scythians", but that term does not help us very much, either ethnically or geographically.
TO PART 2

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Dnt try to twist allah's word to please the westerners,all sacred text in the quran is absolute and infallible.I think its obvious from the verse itself that allah(swt) statement does not necessarilly denote beating woman that is why suggestions are made in steps from the verse unless those in whose heart is a disease of hypocrisy trying to twist it.The word doraba and its real meaning(to beat) cant be abrogated from the verse as it is the verb which suits the sentence so and the most widely accepted ,to strike lightly is allowed in the extreme case which i knw its impossible to attain rationally which automatically means beating is not allowed as its not of the sunnah of the prophet(pbuh).

na lie joor,he is just joking, Africans especially Nigerians can't commit suicide. we no resemble oyinbo now.

Why didnt you quote isiah 42vs8 and isiah 43vs10-11 and also mark 12:3,that is the problem with xtainity they keep givin jesus promotion everyday.

we all knw 5.0 is not easy,but he has already been conferred honour by the sch and other agency or should we give him the whole nigerian fortune because he has 5.0,this guy is becoming an opportunist.

Its easy to identify a biafran writeup,of what relevant is the so called dada that his attention will be expedient to the president,afteral he has already been honoured by the institution which is a federal sch,he already has a certificate so he should look for job and contribute his quota to the society.

Thats what to expect when your parent sell paraga

the mother needs interogation,as vast as the north is how did she know the ese was taken to kano and specifically the emir's palace if she didnt knw abt their relationship

I knw one day igbo people will die in enmity and of heart attack of this president,haters keep hating he is already above u,PMB can even buy the entire igbo race.

Im an nce graduate(phy/che) and i want to study chemistry in UI via DE,pls what are their requirement and procedure 4 DE and how easy is UI admission because i dnt want to wast my time..pls i need ur response.

Pls does unilag accept NCE(phy/chem) for DE into pure and applied chemistry,i need ur opinion