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BlueRayDick:
But make we talk true cutting cost of governance

The recommendation from this PACAC and the Oronsaye report was to scrap agencies who are duplicating each other services and merge some together.

While we are still on that, the National Assembly are in the process of creating even more new agencies.

Amoto94:
Fani-Kayode on Muslim-Muslim ticket: I’ve prayed about it – Nigeria can’t be Islamised | TheCable

FFK should go and sit down one place.

BlueRayDick:
But what do u think about this UK student visa route of immigration? Do u see Nigerians having to make do with low paying jobs if thy are unfortunate to get good jobs due to lack of sponsors after their studies?

The thing come be like say na una wey move early 2000's, dem Ibime's really move well.

I dont think theres any cause of alarm. Nigerians are just the loudest on SM. The number of those going to school in the UK to japa might not even be up to 20k. I might be wrong though because I dont have any official data to that effect.

Using Canada as an example, last year those that successfully migrated to canada was around 9k+

raumdeuter:
Their reward is in heaven, Heaven will feed their family. Essential workers don't have responsibilities. I prefer all these to be privatized, Pay them more and demand more of them. Anyone who doesn't meet up fire them just like MTN or Zenith Bank will do

Lol. The same way Assu is on strike now majorly because they want to dictate the terms of their engagement to their employees, they want autonomy and still want the FG to fund it. ASSU annual salary is around 246bn and they want the FG to double the salary for them taking their salary to about 490bn annually. That's half a trillion naira every year for ASUU alone. Let's even talk of recurrent expenditure of the Presidency with salaries and others benefits. For last 2021, their personnel cost was 1.7bn while ASUU gulps 249bn. Let's scrap salaries and wages for the Presidency (including aides and all other appointees), what we will save is 1.7bn

The same way NDDC staff are currently protesting because of personnel audit.

The same way NUEE shut down the national grid because they don't want to write promotional exams. They practically plunge the whole nation into darkness because they dont want to write exam before promotion.

In last year budget alone, recurrent expenditure (Salaries, wages, pension and gratuities) to MDAs alone is 3.7 trillion out of a 13 trillion budget.

The Nigeria Army personnel cost alone is over 400bn annually.

raumdeuter:
What happens if essential workers don't get paid for 2yrs

FG rarely owe salaries.

afrodoc2:
1) You said essential workers should not go on strike. The act which you mentioned didn’t say that. It only said they should explore all avenues BEFORE going on strike.
VERY BIG DIFFERENCE.

2) I don’t know and wasn’t addressing the particulars of this current strike action. I was only reacting to your generalisation that essential workers should not go on strike. It should depend on the situation not a blanket ban.

I understand.

Expert17:
Lol, the same ETH used Alvarez and Martinez as DM but guys here are profiling the best CDM.

Make we continue dey use McFred jejely.

Man Utd fans don't know what they want.

We never announce Casmeiro?

afrodoc2:
It depends on the reason for the strike. You can’t make a blanket statement that essential workers should never go on strike when government treats them like trash sometimes.

You can’t deny them that right that other workers have to go on strike and then still maltreat them just because they are essential workers. If they are so essential then treat accordingly. Being an essential worker should not be a punishment.

The trade disputes acts stipulates that essential workers must utilize every resolution mechanisms which includes the National Industrial Court before embarking on any strike.

Oasis has posted their reason for going on strike here, you can easily deduce the reason why they are on strike.

If I was the President, every single one of those guys that shut down the national grid will be cooling off in dss custody right now.

iamoyindamola:
APC led government which you are a member made the country lawless

Come on, you think some bodies will just wake up and decide to shut down electricity without a pending issue, was that how ASUU started or labour etc
If the soldiers decide to stop fighting now you will criticize them but we have been seeing videos of complaints about unpaid salaries and outdated weapons
But the people are to be blamed

Yes. APC made the country lawless.

Have a nice day.

afrodoc2:
From my personal experience government hardly listens to grievances unless workers go on strike.

A lot of postponement of meetings and promises to review grievances. Lots of sending third parties to cajole, threaten or bribe union leaders. Incredibly skilled time wasting techniques. And not just a few minutes like in football both a few months to a few years.

You are right but then essential workers should not be going on strike or even attempt to tamper with critical national assets.

iamoyindamola:
Lawless country who made it lawless
The people or the government
Leemao

When you say government, who do you refer to as government? The politicians or who?

People make up government. In fact the bulk of the government is made up of the civil service. Those who will not go to work and make those who need their service to suffer, those that will sabotage procedures put into place for things to run smoothly so they can make quick bucks, those who will wake up one morning and decide who shut down a critical national assets because they dont want to write promotional exams.

Yes, the country is lawless because we have lawless people from top to bottom.

BlueRayDick:
You may not be far from the truth, but successive governments too have not helped matters. Some reckless and unnecessary government spendings too give these people impetus to make such demands on the government.

Someone was saying a senior lecturer earns ₦220k while Someone like Bashir Ahmed the twitter guy gets paid ₦800k plus. Stuff like this make people agitate and make demands on government even when the goverment says it can't afford to pay higher. I think cost of governance is unnecessarily too high in this part of the world. So these people will just blackmail the government into shifting ground or paint the government bad in the eyes of the people

I agree that our cost of governance is too high because of the kind of representative government we are running.

Salaries and allowance of public servants (elected or appointee) needs to be reduced drastically but if you check our recurrent expenditures, MDA salaries is what make the bulk of those expenditures. Theres no way you are going to reduce cost of governance without merging/dissolving a lot of agencies and we know the cry that will follow from it. The Oronsaye report is there on how we can cut cost of governance but who will retrench workers and the public will go against him/her for being heartless?

While we are talking of cost of governance, the National Assembly are in the process of creating new agencies and departments.

Also political appointee salaries are always tenured and non pensionable.

BlueRayDick:
I know a family friend who exited NITEL due to the advent of GSM as u posited, I don't know how much he got paid but I know his severance package was enough for him to build hospital from the one full plot of land left in his compound. His wife was a chief matron in one of the big general hospitals in Lagos and his first son was almost through with his MBBS that time ; they only employed two doctors who were running shifts pending when his son finished his training as a doctor and took control of the place. Today baba is enjoying his retirement.

My problem is ; is there no other way any union of government employees can get the government's attention apart from strike?

I took a borrowed course in Industrial relations & personnel management in school and u see professors talking about so many ways employees can express their grievances to their employers, why are none of those media yẹ idling results aside from strike in our own society? What is wrong with us?

Most times strike is used as a blackmailing tool to force the hand of govt to their demand because the unions know that govt will automatically take the blame whatever happens.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
True. PDP buried itself by going North. OBJ is in order.

PDP simply went with the person they believe will win them the election.

GloriousGbola:
I do not want to sound overly enthusiastsic,but the power bill has the capacity to turn TCN as irrelevant as nitel. That may also be what this is about,imho.the staff can see the future and want to make sure they are in the best position for a winding down company.

Those guys are crazy mehn. How do you shut down a critical national asset because you are protesting? Is that not a treasonable offense. They fùcking throw the whole country into darkness because they didn't want to write promotional exams.

I heard they have suspended the strike this morning though so we wait and see.

I seriously pray 2/3 of the State Assembly assent to the power bill so it can be sent to the President for assent.

Theres no light because TCN has shut down the national grid over promotional interview.

A lawless country.

Singapore1:
he will obviously win. 100% but his highest vote will come from Lagos and Benin

NDDC staff are protesting against personnel audit.

https://leadership.ng/protesters-block-nddc-headquarters-over-planned-staff-audit/

izzou:
[color=royalblue]This seems to be a week of canceling bets

Larride, can we discuss for a minute, please?

I no dey fear oh. I just tire for the bet[/color]

Izzou my man, if you want to cancel. Let me know.

Segedinho:
abi.

We still never recover from d Trillions wey Termite eat o..

you get point about the completion of the armoury brotherman

I weak for APC n thier supporters o..

You know the bolded happened in 2013 right? And it was 17bn, not trillion.

Roland17:
Make we just agree to disagree.

2024 is approaching, I expect Hope Uzodinma to test his popularity. May God keep all of us alive to witness it.

Definitely though I doubt he will return.

Roland no even pity me at all.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Online is worse.

I don't think you'll capture in the next 5 months if you do that.

But I'm more concerned about the large number that are hoping to leave the country soon. I know not all are getting one to leave, but a large number are.

It was that A001's post that made me say this. My sister was at GTB few days ago, and they were having network issues from 8am that they opened till she left.

May God help us oh.[/color]

NIBSS has been having issues for close to a month now, I think they are just resolving the issue.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I visited immigration office in Festac.

It takes more than 4 weeks for you to get a capturing appointment. The queue is too long

The government needs to look into this. Its disturbing[/color]

Did you try doing it online? Those officials are just trying to make things hard so people will pay extra for accelerated date.

Nigerians hurting Nigerians. Smhs

Segedinho:
meaning u accept d report and rightly criticised d APC flaws in the un-merited salary...

Sege, Bashir and whoever it was that refused to remove his details from the payroll has engaged in payroll fraud.

How every appointees that resigned details were deleted immediately from the payroll except for Bashir means it was intentional.

Segedinho:
fraud as it is a lie

or

fraud as it is just corruption

Ui
it better be a lie ti tarnish APC's image o cos e no just mk sense

Fraud is fraud.

Wolves don almost complete the signing of Nunes while we are still talking with Rabiot going to 9 days now.

This club is cursed.

Oasis007:


PDP Lite Presidential Candidate with PDP senior Caucus.

This Pic was taken yesterday.

Our modern day saint.

We move.

Roland17:
You mean the same results from 388 polling booths that an agent who testified acknowledged to have manipulated to favor Uzodinma considering they were in his strong hold? You do realize Uzodinma did not deny this fact during cross examination?

You mean the same results that did not take into account the votes of the other top contenders before calculating the final numbers? The number of accredited voters in the 388 polling unit was 252,452, guess the number of votes calculated for APC and PDP? 252, 452!!! What does that tell you? Does that mean only 2 parties gathered all 252, 452 votes in the 388 excluded polling units?

Riddle me… After manipulating the numbers, do you know the number of votes PDP was given out of the 252,452 votes from a whopping 388 polling units?

How come the votes excluded in his stronghold because of “violence” affect only his numbers? Why do you think Uzodinma filed an objection against the review of Supreme Court’s judgement after Justice Nweze brought to light some of the discrepancies and haste in the judgement?

Let’s be clear, the Supreme Court said it lacked the jurisdiction to review the case not because the call for a review lacked merit or credibility. Let’s also be clear that the SC did not set aside the ruling of the high court which dismissed Uzodinma’s suit for a lack of merit.

This is politics and politics won, let’s leave it at that because there was no legitimacy and you can’t force legitimacy as evident in Imo state. Finally and more importantly, this is a leadership issue than a party issue for me. I will make the same argument for APC if the case/ situation is reversed.
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This is largely not correct. The Supreme Court do not pander to emotions and only go by facts presented to them.

Hope Uzodinma produced duplicate original of the inec results from those 388 polling units while calling 28 polling unit agents as witnesses and police command attached to those PU.

The PDP on their part called 1 witness and inec did not call any witnesses to lend credence to the fact that made them exclude those results. Inec did not disagree that election held but they were unable to defend their reason for excluding those polling units.

And it's not correct that the Supreme Court didn't set aside the judgement of the high court. They did set aside the judgement and says the appeal has merit.

Also APC didn't get 252,452 out of 252,452, that's another misinformation. APC got 213k votes from the 252k votes.

It's also important to note that it was a unanimous decision by the supreme court.

You can read this report by ICRI https://www.icirnigeria.org/imo-election-noteworthy-points-from-supreme-courts-full-judgment/

Android22:
Very correct. You understand that Hope is suffering for being a member of APC which is Buhari's party.

Yes and Rochas didn't help matters also.

I also believe Hope himself shouldn't have gone after Rochas the way he did after he was sworn in.

All in all, let's hope peace return back to Imo. Owerri used to be a very lively place, let's hope everything returns back to normal.

Wolves about to boy Nunes for 45m from Sporting.