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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 11:57pm On Jan 28, 2020
spillo1:
LMFAO.....Some of you have pH.d in spreading negativity upon negativity and knee jerk reaction with no substance to others. Nothing you won't whine about like bitches. If you asked to pin point some faults about the glazers/Ed you won't come up with anything tangible.
You really think people are being negative? With all the stunt ED and his PR team has been doing since summer, don’t blame anyone for being pessimistic.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 11:56pm On Jan 28, 2020
footiemaniac:
Bruno Fernandes deal is done and dusted, he will be a Manchester player tomorrow or next. We should try and sign a proper #9(striker) before deadline day if we are to compete for top 4 or win Europa.
LOL
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 8:45pm On Jan 28, 2020
Ed is the perfect man for this our fanbase.


LMAO
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 7:02pm On Jan 28, 2020
Ibime:
Good analysis Prof.

We will now highlight the key tenets that underpin both groups.

For example, if you score 70% and above in the following test, you qualify for membership of ApariSports. Readers should feel free to mark themselves.

If you agree that:

Pep is a God -20%
VVD is a fraud - 20%
Hazard is a shakushaku master - 20%
EPL is a weak league - 10%
Cuntay is a local fraud - 5%
Beasting finals is the criteria to differentiate players - 5%
Anything Airmark says is wrong - 5%
Net-spend is irrelevant, only total spend counts - 5%
Other interchangeabe criteria as Raumdeuter deems fit eg Belotti, Kychokewack, Boateng, KDB, David Luiz etc - 10%


Alternatively you can score yourself for membership of Citadel here. Anything above 70% qualifies you for membership:

Pep is a fraud - 20%
Hazard is a God - 20%
EPL is the best league - 10%
VVD is a God - 10%
Boateng is a calamity - 10%
Iniestas is a eunuch - 10%
KDB should not be mentioned with Hazard - 10%
Anything Raumdeuter says in wrong - 5%
Other interchangeabe criteria as Airmark deems fit - 5%

I score myself 20% on ApariSports criteria and 60% on Citadel. Which means that though I do not qualify for membership of Citadel, I lean more toward their views. How about you Prof?
10 for Apari sports
25 for Citadel.

We need that third force ASAP.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 5:41pm On Jan 28, 2020
Chrisus:
So, Barca are in talks for Bruno cry
Just what I wanted to ask.

We are a joke to Ole, Ed and the Glazers.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 5:09pm On Jan 28, 2020
Ravioli:
I am so paying attention. They're far from broke. They're just disorganized
OK
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 4:41pm On Jan 28, 2020
raumdeuter:
Na to enter gofundme and raise money for transfers

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 4:40pm On Jan 28, 2020
Ravioli:
Broke ke??

Iffa hear
You not paying attention to how the club is been run?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 3:41pm On Jan 28, 2020
What’s the possibility that Man Utd is broke??
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 12:17pm On Jan 28, 2020
Oasis007:
grin



Solskjær: "Alexis [Sánchez] will come back in the summer and will prove you all wrong."
grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 4:21pm On Jan 26, 2020
Lingard omo olope
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 3:38pm On Jan 26, 2020
Oasis007:
grin


..... Even against Oluyole FC, OGS still starts his first XI. What happens to Gomez and Chong?! Well the latter makes the Bench.
Like you didn’t hear his presser when he said this is a big game? Moreover he wants to win the FA cup, nothing bad in it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 11:10am On Jan 26, 2020
Oasis007:
Solskjær: "In the time I have been here, we have spent a lot of resources on scouting, ­recruiting and researching players to make sure we are comfortable when we sign them."
cc footiemaniac

Research FC
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 11:08am On Jan 26, 2020
Oasis007:
Solskjær: "The club won’t sign a player without me accepting it. It’s down to me to say yes or no when the club finds a target."
cc footiemaniac
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 11:08am On Jan 26, 2020
Oasis007:
Solskjær: "Some people do blame others. Some of us think we are better than others. For me it’s all about ­understanding the club — and I believe in the structure that’s been put in place here."
cc footiemaniac
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 3:31pm On Jan 25, 2020
Jodera:
Can I ask you a question.
On paper, the team of Man u 2008/2009 vs the team of barca 2008/2009, at the start of the season, who would you have put your money on over and over again if they were to play that final 3 times?
Your sincere answer please
It’s like you are forgetting that Man Utd play Barca in 2007/08 UCL semi final match that we won 1 - 0 on aggregate.

At the start of that 08/09 season no one could have predicted a Man Utd vs Barca final. A lot of things do happen in the course of the season.

If I’m to put my money on the match, it will prolly be a draw.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 2:17pm On Jan 25, 2020
elampiro:
What about when a player disposed an opponent to score a goal? Or when a player recovers a ball to score a goal? Or when a player capitalized on deflection (off its initial target)to score a goal? Or when a player reads a poor back pass from a defender to the goalkeeper to score a goal?

Any in case, what I meant is that there chances created for tap in, there are chances created for a striker to do an extra labour before he can score. Mane and Salah will more liekly score from a chance that required an extra labour like beating a last man, running half of the field when through, shaking defence, etc
Your first paragraph, in those situation it will be recorded as error leading to goal NOT chance created. In those situation, no one get assist for the goal.

There’s a reason why there’s chances created and “BIG” chances created.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 1:25pm On Jan 25, 2020
elampiro:
Salah and Mane have been closed to winning the Ballon D'or but where is any of our attackers?

Salah and Mane >>>> Rasfford and Martial. What I see these guys do, Mane, Salah, Sterling, is their ability to make the opposition defence get confused when they approach them zigzagly on the run. They know what to do where it matters most. Rashford is a very good dribbler on the run, but once in the tight box area he gets confused. Martial is weak far from the goal but a better dribbler near the opposition box with his close control. But none has what it takes to cause the big confusion with swift movement and close control in opposition box area

Missing big chances is not such an important stats compared to creating big chance. A player can miss a big chance he created for himself.
Trash as usual.

For a chance to be recorded as chances created, you have to create that chance for someone else. Nowhere in the history of footballing stats do you classify big chances created and big chances missed together.

If Mané dribbled 2 players to create a chance for himself to score, will they give him goal and assist? Your thinking nowadays is somehow Mr Elampiro..

Chances created in stats means the chances created for someone else to score.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 10:22am On Jan 25, 2020
Elampiro is just busy yarning dust.

It’s easy to see that he doesn’t watch Liverpool games. Imagine talking about Salah dribbling to create his chances or even Mané that has missed 15 big chances was dribbling to create chances.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 12:39am On Jan 25, 2020
Jodera:
lol... Hope say I no blaspheme?
The fact that you keep saying Klopp will give Liverpool advantage as if the Man Utd team will be coached by Ole.

A front three of Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez vs a defense of Robertson, VVD, Gomez and Arnold

Midfield of Owen Hargreaves, Carrick and Scholes vs a midfield of Gini, Henderson and Fabinho

A front three of Salah, Mane n Firmino vs a defense of Evra, Vidic, Ferdinand and Neville.

VDS v Allison.


I know which team I will put my money on.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 12:33am On Jan 25, 2020
elampiro:
Look at when Messi, Neymar and Surez topping their chances created while together at Barca.

The three of them still came 1st, 2nd and 3rd in Assist that season.

Did they relax and waited for fullbacks and midfielders? Which one is attackers cannot be held liable for failure of fullbacks to create. Where did you learn your football?
I should be asking you where you learn your football.

All team midfielders and full back play a role in the attacking set up on a team. The full back creativity does not depend on the attackers ability to finish it off. They can be creating the chances and the attackers keep fluffing their lines. It doesn’t change the fact that those full backs are creative.

Maybe you need to sit down and watch Liverpool again and see how influential their full backs are in their attacking set up.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 12:29am On Jan 25, 2020
elampiro:
I think you are confused. You believe more in your self judgement than what scientific proof shows you. Tell me which of our fullbacks take set piece?

First, in football full backs do not have a primary duty to create. In some teams, yes it works but some they are just full backs. Generally, the forward players are meant to be the primary creators. This was evident in the comprehensive list of top creators I posted here few days back which someone else analysed and it showed that a forward player is the top creator this season and far more forward players were in the list. The full back don not owe the forwards creativity. If they create, it is a bonus.Martial and Mata even lost Bissaka two chances the last match and Martial still lost golden chance created by Matic.
Read the last line of my last post again. Liverpool full back and midfield contribute a great deal to their attacking style. The burden of creating chances or creativity does not rest solely on the attackers.

Go n watch Liverpool or City matches and see how much their attackers misses chances. The difference them and us is that they keep creating those chances.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 10:20pm On Jan 24, 2020
Haaland from the bench to score a brace again.


This L is for Ed and all those incompetent fools.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 9:45pm On Jan 24, 2020
Jodera:
well, I won't say they are greater than united or Chelsea team I quoted. I said in terms of play, they might beat them, not because individually they're better than the squad of united or Chelsea, but because of the klopp factor.
Klopp have shown time and again that he's really a great coach. Even tho you'll say they've not won any domestic league, we all know this season is wrapped up already. Its just a matter of when not if.

Also like I said, I believe(my opinion tho) because of klopp and the style of play he employs, they'll marginally beat man u of 2007/2008. But you see those 2004/2005 of Chelsea, they'll drag it.
LOL
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 9:36pm On Jan 24, 2020
elampiro:
You might be right here. Our set pieces are weak. But last season we scored 12 from set pieces as against 4 so far this season. Our set piece takers-Mata and Young have all been around, but what has changed is the people attacking the set pieces.


But he has 3 goals



Dijk is the second highest EPL player with goals from heading -4

Again, we are talking about goals from set piece first where Arnold has created bulk of his Assists.



Liverpool has 12 goals from set pieces while we have 4. All these theory you are writing don't hold ground when it is already established that most of Arnold's creativity is from set piece.



Dilk has scored 4 headers
Mane has scored 2 headers
Ferminho has scored 2 headers
Salah has scored 1 header
Origi has scored 1 header

This is not to talk of some other converted with leg.
We are talking about the creativity of Liverpool full backs. The quality of their crosses whether set pieces or not cannot be compared to us.

Our attack cannot be held responsible for the limited creativity of our full backs. If you watch our matches the way you claim you do, you will know the quality of the crosses we put into the box is nothing to write home about. There are some good crosses here n there but that’s that.

I have already talked about our poor we are at set piece both when attacking set piece and when defending it.

The crux of the matter is that Liverpool defense and midfield contribute greatly to Liverpool attacking style. Our attackers need such supporting cast.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 10:52am On Jan 24, 2020
elampiro:
Anold has 6 Assists from set plays and 2 from crossing. If he played in United, who would head in those balls where there is no Smalling, Lukaku or Fellaini?

If he were in United he would not be said to be creative because no Firminho, Origi, Dijk and co to nod into the net
LOL do you even see the way our set pieces are been taken? They are horrible to watch.

Origin doesn’t start much for Liverpool, he’s a proper sub.

Liverpool full back don’t cross for Dijk when they are attacking except during set piece.

Liverpool front three is Mané, Firmino and Salah, compared to our own front three, Martial and Rashford are both taller than Mane and Salah and the same height with Firmino.

Maybe you need to sit down well and watch our many crosses Liverpool out into the box per game before you start talking. Mane, Salah or Firmino are not the one responsible for Arnold n Robertson creativity. Put any front three ahead of them and they will still put in those beautiful crosses, whatever those attackers does with the crosses is another discussion entirely.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 10:56pm On Jan 23, 2020
Elampiro

Today’s Liverpool game.

First goal - Arnold assisted Henderson

Second goal - Henderson assisted Firmino

How is it that our own “attacker” alone should bear the burden of creating chances. Discuss.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 10:55pm On Jan 23, 2020
nitrogen:
Of course Wolves and Bunley have better players.
I don’t know about you but I like that Raul Jimenez. Since it seems we want to be going for EPL players alone, we should kuku test Wolves resolve.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 6:15pm On Jan 23, 2020
CAPdan21:
I'm not comparing ferguson and pep even if both are a tad overrated..I'm questioning the suggestion that klopp who has a better head to head against pep will need 100tries to beat ferguson who got out coached by pep twice
10/10 times my money is on that Barca team to beat this Klopp team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 4:39pm On Jan 23, 2020
popizaino:
Klopp will need 100tries to beat Ferguson once.They will so beat this Liverpool squad like craze.
Exaggeration.

However, I will put my money on that united team to win anytime any day.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 4:35pm On Jan 23, 2020
Inter just signed Victor Moses.


Conte is not serious.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 4:35pm On Jan 23, 2020
Leyqute:
It’s only a matter of time before the money stops flowing if things don’t change.
True.

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