pafun:
Because your husband was a devout Republican you will never talk to a Democrat president? You are even Latino family too for that matter. You are all mad inside that Republican cult.

She's right to decline Joe's call

ElSudani:
Stupid brainwashed woman. If Biden had nothing to do with it then simple courtesy suggests you should take his call.
She is far more scared of what the other brainwashed Republicans will think of her.
Her husband died for a man who cares only about himself.

Biden's dangerous campaign rhetoric inspired the assassin

cococandy:
She can get over it

At least that’s what her dead husband said about innocent people women and children who were bombed in Gaza.

God works in mysterious ways

Meanwhile Trump hasn’t reached out to her and he probably never will. Their devotion to the cult of this man who gives zero shits about them needs to be studied.

Look at his heartlessness on display

You're spewing leftist conspiracies... Where's the proof that the account belonged to him?
After years you still don't understand why peeps love Trump? You need to be deported ASAP

LordAdam16:


All Trump picks are going to be playing defense from Day 1.
That comes with the territory.

Pence was a silver bullet. He laid a lot of concerns to rest for a nominee that was still a wildcard at the time.
Trump is not an unknown anymore. He desperately needs help in the Midwest and amongst white suburban women.

Let me put this way, in 2016, it was either Pence or an actual cleric.
Today, there are way better choices than Vance who check the "win at all cost" box.

-Lord

If he's not unknown anymore then he shouldn't have a problem convincing Midwesterners to vote for him... After all the voted for him based on his messaging and not Pence.
Neocons struggle in the Midwest-Rust Belt states since Bush.
Vance would be fine... He'll continue the maga policies after Trump's gone.

This election would continue to be a referendum on Biden

LordAdam16:


Pence was chosen to pacify the Evangelicals.
Vance is being touted as a vote magnet in the Rust Belt.

Apples to Oranges.

-Lord

Remember Pence was was called a bad pick, an extreme christofascist.
Somewhat incompetent... that failed to contain the HIV pandemic in his state.

Let's not act like he was given an all round applause

LordAdam16:


Pence was chosen to pacify the Evangelicals.
Vance is being touted as a vote magnet in the Rust Belt.

Apples to Oranges.

-Lord

Vance was chosen as a continuity of maga populism and assassination insurance.
It goes both ways... There's always a reason

LordAdam16:




I was going to respond line by line; but I've made my main concerns clear and have gone on the record as being displeased by this pick.

Time to close ranks and pull out all the stops to return Trump to 1600 Penn Ave.

-Lord

Yeah... Don't let the Dems and their surrogates in the media bamboozle and gaslight you.
Taunt the VP nominee as the best... At least better than Kamala

bemeruca:


We are waiting for Saturday when Biden will fake assassination attempt just to cancel out the new voters trump just secured.

Some people want us to believe that indictment can make Trump more popular with voters but not an attempt by a lib to assassinate him. Trump 2024. I wish I could vote.

They're desperados... Nobody votes for president based on VP in 2024.


Muh delectability...

feedthenation:


---Can someone please post a link to one single piece of legislation bearing Senator Vance's "mark"?---

It wouldn't matter to you... You're mindset is baked to negativity

LordAdam16:


You're making my point for me.
If you're going to eat a frog, eat a big one.
If you're going to cheat, best be with a model.

It's politics. I get it. Everyone is in it to win.
So why not Haley?
Haley is a slam dunk. Whatever the argument is about the viability of Vance, Haley is a far more logical pick.

You can't use Neocon as a negative epithet when Vance is a Yale Venture Capitalist.

-Lord

Talk about electability

LordAdam16:


You should look up the result sheet of his Senate election.
He won by 6 points. In solid-red, double-digit Ohio.
Anywhere else in the Midwest and he'd have lost.
He had to win that by 12+ points to create the impression that he has independent star power or favorability in the Rust Belt.
That's not what happened. He ain't hitting a home run in Michigan and Wisconsin.
This forced Rust Belt connection is tenuous at best.

The hype about Hillbilly Elegy was feverish at the time he was calling Trump Hitler and a rapist.
Pence is yet to vilify Trump to the same degree that Vance has done in the past.
I will not defend a redneck Obrigardo who changed his tone the minute it became politically expedient.
You can appoint turncoats to agencies, you don't anoint them as Heir Apparent.
How can you skip over day one loyalists like Carson and Sanders for a Peter-Thiel-Yale groupie.

That's why I said he may well have picked Nikki.
Because Haley has more electoral value in her pinky finger than Vance has in his entire constitution.
If winning is the primary consideration, you don't skip Nikki, Tulsi, Stefanik, and Rubio for Vance.

I don't buy that Vance is a changed person. I think he is an opportunist.
And if he can change his mind about Trump being Hitler, he sure as hell can change it right back when it suits him.
No different from the Mattis, Pompeo, Barr, and all the back-stabbing, smooth-talking, grimy a*holes before him.

And let's not pretend that a ticket with two white males is not tone-deaf.
It may help a little that his wife is Asian. But the VP had to be a minority and/or female.
Vance is Oz 2.0. And if Biden hadn't folded like a cheap suit during the debate and July 13 hadn't happened; this pick would have been tantamount to self-sabotage.

Lastly, something needs to be done about the Republican Party in the Midwest.
It's so hollow.

-Lord

Bush won Ohio by 2 points in 2004 while the senate candidate won by 27 points.

Tim Ryan is a seasoned career politician, incumbent congressman and the second strongest candidate in Ohio that ran as an actual moderate in a year that republicans were put in the bullseye on abortion.
He may not add much to the ticket but he creates a great contrast to Trump's age factor and is a heir to the ticket in 2028 which is better than throwing it open by then... He also insures that populism doesn't die after Trump

Kamala Harris called Biden racist and said she actually believed her accuser in Tara Reade yet Biden chose her as running mate.

Most on the list are all opportunitists and potential backstabbers (perhaps except for Carson)... Who should Trump have chosen instead?

Kamala Harris is an Californian extremist and a weirdo but it didn't matter.
Voters view Biden unfavorable and this election would continue to be about his age and policies and not Vance's regardless.

Vance actually won a real race while Oz lost (though I don't blame for it at all) though the dynamics is different.
The downballot candidates opponents were meh and literally unknown and underfunded but the senate was top tier and heavily funded... So don't compare Vance with Oz.
Vance is an actual Ohioan and not some carpetbagger from New Jersey.

With this the deep state wouldn't want Vance in power and that assassination insurance

I love the ticket! Such a masterclass by Trump!

tevinsolt:
Elon the "Billionaire Nut-Job". Can't believe I used to think he was intelligent. Nothing much farther from the truth.

At least he's more intelligent than you

LordIsaac:
I had thought he would pick Ben Carson...

Carson is almost same age as Trump... 74 or so.
It'd make the ticket look too old

Wotowotoman:


How so? Did you know Vance before this news broke? 🤔

Yeah Vance is a terrific Senator from Ohio and solid on issues

raskymonojendor:
Good choice. We will see how the election goes. I still prefer DeSantis to trump and alot of Republican will still be voting against Trump for that reason

You don't even know what's going on

MasterJayJay:
It's pathetic that two parties chose to present 2 candidates that are unfit to be in that seat.

Biden has memory loss issues but his team can actually manage that. Institutions in America can still work very well despite his memory loss issues.

Trump is chaos. He will turn the institutions upside down.

And you're in Nigeria getting worried about America... Think about your next meal

Mintum:
JD Vance is a good choice, better than burgum and less of an establishment politician than Rubio. However my preferred VP choice was Dr Ben Carson followed by Vivek Ramaswamy. Any way, congrats to JD Vance the incoming vice President of the United States of America.

Carson was also my choice but I guess it's due to his age.

Carson is in his mid 70s so both senior citizens in same ticket would be bad especially since voters are mostly against Biden because he's too old

bemeruca:


We will have a coon, uncle tom for VP.

We have the first black president and his black coon VP JD Vance!!

Vance is a good pick... Would win younger voters and also has rust belt appeal and the best part...


He's assassination-proof for Trump.

I'm sure Trump made he's reassessment after they tried to kill him.
Choose a neocon and they poison/take Trump out for he/she to take over and further their globalist agenda.

bnanny:
Hey Musk be logical You're Maga boy. You should you know this was stage by trump maga camp to swing the winning to trump.

People alerted the police and secrets service about guy on black with raffle on the rooftop but they never care to react, this is not how America securities work. It's fishing this is stage to swing votes to Trump. Let him explain what happened for real and let all those involved face justice of America no-nonsense system.

You're living in a shithole country so...

LordBiden:

Lol

Some of u nairaland clowns think trump is Gods candidate while biden and democrats are the devil's candidate.

Many don't even know that biden is a staunch Roman Catholic.

Is this a satire?
If Biden is a staunch catholic then I'm the pope.

LordAdam16:


You might need to recheck your source.

https://ballotpedia.org/Republican_Party_primaries_in_Pennsylvania,_2024
https://www.vote411.org/node/12165

It's easy to make the semantic mistake.
Open is when anyone can vote in the primary.
Closed is when potential voters have to be registered members of the party conducting the primary.

-Lord

my bad... I conflicted some things.
There's no need switching registration in open primaries.

LordAdam16:


He is a troll.
He locks in on a st*pid tangent. When you shred that, he segues into something else.
You'll go round in circles, glance at the time and recognize you've wasted hours you'd never get back.

Then you have to stop conversing so he has the last word where he repeats the exact same falsehoods you'd eviscerated earlier.

-Lord

That's why I don't bother engaging him... He's either a bot or a manifestation of decades of leftist indoctrination.

I can't call him a lib because liberals are smarter than leftists

raumdeuter:


In many primaries Democrats have routinely interfered to boost perceived extreme candidates in Republican primaries so that can be easily beaten in general elections

They did for Bolduc in New Hampshire where he lost, they did for Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania where he ended losing the main elections to Shapiro. It's a tested strategy the Dems have used.

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/11/1135878576/the-democrats-strategy-of-boosting-far-right-candidates-seems-to-have-worked

They tried to boost Sandy Smith in NC-1 and Ron Hanks in CO - 3

raumdeuter:


Your understanding is always shocking and betrays the education you claim

You are easily the dumbest and most despicable poster on this thread

That guy is very annoying as fk... Behaves like a troll

LordAdam16:


This.

Pennsylvania is a closed primary state.

157,000 voted for Haley, many of whom were democrats who registered as Republicans to be able to vote Haley.

-Lord

Open not closed

raumdeuter:


It depends on whether a state is open or closed primary

We have always known Democrats who register as Republicans to vote in Republican primaries to try and get an easier opponents

It was common for many Democrats, A lot of "Haley voters" were actual Democrats who didnt want Trump

Pennsylvania is an open primary state so he's definitely a leftist that registered as a republican to vote for Doug Mastriano in order to get an easier opponent.

bemeruca:


that was not campaigning, that was showing resilience, I am still standing even as they put a bullet through me. what you saw was a historical moment, a show of leadership.

He's strongwilled

bemeruca:
50 Cent is performing many men for Trump.

he gat hit like i gat hit but he ain't fuqing breathing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f90BL4uVIag

givedemwotowoto:


Trump himself has been donating to both democrats and republicans before running for office

People donate to whoever they want all the time.

The boy registered as a Republican shortly after graduating from high school 2 years ago

Trump last donated to Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2008 when he was still a democrat... There's was this recent trick by Dems to register as Republicans to vote for the weaker candidate in primaries. And also to blow up the whole primary and cause havoc we saw it with Nikki Haley this cycle.

The assassin guy didn't donate directly to the candidate or PAC he donated to the leftist engine Actblue.
Registrations doesn't necessarily depict ideology especially in a country It's easy to switch like America.

Lots of registered democrats in Kentucky and Louisiana only vote Republicans till this day (check party registration of those states in Wikipedia)...So don't try to justify this act by saying he's a republican.

You can't just twist that he's a registered Republican therefore he's a Trump supporter.

givedemwotowoto:
I heard he was a registered Republican too

Taking a shot at a presidential candidate? Why should someone capable of this be able to own a gun?

Hopefully they find his motivation

Party registration doesn't mean ideology... He donated to the democrats.
He only switched to republican to vote in the primaries

Roboto11:
Just another Republican.

That donated to democrats

LordAdam16:


I was curious about the Oz-vote allegation. Where did she get that tidbit from?

-Lord

She's a liar... Just a rabid low IQ pig.
She's spews left wing conspiracies and falsehoods.