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stillwater:
@ drkchoclit

Don't get us wrong, we understand and sympathise with our fellow black people in the Americas. But please tell the hiphop videos to propagate the black community in a good light. Being black its not about smoking, using curse words, calling yourself the n-word, girls with their butts and not so real cleavages in your face. Is that what the likes of Martin Luther King Jr fought for? I think he fought for the right to education not the aforementioned.


But illiterate blacks have stooped to call themselves the n-word and think it's cool?



But how many of today's African Americans are making use of what their strong and determined heroes fought for? Martin Luther King would turn in his grave if he sees his vision being made a mockery of by you guys. You have the right to go to school, you do not even have to pay for school fees in your public schools, but how many makes it to college or a university? If a black man makes something good out of his life they would say he's acting white. You guys should understand that the whites are not your problem, the problem lies in the African American community.

I agree with much of what you wrote but then you go into some real generalizations that have me wondering is your knowledge about African Americans from T.V. ?

eldee:
Anyone that knows Nas will agree with me that he has had among the most eye-catching track titles. I believe Godson has taken a more respctable road to get publicity and album sales. Since the beef with Jay-Z, it has been hard for him to get people to go on to get his message no thanks to the new pop-culture rave in hiphop.

Life's A Bitch
Got Yourself A Gun
Everybody's Crazy
and the one that finally got the attention Hip-hop Is Dead

Of all these ones 'Nigger' has obviously been the boldest of them. I think he has done no wrong since he has always lived up to the expectations put on him as one of the few remaining poets of the golden age of hip-hop. Even if he used the album title to get recognition,I will rather have my fave rapper getting publicity through conroversial issues than by going commercial.

This is also a way to prove to everyone that signing with DefJam will not change anything other than his mode of dressing.

I agree with you about what you said about Nas. Nas is what I would call a "Thug Conscious" artist.and has always be one to educate though his music. I think that his effort to address the word "Nigger" is no different than the books that have been written to address the same issue. He is just using Hip Hop to convey his message and should be given the same respect as those others that tried to address it.

I personally don't use the word because I see no positives out of it or get any from it. I see it as accepting negativity that the European placed on Africans. However, I think it is great that it is coming into the forefront as an issue and being discuss, so people can put their opinions out there.

toshmann:
and will last for as long as humanity
the earlier we realise this, and learn how to live with it,the better

I don't think it will last for as long as humanity. It will last until an new way of classifying people is created. Just like RACE as we know it today was created not that long ago to classify people for the sole purpose of perpetuating a system of advantage.

lai-lai:
most people don't still understand that racism (both from whites and even their fellow skin-colored people) is stil in a continous play. we need to get a grip

I couldn't agree more. The system of advantage called Racism is alive and well.

Souljagirl:
but alas, when i came to yankee, black is black, whether you're a light skinned or black-as-midnight dark skinned, all na the same to oyinbo man.

Well said.

frgy_:
i feel you.
gata be positive.
but in general are we helping ourselves?

I don't think we are at this time helping ourselves a great deal. I think people are thinking more in terms of me nowadays.

I feel that these types of situations happened in the past as well. It seems like we have to hit rock bottom before we come together and make great strides.

We have to be positive and just make sure that we are about that positive change.

skyone:
Black is beautiful, but our grassroot problem is civilisation and lack of encouragement towards development. Unity and rule of law contributes immensely to any societal development in the world. The question now is, " Are black people united at all"?

I agree and to answer your question are "Black" people united. I put "Black" in quotes because it is a meaningless term from the Creation of Race but for this conversation I will continue using it. I think that they are not so united today because we have lost our way.

Now, lets look back 50 years and the state of "Black" people around the world. What did the world look like? Well in the States "Black" people were not free, the continent was under colonization for the most part still, etc. Lets look back 100 years and picture still is the same and "Black" people in Brazil were just ending their enslavement no more than a 2 decades before.

If you look at what I stated I think you will see that in the past 50 years we have made big strides around the world. With that said, we are now trying to find our way and figure out how to make that next step. I think people need to understand that change doesn't happen overnight and takes a long time to happen. There were ups and downs over the period of enslavement and colonization period but finally we became united and won our freedom all over the world. This will happen again to push us to the next phase.

I think that it is also beyond just thinking of "Black" is beautiful in terms of just appearance. I see it in more the terms of "Do people think that anything "Black" is great?" in the sense of institutions etc. When I say institutions I mean educational, business, political, etc. I think that is what will play into development. I wonder, if one doesn't think that the institutions that we create are great will they work in unity to make them grow?


@poster
Now looking at Is "Black" Beautiful issue. I really don't think this is just an African American issue but one all around the world. The Creation of Race (junk science) by Europeans affected African people around the world. However, I agree that people don't think that their African features are beautiful and that "Black" is Beautiful is just lip service.

frgy_:
well lazy,
it not about the colour. its about d people.u can't say my observations are not right. so look at it from another angle and sugest a solution 2 the problem.turning a blind eye wont help

I agree but I think people think that "black" people should be at some level right now. People have to realize that "Black" people haven't been free for that long of a period of time and from the situation that we existed no more than 100 years ago around the world. We have made leaps and bounds. Change doesn't occur overnight it takes time and hard work. There are going to be ups and downs but you have to maintain that progress is going up. I think "Black" people have done that.

frgy_:
Alright, i know this is a very sensitive topic, please try not to misunderstand me.
its nt that i regard us inferior 2 others but don't you ever think about it? from africa to america, asia to australia.any society dominated by black people is allways a disfunctional one.the most functional of such society is southafrica and this is atributed to d minority white population there.nd the hitches,to the majority black folks
IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE MELANIN IN OUR SKIN??

I think you already know the answer to that question. There is nothing wrong with the melanin in our skin. I think some "black" people have issues with them but to attribute it to melanin is no different then this whole concept of "Race". In which, the whole idea was that our "black" skin was the mark of inferiority. We need to understand that "Race" doesn't exist and get past this.

This one is easy, "NO"

There is no need to go after a married woman, unless the person is just in it for "physical reasons" LOL!
Nothing good on a serious note comes out of that type of situation 9 times out of 10.

britgirlee:
Lazy

very very true, feel like changing the old saying 'put yr money where yr mouth is to put yr Face where yr comments are'

ps love the goateee

LOL! I like the new saying!

Thank you for the compliment!

btw you have a beautiful smile.

meta4:
WHAT WILL YOU DO?
guys please help out. what will you do if your girl friend tells you that she has not seen her period for three days now?
please what will you do?prepare for marriage or what?

Just be patient and wait and see. It is way too early to start to get worried.

britgirlee:
Ive noticed a large amount of nairalanders hide their pictures!!!
Especially the ones who are the loudest who take pride and joy in givig out sarcastic and rude comments!!

If your brave enough to do so be brave enough to show what you look like. And stop being cowardly,

Anyone feel the same, ??

Interesting topic!

I have noticed that people only act brave on the internet because they are anonymous.

9ja_Lady:
Look, as I said it before, i'll say it again, hip-hop is on serious life support and hanging on by a thread of hair. At the same time hip-pop is emerging. GOSPEL HIP-HOP IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE FOR ME!!!

I don't think that Hip Hop is on life support. I just think this era of Hip Hop is on life support. This era has lasted a lot longer than any other. The reason is that it is being pushed by the people that sit on the boards of Song BMG, EMI, Universal, and Warner.

I enjoy Gospel Hip Hop, but I wouldn't put it in a different category. It is the same music genre. You are just speaking on different topics. I know people that are artist that are Christians, They will still say they are Hip Hop Artist.

Hip Hop is not one type, That is what is messed up now.

jerrymania:
Forget the streets.Shouldnt rappers mostly southern rappers be educated to be good in using words and at least know some basic things like metaphor,simile and the rest?

I agree that they should learn how to use metaphors and similes. Some of their lyrics make no sense at all.

Like this:

Thats That Salad Dressin Im On My Thousand Island
Wildin, Stylin, I Be I Get So Much Money Its My I.D Dont Try Me

What are you saying!! LOL!!

As far as their accent, I think that is fine if that is how they talk where they are from. I enjoy hearing everyones accent. I would hate for people to all sound the same. That is boring.

I would have to say we need to get back to the best era of hip hop from around 1988 - 1994

That era had so many classic albums and they were all different kinds of hip hop. The problem with hip hop is that it is all the same.

Boggie Down Productions (KRS-ONE) - By any Means Necessary - Social Conscious Hip Hop
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - Political Hip Hop
NAS Illmatic - Thug Conscious Hip hop (first album crowned one of the greatest lyricist.)
NWA Striaght Outta Compton - Gansta Hip Hop
Tribe Called Quest Low End Theory. - Jazz/Conscious Hip Hop,

that is just a small list and if you had an all time album list , those would be on it,

Whether it is that new song by Playaz Circle w/ Lil Wayne called Duffle Bag Boy or 50 Cent song called I GET MONEY, from North/ South/ East/ West, it is basically the same thing, and nothing really different. Now we do have Lupe, Kanye, Common, Talib, but it is far a few between,

You also had the Stop the Violence Movement, Artist actually tried to use there status to help the community, now most just want to just make money, You could see that with the Jena 6 issue, there was not many that open their mouth to say a thing, Only people like Mos, Bun B, Ice Cube, etc,

I have to say I do love that Soujah Boy Dance!! LOL!!