₦airaland Forum

Itsrm:
Apkabio gave him soft landing.

Yes

izzou:

I wan hold ham for neck. 😂

BlueRayDick:
That's why it is their internal issue and they should be allowed to handle their internal matters. If the people in the country are saying democracy has not favored them why must America force feed them same?

All US cares about is democracy and their interests in West Africa; it's obvious by their body language

Who are the people that said democracy hasn't favored them? The coupist?

Unlimited22:
How's this any different from what's happening in Guinea and Mali?

Why must the Niger people hand over Power back NOW?

For one, the person that ousted was just democratically elected just a year back.

Negotiations is where modalities will be ironed out but in situations where the coupist are not ready for any negotiations, there won't be any choice than military intervention.

One thing I do agree with is that military intervention will further escalate issue but sometimes its needed.

BlueRayDick:
Well I can't but see America as meddlesome interloper if they will look away from countries they "mentor" when things do go right under democracy, but they will suddenly find voice the moment democracy is threatened in such countries. It's like, they actually do not care about anything aside democracy.

Damn if they do, damn if they do not. 😂

You know if they interfere in a democratic elected govt administration, they will be known as meddlesome interloper also right?

The right thing to do is to allow the people enjoy those they voted for and if they dont like the person, these same people can go to the poll same way and chose someone else. Leaving the choice to the people is the right thing to do in my opinion.

Roland17:
I think you are misunderstanding the role and use of US military bases in Africa. The military bases are essentially for emergent evacuations or rescue operations of US citizens around Africa and not for invasion of a country. Remember the hostage rescue operation in 2020 or there about by US special forces?

The US will support any military action by proxy and support of ammunition and intelligence, not physical presence. The same way Russia will support Wagner.

Boss Ragner will have it hard here in Africa where supplies can't easily get to them. Niger itself is landlocked, if all their neighbors close their land and air border to them as Ecowas is suggesting, how is Russia going to send supplies to Wagner group.

If its France now ehn ehn, but Russia that has little to no influence in Africa? I doubt it.

Unlimited22:
Exactly.

Don't count ECOWAS chickens before they are hatched.


And NOBODY with sense will advocate for ECOWAS to do nothing.

Just not an armed intervention. We no dey try curtail civil war here.

Ecowas actually have history of success in their intervention whether diplomatic or the brute force way.

Only brute force will make the coupist hand over back to the ousted elected President instantly.

Diplomacy will probably give the coupist like 1 - 3 years to transition back to civilian rule.

Unlimited22:
At this moment, as I type this, which of them is still not under military rule?

None.

liveLongNprospa:
So you are saying the same thing we are saying na

I'm only trying to correct the notion that Ecowas was sitting idly and not doing anything to previous coup that has happened in the WA.

Unlimited22:
How many of these are still under military rule?

The 3 of them.

Mali will transition to civilian rule next year

Guinea will transition to civilian rule in 2025

Burkina Faso has been suspended by Ecowas.

monerozi5590:
You mean military intervention against a military government?

Military intervention is always the last resort. Not the first thing.

BlueRayDick:
The bold is what I suggested, but Izzou's position is making it seem like if ECOWAS and Nigeria by extension doesn't go gun blazing and neutralizing the coupists, then no other solution will work.

Ecowas itself is not going gun blazing at the first instance are they?

BlueRayDick:
Is it a must that every country under the sun must practice democracy ? Let's start from there.

If America's democracy permits them to look away when things go wrong under a democratically elected government, why do they suddenly gain interest when the citizens of the country resort to self help ? Is that not hypocrisy?

You are the one that set the tone of the argument sir, I'm only questioning the logic of your argument.

Whether all country of the earth should practice democracy or not is another topic entirely.

What I'm asking you is that why do you think those who call themselves champions of democracy should resort to toppling down the same democracy that they champion? Don't you get it?

If a govt is democratically elected, remove them democratically also.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Nigeria should not do anything abeg.

To all who i have offended by supporting armed intervention, find a space in your heart to forgive me.

ECOWAS is useless, Tinubu is not bright, and God bless Russia.[/color]

Make we cross leg dey observe.

Ecowas has intervened in Mali, Bukina Faso and Guinea but they should allow Niger that we share our longest border with to do whatever they want.

Lol.

Roland17:
It would essentially turn into a US v Russia war. Remember the US through the Secretary of State has made contact with Asiwaju about Niger.

In far away Africa where US has military scattered in most of the country that borders Niger. How many military base does Russia has in Africa not to talk of Africa?

This is not Asia or middle east where Russia can flex military muscles.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Nigerians na very funny people

When this guy starts, and Nigeriens start pouring into our country, also giving birth to different terror groups, the same Nigerians will come back and lament on why Tinubu is not doing anything.

Someone is loved by his people, but he is banning social media, yet we cannot see the clear sign that this guy should not even be the Class captain of an SS3 class.

Make Tinubu comot hand sef. [/color]

I mean they are even making it seems as if Ecowas has always sat down idly whenever coups happens in West Africa without doing anything.

Even Mali sef, Buhari sent Jonathan as envoy to that country on behalf of Ecowas to try and find a diplomatic efforts to end the coup.

Two days after negotiations, the ousted President and prime minister of mali tendered their resignation and the coupist released them from detention. The coupist agreed with Ecowas that they will conduct election and transition to civilian rule in 2022. (Coup happened in 2021) in jan 2022, the coupist wrote to Ecowas that Ecowas should allow them extend the transition by 5yrs, Ecowas responded by closing all borders to Mali and imposing sanctions against them (Same thing Tinubu started with against Niger) and asking them to go ahead with the planned transition or there will be military intervention. Both the coupist and Ecowas later agreed to move the transition period to 2024 in what some describe as Ecowas giving the coupist enough time to save face.

The talk that Ecowas hasn't been doing nothing no hold to the reality on ground.

Unlimited22:
Where was all this furore when it was Chad? Burkina Faso? Guinea?

Mali?


Why is it now? Why would anybody mandate ecowas to do anything?

Chad is not part of Ecowas.

Burkina Faso was suspended from Ecowas after their coup.

There was intervention in Guinea but it was diplomatic and the agreement was that the govt will transition to civilian rule in 2025 with the coupist not being eligible to ever contest future elections.

It's not the first time Ecowas is intervening in coup in West Africa. Buhari and Ecowas sent forces into Gambia when the President that lost election refused to hand over to the winner of the election and force him to handover.

We share the longest border with Niger, whatever is happening there will have ripple effect toward us.

Unlimited22:
Izzou never grasp this thing yet lol

No I'm telling you the "their citizens are backing them line" is bullshit.

Just how many days and the coupist has banned social media which means they dont want the outside world to know whatz going on there.

There has been protest in support of the coup and protest against the coup by equal section of their citizens. Both side will be playing propaganda at a very high level.

Make those in position of privileged information take decisions.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Person never begin rule, e don ban Social Media.

Na this kind person ECOWAS wan dialogue with?

Fundamental human rights no fit dey him dictionary

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Someone that the majority citizens support but his banning social media.

BlueRayDick:
I detest the fact that America will look away when people are groaning under a democratically elected ; then the moment non state actors and coupists listen to the people’s groan; America starts saying “It’s democracy or nothing “

What do you want America to do to a democratically elected government? Is the sane thing not to wait till election time and work behind the scene for another party/individual (which are usually their puppets) to take over?

A democratic elected govt means they were voted in by the majority of the people, I dont know what you want America who are "champions" of democracy to do.

liveLongNprospa:
Hence why I asked.
Coz I know it's all about who is closer to the president as per padi man.

Some people believe Alake is more influential than Femi due to that clodeness🤔

I doubt it. The CoS coordinate all the activities of the President. As far as the presidency is concerned, Femi will be more influential.

nitrogen:
This season has to make sense. We need 1st or 2nd in the league, a very good UCL run and to win the FA cup.

FA cup, it's been a while we won it.

We challenge for the title and a good run in the UCL is what I hope for.

Leyqute:
The lack of direction is why they spend heavily unnecessarily (Lukaku, Antony, etc) AND also penny pinch when they should be investing heavily in the team.

They usually go limp in the TW after we qualify for the UCL. (There’s enough facts to back this up)

I could say this is the first time they’d back a manager in his 2nd or 3rd season in years and I wouldn’t be far from the truth. The last manager that enjoyed this benefit was LvG.

But our board dont just buy players and impose them on the manager.

They buy what the manager request for.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
U go explain tire.. Kano~maradi trail no lack funding... Abuja~Kaduna & Lagos-Ibadan standard gauge all completed. E reach time 2 build d eastern narrow gauge rail corridor u tell me say money don finish..

Sorry I quoted you in the first place. Enjoy.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
If he does, it will be good. Big win 4 APC in SE/SS.

The SE/SS legislators were the main reason why the Lagos - Calabar line hasn't taken off.

Do you remember the "Buhari is selling our sovereignty" fiasco?

liveLongNprospa:
Lmao..
Femi COS.

Some people genuinely believe the gulf in influence in Tinubu’s government between him and Alake isn't much

If you are talking position, CoS has more power but Alake na very close friend of Tinubu. More closer than Femi Gbaja.

NB: This is my own personal opinion and observation.

DontBullshitMe:
I think Gbajamiamila.

CoS is more powerful than a minister.

liveLongNprospa:
Larride.. Dele Alake and Femi.. Critically looking at both who is more powerful right now and what's the gulf in between them?

Who's Femi? Femi Adesina?

iamoyindamola:
Last time I was along that marina side they are still constructing the railway bridge

Oh oh maybe that's what delaying it.

iamoyindamola:
They should start from state level first
The lag own haven’t connect through lagos yet

Yeah. Once the blue and red line start working, they can move to other route.

I don't know why the blue line hasn't started commercial operation yet sef after all the test ride they are doing.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Imagine have a rail from Aba to Lagos

Let every state do their guage rails

Our governorsno dey try at all[/color]

At all. Some can even use some of the rail tracks of the FG in their domain.

The Lagos Blue and Red line will share the track with the Lagos - Ibadan rail in some places.