₦airaland Forum

Goke7:
we have said here and over again that Nigeria and Africans are never and will never be the highest beneficiaries of immigration all over the world, the Latinos are the greatest beneficiaries of birth citizenship in America so bro always cool down with this rhetoric cos it does not add up. Africans are still the ones staying put in their continent compared to others. Even in Canada, no African country is even in the top 5 of asylum seekers or any immigration route there.

You see how you shift the goal post and refuse to talk about fixing our healthcare system. Hand go touch everybody.

Goke7:
Many big organizations already abolishing DEI

https://buildremote.co/companies/ending-dei/

Yes DEI must DIE. There is not diversity in China yet, they are doing so well. Maybe country’s should start developing their nations rather than wanting to be included and identified in another country.

missjekyll:
Dumbo's executive orders
1. Ending birthright citizenship
2. Leave WHO
3. Leave Paris Agreement
4. Say there are only 2 genders
5. Immediately end all DEI programs
6. End working from home.
7. Pardon insurrectionists

Literally everything he said he would do.

However, us lawyers are hooting with laughter because the EO are riddled with typos and faulty lawyering . Also obviously written with AI.

Seriously he thinks he can stop birthright citizenship with an executive order. Smh

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/20/tump-executive-orders-list?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

(Can anybody access this link or is it behind a pay wall? Let me know if you can't access it)

There are 2 gender male and female. Prove me wrong

missjekyll:
On the contrary ,sir, I will face whatever and wherever I so choose. Don't you ever try to tell me what issues I should champion. Thank you

This our fight na till eternity 🤣

Godsknight:
Hello house , I have Bsc in Business Administration with 2.1, two masters degree , one in Operations mananagement (Nigeria) , another in Logistics and supply chain management from UK . I have GRE score of 330 . I have applied to four universities for PhD in supply chain and operations management. The four schoools are: uni of Missouri St Louis , uni of Wisconsin, Purdue university , University of Tennesse , knoville . I need your suggestion on more good schools with high acceptance rate to apply to . Thank you

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missjekyll:
Dumbo's executive orders
1. Ending birthright citizenship
2. Leave WHO
3. Leave Paris Agreement
4. Say there are only 2 genders
5. Immediately end all DEI programs
6. End working from home.
7. Pardon insurrectionists

Literally everything he said he would do.

However, us lawyers are hooting with laughter because the EO are riddled with typos and faulty lawyering . Also obviously written with AI.

Seriously he thinks he can stop birthright citizenship with an executive order. Smh

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/20/tump-executive-orders-list?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

(Can anybody access this link or is it behind a pay wall? Let me know if you can't access it)

Better face your uk issues.

Poanan:
How do you mean people abused the citizeship by birth? All I see in your response to missjekyII is a personal beef you have for those who thought it wise to get citizenship for their babies in the U.S. It is not their fault they can afford it.

Yes, Trump wants to end citizenship by birth through an executive order. Anything is possible in today's world. However, can this be done through an executive order? This is something that is in the constitution and will need an amendment.

Amending a constitution cannot be done in one week. Let's see how the week unfolds.

Give me one reason why Nigerian politicians and elite refuse to give birth to their children in Nigeria.

Maybe with this order they will quit being greedy and begin to fix the dilapidated healthcare system in Nigeria or they will find another safe haven that offers citizenship by birth.

Chukwuka16:
Money rules the world: money is what will change our course with strategic positioning

Almost nothing material is needed for a happy life, for he who has understood existence - Marcus Aurelius.

What a time to be alive. I have acquaintances who have been unable to secure visas to the US and Canada even with their PhD’s and work employment. They live in the same Nigeria as Portable (Habeeb Okikiola Badmus). While Portable has been able to visit the UK, UAE, Turkey, the US and Canada, my erudite acquaintances with degrees, employment, and scholastic achievements have been denied such access.

I come in peace.

I have begun my musings this morning to set the stage for what may be considered polemic or mad rantings. When Marcus Aurelius pontificated his philosophy, he was in an age where knowledge was golden. Being knowledgeable was enough to deliver you from a lifetime of servitude. Society was structured as a feudal system. Labour was not a commodity that could be easily sold except in specific instances. You mostly lived as a serf rewarding your landlord with a significant portion of your harvests. We are unfortunately back to such today. You literally have no service for which you pay one off lifetime fees. I remember when software was bought and paid for one-time with updates provided as complementary for life. Today, you pay for everything for life – SAAS. You rent outlook services from Microsoft, you rent Netflix and Amazon and Apple, you rent your mobile service and broadband service, you rent your right to buy/rent a space in a community (council tax), you rent your ability to watch the news (TV licence), you rent your right to live in a country and be rewarded for your labour (taxes and NI), you rent electricity, you rent water, you rent the right to drive a car (taxes and insurance), you are practically spending a significant part of your income renting monthly – the so-called techno feudalism.

We are even incentivised to work harder (on the farmlands) to ensure we can continue to reward our feudal lords (Amazon, Netflix, Microsoft, Apple, internet and broadband service providers, the government, insurance firms, energy firms, water companies, etc.) through credit scores. I now firmly believe that this world is a simulation, and we are all in a matrix. I mean we have moved from feudalism to capitalism and back to (techno)feudalism. How did we not see it coming? Suddenly, a TV is an empty box without internet. Even the government that is supposed to be an arbiter is scheming new ways of extracting more rent from us.

The emerging economic system is funny but very troubling. In today’s world, knowledge is now a commodity that is traded in the market. Knowledge is no longer the thread that holds the fabric of society together. It is something that can be bartered! I can exchange my corn harvest for your knowledge. If you doubt this ask Wole Soyinka. It is this reason Portable can be recognised and given the privilege to travel overseas while my knowledgeable acquaintances are denied such opportunities. Portable has been able to setup an ecosystem that allows him extract rent from his “craziness” and “music”. When you stream his music online, he gets paid something. When you attend his shows, he gets paid something. When ads are placed on his music online and watched by you and me, he gets paid something. It is this relevance of his that companies see and pay him to advertise their products to convince you and I to patronise them. My acquaintances with all the degrees still depend on a landlord to give them land to ply their trade while Portable is buying “lands” and hiring knowledgeable folks to develop them while extracting rent via his ecosystem.

This is why I have so much respect for folks who ply their trades on OF. They understand the evolution of the world’s economy and human needs and have setup an ecosystem to extract rent from you (not me). I do not support the depravity of OF but I must commend intelligence at work. No embassy will see Portable as a potential absconder because they see his ecosystem and the rent he extracts. They know he has money and has strategically positioned himself to be a landlord. They respect this and give him his visa. His next US visa renewal I guess will be via drop box. My educated acquaintances will continue to languish back in Nigeria because they lack this understanding. With his money, Portable can be anything. He can run for LGA chairman tomorrow and win it. You think I am lying – ask Seyi Tinubu.

Back in the diaspora, I laugh. There was a time everyone was a data analyst. Later everyone became a business analyst. Later it was cybersecurity. Today it is project management and AI. I have seen some people’s names online, and I am like wtf. BSc, MSc, MA, PGcert, PMP, Scrum, BA, CISS, CISP, MMM, YYY… We can’t continue like this. Certifications are important but first things first, we need an ecosystem. If our investments in such qualifications are to enhance our ecosystem and build resilience, then that is worthwhile. But to polish up ourselves to be better slaves in other people’s ecosystems is unsustainable in the long-term. When such roles are no longer available, what do we revert to?

We can be like Portable. Let me extract some advice for us from his song Apostle.

Members donated bulletproof car for the pastor
And the same pastor got attack by who
By unknown gunmen
Security wey dey guide pastor o
Dem no get bulletproof car
Members wey dey follow pastor o
Dem no get bulletproof car
Only pastor and family
Dem dey use bulletproof car

Bulletproof car saved the pastor
Not the miracles

The lesson is to have our own bulletproof car. While we are working in the ecosystem of others and donating our all to them, we should remember that one day, unknown gunmen will come and if we don’t have bulletproof car, na die be that o.

We must start being strategic. Society will never value us if we have no value. I laughed hard when I saw that report from the migration advisory committee (MAC) that claimed that immigrants contributed 20x more than natives and Nigerians were on a rampage. Nothing is as fraudulent as statistics. Let me elucidate. According to MAC, “… skilled migrants on work visas contribute approximately £16,300 in net fiscal impact (tax receipts), which is 20 times higher than the £800 contributed by UK-born adults.” The implication of this statement is quite dire. First, it establishes the fact that UK’s immigration policy is set to strangulate and impoverish immigrants. No be who pay more tax get money pass, ask Donald Trump and Warren Buffet. There is a reason for IR35 formulation and revision. Second, it evidences the fact that UK natives are vast and adept in the art of tax avoidance (and even evasion) which is a privilege that immigrants cannot have for at least 5 years. The fact that Nigerians were excited about the findings of MAC was also troubling because it made me realise that we were more interested in comparing di*k sizes than even building wealth.

We cannot achieve Marcus Aurelius’ vision if we do not have wealth as a collective. Wealth doesn't matter anymore when we have it in abundance. The pockets of rich Nigerian immigrants do not skew the statistics. We need to realise that starting now is even late, but we just must start. We are a very knowledgeable people. Why should we barter that all our lives for corn. If Portable can be smart in setting up an ecosystem to extract rent for himself, why can’t we do the same? You work in the NHS, what stops you from identifying problems there and working with a team of like-minded people to develop something to address that problem and commercialise it if it works? You work in finance, what stops you from identifying a pain point, assembling a team of like-minded people and attempting to solve that issue with commercialisation as the end goal. It is not rocket science, we just have to do it. The world has changed but we can ensure some level of resilience if we start today. The goal is to build an ecosystem that helps us generate wealth that enables us to push our values and ideals to the level of national discourse. The goal is preservation of our kind, ensuring that they have options and choices tomorrow, thus guaranteeing their place at the table of decision-making.

Interesting. Are you thesame guy that recommend capitalism without capital book? If yes. How about setting up a WhatsApp group ?

SPDAZZY:
It's 12500 for me

See another for London to New York

How much does one need to spend to get 12500 worth of Avios ?

Zahra29:
Facts.

According to latest polls, Reform is already within touching distance of Labour. Not great news for Labour, less than 1 year from the GE. This year's local elections should be interesting. And it appears that the UK is moving into a 3-party system for the first time ever.

I don’t believe in polls anymore.

Lexusgs430:
Or go extreme and vote Farage and his gangsters into power...... 😂🤣

Reform has no ideology or long term plans. Majority of them are racist.

Lexusgs430:
This is just the beninging...... 😂🤣

I talked about implosion and infighting, before they got into power........

KS would also face his fire, quote me..... 😂🔥

I no kuku vote that day. I pick shift like beans 🫘 🤣

jedisco:
Didn't take long. Telegraph is already arguing against ILR for our great british care workers. When they were used to subsidize care costs, they didn't know they were 'low-skilled'. Now its time to become citizens, they don remember their skill... lol
Interesting how these folks advocate a UAE-esque system when it suits but when it doesn't, accuse those folks of human right abuses. If its a mistake, why is the visa pathway still open? Well, I'm happy Keir is overseeing the return of migration numbers to 'normalcy'

Over the next two years, many of those who arrived since 2021 will become eligible for indefinite leave to remain. Once this is granted, no matter how expensive they may turn out to be, they can stay. The priority for the Government should be preventing this from happening – extending the time taken for eligibility, imposing fiscal contribution thresholds and, in the longer term, shifting towards a guest worker model for short-term, low-wage work. The alternative is too costly to contemplate.

That conversation of building and getting Africa working that you all don’t want to have will one way or the other come to hunt us. “Let me mind my African business”

missjekyll:
She just resigned. Corrupt corruption minister. Ridiculous

2 minister so far have resigned. Maybe Labour is filled with bad eggs after all

missjekyll:
Of course. Unlike the H1-B visa which allows companies to hire overseas workers and underpay them.

We don't do that poo over here. What you get is what everyone gets. Of course you pay some additional fees such as the ihs surcharge but it's the same salary.

US news is highly depressing at the minute. Tuning them out...

Same should be replicated towards Nigerian looters who steal money and buy houses in the uk

missjekyll:
Of course. Unlike the H1-B visa which allows companies to hire overseas workers and underpay them.

We don't do that poo over here. What you get is what everyone gets. Of course you pay some additional fees such as the ihs surcharge but it's the same salary.

US news is highly depressing at the minute. Tuning them out...

Plus we have free nhs unlike Americans who have to pay thousands for blood test. Everywhere has their pro and cons. Tough times ahead.

Cyberknight:
New foreign experts to be blamed for the UK's self-inflicted domestic problems, you mean.

I hope they pay the experts like the Americans. If they want them to come.

NIUK people just dey press peeps doing care neck.

directonpc:
I always find your contributions here on point, including this one.
Though I've had negative experiences with people of Indian origin in professional dealings and the ones that ripped my partner off at her student accommodation, I can't say people like Sundar became the CEO of Google only by cheating the system.

I'm also learning personally that as a minority, do more than see challenges and complain. I've worked in teams where I'm the only person of color and managed to thrive by just focusing on doing my best job. You'll very likely get your respect for being competent and hard to replace.

If i begin to narrate the things those people have done ehn.
I will just let it slide, because black people will rather take sides against their own just to look good in the eyes of other race.

Its a dna thing. That's one of the reason or our predicaments.

missjekyll:
I beg to disagree. It's not your African business,it's your personal rather bigoted business.

I am happy you are getting a lot of pushback on this thread and I hope you will have a rethink.

I feel I have to remind you that the use of slurs is not only wrong but is also illegal.
That slur you used the other day ,if anyone ever said that to me in person, I ll be on skates to HR no matter if it's my village person.

Zero tolerance for bigotry

If anyone is a bigot on this forum you are topping that list. Don’t you ever engage my post and I will do thesame.

missjekyll:
I beg to disagree. It's not your African business,it's your personal rather bigoted business.

I am happy you are getting a lot of pushback on this thread and I hope you will have a rethink.

I feel I have to remind you that the use of slurs is not only wrong but is also illegal.
That slur you used the other day ,if anyone ever said that to me in person, I ll be on skates to HR no matter if it's my village person.

Zero tolerance for bigotry

You will be fine you and your HR.

You all want to be white so bad.

When it comes to issue of fixing Africa you are lethargic but when it comes to other race, na there una dey get irate. Lord lugard is correct when it comes to folks like you. Don’t worry you will be reminded who you are. Na just time. Ire oo

[quote author=jedisco post=133654179]Racial stereotypes are almost always wrong.

First, regarding the state of India, it's worth remembering that civilisations come and go. Before the current European period, several empires and civilisations have been top of the ladder at different times in human history. India has a rich history and suffered greatly as western nations extracted resources - I dont see what 'manipulation' surpasses that. China, Indonesia, Singapore, UAE e.t.c has shown that building a modern economy is not an inate characteristic of a certain race. The current rise of China has not been seen in human history. Furthermore, as the indian economy is rapidly on the rise, if the maintain current progress, they'd be at the top in no time.


That you push the narrative that Indians are innately bad surprises me. I've done well for myself in the UK and respect high performers. I have seen extremely bright Indians who worked their way to the top through grit. They being overrepresented in higher earning roles is because they worked doubly hard and built a network. They endured the racism, put in the hardwork that others didn't and rose to the top. There are mediocre ones and bad eggs but thats the case with every race.

Let me ask, what has been your personal experience with Indians [/quote

I don mind my African business.

Zahra29:
Lol, I don't disagree and India is certainly not a country I'd choose to live in or even visit....however, the facts are the facts whether we like them or not.

Many might be leaving but there are also many who are earning a very good income in India working for international organisations that are increasingly moving large parts of their back office and technical operations there to save costs.

India's space programme is unnecessary imo and I think they're only doing it for bragging rights, however - it is a major economic and technological feat. Even the UK and EU countries do not national space programmes. (The EU has Galileo but it's not really the same).

Open defecation, (eww), is not nationwide I presume. Every country has its good and bad spots and India is a relatively popular tourist destination - Taj Mahal etc..plus many western companies have offices in India - Pune, Bangalore, Hyderabad etc

Even Trudeau had to back down from their diplomatic row when India started taking action against Canada.

So yeh, India has definitely moved up several levels.

Let me kukuma mind my African business 🤣

Zahra29:
In fairness to India, they have done extremely well in rebranding themselves from a 3rd world country and positioning themselves as one of the BRICs. India now commands respect and representation on the world stage in politics, science and technology and business. Many top tier global organisations are expanding their offshore operations in India, and India is ramping up its space programme which has already achieved some feats, to mention a few areas.

It's not ethnic prejudice to label Nigeria a 3rd world/developing country. Also the likes of Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan which are neighbours to India, but worlds apart.

Launching space programme when their people can’t afford clean water, does open defecation is unwise.

If they are so smart why are they all running out of their country.

jedisco:
Hmm.. Indians have done well for themselves in the West. I only hope they can also achieve good development back home.
If Nigerians had similar attainment to them in the West, we'd be receiving more hate.

It's important not to follow media narratives to belittle hard working, high-attaininig folks just because of ethnic prejudices. Else, we'd next be calling ourselves third worlders.

They are not special or hardworking they just have ways of manipulating any system.

missjekyll:
Tax the rich.
When people get stratospherically wealthy, they unfailingly become villains.


Look at the sort of unhinged person the US has handed power to. They created this monster and all of us are suffering for it.

Capitalism is a disease.

Goke7:
Stop ke! When he’s just starting

He is a thug at this moment.

Elon is going mad and needs to stopped.

rock86:
I'm bored

Go to the gym.

missjekyll:
But this is a slur,now...why call people that?
And why stereotype people ?
You wouldn't be happy reading this about Nigerians in an Indian forum now,would you?

I know some lovely Indian people and we get along like a house on fire. Try some Indian friends. You ll be amazed.

No thank you.