happney65:


But the constitution was clear on the transfer of power which Trump told his supporters to go and "Stop the steal" Isn't it? Did they not? Did Trump not try to stop it?

If Pence had been killed that night by the mob,do you think the peaceful transfer of power would happen?

Now,that didn't happen,but with this Judgement,any baga can decide to stay in power. And we know who will want to stay in power citing "official ACTS"

May the universe spare our lives

Spewing left-wing conspiracy theories and talking points.

All these has been debunked including the fine people hoax and drink bleach nonsense.

Give it up dude

99thEnemy:

Ignoring Trump’s personality disorder??

Trump is not perfect but he's mentally sharp while Biden is on cognitive decline... Almost brain dead.

penearth:
If Trump wins America will return to WAR part. Biden has brought stability in. America with peace. But Trump I doubt!!!

Biden world peace?
You're on some dumb shit... Prolly cow dung?

stanluiz:
US supreme Court is a big disgrace!!

US is now a third world banana republic.

Trump presidency is not only a threat to America. Trump is threat to world Peace.

My prayer is for Joe Biden to be re elected. Anything else, the consequences will be severe!!

Says someone living in Nigeria

greggng:
This judgement said absolute immunity on official act . This is common sense ...The opposite is the case In situation he is not doing official act ...This is not victory for trump cos nobody is challenging his immunity when he does official duties . What really constitute official act...? This is what the court will be looking into to ascertain his culpability in the insurrection . The judgement only allow trump to buy time ...not a victory for him ..His delay tactics can only help him only if he became next president...otherwise he is doomed .

Whether delay or not they'll finally rule that past presidents has absolute immunity on official acts later at some point... And it's gonna be landmark!

99thEnemy:

Trump is almost same as Old.
The age difference is just approximately 3 years

But Biden is senile

givedemwotowoto:
He’s a threat to American democracy and shouldn’t be re-elected president. But that’s up to Americans in the end.

Last time I checked, over 80 million Americans said No to him. They didn’t vote mostly for Biden, they voted mostly against Trump.

Does Biden’s age and incoherent speeches matter this time? Yes it does, but probably not so much if his opponent is Trump. Think about it, Trump being a convicted felon didn’t matter to his supporters so why do you think Biden being old matters so much to his base if the job is getting done, and they can’t stand his opponent?

Americans elect their leaders based on how it will work best for them not based on how it will favor Africans or the rest of the world.

He'll win because Biden is a vegetable.

rowrowland:
LOBATAN ...there's no absolute democracy without an atom of autocracy. Presidents are Kings in Amelica

Same as Nigeria... Tinubu is your king

DeepSight:


Plato hated it. Alas, it's the best we have for now.

Anyone who rabidly supports Trump though, has to have their brain examined.

Especially black people who do so.

You're shortsighted

Skydivine:
This is why they should elect mentally stable individuals. People who are able to restrain from selfish acts.
This precedent shows that a sitting President can do just about anything and get away with it based on absolute immunity.

. Face your country

happney65:
"Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends.

Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today. Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law.”

“Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune.

Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune.

Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.”

“Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today.”

The justice did not end the dissent with the traditional “respectfully” language.

“With fear for our democracy, I dissent,” Sotomayor wrote. "

She's a hack... Hopefully Trump gets to replace her.

LordAdam16:


Their tears is delicious.
Ain't expending any time in a back and forth with TDS patients about the ruling.
We move.

Next up is Merchan.

-Lord

They've exhausted their Trump card... Let's see what July 11th holds.

sanpipita:
Sotomayor: "With fear for our democracy, I dissent."

Sotomayor is a joke... I can't believe Jackson is to her right.

Sotomayor's dissent looks like citations to things she heard on podcasts. An activist?

NaijaphiliaBlog:


Yes there are.

However, what RickyJesus is trying to explain is that there is a process to be followed in getting into high political office.

Nobody just comes from "nowhere" to become president or prime minister of a country (except via a coup!).

Let's take the example of Gabriel Nissim Attal de Couriss, the current Prime Minister of France.

He was born 16 March 1989.

Though only 35 years old, he has gone through the "process" of political exposure and growth, as listed below (arranged in reverse chronological order):

* Minister of National Education and Youth

* Minister of Public Action and Accounts

* Spokesperson of the Government

* Secretary of State to the Minister of National Education and Youth

* Spokesperson of La République En Marche!

* Member of the National Assembly
for Hauts-de-Seine's 10th constituency

* Member of the Vanves City Council

Trump didn't hold any political office prior to presidency.

SmartPolician:


The POTUS does practically nothing in America. Strong institutions, not presidents, run the United States. Once a president elects good heads to run the institutions, he will go to sleep. Whether a president is old or young doesn't matter.

Americans love their country and will do anything to see her succeed; a president doesn't have to bother supervising them all the time. America is not like Nigeria where everyone is loyal to the president, instead of their country. If not that America had strong institutions, that insurrection would have set that country on unquenchable fire.

No insurrection happened!

happney65:


But asking a state official to help him find votes is official acts?

Or telling his supporters to storm the Capital to "stop the steal" is official acts?

Yet again with the talking points...

raumdeuter:


The SCOTUS said Trump has immunity from official acts but not for unofficial acts

Its now left to the lower courts to clarify what is Official act and what is not official act

E.g Ordering the killing of a known terrorist like Osama, Suleimani who pose a threat to the US is an official act, ordering the killing of a business associate who you don't like is an unofficial act

This is a very simple thing, What will be the reason for Biden to order the arrest on Trump?

Let me ask you the order to kill Osama where do you think it falls under? vs the order to kill a random civilian

Everyone has an official duty and an unofficial duty. A company driver carrying business luggage for delivery vs the same driver going to party on the weekend. Which one is official and which is unofficial ??

Let me see how hard it is to differentiate between both

They truly understand these things but their hate for Trump wouldn't let them reason... It's just partisanship!
They're all coping over X(formerly Twitter) and it's glorious .

The reverse would have been the case if Obama was standing trial.

Besides politics has entered the courts as democrats initiated that during the confirmation of Robert Bork back in the 80s, Thomas' confirmation in the 90s, Alito's confirmation in 2005 and the worst of all Kavanaugh's confirmation in 2018... So they have no reason to cry foul now

This is a perfectly-timed also a delay strategy (due to the politics involved)...Thomas and Alito wouldn't love Biden or a Democrat to name their replacement as they're definitely retiring if Trump wins.

Black voters not supporting Republicans isn't a Trump issue but in contrary it's a generic issue.

Blacks has been engineered not to support any republican regardless of how bad the opposing democrat may be... They grew up being told not to vote republicans.
It's only few conservative blacks and those that immigrated from Africa that supports most of republican messaging in broader view.

John James faced Gary Peters (a white man) and still lost 90% of black support... Tim Scott(a black man) keeps getting elected in South Carolina without gaining more than 5% of black vote.

Anyone that tells you it's just Trump's rhetoric or style is a bloody liar.

raumdeuter:


What do you think about Kristi Noem or Stefanik

I don't trust Stefanik on issues but she's a strong Trump backer and would defend him at any cost... She has quite a mainstream/moderate voting record.
If Trump wants a New Yorker then Lee Zeldin is the best... He has broad appeal and had a strong conservative voting record in Congress.

Noem would be good too regardless of scandals but something seems off about her of which I can't really wrap my hands around.

Kari Lake would be bulletproof against the deepstate strikes.

LordAdam16:


Noted.

What are your views on the potential VP pick?

Gotta say I'm not enamored by the roster. The names being floated do not excite me.
There's an asterisk to every one of them.
It's either they don't add much to the ticket, they aren't dyed-in-the-wool MAGA and will turn on Trump if the opportunity presents (still reeling from the Pence backstab), or they'd even be liabilities.

I'm not a big fan of identity politics, but I'd want a woman on the ticket. Abortion is a big issue. But we've got milquetoast Tulsi, cardboard Noem, and McCain-in-stilettos Nikki. I'd take Lake or Sanders but they're not on the shortlist.
Next up are minority males. Vivek will lock in some Americans and alienate others. Tim Scott and Ben Carson are no Obama. I can't believe Rubio, Vance, Bergum are being floated. These are next-gen Pompeos, Tillersons or Mattis. They'd be the anonymous sources of his second Presidency.

I really do wish he waits until the Dem nominee situation is resolved before he drops a name.

What's your take?

-Lord

Actually I also have strong reservations concerning some of those potential picks even though I understand the logic and politics behind it but Trump has to be wise, calculative and decisive... VP don't really matter these days (check out Harris) though it helped Trump in 2016 because he's new on the political arena and needed a conservative evangelical long time republican as running mate to convince voters that he's not a limousine liberal as Ted Cruz labelled him during the primaries.

Right now I'd prefer Carson or Donalds because they'd be palatable to the broad republican base and mainstream establishment... They wouldn't turn off any sect of voters at all because you wouldn't love to be on the record opposing a black VP candidate... They'd also be solid on issues and wouldn't commit to certifying any future fraudulent elections.

Democrats and the establishment/deep state wouldn't try much to remove Trump because they know they'd be getting either Trump 2.0 in Donalds or an unpredictable Carson... They also wouldn't want the Republicans to produce the first black male VP.

Vivek is even viewed by some republicans as a snake but I think he'd be good too but some Republicans might take offense in his personality.
The reason Trump might not chose Vivek is due to his penchant/affinity to attention... Two showmen on the stage would disagree might be problematic and Vivek has his own ambitions too but he's an impeachment check on the deep state/Dems.

Doug Borgum has lots of question marks... He adds nothing extraordinary to the ticket but he balances it just like Carson would too.
But he'd seems like a globalist RINO who would suck up to China... Remember he vetoed Trans bills and gave land to Chinese communists in small state deep-red North Dakota.
I have little faith in the guy but democrats would have a hard time labelling him as a extremist.
Tim Scott is a cowering thunderbolt and quite solid but a bigger RINO than Borgum... Remember he tanked some conservative judges during Trump's presidency.

Ron DeSantis would have been the best option but he already burnt bridges with Trump and annoyed the base during his campaign... Nicki Haley is a no no... She pisses me off badly.
Lake would be a solid pick.

The best reliable conservative woman pick would be Sarah Huckabee Sanders... The best male would be Carson and Donalds (if he agrees to move from Florida).

LordAdam16:


Way I see it, the Dems need Michigan, Penn, and Wisconsin.
They get those, it's game over.
Whitmer can get all 3. The surprise would be if she didn't.

Yea, I know her declining favorability in Michigan should be considered.
But if Dems are holding their own in legislative races, I think Whitmer is the pick to beat.

On Trump, without the mail-in-ballot, voter roll, city-voting shenanigans, I think he's a formidable force hamstrung by this 24 hours news cycle that has uniquely and successfully made him into this Grinch.
I am not concerned about a match-up with the likes of Newsom or Harris. I think he dispatches those handily. Whitmer gives me the creeps because she understands Midwest politics at a fundamental level and has the win record to back it.

-Lord

Whitmer would be a formidable candidate just as Hilary would also... Remember Hillary was beating everyone in the republican field and had approval ratings in the 60s until Trump brought his aggressive campaign style.
Whitmer would be rolled in the mud immediately she jumps into the national spotlight.

American politics now is dirty and tricky... She would defeat a neocon but a nationalist/populist stands a better chance against her.

If she jumps in now it's gonna have a hard time unifying the party and composing a consensus message needed to tackle Trump but due to the contrast with their age and Trump's more baggage she has something viable to offer moderates and independents.

LordAdam16:


What do you think of Whitmer as the Dem nominee?

-Lord

If you mean now... Then the removal of Biden and bypassing of Harris may be chaotic and would alienate lots of voters especially women of color.
And it goes to contrast with what the Dems ideology.

Whitmer would have a hard time uniting the party and building a coalition NOW... It ain't so late but it's a bit late.

If Biden and Harris willingly step aside without anger then she may be able to form something... How that plays out in the general is uncertain too.

90 percent of Dems would vote for the nominee even if it's a corpse but independents can be unpredictable and a chunk of those undecided can be volatile too.
The election is gonna be about base turnout and independents.

She'd need a compelling message against someone like Trump at this time of the campaign.

Trump also isn't an easy candidate to walkover too for some reasons.

ijebosb:


Why does everything boil down to conspiracies with you Trump supporters?
Your argument is that the guy who who chose to have a round table with some Trump campaign staff is playing politics? Wasn't he plauying politics by having the round table?
Have you ever stepped foot in a black barbershop.
Either he was tricked, which he claims.
Or he wasn't and realized after the fact that he made a mistake, since Trump doesn't have black support and he risked imploding his business.

You say he has significant support, based on what?
Do you know any Black Americans outside this forum that support him?

It's not a conspiracy that Trump has increased his support from 2020... You claimed sometime this year that Trump wasn't gonna add support because he hasn't done anything but polls says otherwise.

Always read and comprehend... I never said Trump was winning the black vote but he's definitely gonna grow his support from 12% to 15-18% due to added support from young black males within 29 to 34 (mostly).

Yes Trump is unpopular within the average black community but that doesn't mean there's non voting for him ... Maybe that's why the guy has to clarified in order not to lose patronage.
He may even have been bullied by leftists... We see that a lot against Trump supporters or people that express their support for Trump in one way or the other.

The guy might still be a potential Trump voter in secrecy. We never can really tell from media paparazzi.

I'm not here to throw tantrums please!

ijebosb:
As usual, Trump's Black American outreach is nothing but smoke, mirrors and lies.

'Betrayed' Black businessman accuses Trump aides of misleading him for a campaign event




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpI0Ey98sTQ&t=2s

He's prolly compromised... Being paid to say this.... Politics of course.
Not saying Trump has overwhelming black support but he has significant support though... Better than 2020.

Austindark:
They have practically tried everything to remove Trump's name from the ballot papers. but all to no avail.
It seems the Democrats are afraid of something 🤔.
Maybe Joe bidden is not a marketable candidate.

If they remove Biden they'd be stuck with Kamala Harris and that's the problem.
Harris even though younger is seen as a creep, incompetent and radical compared to Biden.
She'd be to the left of Biden on issues and she's more unlikable.

If the Dems try to bypass her then they'll have to explain to some sects of their party why they think a colored woman can't win the presidency in America.

They're definitely cornered.

Singhabele:
For me biden won tge debate
Trump evaded questions chose to talk to things not rekated to question.
Trump asked how he will facr putin no plan just bolf face talk

He is just a bully has no plans just coming 4 revenge mission...

Biden many nor be great he is emationally ballanced than erratic trump..

You can't even type properly.
Trump was more composed and stuck to the script like a typical politician regardless of lies or not... Biden also lied but was bad at it and his rabblerousing certified people's the doubts on his capabilities and mental acuity.

AllKnowing:
So refreshing to see even the US has a long way to go, politically what with Biden mumbling nonsense and a confident Trump spewing falsehoods.

My comment in no way endorses Nigeria's Political leaders.

Both spilled falsehoods at different points but it's still the politics.
American politicians do that a lot.

happney65:


But it's obvious he has a cold that's why his voice didn't come up well. It was so obvious.

He didn't or never spoke this way at campaign grounds.

He had Never been this low in even recent interviews

When was the last time Biden granted an interview? Even to friendly press?

Trump the master troll

Sleepy Joe was wrecked
What a dumpsterfire!

Komu1048:



Many of you guys have benefitted so much from fraud that, u now see fight against it as a life threatening thing. So, pls let efcc still maintain d small sanity till our generation leaves. Den u can turn the world upside down

There's no sanity in this country. EFCC ain't one either.

raumdeuter:
Laurene how are the house races coming

The votes are still close between Kane and Omoruyi in Texas 7. 42 votes still separing them

Sorry for the late reply... Duty calls.
I can't for sure tell because I didn't follow this.

I think Trump is bringing it home... The Dems should be terrified rn.

He needs to pick Ben Carson for Veep... Don't Trust Gates paddy in Burgum.