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missjekyll:
She just resigned. Corrupt corruption minister. Ridiculous

2 minister so far have resigned. Maybe Labour is filled with bad eggs after all

missjekyll:
Of course. Unlike the H1-B visa which allows companies to hire overseas workers and underpay them.

We don't do that poo over here. What you get is what everyone gets. Of course you pay some additional fees such as the ihs surcharge but it's the same salary.

US news is highly depressing at the minute. Tuning them out...

Same should be replicated towards Nigerian looters who steal money and buy houses in the uk

missjekyll:
Of course. Unlike the H1-B visa which allows companies to hire overseas workers and underpay them.

We don't do that poo over here. What you get is what everyone gets. Of course you pay some additional fees such as the ihs surcharge but it's the same salary.

US news is highly depressing at the minute. Tuning them out...

Plus we have free nhs unlike Americans who have to pay thousands for blood test. Everywhere has their pro and cons. Tough times ahead.

Cyberknight:
New foreign experts to be blamed for the UK's self-inflicted domestic problems, you mean.

I hope they pay the experts like the Americans. If they want them to come.

NIUK people just dey press peeps doing care neck.

directonpc:
I always find your contributions here on point, including this one.
Though I've had negative experiences with people of Indian origin in professional dealings and the ones that ripped my partner off at her student accommodation, I can't say people like Sundar became the CEO of Google only by cheating the system.

I'm also learning personally that as a minority, do more than see challenges and complain. I've worked in teams where I'm the only person of color and managed to thrive by just focusing on doing my best job. You'll very likely get your respect for being competent and hard to replace.

If i begin to narrate the things those people have done ehn.
I will just let it slide, because black people will rather take sides against their own just to look good in the eyes of other race.

Its a dna thing. That's one of the reason or our predicaments.

missjekyll:
I beg to disagree. It's not your African business,it's your personal rather bigoted business.

I am happy you are getting a lot of pushback on this thread and I hope you will have a rethink.

I feel I have to remind you that the use of slurs is not only wrong but is also illegal.
That slur you used the other day ,if anyone ever said that to me in person, I ll be on skates to HR no matter if it's my village person.

Zero tolerance for bigotry

If anyone is a bigot on this forum you are topping that list. Don’t you ever engage my post and I will do thesame.

missjekyll:
I beg to disagree. It's not your African business,it's your personal rather bigoted business.

I am happy you are getting a lot of pushback on this thread and I hope you will have a rethink.

I feel I have to remind you that the use of slurs is not only wrong but is also illegal.
That slur you used the other day ,if anyone ever said that to me in person, I ll be on skates to HR no matter if it's my village person.

Zero tolerance for bigotry

You will be fine you and your HR.

You all want to be white so bad.

When it comes to issue of fixing Africa you are lethargic but when it comes to other race, na there una dey get irate. Lord lugard is correct when it comes to folks like you. Don’t worry you will be reminded who you are. Na just time. Ire oo

[quote author=jedisco post=133654179]Racial stereotypes are almost always wrong.

First, regarding the state of India, it's worth remembering that civilisations come and go. Before the current European period, several empires and civilisations have been top of the ladder at different times in human history. India has a rich history and suffered greatly as western nations extracted resources - I dont see what 'manipulation' surpasses that. China, Indonesia, Singapore, UAE e.t.c has shown that building a modern economy is not an inate characteristic of a certain race. The current rise of China has not been seen in human history. Furthermore, as the indian economy is rapidly on the rise, if the maintain current progress, they'd be at the top in no time.


That you push the narrative that Indians are innately bad surprises me. I've done well for myself in the UK and respect high performers. I have seen extremely bright Indians who worked their way to the top through grit. They being overrepresented in higher earning roles is because they worked doubly hard and built a network. They endured the racism, put in the hardwork that others didn't and rose to the top. There are mediocre ones and bad eggs but thats the case with every race.

Let me ask, what has been your personal experience with Indians [/quote

I don mind my African business.

Zahra29:
Lol, I don't disagree and India is certainly not a country I'd choose to live in or even visit....however, the facts are the facts whether we like them or not.

Many might be leaving but there are also many who are earning a very good income in India working for international organisations that are increasingly moving large parts of their back office and technical operations there to save costs.

India's space programme is unnecessary imo and I think they're only doing it for bragging rights, however - it is a major economic and technological feat. Even the UK and EU countries do not national space programmes. (The EU has Galileo but it's not really the same).

Open defecation, (eww), is not nationwide I presume. Every country has its good and bad spots and India is a relatively popular tourist destination - Taj Mahal etc..plus many western companies have offices in India - Pune, Bangalore, Hyderabad etc

Even Trudeau had to back down from their diplomatic row when India started taking action against Canada.

So yeh, India has definitely moved up several levels.

Let me kukuma mind my African business 🤣

Zahra29:
In fairness to India, they have done extremely well in rebranding themselves from a 3rd world country and positioning themselves as one of the BRICs. India now commands respect and representation on the world stage in politics, science and technology and business. Many top tier global organisations are expanding their offshore operations in India, and India is ramping up its space programme which has already achieved some feats, to mention a few areas.

It's not ethnic prejudice to label Nigeria a 3rd world/developing country. Also the likes of Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan which are neighbours to India, but worlds apart.

Launching space programme when their people can’t afford clean water, does open defecation is unwise.

If they are so smart why are they all running out of their country.

jedisco:
Hmm.. Indians have done well for themselves in the West. I only hope they can also achieve good development back home.
If Nigerians had similar attainment to them in the West, we'd be receiving more hate.

It's important not to follow media narratives to belittle hard working, high-attaininig folks just because of ethnic prejudices. Else, we'd next be calling ourselves third worlders.

They are not special or hardworking they just have ways of manipulating any system.

missjekyll:
Tax the rich.
When people get stratospherically wealthy, they unfailingly become villains.


Look at the sort of unhinged person the US has handed power to. They created this monster and all of us are suffering for it.

Capitalism is a disease.

Goke7:
Stop ke! When he’s just starting

He is a thug at this moment.

Elon is going mad and needs to stopped.

rock86:
I'm bored

Go to the gym.

missjekyll:
But this is a slur,now...why call people that?
And why stereotype people ?
You wouldn't be happy reading this about Nigerians in an Indian forum now,would you?

I know some lovely Indian people and we get along like a house on fire. Try some Indian friends. You ll be amazed.

No thank you.

hammed71:
even for YouTube sef dem go use English do their thumbnail for views but when you click na Hindi dem go use speak lol

When we use Turnintin check coursework similarities, we go dey see 20% but when these guys run their own dem dey get 0% similarities. If you ask dem to tell you how dem dey run am dem no go ever show you. Na there my beef for them start.

Goke7:
You hit the nail on the head bruv, even in Canada now they are feeling the heat as all the latest immigration measures are actually targeted at them. Truth be said they’ve always gotten away with so much until now even the h1b stuff is all about them as they always make up over 70% of h1b recipients yearly.

Pajeets are having it hot 🤣. I never like them because they behave like they are superior to black people. They should use their said knowledge to get rid of all the poop in their country. Even the h1b they are getting is through dubious means. They have mastered the art of gaming whatever system the find themselves. Plus they are also secretive, dem no dey drop updates 🤣

missjekyll:
Well there won't be "maximum profit " on these particular houses as they will be affordable. Labour is not going to take on Nimbys for you to now come and gather excessive profits. Nope.

As to your second paragraph, shelter is a basic human need . It doesn't matter whether they are on benefits or not? If they do not have any savings and therefore qualify for benefits, the state will then owe them housing. It's a right .

What was the question again?
It appears you know of a benefit fraudster? Why not tip off the Dept of works and pension like a good citizen instead of sort of stewing about it?

That's what I would do.

At the end of the day it will cost the government more.
This will need to more borrowing at the end of the day. Don’t forget we have 20 billy black hole. That’s my point.

missjekyll:
I have answered you. The government revamps planning regulations which doesn't require funds,building companies stump up the cash and build the houses.

Everybody wins except the nimbies

When Private equity companies build these houses they will want maximum profit, which means high cost to rent or buy.

Where are those on benefit those not willing to work going to get the funds to pay rents or mortgage down payment.

jedisco:
Na that replacement theory dey tire them.


We are just living our lives. No one is looking to replicate the replacement of indigenous folks as was the case in Australia e.t.c.

The story of man is that of migration. Change is also inevitable.

Fertility rates and economic productivity is dropping. Yet folls want increasingly more freebies (undersandable) without taxing the very rich. Wish them luck in solving this trilema.

I can only hope Africa begins to flourish just like China did so that most of our resources taken as dearth cheap prices to fund western opulence can have value added to them and be priced correctly.

As for Africa and Nigeria if we continue this way sooner they will colonise us again and I bet you we don’t have the resources to stop them. France has just been given licence to mine natural resources in zamfara abi na katsina. Wake up African sheeples.

jedisco:
On a final note, it's quite funny how quickly things went full circle. Elon wants numbers increased, Vivek wants wider national quotas eliminated. Its clear where this is headed and MAGAs knowing their capitalists well are having none of it.

They said is they want to increase it to 0.1 % of 'top talent'. What percentage is it now- 0.001?

Same Twitter/X and co that have laid off thousands of 'top-talent' workers

I also gather some of that 'top engineering talent' worked in Trumps properties - perhaps as a tech bros

The good thing is North America favoure family migration with citizenship by birth. Can wait for top 0.1% of engineers, farmers, carers and even hookup staff to arrive. I wish Elon well in this fight

Third worlders especially Indians should be placed on visa ban to the west at least for a short time. They are the highest immigrant everywhere Canada, us, uk, Australia. fgs they have their country why can’t they develop and make it enticing last time I check they are the 5th largest economy.

missjekyll:
There is still a black hole but the government is not building these houses directly.

The government is making it easier for building companies by setting mandatory targets for counties,they have targeted areas with very high housing demand and thus higher house prices(these newbuilds will be more affordable and energy efficient), rewriting the planning laws to circumvent nimbies ( Not in my backyard people) who usually oppose building for often selfish nonsensical reasons.

These companies will employ a lot of staff and buy materials for these. The staff ll spend their salaries paying tax as they do, tax ll be paid on the materials and services. Voila ,growth!

I m just perking up my ears for the increase in visas for builders. I have a couple of able-bodied relatives in Nigeria who ll be delighted to help.

You did not answer my question.

How will they fund building of 1.5 million homes?
Another loan or increase tax ?

missjekyll:
"Mass immigration" what does that even mean?
780k in year just gone but still oodles of vacancies everywhere.
Who will build 300k houses per year? Run theatres pretty much 7 days a week to clear backlog?

Even if everybody out of work today were to train as builders and hospital staff,it ll take a few years to train them up? Who will do the jobs in the meantime? People from overseas !

I m off to fan the flames of the maga civil war.
I want it to sink in well well. We need the heck out of immigrants. Plans need people to carry them out

White folks are thesame in uk and America. You don’t want to work, your government brought in people that wants to do the work, you still dey complain say de want to replace you. Has anyone got a link to the great replacement paper they keep hollering about?

Goodenoch:
I’m sure she is too. It doesn’t matter though. She eventually will, sooner or later.

Vivek and co participated in the denigration of migrants in the name of “objectivity” and “speaking hard truths”, thinking their own status would protect them.

Now it’s objectively clear that it won’t because the arguments about economics and whatnot were never the real issue driving anti-immigration movement (one guess as to what it was 😄), and what they took for allyship with the MAGA crowd was actually just them being tolerated and used.

The hard truth is that no matter how highly skilled you are, when the chips are down and immigrants are being attacked, physically in England or digitally on Twitter, you’ll be lumped in with the “bum-wipers” and “low skilled” people.

The hilarious thing for me is thinking about how Vivek and co must feel, knowing they cannot complain and call the abuse they are receiving for what it is because they’ve pushed the narrative that anyone who ho calls racism out is “woke”. Imagine seeing like Laura Looney that they were out campaigning with just a few weeks ago saying those things about him and his country (because according to MAGAs India is his real country despite being a US citizen by birth).

That’s why I keep advocating for us to join force and revive Nigeria and Africa. Even with your ILR you will be summed up with the rest of your kind.

jedisco:
Another banger!

Starmer should listen to those who'd build his 1.5m houses - they need more workers

It's easy to compare and contrast migration policy across the west and also guestimate where one nation could be headed by looking at others.
Canada aimed to build several million homes by 2030 and had to open a special draw for tradesmen. Is UK looking to follow suit?

https://archive.is/1YFCj
https://archive.is/ERUud

How are labour going to raise capital to build these houses, don’t we have 20 billion black hole anymore?

How long can an indefinite leave to remain visa holder stay outside of the uk for ?

jedisco:
Who is witnessing the fistcuffs between the MAGA and DOGE crew?

MAGAs can't believe that so soon after an election, pillars of Trumps win are advocating for migration. Of couse, na small small e dey start. I love capitalism

https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1872312139945234507?t=qNvpzVFele9NMm3CLhrT8A&s=19

P.S.
MAGA = traditional Trump supporters i.e far right
DOGE = Department of Government efficiency led by Vivek + Musk i.e Tech Bros

Vivek and Musk are just social media politicians like their counterpart Farage. No real policy just sensation and emotions.

descarado:
Speak for myself that NHS will go into full privatisation or not?
What has that got to do with me?

we no dey quarrel. NHS wont and will never be privatized. Not now not ever.