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NuCypher:
This right there is the evidence of your gross hypocrisy. I have seen you post Christian messages here on nairaland and have never taken you seriously at any time, partly because of the emptiness of your responses and partly because of what you just did here. You know very well that [/b]Trump is an abuser, a hypocrite[b], or what you'll call a sinner in your own lingo. This is a man that indulged h.ookers, a man that talks down on disabled people, a man that is wicked at heart and is no respecter of the law or of your own God. Yet, here too are pushing the narrative that God has ordained him. Are you just nuts or are you daft? What exactly is the content of your so-called religion if this is what you believe!?

There's no single evidence to these... Keep spewing left-wing talking points.

cococandy:
Sincerity is easy to find in the dems. Not amongst the repubs. Because they know very well Trump raped a 13 year old but they’re okay with it

Are you a conspiracy theorist? We can go down that lane.
Biden showered with his teenage daughter... How about that?

cococandy:
The problem I have with democrats is that they’ll always expect perfection from their candidate while republicans will stand like a cult behind their raping, criminal incompetent buffoon as long as they get to win. They’ll justify, deny, gaslight, skirt truths and outrightly defend egregious behavior if it suits them.

While democrats are busy picking apart irrelevant imperfections in their candidates. If they stupidly let Trump win this election, it will be the last election America ever holds and I hope they’ll be happy when that happens.

America as a republic is bigger than Trump, Biden, Dems, Repubs etc.
They have strong and reliable institutions that can act independently.
You guys fear mongering and dooming isn't gonna help Biden right now because the notion is baked-in especially in this era of polarization.

Dems would definitely vote for Biden's corpse and Repubs would vote for Trump even if he shot someone dead at this juncture but independent-unaffiliated voters would always decide the fate of America (check 2020 general and 2022 midterms exit polls).

Hope you dig?

cococandy:
The problem I have with democrats is that they’ll always expect perfection from their candidate while republicans will stand like a cult behind their raping, criminal incompetent buffoon as long as they get to win. They’ll justify, deny, gaslight, skirt truths and outrightly defend egregious behavior if it suits them.

While democrats are busy picking apart irrelevant imperfections in their candidates. If they stupidly let Trump win this election, it will be the last election America ever holds and I hope they’ll be happy when that happens.

You can say this without crying... Cope and seethe

ijebosb:
This is pure propaganda.
What does this even mean?
Trump's speech was objectively poor and rambling.

If you can't admit that, you're lying.
This is the difference between the two parties.
One lives in a cult bubble and spreads propaganda, the other can call a spade a spade.

This is just Trump being "Trump"... He's never gonna change to whom you liberals or media want him to be - deal with it!

The Dems are still in chaos and Biden's own personal/administrative issues and shortcomings would continue to supercede Trump's flaws.

His rally was cut short by the devil so 🤷... Besides the speech courted some moderates who have now decided to vote for Trump (per CNN) which proves its effectiveness on the counterbalance (tentacles expansion).

Trump isn't perfect but give me a break, dude almost lost his life days ago... I know you silently wished the bullet got him good but if saying his mind would help him alleviate the pain and recover from the shock then I'm all in.

Kudos for staying on the issues today and not being a cheap troll 👏

Solid acceptance speech by Trump!
A bit long but still maintains his esteem and originality.

basilico:
A product of hate emanating from media.

This fat lazy slob robbed and looted shops during the George Floyd protests.
Product of food stamps and stimulus checks.

SmartPolician:
All the odds are against Biden in this election, but the people will still decide his fate.

I strongly believe that Biden will still win because Trump doesn't represent the kind of liberal lifestyle Americans want.

Considering Biden's age, I am deeply concerned about him contracting COVID-19. May God grant him a quick recovery.

America is only liberal in movies.
It's deeply religious and conservative than Europe.

basilico:
Im more or less leaning towards the Deep State involvement in the assassination attempt.
They wanted him shot live on TV for whatever reasons. Right before the RNC convention.A big fuq you to Trump supporters.
Killer 20 years has no social media presence yet is a gamer. He had explosives in his car but has no search history on his laptop He had a remote detonator, one with a 2KM range. He thought he would shoot and then detonate his IED. Excuse me.
The only photo they could get was an innocent fresh schooler. I find that hard to believe.
Secret service knew at least 20 minutes there was a threat to Trump's life, yet let him speak.
They knew there was a guy with a rifle on the unguarded roof minutes before he opened fire. The Secret Service Director said the unguarded roof was sloping do they couldn't put a sniper team there.

shit looks like a CIA, KGB, Mossad kinda stuff... They tweaked the boy's record and perfectly framed it a republican that donated to democrats in order to create confusion.

Vance's speech was solid, charismatic, unifying and striking!
He's the best VP nominee in a very loooog time... Perfecto!

bemeruca:
It is not automatic for Vance to be the front runner just because he is the VP. He may be a running mate and not gain any traction in the shadows of Trump.

Vance is charismatic and a millennial... I'm sure his the future of the republican party if Trump wins.

Pence was dud and bland but if he didn't betray Trump he'd have been shoe in for the nomination this year... He wouldn't have had any major challenges from the right and would have gotten Trump's nod as a loyal lieutenant.

I repeat, DeSantis' only chance is if Trump loses.

raumdeuter:
Trump already moved from NY to Florida after 2016and his reason for moving was because Florida is a red state, why will he now move back to NJ another blue state. You really think Trump will move state to accommodate anyone especially a Vice?

What derogatory thing did Ron say about Trump during the campaign?

He dropped out after NH and endorsed Trump without reservation

So many in the media were even taunting Ron for not attacking Trump even when Trump was attacking him

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/desantis-refuses-attack-trump-vermin-remark-rcna127871

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/03/us/politics/desantis-trump.html

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/desantis-confronted-supporter-directly-after-trump/story?id=106084109

He can still move to New Jersey if the permutations requires that... It's political posturing and calculation.

Trump's move to Florida didn't stop his political prosecution in New York neither would it hinder one in Vegas, New Jersey or even Florida(DeSantis was rumored to have been nonchalant or possibly complicit in Mar-alago's DOJ's raid though it's debatable)

Yeah he moved out of New York mostly due to the cesspit the state has become but if politics demands he moves back there for the culture then he would.
Doesn't mean he's gonna live there... He just have to refill his home address to FEC as New Jersey, Nevada, New York etc

Ron might not have called Trump names but he threw jabs and served as a useful idiot to the Liberal media... Parroting left-wing talking points about Trump causing an insurrection, actually losing the election and causing Republicans to lose in the midterms.

Poll after poll showed there was no part for him (he was even losing his home state by 30 points), he remained in the race to undermine and provoke Trump thereby dividing the party.
His supporters ported to Kennedy's ship as a result that.

As I've said earlier, DeSantis run for president made little sense because he's ideologically inclined to Maga... He was seen as the heir but he was too fast.
He could have strongly endorsed Trump and ended any media speculation of his running... Then waited for VP or 28(peradventure Trump lost) thereby serving as the messiah to the party but he blew it.
He sat on 200 million dollars after the governorship election, refusing to answer if he's running or not to the media even after being pressed by Charlie Crist during the debate... Helping fuel the talks of his running.

He listened to his donors instead of his base.

LordAdam16:
Absolutely.

-Lord

If only he's ineffective or incompetent like Kamala Harris or he fell out with Trump like Pence.

Similarly, if Whitmer challenges Harris to the nomination, she (Harris) would still be a favourite.

DeSantis would cease power by 2026 and may erode from people's mind by 2028 while Vance would still be making policies till then.

Trump would 100% endorse Vance to be his successor over DeSantis.
Coupled with Vance's incumbency advantage... It's gonna be lights out for anything DeSantis still holds by then.

bemeruca:
There is a future for DeSantis. Vivek was a snake in the primaries. Haley was intoxicated by the potential she saw when dems started voting for her.

JD vance may not even stand a chance against DeSantis. Trump has a huge base and no one would have survived going against him.

Where's the future if I may ask.

How does DeSantis stand a chance against VP Vance (who will inherit Trumpism and MAGA)?
He couldn't even beat Nikki Haley to second in his home state of Florida.

If DeSantis tries to challenge Vance he'd be given the same treatment Trump gave him during the primaries... Vance would remind the base of the betrayer DeSantis is.
DeSantis was roasted and demolished day and night by Trump and his base right from the 'failure to launch' of his campaign on Twitter to abysmal performance in Iowa after campaigning no where else but there for months.

Not sure about Vivek but I think the guy would be solid on issues like Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Ted Cruz... He needs to be given the chance to prove himself.

DeSantis only hope is a Trump's loss... That would re-ignite his slogan of 'I know how to win'

Haley's and DeSantis' ego led to their downfall.

raumdeuter:
He couldnt have been VP anyway because he is Florida gov, How does a sitting Florida governor find a way around the home state issue? Will he claim to be from another state while still being Florida governor?

JD called Trump Hitler, today he is his VeePee,
Romney blasted Trump in the run up to 2016, yet was considered for Secretary of State.
Ben Carson ran against Trump and was made HUD secretary
Vivek also ran against Trump, now he is one of his surrogates,
Ron while in the run never attacked Trump personally the way JD did

Did you see Trumps reception of DeSantis speech yesterday?

I like DeSantis and I hope post FL governorship he gets on the National stage

Trump could practically move to New Jersey... He has properties there. It's same reason ever Rubio was considered.

JD retraced his steps and apologised that he was wrong and voted for Trump in 2020.

Romney wasn't ever considered personally by Trump as secretary of state... It was mostly speculations that Rod Rosenstein told Trump to appoint Romney as Secretary of state after he (Rod Rosenstein) and Romney visited Trump shortly after the inauguration.
The establishment were those floating that.

Trump saw Ben Carson as his best friend during the primaries of 2016 and Carson didn't make derogatory remarks against Trump(he endorsed Trump immediately after dropping out)... Same as Vivek (he infact was seen as his surrogate).

Ron ran a bitter and spiteful campaign against Trump... He burnt about 200 million dollars only to lose every county in Iowa despite spending most of his time there.
His campaign was kinda annoying just like Haley's.
I don't really see a future for him at near politically.
He may try the senate if Rubio or Rick retires.

Do you think he'd challenge Vance for the nomination by 2028?

raumdeuter:
Biden and Hilary went against Obama in primary
McCain went against Bush in Primary
Romney went against McCain in primary
H Bush went against Reagan in primary

DeSantis running against Trump pained and vexed Trump the most.
DeSantis was considered a rising star to continue the maga policies.

Trump didn't really much about others except Haley because of her globalist/pro-war stance.

raumdeuter:
How did he kill his career?

He could have been leading Trump's shortlist for VP if they found a way round the home state issue.

Maga still loathes DeSantis for running against Trump...Trump took the hold step of endorsing DeSantis in the primaries in 2018 when he was posing to Putnam but how did he pay him back?

Nikki Haley challenging Trump wasn't much a surprise bearing their policy difference but DeSantis is considered a Trump clone and similar ideologically.

He could have waited for 2028.

If Trump wins Vance would be the nominee in 2028.
DeSantis may be done.
Damn! I truly still like that guy.

raumdeuter:
This is my man Ron DeSantis speaking

Too bad how he killed his career

Dpharisee:
Argentines are racists, the only country in South America that ensured that blacks are wiped out and gave refuge to Nazis who escaped from Germany after committing genocide and holocaust.

People are blinded by their top players and performance in football to forget their dark history, what they are singing is supposed to be a racist song only for the ears of Argentines but social media exposes everything these days

Complain... Stay in your damn country

Litmus:
I have not an ounce of pity for Trump. I only feel sad for the would-be assassin because he was so young, just 20, and sorry for his family. I also feel sadness for the fireman and his family. I only fault the security detail assigned to Trump for not acting quick enough so that the boy is apprehended and saved from himself instead of as things panned out. Saving Trump wasn't my concern. Apparently that boy was shot through one eye. Imagine how his parents must feel.

Trump clinching his fist and mouthing, "fight, fight' was pathetic. His flabby face only elicited in me a wish that I could reach through the TV screen and give him a solid slap! How people can feel sympathy for Trump that felt no sympathy for a few notable past deaths, is beyond
me. His casual remarks after George Floyd's death; that 12 year old boy that the police shot dead, mistaking his cap-gun for a real gun; the woman deliberately run over by a racist during the Black Lives matter protest; and the two men shot dead by that idiotic, possibly racist teenager, Kyle Rittenhouse during the civil unrest that followed the shooting of Jacob Blake. Kyle Rittenhouse is an all American Hero in Trump's world.

Trump was smug throughout. Yet he now wants sympathy after being shot himself and he is unfortunately getting an avalanche load of care and support.

I can't express how annoying it is to witness the so called Right poncing around acting all wronged when they are instigators in chief.

This only helps Trump's election

biina:
The level of mumurity of these Trump supporters high pass Everest.

The guy she is supporting, the actual target of the stray bullet that killed her husband, doesnt give a fvck about her and her loss. Trump cares more about ranting on social media than consoling the widow of a man who took a bullet that was meant for him.

The are willing to die for him but he doesnt care an iota about them. If these people were not whites, I would have swore they were Nigerians

Trump supporters are better than you in all ramifications... Facts!

viodemus:
It's her loss.

Biden showed humility and empathy, he is a principled man.


Prayers for her son. It was an unfortunate situation.


Joe Biden will win again. All the heap of lies from the opposition party, will fall back on their candidate. Biden is God's instrument for good in America and the world.


May God continue to bless the USA the great.

Are you drunk or?
Biden and God can never be used in the same sentence.

tnerro1:
Trump has said he will attend the funeral of her husband

Once Trump attends they'll say it's virtue signalling and eye service too.

CommonSense1967:
Trump has more cult followers than most dictators in Africa.
Pls stop posting rubbish trash. More people are willing to die for Trump than most African politicians can ever imagine in their lifetime.
Trump is god to some delusional idiots here in the US.

Those idiots are more intelligent than you

GEEBITE:
Evil heart. You are a woman too. Hope you will like to be condoled in that manner. You can relocate to Gaza but probably on B1/B2

FYI, Trunp's PAC has raised over $4m for the 3 families(one dead and two injured) to be shared equally. It is not only via hanging on coattail of liberalism or being woke that you can obtain green card .There are other clear paths too.

She claims others are brainwashed but she's more deluded

pafun:
Because your husband was a devout Republican you will never talk to a Democrat president? You are even Latino family too for that matter. You are all mad inside that Republican cult.

She's right to decline Joe's call

ElSudani:
Stupid brainwashed woman. If Biden had nothing to do with it then simple courtesy suggests you should take his call.
She is far more scared of what the other brainwashed Republicans will think of her.
Her husband died for a man who cares only about himself.

Biden's dangerous campaign rhetoric inspired the assassin

cococandy:
She can get over it

At least that’s what her dead husband said about innocent people women and children who were bombed in Gaza.

God works in mysterious ways

Meanwhile Trump hasn’t reached out to her and he probably never will. Their devotion to the cult of this man who gives zero shits about them needs to be studied.

Look at his heartlessness on display

You're spewing leftist conspiracies... Where's the proof that the account belonged to him?
After years you still don't understand why peeps love Trump? You need to be deported ASAP

LordAdam16:
All Trump picks are going to be playing defense from Day 1.
That comes with the territory.

Pence was a silver bullet. He laid a lot of concerns to rest for a nominee that was still a wildcard at the time.
Trump is not an unknown anymore. He desperately needs help in the Midwest and amongst white suburban women.

Let me put this way, in 2016, it was either Pence or an actual cleric.
Today, there are way better choices than Vance who check the "win at all cost" box.

-Lord

If he's not unknown anymore then he shouldn't have a problem convincing Midwesterners to vote for him... After all the voted for him based on his messaging and not Pence.
Neocons struggle in the Midwest-Rust Belt states since Bush.
Vance would be fine... He'll continue the maga policies after Trump's gone.

This election would continue to be a referendum on Biden

LordAdam16:
Pence was chosen to pacify the Evangelicals.
Vance is being touted as a vote magnet in the Rust Belt.

Apples to Oranges.

-Lord

Remember Pence was was called a bad pick, an extreme christofascist.
Somewhat incompetent... that failed to contain the HIV pandemic in his state.

Let's not act like he was given an all round applause

LordAdam16:
Pence was chosen to pacify the Evangelicals.
Vance is being touted as a vote magnet in the Rust Belt.

Apples to Oranges.

-Lord

Vance was chosen as a continuity of maga populism and assassination insurance.
It goes both ways... There's always a reason

LordAdam16:
I was going to respond line by line; but I've made my main concerns clear and have gone on the record as being displeased by this pick.

Time to close ranks and pull out all the stops to return Trump to 1600 Penn Ave.

-Lord

Yeah... Don't let the Dems and their surrogates in the media bamboozle and gaslight you.
Taunt the VP nominee as the best... At least better than Kamala