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glambo:
You missed why he wanted to buy the company.
It is simply because it's an European Company,that will make it easy for him go get contract in African oil&gas industry and exploit the greed of african politician to make money.

At the end the company might be more of a portfolio company that is struggling to survive in the home state but raking in millions of dollars in Africa.

"Exploit the greed of the African politician?" In what way, please? And you said "the company might be more of a portfolio company that is struggling to survive in the home state but raking in millions of dollars in Africa..." How? Are you on the board of the company, or you just jumped to an ill-founded conclusion?

xtremely9ja:
This is simply classic. The most inspiring read ever for me on Nairaland. Try your best, make mistakes, keep going, never stop whether in success or defeat you still remains a victor, because when the story is told the one that never tried will never get a mention.
Thank Paddy for tell your story.

Jethrolite:
I was reading comments and almost felt like crying. I find solace in the fact that crass people are the ones who comment most here, the real quality members are mostly visitors and usually only observe when they create an account.

olatunji71:
That was a nice piece. Considering your age, you dared the most unbelievable feat . By also racking up your brain, you got a well organised, well thought out team of excellent brains put up to make sure the deal sail through. Well, don't be down trodden by not succeeding in your bid. There's always a second shot at things in life so take heart and look forward to the next big thing .

thiscounts:
This could still be adapted into a movie...it will make an interesting watch as it does reading.What a giant stride of an attempt,and motivational

Honestly, this story is the best thing I have read on NL, in the past one month. I have read it over and over again. Each time, I read through it, a new angle pops up. There are too many rich kids from a similar background, who would not have dared to do half of what he did.

Paddy is such a gifted writer. He shared his story in such an articulate, touching way. If he ever gets bored of the business world, he should venture into the literary circle. He'd make not just lots of money, but also get a large cult following, who would hang on his every word!

AdolfHitlerxXx:
This story is over-hyped... really don't get all the hullabaloo

Some folks are just jumping on the bandwagon and pretending it's Nobel or Pullitzer worthy .

1. There was no guarantee he would have won the bid if he had paid the facilitator that huge amount

2. It's not 100% sure he could have competed with the company from Oman - we don't know the size of their pockets

Paddy is MEGA rich and handsome...i don't just get the hype of this "Chronicles of Catalan"

If you go around bribing conmen to "facilitate" deals and keep telling all family friends your business plans, ur bank account would speak up

For those who "get" it and are inspired by what i consider a puff piece, wish them good luck!

You did not read the article from start to finish. The company from Oman bidded the exact same amount that Paddy had offered (i.e. 50 million USD). The only reason they won the deal, was because they offered to buy out the abandex portion of the whole deal, which was something Paddy declined to do.

just2endowed:
I admire his passion and ambition but the thing there is that, he comes from a rich home and he has so many option of raising capital to the least. Bank are even ready to lend him that amount knowing fully well that his name is Adenuga.

No bank will simply lend you money in Nigeria, if your name is simply Adenuga. You will still do the rounds, fill the forms and provide adequate collateral. So do not exaggerate, sir!

majekdom2:
you should understand what I mean by selling. Yes, every business sells to make money but what are they selling and what value. Is the company building a new product or buying a business that's been building a product before now. Will catalan discover more efficient ways to drill for oil and start exploration. Will catalan be exploring oil. I mean taking risk to go drill for oil in an unconfirmed location.. No! Catalan will only be selling oil being produced from the asset they want to buy from chevron. In oil and gas, these type of companies are called operating/ trading companies. They are different from exploration companies that invest millions in drilling in a location and then not finding oil. Now, there is nothing wrong in being a trader. My point I don't see any motivation in this as he did not loose millions of dollars. Did he go to drill in an unconfirmed location. The hype is too much abeg. It's what every business man does everyday!

You are talking about Innovation. Yes, innovation has its' place. But so do the mundane, daily routine transactions that merchants all over the world, undertake on a daily basis. Whether you understand it or not, a large portion of international transactions in today's world, are driven by pure commerce. We can't all be innovators. Some would have to be merchants, others the supply chain experts, while others would offer the capital or financial services needed to take routine businesses and innovative products, to the next level.

Catalan was meant to use the Chevron Netherlands acquisition as a vehicle to invest in oil & gas exploration projects in Africa, starting with Angola, Nigeria etc. God knows that African oil projects need more investors of this sort. For those in sales, there is a lot of motivation in setting up a deal and closing it, in order to achieve a target. It appears that was the motivation that drove Paddy Adenuga to bid for the Dutch exploration firm.

ochejoseph:
Chronicles of Catalan : Five Lessons I learnt From Paddy Adenuga's Memoir

4. The Edgar and Remi component of the memoir showed that experience and relationships still matters a lot in business, and that although he has managed companies at the highest levels, he was not immune to making bid wrecking and business crumbling mistakes.

Lesson: You may never get help if you refuse to ask.

5. The Catalan Management advice against his guts is a reminder to business tycoons and entrepreneurs that sometimes its pays to trust your instincts.

Lesson: It takes more than best brains to succeed in business.

As an avid reader and author, I have chosen to share this few but powerful lessons I have learnt from Paddy's chronicles praying that perhaps , Nigerians who hate long reads like me sometime ago will somehow learn from a Nigerian who has chosen to share his memoir with us with the hope that we will learn from the mistakes of his near acquisition of Chevron Netherlands and just like his father we will one day share in his joy and accomplishments.



Oche Joseph Otorkpa
31. 01. 2018
Abuja, Nigeria.

http://www.publichealth.com.ng/catalan-chronicles-5-lesson-i-learnt-from-paddy-adenuga-memoir/

The 4th and 5th lessons are so instructive. Lesson 4 - "You may never get help if you refuse to ask." But it is critical to ensure that you are asking the right people for help, and not the wrong ones who could wreck your dreams.

As for Lesson 5, truer words have never been spoken. It takes more than brains to succeed in business. It also takes guts, skill, talent, expertise, experience, the right team, the right info, enough funds and a huge dose of divine intervention to make things happen for you.

Thank you so much for sharing!!

karniff:
Remi is very influential just as some intricacy was left out in the lines; Edgar would have run with the bid if he had got on the project earlier kknowing he had such bid in mind to close th deal. At the end he regretted this two actions on his part- the leson. Perhps u should read again plus I said said u haven't been in that instance u wouldn't get the greed lol

You still have not pointed out the greed. Do you actually know the meaning of the word "greed?" Where on earth did greed come into the whole equation? Remi's influence in the whole thing was only known at the end of the deal, because he had some valuable information which could have tipped the scales in Paddy's favour, had Paddy chosen to open up to him. As for Edgar, it was ego and inexperience that made Paddy decline Edgar's first offer, but he ended up paying for it later.

einsteine:
You say it has the elements of a best seller.

Yes, it would make for a good start to a Stephen Frey financial thriller. I understand the entertainment value of a write-up like this. A lot of the people claiming they learnt from this are simply talking from an aspirational point of view. They wish to do multi-million dollar deals, bla bla bla but in point of fact, the whole story does not offer any ACTIONABLE insight or advice to the average reader as not only do they lack the resources to engage in such, they are also more likely to be involved in more mundane businesses.

All in all, good on him but I don't give kudos to people who, if they were on the Forbes list, would have a self made score of less than 4.

Even after all the points made by various people on this thread? Read it again, and pray for divine insight to comprehend the actionable lessons, in it.

karniff:
If you haven't taken such ride in life u wouldn't understand a lot of intricacy left out of the good piece... Against his class or affluence he made a good move but his greed cost him from Edgar to Remi. And that's what you don't need in making a big one on massive deal.

Which greed? Didn't see any. With Edgar, he felt that Edgar's initial quoted fee was too high for his input (as he perceived it then), so he declined and walked away . But at the end of the day, when he went back to Edgar, he still paid the man's fees which had now doubled. It was his lack of experience in realising Edgar's value, that made him walk away initially. But I like Edgar. The man knew his own worth, and didn't sell himself short.

With Remi, he was trying to take precautions against being jinxed, by people from back home in Naija. He had nothing against Remi personally. And Remi never asked for a cut of his deal, did he? So where does greed come into it?

Donald7610:
Its PMB
Since it's the work of HERDSMEN too

AdolfHitlerxXx:
May God give them the fortitude to bear the loss

Always support local, honest businessmen

No...it is the work of those Yoruba people. Isn't that the normal blame game that your people, like to play?

Other lessons;

8. Give it all you have got: Paddy didn't approach the deal in a half-hearted manner. He went in with a lot of passion, energy and enthusiasm to make it work. He negotiated with a few influential folks to get the right kind of deals that would help his project. With others, he paid for their time & skill in order to get their support, for his dreams. He was pro-active and even reached out to the management of the largest state-owned oil & gas firm in the Netherlands. There were no short-cuts or half measures. That was why his failure to clinch the deal, hit him hard!

9). Always find out why you failed: In the business world, it is called asking for feedback. Paddy kept reaching out to the Chevron subsidiary to find out the outcome of his bid. The first feedback he received, led him to readjust his strategy and form a joint venture with his competitors. The second feedback he received, made him realise that he should have followed his gut instinct.

He sought feedback and got it. The feedback tells you the reason why you failed. So that you can prevent similar set backs in future. It is the reason why pathologists carry out autopsies, or post-mortems, lawyers conduct inquests, and structural engineers as well as regulators seek to know why a building collapsed.

In Nigeria, instead of seeking feedback, we prefer to attribute failure to bad luck, the enemies in the village or the fact that somebody does not like our face, stature or ethnic group.

Beautiful! Awesome! Those were the first words that crossed my mind, when I read this article. The next was "audacious." Paddy Adenuga has shared his thoughts, in a way that grips the senses and makes it difficult for you to look away. I would like to see this story made into a movie or at worst, a documentary, because there are too many valuable lessons in it.

1). It is not enough to dream, you must also 'do': Vision is what gives rise to action. And action is what gives birth to change. Too many of us dream of how to do something different, or make something great. Very few of us actually take the plunge. Paddy had an idea, and he took steps to make it happen. So many people have a dream, but do not know how to go about actualising it. Paddy had a dream, then he formed a plan, put up a structure, built a financial base, got the right people and executed it.

2). Money answereth most, (not all) things: Yes, one might have money, but if such funds are not deployed in a productive venture or in a fruitful manner, in the right way, at the right place, into the right endeavour, then such funds would never add any benefit to its' owner. It would dwindle, and eventually get frittered away. Too many rich kids live lives of opulence with zero sense of direction. It is critical to know when and how to throw the right sum of money into a good venture, in order to make it profitable.

Money, no matter how much it is, is certainly not a substitute for skill, expertise, hard work or talent. Money in the wrong hands could even become a destructive force, if the owner does not know what to do with it. Money could also prevent a person from thinking clearly, if it is allowed to cloud the senses. It is also critical to know exactly when to stop throwing good money after bad, and when to cut your losses and walk away.

3). A financial war chest is a great asset, but not a substitute for homework: Some dreams won't come true, unless you have the money to bring them to reality. As stated earlier, it is not just the cash that matters, but the work you put in to ensure that money makes things happen for you, or creates opportunities that work in your favour, or help you accomplish your tasks. There is an old saying that goes this way - "Take what you want from life, but make sure to pay for it." Paddy had a war chest of 50 million USD. It made everyone sit up, and take him seriously.

But the most important bit, was that Paddy did his homework thoroughly. He researched the company he wanted to buy inside out, he contacted movers and shakers that could influence the bid outcome, and persuaded his competitors to become his partners. Compare this to the DISCOs who bought over electricity firms in the country, and started crying about how indebted those firms were, the day after they had bought them. They even went back to govt to beg for more money at the end of the day.

4). Prepare, Collaborate - always get the best talent and reward them: In setting up Catalan, Paddy didn't look towards his clique, lineage, colour or ethnic group, but sourced for those with the right skills, the right aptitude, intelligence, talent and experience, who could contribute meaningfully to his endeavour, and brought them on board. He avoided mediocres. Only those who knew their stuff got on his team. One man does not make a forest.

He surrounded himself with valuable sources of experience in the form of his mentor, his advisers etc., and reached across global distances to form alliances, even with those who initially competed against him. In Nigeria, we like to do things alone and this sometimes takes a huge toll on us. In many places here, collaboration is almost like a dirty word...and many of us, don't listen to good advice. Too many folks often think they know it all.

5). Aim high, stake big: Paddy sought for the best deal for his company. He didn't think small. Another person might have seen the Chevron Netherlands acquisition, as too big a deal, to even touch. But for Paddy, it was the perfect vehicle to launch his vision. He didn't think it was too far-fetched for a young African boy, to make a bid for the Dutch subsidiary of one of the world's most successful oil companies - Chevron. Paddy had what they called 'chutzpah,' the Hebrew word for confidence and audacity.

6). Choose the right strategy, and listen to your instincts: When the power play started, Paddy had to change his strategy. He applied native wisdom to his tactics. First, when someone on the team of his competitors was becoming an obstacle to his plans, he fired off an explosive e-mail to his partners, that upset the apple cart. In the ensuing scramble to unravel the subsequent chain of events, his greatest stumbling block on the opposing team called Alex, played right into his hands.

Sometimes all the best advice in the world, might go against your gut instinct. What do you do? That is the million dollar question. It takes years of practice and sequence of events, to learn how to distinguish between the right gut instinct, and the wrong ones. Paddy made a few right calls when he followed his instincts, initially. But when he failed to go with his instincts, that one time - he lost.

7). Divine intervention has a part to play: Each time he was at a cross road, Paddy prayed. And somehow, answers came. He knew he didn't have all the answers so he trusted the Creator to step into the situation, and make things work out in his favour. Yet, in one instance he actually overlooked one of the answers sent to him by God, when he ignored Remi, an old friend who actually had the right keys to his puzzle. And it cost him big time, at the end of the day.

There are too many lessons to be learnt from this story, and I do hope that one day, Paddy would launch another bid for a global oil firm . I believe his next venture would be successful. Why? He has gone through a difficult baptism, and has learnt too many valuable lessons in how NOT to fail again, in a business deal. They don't teach such things in Harvard Business School.

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IamaNigerianGuy:
I am all for entrepreneurship but you must come down and face reality.

1. The recession and mangled economic system we operate means that people have no money to buy N50 milk much less go looking for investments. You invest when your basic needs are met. Are you aware that workers are owed salaries and pensions ?

2. EMTS founder (Bello-Osagie) was already a billionaire when he started his company. He used his university contacts to penetrate the arab royal families for investment in his venture, and his relationship with IBB to secure his telecom licence.

Point is, there is no level playing ground. These people are exploiting their unfair advantage gained in the past. Nobody needs to encourage a Nigerian to do business. It is in our genes. Level the playing field and watch them fly.

Keem Bello-Osagie was NOT a billionaire when he started EMTS. In fact, he was heavily indebted after buying the old UBA, and so he had to sell it off to Tony Elumelu who owned Standard Trust Bank, at that time. Elumelu bought over UBA, and decided to retain the name because after all, it was still a strong brand.

As for using "his university contacts to penetrate the arab royal families for investment in his venture, and his relationship with IBB to secure his telecom licence", every single international business man at some point in the other in their lives, would use every contact at their disposal, to take their business forward, or to make things work out in their favour. Individuals do it, governments do it.

In fact, part of the job of an ambassador in any country, is to promote the economic, trade and commercial interests of his nation, while serving as its diplomatic representative. They look out for the interests of their business men in order to protect them, and help them secure favourable overseas contracts. That is why you see them always organising trade missions and exchange programmes etc.

My only concern about Hakeem Bello-Osagie, is why his businesses always seem to reach a peak and stop growing, or eventually die out. Why? Does he get tired of them, or has he failed to learn from the lessons of his past?

MrMcJay:
I don't have to break down everything for you. This economic recession that a lot of Nigerians are experiencing throws up a lot of opportunities.

For instance, since the price of imported rice has risen, a smart investor would go and invest in the local rice chain. Seek out local rice producers and get the price per bag. Contact nearby restaurants and bulk buyers and promise to supply them at wholesale price with the option of payment on delivery. Even if you advertise local rice on NL, you are sure of plenty customers.

Instead of benefitting from the opportuinty above, they prefer to drink N10 garri and use it to insult Buhari on NL.

Let me tell you a true story.

Sometime ago during the telecoms boom in Nigeria, an very smart Nigerian who I respect so much formed a company called Emerging Markets Telecommunications Services (EMTS). He put the basic corporate structures on ground and ran it as a startup.

Subsequently, he approached some Arab investors to invest in his company. These Arab investors were impressed in his company that they decided to buy a part of it. Today, that company was Etisalat Nigeria and he owned 40% of Etisalat Nigeria.

If you think you are too young, go and read up the story of the guy behind Sujimoto Construction.

Don't make the mistakes your fathers made. Seek out opportunities and take advantage of them.

The entrepreneur who set up Emerging Markets Telecommunications Services (EMTS), is Hakeem Bello-Osagie. That is another man whose biography, I would like to read.

LUCKIE2014:
Lesson 1. As a business owner, it is sometimes best to follow your instincts when making strategic business decisions rather than relying solely on experts opinion

Lesson 2. Never be afraid to share your ideas with close friends and families, you never can tell where that "win factor" needed to enhance your ideas may come from.

Lesson 3. Never allow ego or pride to cloud your judgement when doing business.

Not a big fan of the man, but I think it was an excellent piece.

Very true! There are still more lessons in his piece. I counted about 12, but I will share just 7 that struck me, shortly.

JideTheBlogger:

stephenmorris: Remi then revealed the biggest bombshell of my Chevron Netherlands adventure. The managing director of Petrogas of Oman was a close friend of his and he knew he was bidding for Chevron Netherlands at the time. If I had told him what I was up to when we saw in London, whilst I was searching for the last bidder, he would have introduced us. I was blown away. There it was that whole time. That mystery last bidder that I had searched so hard for was there for my taking and it passed right by me.

I went back home that night and made myself the strongest drink. History couldn’t tell this story. I would have to.

I swear this part got to me! Can you imagine??! For him to have discovered the reason for his failure, staring him in the face - it was his sense of caution that cost him the deal, his failure to trust Remi with information at that time, because he didn't want his deal, to be jinxed by giving out info to a fellow Nigerian! Kai! I would have shed tears, if I was in his shoes!

MrMcJay:
Just look at the comments on this thread and you'll realise that more Nigerians suffer from intellectual poverty than financial poverty.

The lessons to be learnt from that article are more than what some Nigerians learnt in their entire time spent in school and they don't have the wisdom to read and pick a lesson or two.

10 Years from now, Paddy would be a billionaire under 40, some people who picked lessons from this article might have surpassed Paddy in wealth but our dumb friends would still be shouting "I receive" in Church not knowing that their Pastors are also reading and picking lessons from this post.

You are so-oo-oo right!! And that is why we keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again as Nigerians, both in our public and private lives. We learn nothing, from our failures and our past experiences. Why??

222Martins:
Why do i have this feeling that he is trying to get a pat on the back or prove to society how smart he is or prove to society that he is not a daddy's boy?? Every business man has once in his life backed a deal that didn't sail through and they never made a fuss out of it. Dangote and Femi Otedola didn't sail through with their Blue Star Consortium backed by Tony Elumelu, Cecilia Ibru, Jim Ovia and others.

Now in retrospect, Nearly does not kill a bird!!! In big deals, there's no second place. It's a winner takes all game. I understand he was trying to stay within his circle of competence which is within the oil and gas industry. But with the kind of money and circle of friends he has, he would have just bought out or back a tech startup and ride the waves.

Update: Now for those that may have opposing views, i have read and re-read the article time and again. Aside the euphoria of the write-up, i observed the "I" factor. He credited himself too much, trying too hard to make us understand how smart and brilliant he is. You paid your team thousands of dollars and you don't want to listen to them, you would have gone it all alone and save your money. He should go thank his God the deal didn't sail through. Just like one of my mentor's do say:

"If you are the smartest person on your team, you are in trouble."

2. He lacks personal business experience. He got too emotionally attached to the deal. If there's one thing every businessman knows, it's that there's always another deal opportunity coming.

You missed the point. Such stories are valuable because they contain a host of tangible lessons that can be learnt, by others. His story can be captioned in one word: "experience," or the lack of it.

In Nigeria, we always ignore such stories, even when there are one or more lessons we could pick from it, that would benefit us.

Project managers often do something at the end of a project. It is called 'Post-project implementation Close out Review or Post Implementation Review.' You sit back and take stock of what you did wrong, and what you did right. Take note of the bottle-necks, challenges and difficulties that marred the project along the way, and draft strategies on how to prevent such incidents in future. Or you conduct a root cause analysis of the project flaws, with a view to minimising or eliminating such flaws within the said project, now or in the future.

Foreign countries that boast of better infrastructure, well-executed trade deals, improved commercial transactions, expertly managed projects and experienced professionals, are able to do so, because in part, they have learnt from their mistakes, in order not to repeat it. And that is what Paddy has done with this piece. It just reminds me of George Santayana's words.

liltee123:
http://www.teevibeblog.com.ng/2017/12/see-amount-she-was-charged-for-using.html

You bloggers will not enter heaven. You want us to click on that link, ehn? Never... you are too lazy to paste the photo here. Keep the photo in your pocket, we are not interested.

oladotcom:
*PROHIBITION OF THE USE OF HIJAB/VEIL IN SOME PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS: WHAT IS THE POSITION OF THE LAW?*
BY
_O. G. CHUKKOL._

One of the challenges Muslim females are facing is the wearing of hijab. Hijab is a veil they use in covering their body. These challenges are found even in public institutions. The proscription of the use of veils is normally done through rules made in those institutions. For example there has been complaint that hijab is not allowed in Nigerian Law School, it happened also in Kwara, Lagos, Osun State etc where students were not allowed to wear hijab to schools.

This article seeks to establish that prohibiting Muslim females from wearing veils in public institutions is unconstitutional. Whether the position is the same in private institutions or not is outside the scope of this article.

To clear a preliminary point, I am a Christian and shall by the grace of God die a Christian. This work is based on my little understanding of the law and love for rule of law. The work is also informed by my agreement with the words of *Martin Luther King Jr.* who once said:

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly."

In other words, it is Muslim female facing it today, tomorrow it may be Christians. So, I feel spade should be called a spade.

Let us first examine the basis of the use of hijab by Muslim women. *Chapter 24 verse 30-31 of the Glorious Holy Quran* says:

“... Enjoin believing women to COVER THEIR GAZE and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that THEY SHOULD DRAW THEIR VEILS OVER THEIR BOSOMS AND NOT DISPLAY THEIR BEAUTY except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband’s father, their sons, their husband’s Sons, their brothers or their brother’s Sons or their sisters’ sons or other women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, ..."

Hit follows from the verse above that wearing of hijab by Muslim women is a Quranic injunction so a Muslim female is bound to obey it without question. ......*

The word 'hijab' cannot be found anywhere, inside the Koran. And the gown lawyers wear, is big enough to be drawn over the bosom. The hijab, in case you have not noticed, is draped across or over the head and neck, and not across the bosom. So what kind of excuse is this?

Vivere:
Am not twisting anything. Hypocrisy runs in your veins which is why you are so ready to tag others with that silly label. Did Firdaus tell you she was ignorant of the proper mode of dressing for lawyers? Didn't she know that the head covering or hijab was not part of the prescribed dress code for lawyers, when she started studying law all the way to the law school?

As for the pictures you showed in your previous post, I was unaware that a Sikh judge or Sikh lawyers were allowed to wear turbans as part of their dress code to appear in court. So how can someone be tagged a hypocrite, on account of something he is totally unaware of?

Apart from that, I just learnt that Sikhs were allowed to wear their turbans as a result of a court ruling enacted in 2015. Does such a similar court ruling exist in Nigeria??

You are the one that needs to receive sense and stop twisting issues, o! Even Mariam Mukhtar Aloma who is a former Chief Justice of Nigeria from July 2012 to November 2014 and was called to the English Bar in November, 1966 did not wear a hijab under her lawyer's outfit to court, did she?

You made a valid point. I wonder why female Muslim lawyers did not raise the issue of wearing a hijab as part of their wig and gown to court, when Justice Mariam Mukhtar Aloma was the Chief Justice of Nigeria. After all, she was a female Muslim lawyer and judge, wasn't she??

poshest:
Zee World, extraordonary fools everyday!. I give up

In fact, I think their script writers underestimate the intelligence of their international audience most of the time. I also noticed that English versions of their Indian series, have a lot of the original scenes edited and cut out. It probably explains why the English episodes appear disjointed, unappealing and illogical in some aspects of the serials.

Love Oh Love has finally ended. It was revealed towards the end, that it was their family members that kidnapped Avni and Raj, in order to prevent them from leaving them for ever.

Vivere:
You just wan use laugh to kill everyone for here!!

Some people are citing "jet engines" as an example, because they are too ignorant for words. Erico2k2 should just have ignored him, honestly!

erico2k2:
Jet Engine ? where did you get that from?
So you did not have eyes to see the electric cables above

Oh lawd....who brought jet engines into this topic, now? That guy you quoted is just too ridiculous for words, I swear!

AxxeMan:
Tell us your tribe , I do not have time for your cheer leading nonsense

Answer my questions, first. Has anyone told you that you cannot prosper in this life, unless you get to know my tribe and seek blessings from them? Na simple question, I ask. Tell us, o.

AxxeMan:
Cheerleader tell us your tribe and stop making noise!

Well you norget job before , oya list them let's see

I know the only word you learnt in English is 'cheerleader.' Maybe that was the name you were baptised with at birth, not so? Let us know Axxeman = PabloAfricanus. Or do you want to tell us another lie?

AxxeMan:
Who be dis one? ..... Laudate I am not like you who is too ashamed to tell everyone his tribe...Unceremonial cheerleader ... It is you who should be banned for alternate account on nairaland ....

Ashamed of what? Is my tribe owing you any money, or have they said you cannot make progress in life, unless you know my tribe and seek their blessings? Let us know. As for the mod that is supporting your antics, God will deal with him without delay. All your alternate accounts are well known. Should I list them here?

crackerspub:
You still they take panadol for another person matter na wa

So now you know that majority of Igbos don't bury dead relations immediately, some do it to show class while some do it because the kids are not ready for the burial.

Baba Ramota this is not head mining business, please face front

BabaRamota come and reply this post, o! Am interested in your answer....

Anyway, such long delays are an abomination in my tribe. Wait first, you mean the kids have not been ready for the burial, for the past 5 years??!

AxxeMan:
As tempting as it is for me to decimate you on this thread, I will leave your Yoruba ass for the Igbo's to destroy

See the Igbo man pretending to be an Edo guy. Moderator, read his comments. This is a breach of rule 2. He is bullying and insulting a Nairalander. Kindly ban him for this breach.

Acidosis:
Those Fulani herdsmen will end up executing Yahaya Bello and his unfortunate children.

He won't get away with this. You can't invite these criminals to Yagba land and expect to continue to live a life of luxury with your imbecilic family in Okene. What goes around will come around, and the stone he sent to Yagba land will end up hitting him hard right on the head.

Yagba land (both EAST and WEST) says NO to Fulani grazing!

Dino Melaye will not raise the issue of the atrocities committed by the herdsmen against his people. Neither will he seek help to bring the killers to justice. But he will jump around like a gadfly, wearing another gold tie to the Saraki's daughter's wedding. He is just a disgrace!