₦airaland Forum

RodgersAkpafu:
I no fear
im just saying it's tense
Anyone wey try me
They collect

RodgersAkpafu:
I can feel the tensions on the street in my city...

All the wahala these elite are formenting for reasons best known to them
When e burst
Their eye go clear

Goke7:
Meanwhile guys I hear there will be protest in London on sep 13 and we don’t know whether it will spread nationwide so be careful out there!

This country matter don reach prayer and fasting level 😂

RodgersAkpafu:
That said

Drastic cut to legal and illegal migration can still be achieved without harming economic growth
That is the fact of the matter

But demonising productive immigrants who then get frustrated and leave the country wont bode well for the country either

Zahra29:
Lol, I literally didn't say that, but it's okay, I know you and BadEnoch live for twisting my words. You'll be alright, I hope.

I don't have to deviate, I'm simply not compelled to oblige your fatuous,negative comments. I don't go on and on about you, prodding you weeks later to "expatiate", e.g. Why you stereotyped the local man as racist. The same way you went on and on, interrogating me about my apparent Windrush heritage, not because you were genuinely interested, but because you were desperate to find an attack angle.

It's a bit obsessive tbh, try and find something else to occupy you.

ReesheesuKnack:
Australia had problems with illegal arrivals on boats.
How did the Aussies solve it?
The UK Labour Govt should use the Australian model. It worked before, it can still work for the UK.

All this talk about ‘smashing the gangs’ and 1-in-1-out is nonsense.

While in opposition, David Lammy uses EVERY single opportunity he has to cry out and advocate for SAFE LEGAL ROUTES for asylum seekers. What happened to that?

Now, most of the illegal boat arrivals come in from France, right? The UK has a consulate in France don’t they? Can the UK not open small consulate office annexes in Calais? Then the UK post their officials there. All prospective asylum seekers go to the UK-manned posts in Calais to apply for asylum. Any successful applicants are granted asylum visas and the UK facilitates their travel via Eurostar.

With this firmly established, No ‘asylum’ seeker can arrive in a boat and be expected to not be treated as an illegal.

With that firmly established, the UK now applies the Australian model. Infact, if they can’t get a 3rd country (like Rwanda), they can place huge ‘Bibby Stockholm’s’ at sea. Any dinghy arrivals are put in the Ships and taken back to their home countries, without their feet touching the ground.

The EcHR cannot accuse the UK of breaking the law, since the UK can point at the consulate/embassy annexes in Calais.

Problem solved.
Nigel no longer has a small boats argument.
Labour succeeds where the Tories failed.

Labour becomes the darling of the UK.
Everyone is happy.
Even our previous Nairaland Labour Party chairwoman will return to this thread.

Happy Days!

willyede:
Whatever you want to call it na you sa bi...Leave people to their choice

Your last 2 month posts has a lot on your mentality :
1. These are the issues they hate to hear or want a better a better a Nigeria/ Africa- 9:02pm On Jul 21
2. Youna go fix that country by force she - 10:13am On Jul 21
3. Even sending them home isn’t easy. There must be valid reason.
I laugh at all them those I’m doing it for my kids that’s why I japa 🤣-2:41pm On Jul 19
4. Youna dey see why I say make we fix Africa bah.

Time go tell -7:29pm On Jul 01
5. You no take the visa dem give you?

I will not engage you further.

Time go tell - 6:40pm On Jun 24
6. Where have I said I feel inferior?

Strawman argument + gaslighting.

You will be fine as you head to Canada. And maybe next will be USA and if it don’t suite you japa to AU.

At the end of the day you go still go back home - 5:24am On Jun 24
7. They hate to hear this but this evidence is clear.

Africans choose to live in denial rather than confront the truth in front of us. Length and breadth of Africa not a single country to look up to in development/ real change - 3:32am On Jun 22
8. Really Has slavery truly ended?

I’m glad I can spark your brain to think critically. That consciousness about your root you must learn it by force -9:03am On Jun 19
9. You no fit complain for your country na another man country you wan complain abi.
You lot think Europe is built on being peaceful. These people fought ww1 and 2 where they kill each other( same skin colour for that matter ) in the millions and it’s still going on till this day in Ukraine and Russia.
The earlier you know your place the better. If you are not happy right to your MP and I’d like to see what that will get you. They are the majority and they will always have their way. If I see that what’s going on is not what I want I go back home. simple… the country don even tire me - 2:12am On Jun 18
10. Yes it is… if them come out in mass go and debate with them that it is your country. Some of una need to learn that just because the system make it possible for you to come and enjoy the spoils of democracy doesn’t make it a right rather it’s a privilege - 1:46am On Jun 18
11. Their country their choice. Fix Africa only then you can be truly free - 12:56am On Jun 17
12. It’s funny how some of us come to this country and want to tell them how to rule their country try. Something we can’t demand in our country.
Better just take what they give you. Don’t forget you said you came here because of your kids future - 12:31am On Jun 09
13. Youna go build that Africa by fire by force - 1:49pm On May 12

willyede:
Nobody is commenting on your take but you trying to gas light folks into believing what you want them to believe is what i am standing against...As i have said i am watching out for your systematic bullying cos that is what it is....Your comment had no point in the above discussion.....One man army my foot

willyede:
I don't live for Nairaland and am sure if you look at the time i signup with Nairaland it should tell you i dont trip for likes...I have always observed your stand on this thread and as i said i am out for you anytime anyday on this thread. People are free with their stand on where they want to be and how they want to feel like without you having to induce their decision with your slave mentality syndrome....

willyede:
That is because you are like to Nation shame folks...You are always doing this. I wonder why for the often time the mods are not cautioning you on this. Yet again i draw you to the title of this thread. There were discussing the political position in the uk and boom your point was to derail the thread with "What happens to your we are world citizens. Oh now you know they have their own people".
Like from where to where....Make it make sense ......I hardly write but always prefer to read interesting conversations that bothers Nigerians in the uk. Leave people with their decisions and hug your slavery mentality in your closet alone.

willyede:
If you are intellectually bankrupt to add anything meaningful to the discussion above don't you think you shut up and let the thread flow rather than Nation shamming folks here. Are you not enjoying the intellectual conversation above from these people : Justwise, Zahra29, Goke7, Jamesclooney and Cyberknight

Goke7:
Even the Nigel making mouth will not stop any boats either, the Torries couldn’t, Labour can’t so what will Nigel do that will be different? It’s all gimmicks to win elections that’s all and when they get in power they look for the quickest or easiest vulnerable people living in the uk to pounce on. From Theresa May that’s has been the plot, international students, windrush generation, eastern europeans(Brexit), Muslims, Arabs and other minorities in the uk they can easily show power on to please their people!

Raalsalghul:
Some kind figures being called on this page dey make me feel like say I no dey serious with my life.

jedisco:

Careful what you ask for they say. You had been goading me about Cana and I deliberately avoided giving you and answer so as not to sound hauty. Now I have reposnded, you are digging a hole. Next time you summon courage to ask, you'd get more details. Eitherway, when you are ready to discuss 'building 9ja', buzz me. At least you can see no one is running from that topic as you had previously made yourself believe- you just have to be matured enough to engage folks on certain topics.

Finally, when next you come singing how you believe yourself to be inferior and expect us to believe same of ourselves, always remember what I told you- we don't all think alike.

jedisco:
Hehe.. you now have the opportunity to engage me on an issue so dear to your heart but your circling around. Later, you'd start clutching straws

You seem more focused on Canada so I'd share- Canada so far has been fab. Did hit the ground running and returned to the UK after a while to pay my allegiance to King Charley and pick up my kpali. Weather in Cana has been brill though I'm not looking forward to winter. Roads, cars and houses are spacious and gallant. Financially its been quite good and this is coming from someone who earned circa £200k in my last UK tax year. I'd give a snippet -in all my years in the UK, my bank no even sabi me. In weeks of getting to Canada, I don get 2 account officers - one perosnal and the other for my professional corp. When I have issues, I send emails and they call. Within weeks, I have access to 370k cad in funds (yes 370k). There's more.... Over 300k of that is a line of credit with quite favourable rates. I'd put in in perspective- the rates on my line of credit (LOC) are less than what I'm paying my UK bank for my buy-to-let mortgage. And that LOC is freely available to me to draw down and pay back at anytime I see fit. I was already considering a few more BTL in the UK but I say not now...let us see where the UK is headed first. I'm now waiting for the next market crash to show some luv. Nobody can accuse me of not having 300k to take risk . Of late, my bank has informed me they are willing to approve upto 1m cad for a mortgage within months of arrival. Guess what? my line of credit can be used as the deposit. Hehe... This is the definition of giving someone a wife, then going ahead to buy them bed plus a packet if viagra- no excuse not to kerewa. I'm sure, they'd next pass me on to their insurance providers to discuss options. As pastor Adeboye said, may God give us good problems. I shout Amen.

Cars wise, I no wan talk. Cars abi trucks big pass UK house (look up RAM 3500). I was in a delership recently as I was torn betwen a Lexus, a Lincoln, an Infinity or a Genesis. The way car delerships chase one reminds me of market boys in 9ja... one said he'd pick me from my house and drop me at home.... I said, young man, take am easy. Them go use call harass you. My deal was signed at 9pm - over an hour after they had officially closed. I was wondering, this wouldn't happen in the UK. Capitalism can be sweet ooo

Well that's enough for Canada. Lets focus on the UK as per the title of the thread. Why not ask what's happening in the UK make I give u update. Pensions, ISAs, BTLs e.t.c. You might also ask me to further demonstrate why you're not inferior to folks u see around u

jedisco:
Not surprising that same bloke who believes himself to be inferior to others simply by virtue of being black if the one chorusing support for Z's ideas. Historical trends always repeat.

Goodenoch:
I don't want you to leave.

I find you funny.

Zahra29:
I've never done a "woe is me" on here, even when I have been attacked. If I felt like that, I would just leave as others have done, and as is probably the fervent wish of you and some others 😂. Once again, this is not a woe is me or cry for help, just facts.

(Un)fortunately for you, I'm quite happy to remain for now, doing my civic duty countering a lot of the misinformation presented here (which is one of the main reasons I started commenting in the first place).

Zahra29:
Lol it's been this way since I started commenting in 2022. Some people are just not able to cope with anyone who has opposing views to theirs, facts that interrupt their comfortable emotions, especially when it comes from a woman.

Goodenoch:
LavidaLoca I thought you were going away to find your tribe.

Nobody wanted you àbí what happened?

ReesheesuKnack:
Anybody remember the debate last year when the (then) PM said Keir Starmer is clueless?

Anyone recall when Rishi Sunak said based on Starmer’s plans, the illegals immigrants will require BIGGER boats?

Here we are…/.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8e1xkwd74wo

Viruses:
What do you mean by she's shown the most support for her country of heritage?

The bold is summarising your post, not me saying it, you're just playing daft because you've been boxed.

It's difficult to wake up someone that's not sleeping so you know what? You win

Goodenoch:
So, let me get this straight. You rail at everyone about the need to fix Nigeria but you won’t go home till you’re 60 nor will you do anything from abroad because you want a “simple minimal life”. So all your purpose will be to laugh at Nigeria and laugh at the UK as well like you’ve been doing.

Sounds awfully like you’re one of those “can’t be nothing can’t change nothing” people you keep railing about. Ehyah.

jedisco:
Hehe. You took that personal. The issue with you is that at every turn you exude inferiority - that together with similar proclitive narratives lead no where. You wouldn't get anyone with a working brain following you down that path

Let me ask, how do you intend to build Nigeria?

I came to the UK in 2019. I remember asking on this page then if I could use some credit available to me then (and could easily repay) to get some business venture I had in 9ja going. Oddly, I got alot of shout down. When I was supported with £20k for my training, I invested most of that money in Nigeria at the expense of arguably better reasoning to buy a house in the UK (pre-covid boom). In my first 18m of being in the UK, I had invested over 40m in Nigeria. I get about 500k pcm from that today. A colleague of mine who modernised his diagnostic centre nets 1-2m in profits pcm which he continues to plough back into the Nigerian economy.

I have, still am and should continue to invest back home in 9ja as I have in the UK. The bottomline is that thinking home and building in the UK (or ones place of abode) are not mutually exclusive and if you think seeing yourself as inferior is going to get anyone worth their salt to follow you, then you have to think again.

RodgersAkpafu:
My uncles are in their 80s here and they have disowned the country since they came here in the 70s

You think it's every Nigerian who yearns to go home in old age

A retired teacher I met in his 70s is here with his West Indian wife, kids and grand kids and that baba sef don disown Nigeria

I have met quite a few and thats more than enough references to show that one can indeed sever connections to Nigeria IF THEY WANT TO

BTW have you been to Bradford
Pakis have made there their home
Even the ones of 90 years
dem still dey

RodgersAkpafu:
as per the bolded
You are on your own on that one tbvh lol

No be me and you dey go "home"
Me don disown that failure and shame of a country

willyede:
Rishi Sunak was the head boy at Winchester.

He's more comfortable in his skin, because he's interacted with the upper class who dominate the Tory Party all his life.

In contrast, if you grew up in Lagos and attended FGGC Shagamu and ISIL, you'd never quite feel you "belong"

RodgersAkpafu:
But what she is saying IS THE TRUTH
We can argue to the effect that sometimes she refers to that when she doesn't have to

But Nigeria is a failed shiithole shame of a country that is still grappling with what others have solved at least a century ago

I mean, the world knows it so why are we pretending

We can argue and say that Kemi is being an opportunist, and all, but come on, a country that over half of its populace dont have access to proper toilet sanitation and also have the HIGHEST OUT OF SCHOOL KIDS on planet earth shouldn't be acting all "bougie"

If anything, the collective shame we feel now should spur us into doing something bout it

But alas
Is it not Africans?

Zahra29:
💯
It's a bit similar to when they labelled Tiamiyu a treasonous, treacherous, traitor 😂 for speaking simple truths about the student visa Japa route. No one could really say that what he said in the interview was a lie, but the fact that he said it openly was what made him public enemy #1. As if the British public is stupid and couldn't work out for themselves what was going on.

Kemi definitely says the wrong things sometimes, but I don't see what's wrong with her recent identity comments.

When Lavida, the brave towncrier lol, urges people not to forget their home country Nigeria, he is roundly jumped on, with some claiming that the UK is now their true home, having lived here for 2/3/4 years. No whahala.

But when Kemi says that her home, heart and identity is now in Britain having lived here for 30 years (two thirds of her life), plus being married to a Brit of Scottish heritage, there is plenty whahala - she is excoriated and called self-hating, mental and "failed by her parents".

Truly hilarious
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