Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 9:24pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
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Yoruba are not part of the South.
That was an erraneous geo-political allocation.
S.NorthWest, is Yoruba region.
Yoruba and the North West have history.
Both this regions have no interaction with SS/SE, before the British arrival
Southern Nigeria is SS/SE. Shebi it’s your ancestors that gave us the land we are currently on right? Go to the map and carve out the SW out of Nigeria and come back to lay claim to your rubbish you’ve been chanting since. I won’t reply you again coz it seems you’re a confirmed troll. You keep shouting SW not being south since and I wonder why your kinsmen can’t recommend you to a native doctor to cure you of your ignorance. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 9:22pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
PureFace1: All those tribes in South South are all Yoruba haters
Look at programs like BB Naija and MBGN
There were Yoruba contestants that deserve to win it but they would never vote for them because they are Yoruba.
You will see them all over the internet calling Yoruba all kind of names and they all hide under Igbo to hate on Yoruba.
Many Yoruba still don't know how these people in the south hate their guts but because we are just too strong for their hatred, you will never notice You are right bro, I’ve always maintained that sentiment of yours also. The SW is just around the den of lions called the south. In everything we are always antagonized, if you check public sentiment on Nairaland you will see the hate all around. We have maintain our homogeneity and withstood most of the missiles from the other southerners and they always want to push us to submission by quoting a fluke southern unity. Southern unity my as* |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 9:18pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
festacman: In your calculations, you fail to reckon with changing times. Stereotypes collapse because times change and equations change too. Look, you can never perfectly predict 2023 dynamics in 2019. You are right, I ain’t projecting 2023 politics. If you check through all my comment you will see I’m tryna be in the defensive against one fact that the Igbos jeep churning out about Yorubas being southern betrayal. That statement always makes my stomach turn coz the Igbos are the biggest hypocrite ever to grace mother earth. They have been betraying south since 1960, Yorubas did it once in 2015 and all hell let loose. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 9:15pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
AyosMan: See am an Urhobo man I need to make it clear before you people tag me ipob. When I read many of your comments here all I see are people without historical background or be they have short memory. Let me lecture some of you briefly....In the political history of this entity called Nigeria the Yoruba's have always known to play the opposition politics which I respect them for bcus every healthy society need opposition. Example, Awo played an opposition during his political Carrier days. I laugh when the Yoruba's here say that IBO's have always be relegated to the back sit in Nigeria politic that's, far from the truth. 1960 when Nigeria gain her independence the first governor general whom the colonial masters handed the power to was Tafa balewa from present Bauchi state and Dr. Namdi Azikiwe the Owelle of Onitsha who, became the president October 1963 when Nigeria became full fledge republic, while Tafa Balewa was the prime minister bcus it was a parliamentry system of government then. Also, the first military head in Nigeria is Agurosi from present IMO state, Dr Alex Ikweme was a vice president to Shagari in the first republic. The only Yoruba man was ever a military head of state was Obasanjo, also the first Yoruba man to occupy the office a civilian president in Nigeria same Obasanjo. Shonekon was just an accidental interim govt. This was while G.O Adeboye said in one of the then Holy Ghost congress that if there is any Yoruba man who should be grateful to God is Olushegu Obasanjo papa Iyabo. So the school of history actually has it the IBO's have never be relegated to the back sit in Nigeria politics. In 2015 the northerner needed power badly bcus they felt they were being shortchanged while the Yoruba's felt that the then president Jonathan was not carrying them along terms of appointment forgetting, that PDP zone the spearship to south west but tinubu used his them ACN members from south west to vote for Tambuwa present Sokoto state governor that was how he became a speaker, yet the Yoruba's blame Jonathan for it instead of tinubu that, was the begin of Jonathan misunderstanding with Tambuwa bcus of the same Yoruba's issue in the party zoning which Tambuwa went against! You are right! Now in all honesty, do you think all the insults against the Yorubas are justified about us being southern betrayals when in actual fact the Igbos have formed the most alliance with the North just like you opined. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 9:11pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
Mandeyy: The Lily livered are those who are sheepishly supporting wrong policies of this administration even when their region was infiltrated with killer herdsmen. When they threatened them, they couldn't do anything. Gani Adams threatened them in vain. My joy is that Igbos have been proved right. They maintained that Buhari would not do Nigeria any good. Today, it has happened. We've not seen dividends of democracy from this administration, but your people have started agitating for 2023. Is that not greed? As for Al-Mustapha's threat, no Yoruba leader has ever come out to debunk it. As per mustapha, why should the Yoruba come out to defend a saying from a demented prisoner called Mustapha. I don’t give a bleep about Buhari, it’s like you don’t know me by mistaking me for a Buhari supporter. I’m only an advocacy for the Yorubas and I don’t always drag myself into any argument with the Igbos unless they abuse or misinform people about the Yorubas. The Igbos tried voting a renowned fugitive called Atiku who was a Muslim northerner so what is actually your argument? |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 9:04pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
Obdk: The South East, South South and South West will never come together for anything..
Will you festacman vote an Igbo person? No..
But Igbos ve voted a yoruba man Igbo voter a Yoruba man because they have no choice. It’s two Yorubas on the ballot. OBJ already defeated Ekwueme in the presidential primaries of PDP so you have no choice than to support him. So what are you bragging about? |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 9:01pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
Mandeyy: When did Yoruba start playing national politics? Just this 2015 you stopped being in the opposition. It all started with Awolowo. Obj was not supported by your people, so don't count his stay in office as being your tribe playing national politics. He was a pan-Nigerian project. If you know all this fact then why do you all keep blaming the Yorubas for being an ally of the north? Isn’t it the Igbos that had been the lackey to the North since 1960? Why can’t you blame yourself and stop dragging the Yorubas to the mud with you. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 8:59pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
PureFace1: Yoruba and Igbo can never be friends
Last we will break up this country and everyone will be on his own
Fucck other ethnic groups they are all Yoruba haters
They all hide under the Igbo to hate on Yoruba
But we are too big for their hatred to stop our progress. Don’t mind them. We’ve been holding the dignity of the south since 1960 when Azikwe first sold the south to the north. We held it against Ekwueme, Ugoh when they betrayed the southern hemogeny against the sons of the soil. The Yorubas alone stood against the southern antagonists that called themselves friend and we have survived through the storm. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 8:55pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
Mandeyy: Go back and read Mustapha's interviews about how Yoruba leaders sabotaged Abiola's resolve to become president. He said he would release the video clips if they doubted it, and they kept quiet. They went to Abacha and told him not to release Abiola, that he should deal with him, but when they visited Abiola, they told him not to leave the prison until his mandate was restored. Majority of those who did this were the people that formed NADECO. That's why I believe that Yoruba are two-faced. So you want me to believe Al-Mustapha a tyrant solicitor that MKO wife was killed under his order over the Yoruba leaders? Seems you Igbos are lily livered that can be controlled by beer parlor gists. It’s not a surprise coz almost 80% of you beleived Buhari is Jubril from Sudan. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 8:52pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
DMerciful: Igbos cry because they are ambitious. Others tends to be ok with mediocrity. Wonder why the igbos are the richest ethnic group despite the Biafra war? How do you judge richest ethnic group? What modalities did you use to arrive at your conclusion? I’m listening! |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 8:49pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
citizen202: yet your Yoruba candidates will come to the Southeast to ask us to vote for a Yoruba President? what do you think the average south Easterners will think? As far as I'm concerned my vote is for any Northerner contesting till the Yoruba's are ready for a genuine Southern Unity...we all die here Did Buhari not come to the SE to campaign in 2015 even when he knew no one will vote for him? Remind me what you’re saying earlier! |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 8:14pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
ityP: El-Rufai is not close to power? Lol. Una go shock What is El-Rufais political machinery in the North? El-Rufai that struggled to win Kaduna election is who you’re saying has political clout in the North. After Ahmadu Bello, the only one that comes close to him is Muhammadu Buhari, and after him there is none that can get that much Northern maximum support. While I don’t care what happens in the north, it’s good to always put you guys in your place when you try dishing out beer parlor gists. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:56pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
ityP: See this one? U wan force me to be Igbo? Lol. My papa, mama, great grandparents, NONE are/were igbos. If e vex u, choke. But we must have a Northern President come 2023. I don’t take orders from the SS. Except Benin and delta, I don’t give a f*ck about other SS tribe. Besides your crude oil what human intelligence do you contribute to this nation. I’m trying to restrain myself please don’t let me drag the SS into this. You can give your contribution without attacking the SW please. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:52pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
RTSC: And the sad thing is that the SE,SS, SW and MB could have played together, rotate the presidency and be untouchable.
It would not only be a far more progressive govt for the country, it would be better for the south,. The country would move at a much faster Pace. But sadly, it would never be. I share in your sentiment. The South can unite only when each tribe stop blaming one another for our collective mistake. The Igbos always push the narrative that the Yorubas betrays the southern unity while in actual fact the Igbo man is the one that have done that continuously. For us to unite, we must forget the past and chart a new road with a solid bargaining prowess and stop all the blame game. I’m already tired of Nigeria also, but we won’t keep shut when the Igbos deep dishing out lies while projecting some victim mentality. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:48pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
maestroferddi: You are not smart, ogbeni...
Going by your warped logic, which work did Obasanjo do in the PDP in 2003 that warranted his re-election?
If you had any sense, you should know that Nigeria have a choice in allowing to prevail by letting the Igbos have a bite at the presidential cherry or get jet-set for the consequences of any arbitrary behaviour which.might as well spell the end of Nigeria as a body politic.
Think before getting carried away in irridentist fervour... For you to ask me this kind of question showed you don’t understand politics. You are asking OBJ work in PDP when he actually own the PDP structure in his hands as at 2003. OBJ won all the SW states excerpt Lagos for PDP in 2003 and yet you’re asking what was his relevance? OBJ that has the power to make and break senate presidents at that time is who you are asking what he contributed to the PDP? Besides Atiku that was a major factor in PDP in 2003, tell me an Igbo man that is stronger than OBJ in 2003. I’m waiting! |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:44pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
RTSC: The only difference was that Jonathan was a minority facing attacks from the north, most of whom was based on ethnicity and religion.
Jonathan was a neutral fellow from a minority ethnic that could have resulted in a southern unity if the South west played ball, but greed no allow them.
Instead, they went for the low hanging fruit which anybody could have done. But the SW voted the same Jonathan in 2011 and he payed us back with marginalization by making the Igbos his major adviser.
The same SW were instrumental into making him overcome the Turai cabals when they tried denying him the presidency position when he was acting President.
SW a majority tribe was not deemed fit to be in the first four position in Nigeria, and yet you think the SW should keep supporting Jonathan? Jonathan bite the hand that feeds him and he faced the consequence of his action. How should that be the major headache of the Igbos! |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:41pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
ityP: Mumu. States from my region (South South) are the top oil producing states in Nigeria. So What's my business with Igbos? As i said, we, the South South are solidly behind the North. We will not follow the igbos to their biafra, we will support the North for as long as possible. We will also support the Yorubas for everlasting Vice Presidentship Why are you scared of identifying with the Igbos? Your way of typing betrayed your identity and it gave you out coz you typed with the same magnitude of hate that always emanates from the East.
SS is a conglomerate of lot of tribes, mention your actual identity and don’t drag all the SS into your display of ignorance.
I won’t abuse or speak against the SS. So swerve bro |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:37pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
waternogetenemy: Bad belle people, power belongs to the North.
They already have it and dont have to murder anybody to keep it.
U have nothing to grasp and not even the support of your fellow Southerners or the International Community.
2023, the North will seek the support and vote of SS/SE to actualise their ambition, same way the SW was used in 2015.
Atiku proves, the SS/SE are equally as dependable.
There are no permanent friends in Politics, just Permanent interest. At the bolded, it’s not a surprise , the North have been seeking the support of the Igbos since 1960 and seeking it again in 2023 shouldn’t be an exception.
The surprise would have been if Igbos say they won’t ally with the north to antagonize SW.
Azikwe, Ekwueme, Ugoh, all did that so the present generation of Igbos doing same shouldn’t be a surprise to sane minds. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:35pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
RTSC: I don't understand. When did MKO a corrupt fellow become George Washington that everybody must vote for?
He was a highly corrupt fellow with a lot of philantropism. We didn't vote for him as is our right and we are proud of it. Though it was an Igbo inec chairman that declared him president at the risk of death.
We didn't betray him. His own people sold him out. Now using your own line, when did a corrupt fellow like Jonathan became George Washington that everybody should vote for?
The Yorubas did not vote Jonathan in 2015, it is our right and we are proud of it.Why then do you always blame the Yorubas of betraying the south, when you have done the same thing triple times. Don’t you think something is wrong somewhere? |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:32pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
Osaze007: Igbo has been perpetual Nigerian slaves since 1961 Azikwe was Akobata to Balewa Azikwe was not even elected, he just formed a government with Balewa to become figure head executive president. No Igbo man have ever faced the ballot and won in a democracy. They should achieve that feat first before complaining about the far superior Yorubas! |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:30pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
ityP: SW don't have oil. The South South have no problem with North ruling. We love it in fact Ondo State is the 5th or 6th oil producing state in Nigeria. The problem of most of you is that you don’t read, and you beleived too much in beer parlor gists. Ondo State produces crude oil than any state in the SE. bring forth a contrary argument! |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:28pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
modik: This singular posture and input of yours now clearly affirms your state of ignorance. When does the action and decision of military represent that of ethnic group?
By implication, all actions of Buratai is that of the north ba?
My last response to a narrow minded retard! If Buratai murders Tinubu, Osinbajo, Alaafin of Oyo, his action will be the action of the North.
If Butatai murders Peter Obi, Obiano, Obi of Onitsha, Soludo, his action will be the action of the north.
You should take it as act of honor for me to even engage you in a discussion this long! Gracias. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:22pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
RTSC: I couldn't give a fucck who you vote for. Your candidate ran as VP in 2019 and lost the south woefully.
The only time your Yoruba candidate has won presidential elections, you didn't even vote for him. It took the SE\SS to make him president. Are you of voting age in 1993 when MKO was voted as president? The Igbos in their usual betrayal of the southern cause voted for Tofa, a Fulani from the north.The Yorubas won through the ballot in 1993, got annulled, was voted through the ballot again in 1999 and 2003. When has the Igbo man ever been voted through the ballot since 1914? Mention one time, just one.If you have never achieved the feat of the mighty Yorubas, then you shouldn’t have the audacity to talk about making anyone president. Coz how can a king- maker be perpetually subservient to his subjects? |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:18pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
modik: That is a clear testament that Igbos are not docile and feudalistic in nature.
Keep your presidency and give them equity, justice and level playing ground and see them soar.
Igbo enweghi Eze. Find out the meaning
They don't suffer and smile as observed by Fela of blessed memory. So once again, who presidency epp? I know the road leading to Otta in ogun state is as bad as Enugu—Portharcourt road. Lol.
If you know you know, if not, asking is free. And which region don’t want equity, justice, and level playing field?
Who truncated the working system of government that allowed each region to develop at their own pace? Igbos.
Who promulgated the unitary system decree? Igbos
Who killed other tribes leader and usher Nigeria in this chaos of a nation? Igbos
Try to be truthful, who do you think is the genesis of the problem facing Nigeria if not the Igbos?
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Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:13pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
RTSC: Yes, I am voting an Igbo ticket in 2023.
Hopefully running as presidential candidate under the biggest party in Africa- PDP. Clap for yourself, you just found yourself a just cause. Advise your kinsmen on here to also vote for the Igbos in PDP your acclaimed biggest party in Africa. The Yorubas will vote ours in APC and we will meet at the polls. Gracias! |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:09pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
RTSC: As it is right now, there is no Yoruba man or woman alive that can get my vote until 2040.
Even if he is an Angel. There are angels in other places too. Use your vote to help the Igbos instead. They have been screaming marginalization since 1960, don’t you think using your one vote for an Igbo man is a more just cause that using it against the SW?Think about it! |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:07pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
RTSC: It is just a reenactment of the 2015 movie that the South west played for us. The SW actually learnt it from Igbos.
The Igbos played it with Azikwe, Ekwueme, Sylvester Ugoh. The Yorubas only played it once in 2015 and we will continue to play it until it is equals to the number of the SE betrayals.Now do you have any more to say? |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 7:00pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
IamAtikulate: Was Abiola not given a GCFR by the North after murdering him?
Una mumu buttons plenty. Ojukwu was given a national burial after the north massacred 3 million of his tribesmen, what do you call that? In as much as I hate trying to drag the name of Ojukwu into this, but you left me with no choice coz you actually started all this. I’m from Ibadan, they don’t call us Ibadan Mesi Ogo for no reason, that’s coz we know the actual reply to any banter. Continue to speak, I’m here for you boy! |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 6:43pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
xelly: Please give example as I asked. Example not theories that aren't verifiable. If what I wrote aren’t verifiable to you, then you don’t deserve my response coz you should be in the background reading comments on Nairaland. When you have a little knowledge of politics and history, come back here and join the discussion. Can you stop quoting me now? |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 6:42pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
JonDon12: Dem don go dey beg. Dey lick boot. All these useless tribes for Nigeria wey dey contest for presidency, dem no dey shame.? Igbos been marginalised for a long time and still na we be number one for Nigeria. Number one in what? In drug pushing or baby factory! |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 6:38pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
modik: Needless rants!
To be or not to be, almost all roads across the country are bad and death trap irrespective of where the president comes from.
Even kidnappers are on rampage at Daura. So, who presidency epp?
FYI, Igbos are republican in nature... Fix the missing link. And what has being republican in nature got to do with measure of superiority? What is my own with Igbo being a republican and how does that fit into this discussion? What is my own about republican or not? When you know all the roads in Nigeria are bad, why then is it that it’s only the Igbo man that cries most about marginalization? The government is trying to repair the airport runway in the SE, yet you people still cry marginalization that they are trying to close it down? If they don’t repair it you will still complain. |
Politics › Re: 2023: Yoruba elders send message to Buhari over El-Rufai’s presidential ambition by LegendHer0: 6:33pm On Oct 12, 2019 |
xelly: Example of where there's equity and Igbos still complain please. It all depends on your definition of equity. The Igbos have been an appendage or government since 1960, even with the fact that major FG positions was cornered by the then Azikwe, they are still not contented and they killed leaders of other regions to emerge the supreme one. They have been in PDP since 1999 as the ally of PDP and they have alternated around senate president, major government position but they still turn back to blame other people for their undeveloped region. Have you ever gone through the statistics from NBS, do you see each region allocation every month? Why is it that it’s only Igbos that scream marginalization at every moment especially when they are losing the game. Jonathan was there for almost 6years, the Igbos never for once screamed marginalization, infact they had to tell Jonathan to tell the SW to go to hell when the elders went to Jonathan to tell him SW was not featured in the first four position of Nigeria. The tribal bashing against Yorubas by the Igbos then was on Nairaland as an archive. The Igbo man is created not to be satisfied, no matter how hard you try to please him, he will still complain. |