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IPDGP:
Worldly songs in church , how will u justify that to unbelievers

Have you heard an heavenly song before?

phemmyfour:
Comprehension = Zero

I never denied that he attacked all white garment Churches, I said the writer is not any better cos he attacked ALL pentecostal churches.

Learn to recognize personal opinion and stop making a general statement

You need more comprehension.

Go and read what you wrote before disgracing yourself further.

Lovelyn451:
I dey tell u say defiling na church activity u dey ask for branch, I even read one here sometime ago where a prophet defiled a mother and child in ondo.

Oga drop branches.


You say it is as what happens in every white garment churches.

If English no clear u, rephrase.

Senioradvocate:
I don't speak out what I haven't confirmed as I said that's what most of this white garment churches do. There are many white garment churches you doesn't know it exists and the evil things they do, but we the lay men in the society will always justify them to be either cele or Chorubim

You haven't been to 500 white garment churches yet, you speak boldly in lies. MOST.

phemmyfour:
You're not different from him. A man attack your Church but in return, you attacked all PENTECOSTAL Churches. When does his opinion turn to the opinion of ALL pentecostal churches .

But then, SOME white garment Churches are mere shrine. No biblical practice in their dealings

E pain u.


Meanwhile, He attacked all white garment churches.

Senioradvocate:
sanitize ur church and stop complaining, there are so many bad eggs in ur church. Many ritualist are now hiding under white gament churches to perpetrate their evil act. They never stop killing goats, ram and fowls, bad someone in the river 12 midnight etc. They bad women necked midnight in Rivers. I knew a particular man where I once stayed who does these things I mentioned for a living.

By your statements, those things are evil?

That means prophets like Elisha, Elijah, Moses and all were evil...including Oshofa?

Lovelyn451:
do u know? in white garment churches, defiling is part of the church activity

Drop the branch name sir. Where this happened.


Na when Uno drop am issue go dey

sslcrypt:
You correct out of love. None practice I have seen of this church glorifies Jesus. The rituals are inspired by familiar spirit because none of the apostles carried out any of the practice you see in this church. Burning of candles and the use of objects for interacting with the spiritual world is not of God. Let's call a spade a spade.

The pentecostal churches have be infiltrated by the god mormon, where materialistic things are emphasized more.

But glory be to God because he's merciful and gives everyone the opportunity to repent and change their ways. God is merciful and loving,

What do you think the angels are doing in the background when you chant Jesus names and fast?


Or you just think the name of Jesus dey go straight gragra and make things happen?


Una just funny


Y'all will see what will happen to this Ibibio whatever his name is.

IPDGP:
Some white germents are not different from herbalist because of something fetish things they use.
The worst part is when someone of them are having thier Hervest and co. How could u bring dj chicken to come and play in church premises and start playing worldly songs, what are they preaching.
Make o stop here ,,,,,,,,,,

You're very funny.

Isn't that what harvest is about? Go and read your Deut and Exo.

Everything comes to God's house alive and whole.

FxMasterz:
You can just imagine! Many of those guys are cultists.

Nonsense.

FxMasterz:
I already blamed ibiyhome yesterday, remember?

But what he meant by demonic Psalms is understood by me. Just that he used wrong language. Truth is that the Devil uses the Bible to camouflage and deceive people to make them think they're doing the right things since Bible is involved. Do you know that some cults recite Bible verses to do money rituals? The victims are comfortable thinking it's from God.

Read the Bible well before defending things that are not in the Bible. I can talk boldly about these things because I'm well versed in scriptures and know the truth. No man of God anywhere can deceive me.

Again, you're just very ignorant. Go on a research and compare the activities of white garment churches with cult practices, you'll be stunned at the similarities.

Where did they get those practices from? I don't burn candles or do any of those things they do but if I lay hands on you simply praying in the name of Jesus, you'll encounter the power of God. You might even fall under the anointing.

Look, seek knowledge. Loyalty to some church demonination or man of God would not take you to heaven. Religion is useless. Only Jesus saves.

your post reeks of ignorance


But if I lay hands on you...you that still takes Paracetamol for your headaches and fever coming here to rant as usual.


You know nothing about candles nor the deep things of life.

It's not worth it arguing with folks like you.

labake1:
I am like that, life of an introvert
The only friends I have, are my parents and siblings
After reading all sort of books and I couldn't change, I accepted myself that way.
Besides its a peaceful life

There's nothing peaceful about having issues with everyone.


Being an introvert don't make you have issues with everyone.

blueAgent:
My friend MJ is overhyped.

Is simple as that.

No media, was TV invented in MJ era ?

Most of the things you said, are all fallacies.

Craze dey your head boy.

blowjohn:
It does. But hip hop is number 1 genre where lyrical content matters alot cos they rap about too many diverse things. Followed by rock.

Pop is mostly love things na. So wetin Dem want see write.

But I no go comme t of mj thread again o. Una don yab me tire.

Na cos MJ Na boss of all jare


I don't subscribe to insults from fans...but I do understand...MJ was phenomenal....singing across five musical genres


And inspiring today's great superstars

blowjohn:
Em of Old was my favorite. These days em Raps in a fast and wierd way.

Em was good on songs like sing for the moment, superman, renegade with jayz, etc.


This new Eminem be like AI robot

AI robot

blowjohn:
Hmm ok. But shocker for u.....fela attended trinity college of music in london. But that doesn't take anything away frm him sha.


That's why I always implore our today young artists to go to music schools to sharpen their vocal cords and skills.

And No, after Nas, rakim.

NAS himself disagrees with you

blowjohn:
For where?
Let me be king of pop or entertainment.

But pls don't compare him lyrically to Nas o.

I can put out simple Nas lyrics that will blow mj out

Bring it out.


By the way, it seems your idea of lyrically doesn't transcend hip hop.

Hip hop is just a genre in music....MJ sang many genre

blowjohn:
Nas is complex in a simple way.

The rappers who try to be too complex and end up confusing fans are Lupe fiasco, black thought, rakim etc.


Nas has the best use of the English language of any artist of any genre. Make I no quote his verses so that u no go shock.

As for top 2 entertainers.....I'll give Michael Jackson number 1. Shey ur happy now

Other great entertainers are bruce Springsteen, and Elvis Presley and even James brown

That's why I don't rate Jay Z...dude been trying to overcomplicate shit


Ain't nobody have time to be doing research on a simple line


That's why I like EM

blowjohn:
And yes I get ur point. Made a lot of sense. But in hip hop most times the producers , mixers etc do those things while the rapper goes thru his thought processes.

Those artists I mentioned are better than fela o.

Don't forget most British and American or Canadian artists go thru music schools o .

They know all these stuffs.

Music is the language of the universe... it's sound.

Fela senior those guys ....Fela is doing orchestra and jazz...Jazz is the hardest form of music ...They had to go school, Fela don't need it. Born with it.


In hip hop though....After Rakim it's NAS.

blueAgent:
He is overrated.

Except for Sony records who used him and hyped him there is not exceptional about him.
All the things you mentioned, where becos of the hype.

MJ songs were written by other artists, his voice was mostly was enhanced with studio equipment.
His great but 4 me he is overhyped.

Without all the media and hype ,he would not be as great as 19% of what he is.

typical of a Nigerian. Saying things they can't prove.


During MJ career there was nothing like voice enhancement or autotune.

Sony made MJ or MJ made Sony. You clearly have no clue how great a talent MJ was.

Give me one talent Sony made that's on MJ level. After all, if they made MJ they should have made other MJs.


I take it people fainting in MJ concerts were made by Sony as well.


As well as queuing in front of his home just to see him come in.


You are not getting it. There was no media as such in MJ era. Majority couldn't own a TV, yet they know about MJ.

19%....lol...


Sony made Janet Jackson as well I guess...even Jackson 5

ViceGovernor:
Ecclesiastes 9: 5 For the living know that they shall die but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward for the memory of them is forgotten.
As long as portable is alive there is no telling whether he can surpass Mjs popularity and records

There have been many great artists who died and nobody remembered them or their records after some years... everything na time

HE CANNOT.


Take that to the bank.

blueAgent:
I don't support the clown portable.

But for me MJ is highly over rated.

How old are you sir?


MJ existed when there's no SM and had global influence. Hundreds of millions of fans around the world.

That's whom you say is overrated?

Forever opened a global door for people of colour. He's overated.


Have a very powerful singing range, overrated?


Had a MJ dancing style, and inspired millions to adopt his styles. Even begin music (Lil-wayne). Overrated?

Same MJ created a global national anthem through Heal The world? Overated?

Thousands and millions of YouTubers are still making money today teaching MJ dancing styles. Overrated?

Tell me what you mean by overrated.

Liberal democracy, No.


Female freedom, yes.


We don't want another LGBTQ in Nigeria.

blowjohn:
Abi.

Lyrically mike no near plenty artists and bands.

Not too 50 for me lyrically.

Entertainment wise I fit gree say na e be the greatest.


Musically, he and his crew not top 30 for me if I name bands.

But his impact was out of this world no doubt

This means you actually don't know anything about music.


Music is about chords progression, arrangements, melody and harmony.

Can you listen to Thriller and pick out by ear the chords used in them? The different chords used in Elton's Sacrifice and see the beauty in how they are arranged to make sense?

The only thing you talk about is lyrics lyrics. Anyone can come up with poetic lyrics! It doesn't make you a musician.

Now, the ability to write those lyrics on the chords, melody and harmony is what makes you a musician.

A musician is a composer, singer, songwriter, instrumentalists, director, and producer of music.

Now MJ compose songs, writes, plays only piano as an instrument, directs music but do not produce.

That's why I initially said when it comes to being a musician, folks like Prince stands tall above MJ. Prince could play 16 musical instruments at professional level. He wrote. He directed. He sang. He produced. That's a musician.

NAS doesn't do those stuffs.

To give you a perspective of who a musician is, think Fela. That's a musician.

None of the guys in your list comes close to Fela as a musician.

But as an artist most of them supercede him.

You get?

ViceGovernor:
I believe he is right to some extent.
Even the Bible says a living dog is better than a dead lion.

Dead MJ still greater than all Artist alive

blowjohn:
Thank u. Ur assertion is a fair one.
But am inclining towards penmanship ( lyrics)
Those artists I mentioned write better than Michael. Far better.
Infact I'll rank Nas the greatest Lyricist of the last hundred years, of any music genre( CNN already crowned him that).


But if ur talking entertainment wise, I can put him in top 2 or make him the greatest.

Using metaphors don't make you a better lyricist. Neither does using triple entendres.

Simplicity is king.

How many lyrics of NAS can a layman understand?

How many lyrics of MJ can a layman understand?

That's your better artist right there. MJ.

He communicates messages and emotions with ease. MJ was pitch perfect. Hit high and low notes without autotune.


Blood on the dance floor for example. You listen, you know what's he's talking about.

Smooth Criminal. You listen, you get it.

You come to NAS, then you need a book and a pen to understand how each word connects to each other. If there are double meaning and all. That's greatness?

NAS only appeal to people who think life is about making simple things as music difficult to understand. It's not.


Now, you say MJ is top two greatest entertainer of all time.

Who's Number one then? Let's see.

blowjohn:
Oga, lyrically, mj is nowhere near Michael stipes of R.E.M or Bono or anyone I mentioned there.

I have all Mike's albums and lyrics. They are ok but not top tier.



U mentioned Nas. Even many years back, a certain CNN analyst ranked Nas the greatest Lyricist of all time( of any genre).

If u like I can quote 50 Nas lyrics that will make u sit up and start listening to even other artists.
Hope u know Nas lyrics are being studied at Harvard by professors?

I know lyrics frm bands frm the 50s, 60s, 70s, etc to this era.
I know lyrics frm artists that topped charts in UK, America, Australia etc .
Rock, hip hop,blues, soul, bluegrass, indie pop etc.


But I tell u what, no one comes close to Nas.
Am talking about poetic lyrics that will make the great Shakespeare hide his face in utter disbelief.

Like I said, it's just my opinion tho

Lyrics, there are writers.

We're talking about artists.

Ability to make songs that have impact and convey emotions people can relate to.

How many people can relate to the songs of those guys you put up there?

How many people can relate to MJ songs?


Man in the Mirror is evergreen.

Heal the world is iconic


Clearly you don't know what an artist it.

An artist merges emotions with lyrics to make a soulful song. It's becomes a song when anyone can sing it, and it evokes emotions.


These people you mentioned are great at one thing, MJ is great at everything put together.

Like NAS now, he's a Shakespeare of lyrics. And that's just to it. But as simple as the lines in Heal the world is it still beat in message anything NAS can and has put out. That's what being an artist is.

ChristineC:
slightly indeed.
keep playing.
the naira is dead.
you will soon be buying one tuber of yam for 10k.

May you be unfortunate as you wish Nigerians to be unfortunate.

blowjohn:
Prince
Nas
Kurt Cobain
Bono
Bruce Springsteen
Radiohead
Paul Simon
Marvin gaye
Michael stipe
Slash frm guns and roses
Liam Gallagher
Noel Gallagher
Dave grohl
Neil diamond
John Lennon
Paul McCartney
Kate bush
Alanis morrisette
David Bowie
Don everly
Van Halen
Elton John etc



Forgotten some. Wud have put plenty names of bands better than Jackson's crew too, but I wanna stick to solo artists

Lol


Prince is a musician.

As an Artist, Prince is nowhere near MJ.

Same goes for everyone you listed there.


Write, compose and production. m

Wait, NAS is a better artist than MJ?

Which NAS song is greater than Earth Song?

Or Man in the mirror?


You're stretching it man

MJ is the greatest artist of the century.

blowjohn:
At least u agree about the musician part..

Like I said, entertainment wise, perhaps.

Musically, no.
I can name 30 artists better

Artist and musician are not the same thing.

Micheal Jackson remains the greatest artist dead and alive.


Give me a list


Meanwhile, there's nothing like entertainment part. Being entertaining is part of being an artist.

blowjohn:
So someone cannot brag about how great he is as a musician again?

Mj is not even a top 30 artist of all time.

Top 3 entertainers yes.

Dey play.


MJ is the greatest Artist of all time.


When you speak of musician... that's another ball game

YakubuA:
Indeed you are very correct, Yari is only talking about his interest. But see how they keep bashing the north as if the northerners did not vote for Asiwaju. They seems to forget that 63% of Asiwaju's votes were from the north. If the north wanted to retain power they could have done so easily by voting Atiku. Do the Arithmetic and see.
The President is trying to do what he believe is best for Nigeria they should not make him to be like a tribal President else it may cost him 2027 re-election. Majority of the northerners do not talk on social media but be rest assured that they are reading all the comments.

Honestly.

Most Nigerians are just devilish at heart. I suppose the majority pushing this false sense of northern sidelining are from SE.

Too bitter a soul.


The North helped Tinubu became President. Whatever their agreement was prior, quite confident he won't renege.