₦airaland Forum

justwise:
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...that you lied?

You lack sense of humour.

missjekyll:
Mods delete posts that break Nairaland rules. If you find that your posts are getting deleted regularly ,you may want to have another read of the rules and keep to them.

He is bias. I go soon leave this nairaland or youna

Godsknight:
Hello house , I have Bsc in Business Administration with 2.1, two masters degree , one in Operations mananagement (Nigeria) , another in Logistics and supply chain management from UK . I have GRE score of 330 . I have applied to four universities for PhD in supply chain and operations management. The four schoools are: uni of Missouri St Louis , uni of Wisconsin, Purdue university , University of Tennesse , knoville . I need your suggestion on more good schools with high acceptance rate to apply to . Thank you

Kindly check your inbox.

justwise:
Yes mod can edit posts, personally only when personal details are exposed, fraudulent materials are included or the individual is advertising stuff

Several of my post have been deleted with no explanations and I find that bizarre and like a tyrant behaviour. And you that thing where you go out and dig out people old post you need to stop it. I don’t know what you are trying to prove.

Question: I had a buddy of mine pay for Udemy course from Naija for me upon login in I can’t access the course from here in the uk. Is it just me or e don cast?

missjekyll:
Kids? How old are we talking? Please provide evidence.
Anecdotal evidence does not count.Thank you

I know who you are

missjekyll:
Till then. No the UK does not copy from the US. Thank God. We copy from the EU thankfully.

If you love the US so much, why not go there? Say bye bye to worker protections, paid leave, universal healthcare etc.
If you like all those things ,then you have to accept LGBTQ. It all stems from the same place.

Ehen

Are you saying to us that you are in support of them transitioning kids?

missjekyll:
No ,you should grow up with him.
You now reside in the UK and it's zero tolerance for Homophobia .

LGBTQ people have as much of a right to exist as you. Leave people alone,abeg.

There are 2 sexes Male and female. It’s already taken effect in America and you know uk copy’s from America so, it’s coming home soon.

missjekyll:
This is opensource.
Anybody with the knowhow can check it on the Internet.
OpenAI code is not open source.

I m hoping that smarter Nigerians than I are already researching how to make money off the thing.
I m sure Indians have already gone to town.
Who knows who hacked deepseek over the weekend? Probably Russia. They never ask politely,always hack hack hack. They did it to the covid vaccine, here they are again with AI

Intellectual property shouldn’t be free. All open ai is doing monetisation of that knowledge.

If us had not shared Gods love ( secret ingredient) I bet the Chinese would not be a competitor.

missjekyll:
The link i posted is an indepth deep dive into deepseek.

Pros , it's cheap and does not need a lot of computing power so doesn't use a lot of energy so climate friendly.

Con: it is CCP friendly and censors "uncomfortable " truths about China. Much like tiktok

I m very happy about this although I lost money. It means the UK can afford some of that AI it so desperately needs without shelling out trillions for it. Money no dey

Still MadeinChina they are known to produce bogus tech stolen from the west. Not that im in support of the west in any way. Competition is essential to drive innovation.

missjekyll:
How rude. Your attitude is best suited to Nigeria. This is hate speech in the UK. Know it now.

oh grow up for once

jedisco:
High wage, low tax economy. Hehe
They fall mugu by blaming migrants - we are the par*sites eating their cake. In the words of Nigel Farage- 'It's simple, just stop people coming to this country'.

My favourite speak now is pointing out that the productivity of the nation has stalled but expectation hasn't i.e the nation is too poor to afford certain luxuries the populace demands.
I remember telling one that if he thinks my owning a house is the reason why he doesn't have one, I have good news for him- the developers on my estate are still selling houses.

Benefit money him wan use do down payment 🤣

jedisco:
We know androgens have a developmental and performance role and not all developmental characteristics can be reversed. At what point did they start being low? What is a top female boxers chance against AJ is he hormonally transitions today? I'd place all bets that he'd still beat the sh*t out of her. Like with many things, I think this has gone full circle.

Gender treatment especially for minors in the NHS is a sh*t show. Wait times span several years. Private clinics which may be quick to initiate treatment are quick to dump it back on the NHS- sometimes parents pulling out for cost reasons.
People did have and increasingly sought treatment below 18 - hence the recent Cass review which raised certain startling questions prompting many clinicians to have a rethink. We don't just know the longterm effect of puberty blockers. Its now widely thought that puberty hormones do not just affect the development of physical features but also certain mental faculties. What's the longterm effect on a persons cognition if those are used during a phase of rapid development?

These people are delusional that’s the truth. A woman was saying her 3 years old son keeps telling her that he is a girl and he keeps choosing girl clothing hence the sole reason she allow the poor boy to be placed on puberty blocker.

Solumtoya:
So this page is still full of American Political Arguments??!!

I wonder when it will return to conversations around "Life in the UK". Or another thread should be created for UK Immigrants?

I keep saying that this thread helped me when I came but it will be a difficult read for new Immigrants now since it's littered with Political arguments and hardly any useful talk a new Immigrant.

2 things can coexist.

jedisco:
We are not subhumans. - No human is.

China was like Nigeria few decades ago after suffering humiliation in the hands of the British for centuries. They were able to turn things around in record time.

Development comes in phases and cycles. If we do the right thing, we'd be at the top. We can start by stopping this self-denegration as it ultimately affects your esteem and how you interract with the wider world.

Semantics

justwise:
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Asking for a friend

jedisco:
'Poor and lowly people from poor and lowly nations'. We can also add 'brown and black nations'

The words some of us use to describe ourselves ehn...
Is American citizenship only for 'rich and highly' prople?
Why was citizenship by birth introduced in the first place?


If a racist out there calls us subhumans, many will repeat same. We can argue for or against policies without denigrating ourselves.

Why won’t they want to call you subhumans. I mean look at your continent and your rulers.

Chinese command respect oversea because of how their government capabilities.

justwise:
These are ordinary Nigerians https://www.nairaland.com/4250945/give-birth-usa-cost-procedures paying out of pocket to give birth in USA, politicians and elite have the right to do whatever they want with their money, the same way you decided to pay thousands of £££ to come to the UK to study rather than spending a fraction of that money to study in Nigeria

United States wouldn’t be so enticing if the foundational fathers refuse to make it attractive. Would it ?

And what ordinary Nigerian are spending their entire savings to give birth overseas?

To be clear, I didn’t come here to study I was born here

Goke7:
we have said here and over again that Nigeria and Africans are never and will never be the highest beneficiaries of immigration all over the world, the Latinos are the greatest beneficiaries of birth citizenship in America so bro always cool down with this rhetoric cos it does not add up. Africans are still the ones staying put in their continent compared to others. Even in Canada, no African country is even in the top 5 of asylum seekers or any immigration route there.

You see how you shift the goal post and refuse to talk about fixing our healthcare system. Hand go touch everybody.

Goke7:
Many big organizations already abolishing DEI

https://buildremote.co/companies/ending-dei/

Yes DEI must DIE. There is not diversity in China yet, they are doing so well. Maybe country’s should start developing their nations rather than wanting to be included and identified in another country.

missjekyll:
Dumbo's executive orders
1. Ending birthright citizenship
2. Leave WHO
3. Leave Paris Agreement
4. Say there are only 2 genders
5. Immediately end all DEI programs
6. End working from home.
7. Pardon insurrectionists

Literally everything he said he would do.

However, us lawyers are hooting with laughter because the EO are riddled with typos and faulty lawyering . Also obviously written with AI.

Seriously he thinks he can stop birthright citizenship with an executive order. Smh

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/20/tump-executive-orders-list?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

(Can anybody access this link or is it behind a pay wall? Let me know if you can't access it)

There are 2 gender male and female. Prove me wrong

missjekyll:
On the contrary ,sir, I will face whatever and wherever I so choose. Don't you ever try to tell me what issues I should champion. Thank you

This our fight na till eternity 🤣

Godsknight:
Hello house , I have Bsc in Business Administration with 2.1, two masters degree , one in Operations mananagement (Nigeria) , another in Logistics and supply chain management from UK . I have GRE score of 330 . I have applied to four universities for PhD in supply chain and operations management. The four schoools are: uni of Missouri St Louis , uni of Wisconsin, Purdue university , University of Tennesse , knoville . I need your suggestion on more good schools with high acceptance rate to apply to . Thank you

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missjekyll:
Dumbo's executive orders
1. Ending birthright citizenship
2. Leave WHO
3. Leave Paris Agreement
4. Say there are only 2 genders
5. Immediately end all DEI programs
6. End working from home.
7. Pardon insurrectionists

Literally everything he said he would do.

However, us lawyers are hooting with laughter because the EO are riddled with typos and faulty lawyering . Also obviously written with AI.

Seriously he thinks he can stop birthright citizenship with an executive order. Smh

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/20/tump-executive-orders-list?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

(Can anybody access this link or is it behind a pay wall? Let me know if you can't access it)

Better face your uk issues.

Poanan:
How do you mean people abused the citizeship by birth? All I see in your response to missjekyII is a personal beef you have for those who thought it wise to get citizenship for their babies in the U.S. It is not their fault they can afford it.

Yes, Trump wants to end citizenship by birth through an executive order. Anything is possible in today's world. However, can this be done through an executive order? This is something that is in the constitution and will need an amendment.

Amending a constitution cannot be done in one week. Let's see how the week unfolds.

Give me one reason why Nigerian politicians and elite refuse to give birth to their children in Nigeria.

Maybe with this order they will quit being greedy and begin to fix the dilapidated healthcare system in Nigeria or they will find another safe haven that offers citizenship by birth.

Chukwuka16:
Money rules the world: money is what will change our course with strategic positioning

Almost nothing material is needed for a happy life, for he who has understood existence - Marcus Aurelius.

What a time to be alive. I have acquaintances who have been unable to secure visas to the US and Canada even with their PhD’s and work employment. They live in the same Nigeria as Portable (Habeeb Okikiola Badmus). While Portable has been able to visit the UK, UAE, Turkey, the US and Canada, my erudite acquaintances with degrees, employment, and scholastic achievements have been denied such access.

I come in peace.

I have begun my musings this morning to set the stage for what may be considered polemic or mad rantings. When Marcus Aurelius pontificated his philosophy, he was in an age where knowledge was golden. Being knowledgeable was enough to deliver you from a lifetime of servitude. Society was structured as a feudal system. Labour was not a commodity that could be easily sold except in specific instances. You mostly lived as a serf rewarding your landlord with a significant portion of your harvests. We are unfortunately back to such today. You literally have no service for which you pay one off lifetime fees. I remember when software was bought and paid for one-time with updates provided as complementary for life. Today, you pay for everything for life – SAAS. You rent outlook services from Microsoft, you rent Netflix and Amazon and Apple, you rent your mobile service and broadband service, you rent your right to buy/rent a space in a community (council tax), you rent your ability to watch the news (TV licence), you rent your right to live in a country and be rewarded for your labour (taxes and NI), you rent electricity, you rent water, you rent the right to drive a car (taxes and insurance), you are practically spending a significant part of your income renting monthly – the so-called techno feudalism.

We are even incentivised to work harder (on the farmlands) to ensure we can continue to reward our feudal lords (Amazon, Netflix, Microsoft, Apple, internet and broadband service providers, the government, insurance firms, energy firms, water companies, etc.) through credit scores. I now firmly believe that this world is a simulation, and we are all in a matrix. I mean we have moved from feudalism to capitalism and back to (techno)feudalism. How did we not see it coming? Suddenly, a TV is an empty box without internet. Even the government that is supposed to be an arbiter is scheming new ways of extracting more rent from us.

The emerging economic system is funny but very troubling. In today’s world, knowledge is now a commodity that is traded in the market. Knowledge is no longer the thread that holds the fabric of society together. It is something that can be bartered! I can exchange my corn harvest for your knowledge. If you doubt this ask Wole Soyinka. It is this reason Portable can be recognised and given the privilege to travel overseas while my knowledgeable acquaintances are denied such opportunities. Portable has been able to setup an ecosystem that allows him extract rent from his “craziness” and “music”. When you stream his music online, he gets paid something. When you attend his shows, he gets paid something. When ads are placed on his music online and watched by you and me, he gets paid something. It is this relevance of his that companies see and pay him to advertise their products to convince you and I to patronise them. My acquaintances with all the degrees still depend on a landlord to give them land to ply their trade while Portable is buying “lands” and hiring knowledgeable folks to develop them while extracting rent via his ecosystem.

This is why I have so much respect for folks who ply their trades on OF. They understand the evolution of the world’s economy and human needs and have setup an ecosystem to extract rent from you (not me). I do not support the depravity of OF but I must commend intelligence at work. No embassy will see Portable as a potential absconder because they see his ecosystem and the rent he extracts. They know he has money and has strategically positioned himself to be a landlord. They respect this and give him his visa. His next US visa renewal I guess will be via drop box. My educated acquaintances will continue to languish back in Nigeria because they lack this understanding. With his money, Portable can be anything. He can run for LGA chairman tomorrow and win it. You think I am lying – ask Seyi Tinubu.

Back in the diaspora, I laugh. There was a time everyone was a data analyst. Later everyone became a business analyst. Later it was cybersecurity. Today it is project management and AI. I have seen some people’s names online, and I am like wtf. BSc, MSc, MA, PGcert, PMP, Scrum, BA, CISS, CISP, MMM, YYY… We can’t continue like this. Certifications are important but first things first, we need an ecosystem. If our investments in such qualifications are to enhance our ecosystem and build resilience, then that is worthwhile. But to polish up ourselves to be better slaves in other people’s ecosystems is unsustainable in the long-term. When such roles are no longer available, what do we revert to?

We can be like Portable. Let me extract some advice for us from his song Apostle.

Members donated bulletproof car for the pastor
And the same pastor got attack by who
By unknown gunmen
Security wey dey guide pastor o
Dem no get bulletproof car
Members wey dey follow pastor o
Dem no get bulletproof car
Only pastor and family
Dem dey use bulletproof car

Bulletproof car saved the pastor
Not the miracles

The lesson is to have our own bulletproof car. While we are working in the ecosystem of others and donating our all to them, we should remember that one day, unknown gunmen will come and if we don’t have bulletproof car, na die be that o.

We must start being strategic. Society will never value us if we have no value. I laughed hard when I saw that report from the migration advisory committee (MAC) that claimed that immigrants contributed 20x more than natives and Nigerians were on a rampage. Nothing is as fraudulent as statistics. Let me elucidate. According to MAC, “… skilled migrants on work visas contribute approximately £16,300 in net fiscal impact (tax receipts), which is 20 times higher than the £800 contributed by UK-born adults.” The implication of this statement is quite dire. First, it establishes the fact that UK’s immigration policy is set to strangulate and impoverish immigrants. No be who pay more tax get money pass, ask Donald Trump and Warren Buffet. There is a reason for IR35 formulation and revision. Second, it evidences the fact that UK natives are vast and adept in the art of tax avoidance (and even evasion) which is a privilege that immigrants cannot have for at least 5 years. The fact that Nigerians were excited about the findings of MAC was also troubling because it made me realise that we were more interested in comparing di*k sizes than even building wealth.

We cannot achieve Marcus Aurelius’ vision if we do not have wealth as a collective. Wealth doesn't matter anymore when we have it in abundance. The pockets of rich Nigerian immigrants do not skew the statistics. We need to realise that starting now is even late, but we just must start. We are a very knowledgeable people. Why should we barter that all our lives for corn. If Portable can be smart in setting up an ecosystem to extract rent for himself, why can’t we do the same? You work in the NHS, what stops you from identifying problems there and working with a team of like-minded people to develop something to address that problem and commercialise it if it works? You work in finance, what stops you from identifying a pain point, assembling a team of like-minded people and attempting to solve that issue with commercialisation as the end goal. It is not rocket science, we just have to do it. The world has changed but we can ensure some level of resilience if we start today. The goal is to build an ecosystem that helps us generate wealth that enables us to push our values and ideals to the level of national discourse. The goal is preservation of our kind, ensuring that they have options and choices tomorrow, thus guaranteeing their place at the table of decision-making.

Interesting. Are you thesame guy that recommend capitalism without capital book? If yes. How about setting up a WhatsApp group ?

SPDAZZY:
It's 12500 for me

See another for London to New York

How much does one need to spend to get 12500 worth of Avios ?

Zahra29:
Facts.

According to latest polls, Reform is already within touching distance of Labour. Not great news for Labour, less than 1 year from the GE. This year's local elections should be interesting. And it appears that the UK is moving into a 3-party system for the first time ever.

I don’t believe in polls anymore.

Lexusgs430:
Or go extreme and vote Farage and his gangsters into power...... 😂🤣

Reform has no ideology or long term plans. Majority of them are racist.

Lexusgs430:
This is just the beninging...... 😂🤣

I talked about implosion and infighting, before they got into power........

KS would also face his fire, quote me..... 😂🔥

I no kuku vote that day. I pick shift like beans 🫘 🤣

jedisco:
Didn't take long. Telegraph is already arguing against ILR for our great british care workers. When they were used to subsidize care costs, they didn't know they were 'low-skilled'. Now its time to become citizens, they don remember their skill... lol
Interesting how these folks advocate a UAE-esque system when it suits but when it doesn't, accuse those folks of human right abuses. If its a mistake, why is the visa pathway still open? Well, I'm happy Keir is overseeing the return of migration numbers to 'normalcy'

Over the next two years, many of those who arrived since 2021 will become eligible for indefinite leave to remain. Once this is granted, no matter how expensive they may turn out to be, they can stay. The priority for the Government should be preventing this from happening – extending the time taken for eligibility, imposing fiscal contribution thresholds and, in the longer term, shifting towards a guest worker model for short-term, low-wage work. The alternative is too costly to contemplate.

That conversation of building and getting Africa working that you all don’t want to have will one way or the other come to hunt us. “Let me mind my African business”