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Kloppo:
I won't be surprised if we are still banned for pitch invasion and violence, Senegalese fans suppose follow us chop too.....despite using laser which of course was started by Egyptian fans in Cairo....they invaded the pitch too,threw stuffs at Egyptian players and staffs while they were close to hurting salah..not sure we did all that to Ghanaians...

We deserve to be banned for pitch invasion and the mayhem that followed after that match. It was senseless.

nihilistjnr:
None of anything you've said here makes sense or matches up to history.

If you listen to the man himself speak, there were only 10 northern civil servants in the North when he joined. With Igbo people taking the other roles on merit. So which retaliatory action was he taking? Amadu Bello himself was so concerned about how poorly qualified his people where that the man was actually campaigning and working against independence at the time

Secondly, The Federal Government predates independence by at least 6 years. Amadu Bello also made sure that federal government jobs in the North only went to Northerners. He's the one that brought Shari'a law to Nigerian constitution. He literally had such little interest in running a federated nation that despite being the head of the NPC in 1960, the biggest party in parliament at the time, he sent his number 2, Tafawa Balewa to be Prime Minister, whilst he remained the Premier of the Northern region.

So please don't tell me other regions were doing the same, when it's clear that Northerners weren't even equipped to compete in their own region.

Sorry to say bro but you are capping heavily. 100%.

Sharia Law was introduced into the country by the Governor of Zamfara state in Oct 27 1999 by Ahmed Sani Yerima and 11 other Muslim populated states followed suit.

Yes, the man said there was 10 Northerners in the “NORTHERN REGION CIVIL SERVICE” when he joined and a promulgated a policy which is “Northern First” in filling of key position in the Northern Civil Service. He clearly said where they can’t get competent northerners to fill any post, they will hire other Nigerians or expatriate on a contract basis. The main goal is the capacity building of his people. It is not tribalism. It is putting your people first.

You see if you read your second paragraph again and part of your third paragraph, you will see you are practically supporting what I’m saying. The country was running a regional system of government and the man was firmly prioritizing his people in his region and you are trying to blame him for it today. Nowhere in his speech did he mention the “Federal Civil Service”. He was clear in that interview that he was talking about the Northern Civil Service.

Unless you can bring evidence that the West and East were bringing people from other position to fill key post in their region, you have no case against of tribalism against Ahmadu Bello. That he even decided to remain the Northern Region Premier instead of being the Prime Minister after independence should tell you everything you need to know about the man.

BlueRayDick:
I think u APC/BMC people have been specially trained to throw a few words here and there, make some submissions that look reasonable on the surface but when examined critically falls on its face.

1. I was asking why Nigeria has a 60,000 capacity stadium and it's not put In good shape which is a legitimate question to ask seeing the state of the pitch is one of the factors the players couldn't be at their best. Ask urself why did the pitch go bad in the first place? Is it not due to lack of proper maintenance?

You are busy telling me super story of how the minister for sports was shamelessly going about begging corporate entities to help put a face lit to government owned sporting facilities.smh

So it's pontification is asking the right question in the face of clear mismanagement?

2. So because FIFA approved a stadium due to the facilities there, our football administrators should not be reasonable enough to enusre the grass are levelled enough to aid the ball moving well on the pitch? Is it FIFA that will help them mow the grass to an equally even level after the grass was laid? Like we didn't watch Senegal vs Egypt and saw how the ball was moving smoothly on the pitch right?

I know u APC supporters would rather die than agree things are not being well managed in this country during this Buhari Era, but some us cannot help ourselves but say things how we see them.

Like I said before, stop pontificating on what you know nothing about. There’s no crime in actually sitting down and learning if you don’t know you are talking about.

You are asking why we have a stadium of 60k capacity and it’s not put to good shape which in itself is a lie because the stadium was renovated way before the World Cup qualifier was announced in January this year. It therefore makes no sense to type that they left it so late to renovate the stadium when information about how the stadium was renovated is in public domain.

This was your post I quoted:

BlueRayDick:
I think Nigeria is cursed ! How do we have a 60,000 capacity stadium and we don’t take care of it ?

This fixture has been announced since God knows when , instead make dem renovate since and put everything in order dem wait till dying minutes. I believe some bureaucratic bottlenecks would’ve led to this fire brigade approach ; now see where it has landed us .

My response to your post was very clear.

Now you can go back to screaming about how the country is cursed.

Good morning

Kloppo:
I tire oooo ...APC as opposition were shouting state policing,dem enter there now,see say e go reduce their federal power,dem fem.....we no hear anything again...

Person go come tell me say our leaders no know wetin dem dey do and na followers fault for electing "wrongly"....Fashola statements about fixing light in 6months,osinbajo sweet talks nko but werey has been reduced to tradermoni sponsorer...abegiii

Till today we are still having debates about State Policing. I am a big advocate for State policing.

I think I had a conversation about this subject matter with ibime during the EndSars protest and he was adamantly against state police.

Every policy will come with its cons and pros and it must be considered very well before implemented.

ibi.me made mention of something then, can you trust these current crop of Governors with the absolute power of police? Knowing that these same Governors are owing salaries of their work force, what do you think will happen when they now added the police to their payroll?

Where will state police funding comes from?

Kloppo:
I want to come direct at you now.....in your church mind,do you think Tinubu is capable of ruling Nigeria health-wise,mental and ability wise with the rot we are in now....Baba,talk true....even that atiku that has been contesting elections since when I was not born sef....

I watched your party convention,na so so consensus and hand-picking candidates from godfathers...Then we vote OLUSOLA DESMOND ELLIOT(ODE) who we think he is one of the "good guys"and he is commissioning toilet and pako bridge,wtf!!!! Do you think I will still be motivated to vote....on a norms,na person like Desmond dey do that kain thing

Just to prove to Tinubu and oshomOLE that Edo no be Lagos,my people came out en-masse,defended their vote for that ugly baffoon called obaseki,the guy has been a failure ever since and not paying back the sacrifice people made....

Pls who are the reasonable people,if not the endless people who have been in power like forever,their aides, consensus candidates and godchildren who are willing to do their bidding...the bad system created by the leaders has swallowed the good guys who have vision for nigeria

1. Do I believe Tinubu will make a good President? Yes

2. Why? Because personally I feel a President needs to surround himself with competent people who can translate his vision into solid framework and implement it for the better for all. This I believe is Tinubu biggest strength, he’s a finder and builder of competent hands to put in position of authority. One of the major issue I have with Buhari is his lackadaisical attitude towards his appointees (Ministers and the likes).

3. Consensus is a valid means of electing leaders in internal party politics, even the electoral act make this very clear. But me personally I am against Consensus because I believe everyone should be allowed to test their popularity and canvass for the vote of fellow party members but the Governors in their usual ways hijacked everything to themselves. I know how much I stayed it during ward meetings that consensus will never bring the best among us to stand for election but those favored by the Governors/Elders of the parties who hold the structure.

4. I always believe everyone should be able to make their political choice and live with it. It makes no sense to spite your nose because of your mouth. Will Ize-iyamu be a better Governor than Obaseki? No one knows, most times we only use power of hindsight to judge which no one has when they are making these decisions.

5. If you want to change the system, you have to get into it and change it from within. You cannot change the system from outside. If you join a political party today, you will find that there are a lot of people who share your vision for a better country who just haven’t been able to get into leadership position, that’s why we must leverage our youth population to push the best of us into these positions and see if things will change.

I am a firm believer that Nigeria is still salvageable, it’s just going to require so much work with everyone putting their hands on deck to do.

Is it possible? Yes.

Will it happen? No one knows.

PDPGuy:
You see, the whole “Ironsi abolished regionalism, which led to the collapse of Nigeria” is nothing but hypocrisy and a ruse to hide the general incompetence of Nigeria’s politicians since the 70s

Nowhere in my post did I say Ironsi abolishing regionalism was what led to the collapse of Nigeria. You do not need to infer what is not there.

The context of that discussion was about how Ahmadu Bello was the one practicing tribalism and I pointed out that we were running a regional government then with which premier or leader of the region running a policy of “Our region” first.

Whether we will have progressed more than this if we are still running a regional system of government can only be based on assumptions and we will never know because Aguiyi Ironsi abolished the region and instituted a Unitary system of government.

PDPGuy:
So, why didn’t a succession of northern military dictators revert to regionalism?

Why should they when they can just control the whole country?

Roland17:
Oga, there are too many contradictions in this post! The foreign countries you are speaking of made conscious efforts in ensuring their system/ institutions are functional and give people a fair shot. We must stop making these excuses and comparisons like Nigeria has made the same level of effort in truth to secure their nation.

Mostly out of frustration, poverty and evil caused by who? Nigeria is not worse than Britain and US but there is a stark difference in our realities. Do you think Nigerians who immigrate to Britain/ US maintain the same mentality they have in Nigeria? Absolutely not! You can’t bring those predatory behaviors because everyone has to play by the rules unlike naija where there is always a way.. This is immigrants progress. Of the system/ institutions were porous and as vulnerable, Nigerians will manipulate the system.

We like to deceive ourselves a lot.

Those that will refuse to queue properly when in Nigeria and want to do shortcut will go out of the country and behave themselves.

While I do agree that the government needs to make examples of a lot of people to serve as deterrence but why must the government always have tell us to behave like normal people before we do?

I have come to a conclusion that the mentality now is “This country is useless, I can do whatever I want and get away with it” not knowing that we just keep making the rot go deeper.

Odunharry:
Alot of people have given up in this country. Telling them to be involve in politics is a waste of time.
Come 2023, I bet you alot of us especially from the South will either be playing football or indoors doing nothing when it's election time..

Maybe we need to tell people elections are not won online.

Maybe we need to tell people to still come out and vote even though alot of us believe our vote doesn't count..

I don't know, but I think something is wrong with this country.

Well if people don’t come out and vote, then they have given their power to chose their leader into the hand of someone else who might not vote for who they want to.

Voters education is important. If vote doesn’t count, politicians won’t be trying to buy votes during election.

The truth is that no one person will wave a magic wand and everything will fall into place immediately but things can change if we elect reasonable people across board continuously. We can begin to see changes. Government is continuum, we must have a plan on the kind of leaders we want, what we expect from them and hold them accountable.

Votes do count and in 2023, we will have chance to elect those that will pilot the affairs of the country for another 4 years. Both for states and FG.

Starting from House of assembly members, house of reps, senators, governors and President, we must be intentional about who we vote for.

Kloppo:
We Nigerians get our own for body but we are not worse than Americans and British people,walahii.....most atrocities we commit, it is mostly out of frustration,poverty and evil things our leaders do unto us.....

Why is than given Equal playing field with the whites after we JAPA and we dey dust them and perform better than them in all fields....

I think you are conflating two issues together.

That we excel in our chosen fields outside the country doesn’t equate to doing evil.

Have you tried to go collect transcript in a State/FG university and see the stress and trouble those secretary will give you? Are they also our leaders? Are they not some people mothers, aunt, uncles, fathers and the likes?

We are just inherently wicked irrespective of the fact whether we are brilliant in our chosen career or not.

Abba Kyari was celebrated as a super cop (brilliant in his career chosen) until his atrocities was revealed to the whole world.

While I do agree that sometimes the system does affect the way we turn out but I feel it’s a lazy excuse to use. Even with the current situation in the country, there are still people that do the right thing at the right time.

Odunharry:
Same set of leaders since independence. We are still complaining about the same problem of light and infrastures since God knows when.

Nigerians will still elect same leaders and still cry of wrong leadership..

It's just so sad.

This is why people must join fully and participate in politics. If these old guards retire, some will take over from them, well meaning Nigerians must position themselves to take power from them.

But then when I look at the kind of politics some of our youths are playing, I only shake my head. Even among APC that I belong to, it always seems like a drowning voice in a thick wilderness.

We cannot claim to want change and still want to do things the old way except maybe we are deceiving ourselves.

Odunharry:
Yes alot of us are doing very very well in tech. The politicians are not making the average Nigerian to be bloodsuckers cos I am sure there are alot of good people who mean well for the country.

You didn't talk abt the ones who go abroad and commit all sort of crime.

I don't think the leaders are to be blamed entirely, instead alot of us need to change our mentality.

The blame goes both way. Leaders and the followers even though the leaders share the highest part of the blame.

They are the one that’s meant to wipe everyone into line, build strong institutions to ensure that people do the right things and a deterrence put in place to punish offenders.

The problem now is that the rot is so deep that even those that will run the “strong institutions” have been corrupted badly.

Kloppo:
Guy,why you dey lie? Why you no use iwobi?ohhh,it does suit your narrative or awoniyi and the goalkeeper who were trolled more because they all played badly in Afcon,guess it doesn't suit your narrative and agenda....

BMC method and tactics of gaslighting on social media na him you dey try use so,lmao

Umar Sadiq was trolled on the basis on his tribe. Sadiq was called a product of quota system by a lot of people on Twitter during that period.

Both Awoniyi and Iwobi were not trolled because of their tribe. They were rightly trolled for playing absolute rubbish but no one was calling their tribe into it. It was only Umar Sadiq that they brought tribe into it.

Ibime:
Apparently Tinubu was said to be hosting a gathering yesterday and cancelled it saying that it's not a time to celebrate, that 60 people were lost in the Kaduna train

Yeah. Cancelled his annual colloquium to celebrate his birthday.

A government that cannot protect the lives and properties of its citizens has failed.

No excuses whatsoever for these constant attacks. I’m not even expecting anything from Buhari again. I’m tired.

Kloppo:
You are caping bro....you lots use Tribal abuse loosely here mehn,everything said against any Nigerian is tribal

Was yakubu aiyegbeni miss that Nigeria has never forgiven and forgotten TRIBAL too

You remember Umar Sadiq just this January during Afcon? You know how badly that guy was trolled because of his tribe?

Odunharry:
Lol. The mentality of the average Nigeria needs to change. Even if you pick a random Nigeria and put that person in power, the first thing in his mind will be to steal. Alot of us are replica of our leaders.

After all our leaders didn’t fall from heaven.

Ibime:
If it wasn't Aguiyi Ironsi, it would be someone else. The tribe is not important. Which African country didn't fall to military coup after independence, and which military leader will choose to rule a loose federation rather than a unitary Government? Military by nature is a Unitary structure.

Yes, it it wasn’t Aguiyi Ironsi, it could’ve been someone else I agreed but the fact of the matter is that it was Aguiyi Ironsi that gave us the unitary system of government we currently run and he get the blame 100%. If it was someone else that did it, the person will also get the blame.

My point for that post was to point out to those blaming Ahmadu Bello for instituting a Northernisation policy in the Northern region to show he was a tribalist. If we use that logic, all of them during that period are tribalist.

nihilistjnr:
Which region were white people that Amadu Bello hired from?

Whose people were they?

The point is that it’s their region, he has the right to hire anyone they want just the same way the West and East has the right to hire anyone they like.

The interview was very clear. He was pursuing a Northernization policy for the Northern Region where all key post in the region are held by Northerners. He says if they can’t find a northerner to fill the post, they will hire white expatriate or other Nigerians on contract basis. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that policy since the remaining regions were also running a “Our region” policy.

Ibime:
Bros today wey boys blood dey hot, you want defend APC for football matters? Good luck bro

It is not defense, it is settling the record straight.

Dangote was the one that renovated the stadium, it is public knowledge. Blaming the people in the civil service makes no sense.

Kloppo:
Southwest BMC blaming an Igbo/ "Biafran".....WATER IS WET!!!

So you don’t want us to talk about the person that cancelled out the regional government and introduced the unitary system of government that we have been battling since then?

nihilistjnr:
Yes ZIK was a bastard actually, but the Brits were the ones that actually refused to entertain any idea of splitting the north from the south at independence, despite knowing fully well how far behind they were.

Federal Government started in 1954, 6 years before independence, and Amadu Bello knowing his constituents couldn't compete on merit for Federal jobs with Southerners instituted 'North First' policy for any federal roles based in the north, where if they don't find any educated northerner for the role, they would hire a white person, before they consider giving the job to a southerner.

The man even gave an interview to an incredulous BBC reporter detailing his policy with pride

That's who the British lumbered us with.

I will look on youtube and see if I can find it.

During that period we were running a REGIONAL government.

West - North - East before the Middle Belt was created in 1963.

Everyone region during that period was running a “My People” policy.

Awolowo/Akintola policy was a Western policy that favor the west, same with the Eastern and Northern bloc. It makes no sense to be blaming Ahmadu Bello for prioritizing the people of his region like the way the others were doing.

Let’s talk about Gen Ironsi who destroyed the regions and declared a unitary government.

BlueRayDick:
I think Nigeria is cursed ! How do we have a 60,000 capacity stadium and we don’t take care of it ?

This fixture has been announced since God knows when , instead make dem renovate since and put everything in order dem wait till dying minutes. I believe some bureaucratic bottlenecks would’ve led to this fire brigade approach ; now see where it has landed us .

Stop pontificating on what you don’t know about. The least you can do is to do small research before typing.

1. The stadium was renovated by DANGOTE. Sunday Dare the minister for sport was going around talking to corporate bodies to come renovate our sporting facilities. Dangote chose to renovate the MKO Abuja Stadium.

2. The match was supposed to hold in Lagos before CAF/FIFA refused saying that they can’t use VAR in Lagos stadium before the match was moved to the recently renovated stadium in Abuja and it was certified by both CAF/FIFA for the match to hold there.

patrickmuf:
Calm down guy...

Which kind rant be this? Baba free Larride to support who he chooses to support just like anyone else...

Go, read and digest the Desiderata by Max Ehrmann...

Don’t tell him to relax please. He will tell me where I stole his money for him to be calling me thief repeatedly.

donjazet:
[s]Larride, may the death of Dr chinelo hunt you and your fellow thief supporters.
Those of you who continue to support this wicked government and hope to install another continuation of this elite contraption.
Larride, you people will never know peace until you change course. Soooo many lives lost, so many futures stolen, soo many hopes drained.

Very foolish and stupid Human being that wishes Nigeria to continue on its path of decay. TUFIA!! [/s]

This is going to be my last warning to you donjazet. Do not use your hand to put yourself in trouble that you will regret for the rest of your life.

That’s all I will say.

Jodera:
Lol...
2018/2019 Serie A also introduced best players award only to give it to Ronaldo and have been giving it to Ronaldo since till he left.


PR Merchant!!

You wan compare Best Player in the league award to “Best Assist”?

Jodera:
You're saying another thing entirely na .
We no dey argue who's better, Lar.ride brought a post about how Ligue 1 introduced best playmaker award just because of Messi.

I'm just telling him no be new thing, after all Serie A did exact same thing too

Not best playmaker award sir.

It’s clearly written as “BEST ASSIST” award. Funny how Messi assist that won is the easiest out of all the assist that was nominated.

PR Merchant.

Best assist.

It’s 2022 and Ligue 1 introduced best assist award only to give him to Messi for a simple pass.

PR Merchant.

DieRich5:
the only thing I nor like in NWH, spider Man see Dr strange finished........I can't ND never believe spiderman won dat fight

They just had to find a way to keep Dr Strange away till the end of the movie else the movie will end in 30mins.

Leyqute:
Okay. Here are the words of a Ronaldo ‘fanboy’:







I said you’ll never understand my position on this issue because you think in black and white. But you dey yarn like Messianic cultist.

Go and sit down somewhere.

Even me surprise that Patrick is calling you a Ronaldo stan. I remember the back and forth we had about this Ronaldo sef.

Lana1:
That night Bayern flogged Barca 8-2, me and you argued and I asked if Flick could get our players to press like other top teams. You said it was a coaching problem. I said it is because the players are rubbish.

I'm happy you and many others can now see the light with these useless players we are parading.

A couple of them have been here since the days of LVG and they are still playing rubbish.

I just hope the next manager wont come in and be forced to use these guys. He should be given full authority to bin whoever thinks they are too big to play for the badge

This is one reason I want Raff advisory board to be true so bad. That man has a “Get the fûck outta here” attitude that most of our players need.

See the way the New Barca President told Dembele to go find a new club and all before January transfer window. See the way Dembele is playing now.

We need to be ruthless.

See these shameless Eibarman stan

nitrogen:
Sancho no go die well with that lacklustre performance. Omo ale!

Everyone one of them dey craze. Every one.

They better get rid of all these average cûnt and get in better players.