₦airaland Forum

Zahra29:
You've written a lot without actually saying a lot.

You're conflating 2 different things and have completely missed the point of my original post.

1. The discussion was not whether or not a British national is currently a net -ve or +ve relative to a recent migrant. Of course a Brit born and raised would be a -ve starting out. This is true of EVERY nation that invests properly in its young people. Just as you also are/were a net -ve to your home country due to your government subsidising your medical training.

2. The point, dear reader, is that it is a false claim that a recent migrant has paid more into the NHS (by paying the IHS) than his British peer. Using your example - if you came into the UK at e.g 28y/old and assuming you paid £3k IHS for an initial 3 year visa - it is ridiculous to think that this payment matches or exceeds the cumulative contributions of a 28 y/old junior doctor who has been working since he was 23

It's a very simple, obvious fact and no lengthy writeup can change this.



Erm, the bottom line is that since 2015 the government's position (including the current Labour government) is that it is reasonable for recent migrants to make some level of contribution towards the health service in order to access it in exactly the same way as nationals who have been paying in for years.

Many countries do not give newly arrived migrants comprehensive access to their health service on exactly the same terms as its citizens and residents. The only difference is the model used - most EU countries, AUS etc impose mandatory private insurance fees while the UK has chosen a flat fee model.

You should consider becoming a member of Parliament to effect the changes you desire from within. If "anchor baby" Kemi (as you love to denigrate her) can do it, so can you. Plus you already have nairaland votes to get you started.

NL votes lol

justwise:
Why not? You applied for student visa with bank statements showing that you have all the money as required, university asking for the money and you are complaining? So was that money you presented during your visa application audios/untouchable loan?

E sweet to type this kind of thing. I’m sure you are being sarcastic

abuhusna1:
How did we get here ? Asking international students to pay full tuitions

In this ai age Is it even worth paying 40 metre for masters ? Personally it’s a no brainer.

I’d like to here others perspective

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Do not opt out of your pension. It’s not worth it.

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Goodenoch:
I don’t think you comprehended what I said because this post of yours isn’t responding to it but I don’t care enough to argue the point, so you do you.

I’m just pointing to you the ripple effect of AI. You replied my post asking if kpmg is a tech company and I’m reminding you that it will not only affect tech businesses.

Viruses:
Are you a messenger of doom? Your posts are always laced with negativity. You're so persimistic about the future that you had to go dig out a post from almost two months ago to drive fear.

Try something new, be positive, you will like it trust me. There are people/companies that will see opportunities in this same issue you're worried about. If you doubt me, share this your news with any AI and ask it to create an opportunity for you to leverage, the outcome will surprise you in a way you don't imagine.

Not to drive fear but simply creating awareness.

Goodenoch:
KPMG is a tech company?

Kpmg is a tech company? Abi what’s the question you asked the other day ?

Standard chartered bank isa bet 9ja company?

You better brace up for what’s coming?

It’s coming.

Where did Kier Starmer and the Labour Party go wrong That they are losing trust of voters so rapidly.

Cyberknight:
You're most definitely having a laugh.

You want to argue with someone with hmp work experience ?

Goke7:
The honest truth is these sorts of things doesn’t help our community in any way, it was a small number of people who engaged in bringing fake dependents all in the name of student visas that made the govt curtailed students from bringing in dependents, it was cos bandits despite how small the population is that also led to the ban of overseas care workers, we can keep saying oh other nationalities are involved but like I always say it’s the innocent and diligent ones that will always bear the brunt of these issues and no matter how much we cry that the policy makers are bigots it won’t help our cause in any way!

This is incorrect. Their data indicates alot of people came in with family of 3, 4 dependant which results to locals unable to find spaces for their kids In school.

Goodenoch:
I don't think Nigerians are any more greedy than Brits or anyone else. There are always reports of one fraud or another and the vast majority aren't Nigerians. There's nothing about a couple of Nigerians doing whatever that justifies any bigotry, except for people looking for an excuse ab initio.

One thing that's often missed in these discussions is the sheer number of Nigerians, which means that in the same way we will be overrepresented in positive things (academic achievement, sports, entertainment etc.) we're likely to also form an outsized proportion of negative things as well. It's just statistics.

Rarely would you see Indians or Pakistanis tho.

Goke7:
When did you start advocating for Green Party? I thought you believed in reform and conservatives ideologies 😂

I have never advocate for reform or conser. No give me bad name on here.

Please guys vote green in the coming election. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

capitalism at its best

Lexusgs430:
Nope, but possibly the implementations of AI to conduct multiple tasks, thereby eliminating the use of many human beings....... 🤣

Abi oo

Treadway:
this was my post on Linkedin on the same topic

Tech bros in soup.
Dem say na slow down that’s another name for AI

Goke7:
😂 Issorite kindly extend the compassion to the Boris wave crew abi no be so make everywhere good!

Make Boriswavers go meet boris for their own entitlement

HustlaOfLagos:
Can it really be stopped or they'll just increase taxes again?

Things like anxiety should not even be allowed to get on benefits unless they give them a time frame... say 1 year

Humans will complain, but they will adjust and get serious

Their entitlement is on another level

Goke7:
This benefits fraud have been going on for too long in this country and looks like even folks in govt one time or the other have all been a part of it cos tell me how they all continue to turn a blind eye to it. I know there were measures in the past to address it but looks like there’s now a consensus to make it look like an helpless situation and rather put the blame somewhere else!

From the story posted here it was just a bad belle situation that got that fraud reported! Cos if the govt is serious we should gradually be seeing a number reduction in those reliant on benefits and getting back to work but no, more people are rather claiming disability or physically sick!

We are a compassionate country. We care for our elderly and support our youngsters

Goke7:
I no go anywhere na where you put me I Dey!

Be like you been block me ?

Goke7:
😂 you no lie o! 35k ain’t small money anywhere anytime!

Omo iya how far na… it been a while

erico2k2:
and you came to this conclusion because? 36K? that is less than what Nigerians put down as deposit to own thier own home i n the Uk, You guys underestimate us toomuch. chi. a civil servant I know was offered 110K as pay of on medical grounds he even rejected it, you are here talking 35k na wahhh

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To each his own. You can Literally see some people in my post. 35k na groundnut money for you but to other na money to set them up fi life.

Everybody get 35k cash sitting pretty in their in the uk until you need help. Na there story go start. Make we continue to deceive ourselves.

HustlaOfLagos:
Literally wrote Finance there too but OK sir

Claude can write and read cobol code.

HustlaOfLagos:
The money is a lot for visa app purposes and does not make sense but 35M won't do much again in present day Nigeria if you want to have a quality of life similar to the one you have here.. You will be lucky to get a decent house in a good area in Lagos for that price.. even land in Ogun state is getting pretty expensive now .. Maybe places that are not so developed sha...

Also.. lots of people have that money, don't sleep on bicycle o.. Was looking at someone's profile on the tech nation forum and he earns £321K yearly and was given $5m equity or so in this same UK. Finance bros also earn lots of money, Nigerians like you and me

Ji, Masun!

Tech this tech that. Nor be everybody go do tech bro.

Recently Claude ai has been proven to automate most of tech jobs. However people de make money but the % is super low.

HustlaOfLagos:
I remember saying how crazy these fees are some time ago and they are increasing it again

It costs $645 CAD for citizenship application in Canada fgs, that's about £355 and minors are about £55. £3,200 for ILR is madness too when you consider a family of 4 and I know a family of 6

I think I will create a comparison table for UK, US, Canada, Australia & maybe Germany sef later in the day

£3200 * 6 =£19,200.00
£19200 * 1860 =£35,712,000.00

I bet 80% of Nigerians in the uk don’t have this in their bank account. If some even have this in cash I’m sure they will book the next flight and bid the uk bye bye.

HustlaOfLagos:
This is not true sha o

I registered in 2007 and was already active in 2005 when the main section that was popping was Music and Radio & there was still NairaList which I think was more active than NL at the time. I remember I signed up using the laptop attached and multilinks internet

I imagine internet in the UK must have been better cos I remember my friend who came to UK in 2005/2006 used to try to Skype with me then

Good old days...

All bants

OG Waheedee 🫡

HustlaOfLagos:
LOL When you see oyinbo praising you and your jollof, when you see them rolling out the red carpet for you so you and your illiterate supporters can brag about being the first one to receive that as a Naija President, just know they are whinning you and about to fleece you.

It was obvious to the blind that the deal will not favor Nigeria in any way or form but we love optics more than sense but I guess they need headlines to tout as achievement for their useless election next year

Proceeds from the loan will be looted by corrupt politicians and siphoned back to the uk. Leaving coming generations of Nigerian to forever be indebted to the uk while the uk use the moneys to develop their country. It’s a win win for oyibo.

HustlaOfLagos:
Omo, una plenty wey don tey for this country oo

Early movers alias old takers

End to end encryption my black ass

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HustlaOfLagos:


No wonder they have been unable to solve the boat stuff

They don't think things through & think of consequences or bypasses after .. Abi what kind of mumu solution is that one they have offered lol

The proper solution will be to place time limits on benefits so if you do not find jobs after a certain period, you are on your own. I think the US does that

This is youkay we are a very compassionate people.