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The opinion of a single northern man doesn't represent the whole north

Kobojunkiee:
1. Now this seems scattered. Heaven(Eternal reward) was never available to men until Jesus Christ arrived on the scene with the Kingdom of God. And He too made it clear to you that the only ones who can enter into Heaven(Eternal Reward) at the end of the day are those who are His sheep in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 36. He is the King and Judge in the Kingdom of God where Heaven(Eternal Reward) and Hell(Eternal Damnation) are under His jurisdiction. So, are you saying that you are not even aware of this?

2. As for Jesus never mentioning the word "Hell", are you certain, you have ever read through His Gospels for yourself?
Have you ever actually read a book of your own?

3. And so what rule stops the one who made man from dust from transporting that man into a Heaven/Hell which He also made?

How can you say heaven is not available to men until Jesus came?


Where did spirit of Abraham go?

Elijah own?


What about Elisha?


Jesus never mentioned Hell the way you grow up with

In the danger of hell is just a way of saying in the danger of going to the grave early. Because hell is Hades and Hades is grave.


Because he already said it should return to dust. Or you're saying God change his mind often?

Kobojunkiee:
1. If you are referring to Heaven and Hell in the Kingdom of God, then according to Jesus Christ it is the man ---- mind, body, and soul intact--- that goes to either Heaven or Hell - Matthew 25 v 31 - 46.

2. Where do you get this idea that a soul can only go where it comes from though. That is one problem you may want to resolve for yourself there. According to Jesus Christ, all those who are born-again become a part of the Kingdom of God with an end either in Heaven (Eternal Reward) or Hell(Eternal Damnation). So let us know where your idea that the soul cannot go where it did not come from is from.

3. What do you think the Spirit is?

You're the one confusing heaven for the kingdom of God.


Jesus never mentioned hell for once.


It's simple. Man soul is made from dust. From dust it came to dust it shall return.


Even though I'd like to think dust is a separate universe on its own. And that the dust man was made from wasn't what we call dust today.

TradingGod:
there is no point explaining further


Have a nice day

Typical Pharisees. Can't stand questioning from enlightened minds.


It's the same way Pharisees ran away from Christ who questioned their knowledge of truth.

TradingGod:
Do you believe in Lord Jesus?

Believe in him as what?

TradingGod:
the soul came with the body

Before the spirit of God came into contact with the body of man, man had a dead soul


What made the soul alive is the spirit, without the spirit the soul is dead, but a soul can not die since every soul that came from Adam came with their spirit rather when the spirit of man leaves man, the soul follows the spirit, they are now inseparable, it is one of the wonders of Yahweh

When a soul sin it dies mean when the soul leaves the body (physical death) the soul that sins goes to hell because the spirit that the soul has is evil Spirit that is why the soul sins, remember that a soul can do nothing except he is being told by his spirit, so if a soul sin, it is because of the evil spirit behind him

That is why when You give Your life to Christ, You are changing your Spirit from the natural man spirit that is now evil and to Holy Spirit that cimes from Christ

All Christian has the Holy Spirit once You confess your Lordship to Our Lord Jesus Christ but you still need to activate the spirit through knowledge of the word of God so that you can allow the new Holy Spirit in you to guide you in doin right.

It is this Holy Spirit that will allow you to enter heaven else you can not enter heaven with the natural spirit you were born with because that spirit has been corrupted from the beginning so you need the Holy Spirit in your life to enter the Kingdom of Heaven

You made a lot of things up like:

The soul and spirit are inseparable. Are you saying spirit and soul are the same?


A question: is it the soul or the spirit that goes to Hell? Given, according to you, they're inseparable.

How can a soul go to hell or heaven when it didn't come from hell or heaven, but from God?

And lastly, when you say spirit, what do you mean? We know that the body is made up of organic and inorganic materials that forms a hand, eyes, legs and the rest. So what constitutes a spirit?


What constitutes a soul?

We have different outlooks of life.


News is Nigerians hardly die of hunger.

So I wonder where the poverty is coming from.

Kobojunkiee:
I did explain what constitutes the "you" .i.e. man The soul, well, it does not further break down to anything else as it is just that, the soul of man.

2. I never said spirit and body are of clay. Rather, what I said is a man — mind, body, and soul— is made from clay. Spirit isn't made from clay and man has no spirit of his own at his birth. And I say clay, I mean the dust of this world, that is a given.

3. In Scripture, this is written as the fate of the unbelievers... ...those who do not obtain eternal life before the end of this life.

4. According to the owner of Heaven or Hell, only those who are born-again(possess Eternal life) can enter Heaven(Eternal Reward) or Hell Fire(Eternal Damnation) - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. That has to do with the fact that they are no longer just clay of this world but are become spirits as a result of being born-again — obtaining eternal life in this life - John 3 vs 1 - 21.

So the soul is made from clay? Which means the soul returns to be clay, correct?


How could it not breakdown to something else? You really don't know, do you?


What is spirit? That is, what constitutes spirit?

TradingGod:
Genesis 2:7 Then the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath or spirit of life, and man became a living being(soul). [I Cor. 15:45-49.]

The Soul came into existence the moment the spirit of God came into contact with the nostril of man

The spirit needs the soul to function in this world, the soul is the seat of consciousness, that is where the spirit recide.

If you have the Holy Spirit in you, your consciousness will be Holy, i.e Your Soul becomes Holy

The Soul is incharge of obeying the spirit because every soul needs a spirit to obey
The spirit is the eye of the soul, the spirit provide images to the soul to interpret

the soul needs to trust and obey the spirit and do what the spirit is saying but you see Adam went to obey the spirit of the devil through eve by eating of the wrong tree and now because of Adam disobedience, the soul of man is in constant disobedience with his spirit which came from God, rather he obey the spirit of the world doing what the world does while neglecting the spirit of God

Such a Soul is dead already because he does not recognize or listen to the spirit which Gives Life but rather he is listening to the evil Spirit of the world that brings pain, death, shame and misery


This is why Lord Jesus Christ came to die for those dead souls, so that by recivieing Christ and doing what He says. You will be walking with the new spirit that is not of this world but from God and this new spirit is called the Holy Spirit, and it is this Holy Spirit that will tell you what to do that will lead you to a lofe full of Glory, wisdom, life, joy, peace and Divine Blessings Forever

But remember to enjoy this blessings that the Spirit will give, You have to trust and obey His word because most time it might become tough for you to do the Holy Spirit Word due to several temptation or the other but always cheer up knowing that Christ has paid the price of victory for you and so you are victorious irrespective of the things the world trow at you

Where does the soul comes from?


Are you saying from the breathe of God?

Kobojunkiee:
Man, in his entirety---- mind, body and soul--‐ is made from the clay of this world. So what you call soul is made when you are conceived.

What is the Soul? Well, it is that core of you that desires and thrives in life and whatever else. The souk uses the mind to resolve its situation and the body its position.

I can't seem to get your explanation of what a soul is.

In a breathe you said "it's the core of you". So what exactly is "you". What's the constituent of you, and consequentially the constituent of the soul?


In another breathe you said the soul is made from clay. You mention spirit and body being from clay as well. In its entirety of course. Are you saying the Soul is just clay? And by clay, do you mean the same clay we have around today in our modern world?

If so, shouldn't the soul, a clay, return to be clay. Since clay is part of the earth why should it go to heaven or a hell, when that's not it's origin?

Help me understand.

TradingGod:
if you die, where will your soul go to.
Heaven or Hell?

What's a Soul? Let's start from there.

Before we start going to where it goes.


Did the Soul come from hell or heaven?

Where does it come from?

TemplarLandry:
Christianity is a way of life and not a religion. On this premise, they might be right.

It's a religion.


Be confusing yourself with English.

TradingGod:
What is the prerequisite to Enter heaven, is not to give your life to Christ?

When you give your life to Christ it means you have given your Glory to Christ

Is your life not your Glory?

Which of the heavens?

Landowner101:
Here we go again.
Even before the no man's land saga you lots have been like that, I guess you are one of the paid propagandist.

what's paid propagandist?


You mean Chinyere I went to school with in secondary was treated any different in my school because of her name? Or Emeka?


Yen Yen Yen Yen....

Anyone from any part of this country who has lived in SW will tell you Yorubas are the most accommodating tribe in Nigeria.

That's a fact.

What should worry you is why Igbo seem to be the only tribe having problem with their host anywhere they go.

Landowner101:
Igbos aren't hate filled like some evil ronu people, we accommodate and protect every other tribe, so long you are reasonable and law abiding, an igbo man will defend you against his fellow igbo man, so long you are on the right side of the law. I'm currently in the east now, and most yoruba people here are one of the best people to mingle with, I don't know where all this hateful Nairaland yoruba's stay, or are they been paid to dish propaganda for political reasons.

shut up.


Did Yoruba there call Anambra a no man's land?


Una dey pass una lane too much.

Respect your host.

Yet, the Yoruba there do not call it a no man's land.


The difference.

Kajaard:
Who says a woman cannot live without being married? Why is the Nigerian society so toxic towards single women?

Look if you have noticed these signs before marriage, just know that it will continue after marriage as well. If you are really saying the truth about him being very controling and domineering, as well as always listening to his family and you having no say in any decision making, then lady you have a serious decision to make. Cheers.

Are you a woman?

Are you single?


If no, then silence is a better option.

After the tribunal judgement you'll be irrelevant.

Nazgul:
This is serious...so we're screwed.

You're screwed, not we.

internationalman:
I just imagine something.

Imagine after you recently married your wife and both of you were just chilling in the bed when you accidentally glanced through her phone on her hand while she was surfing Nairaland and you saw Soifra as the username at the top of the webpage.

As much as she's notoriously hated here as a feminist and a man hater, what would you do..

I think people like her are a completely different representation of something or someone different in real life than they are on social media..

She might be the coolest chick any guy would want to end up with in real life

that's a guy

blaquebelle:
I believe consuming more of complex sugars is much better than the simple sugars contained in the soft drinks. Atleast they are not broken down and used up as fast as simple sugars that just enter directly into the blood stream. So I think I don't agree with your opinion.

Apart from Semo which is made from processed flour, the rest of the meals you mentioned have starch and an appreciable amount of fiber. It makes one full for longer than when you consume something with processed sugars. That might be why they are better rather than worse as you've pointed out.

I might be wrong tho...

And please can you clarify what you mean by normal sugars? Never heard that term before. Or u mean what we know as table sugar?

For your point on malt, are you saying that because maltose is broken down into 2 molecules of glucose then it makes the sugar double the amount? I think sugar content is measured by what it would yield In the body so its all the same🤔

You're not wrong.


The other dude is just churning out fables

angelEmade:
...the sugar in a plate of semo,amala, akpu, pounded yam, etc. Will amount to about a box of cube sugars. The irony here is that the glucose and other monosaccharides in these drinks are a form of carbohydrates just like the disaccharides in complex sugars like sucrose (normal sugar)
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Although all carbohydrates are reduced to glucose and consequently glycogen which are stored in the liver in complex metabolism reactions in the body, you cannot exactly compare these simple sugars to normal sugars.
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And ironically, the malt we so much prefer to soda drinks contain Maltose which are complex sugars. A molecule of maltose can comparatively yield two molecules of monosaccharides in these soda drinks.
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My point is that starch and carbohydrates like corn syrups and the foods I mentioned up there are much worse than these drinks. And although their intake should be controlled...it would be a futile endeavour if you keep supplementing them with excess starchy foods.
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Malt is not a saviour either.

This in incorrect.

Why bring this nonsense here?


Nigeria is still an African country. No room for LGBTQ here.

bukatyne:


When they say for better for worse, they refer to challenges that life throws at the couple; childlessness, job loss, health challenges, issues from in-laws, special needs children etc.

They are not talking about one of the parties roving mad and becoming a witch/wizard to the other party.

It is this 'marriage is not meant to be perfect ' that enables you men especially to waltz in with stupid behaviours and lack of home training hoping to be tolerated and accepted.

While marriage a might not be perfect because life is not perfect and the challenges I mentioned above, marriage ought to be enjoyed by both parties.

So ask yourself: these behaviours I put up, would it make my spouse enjoy this marriage?

Life is already throwing challenges, why should someone meant to make our lives more beautiful contribute or sponsor the major challenge?

Was she blind before marrying him?


Or you think it's easy for a mother of three to find a husband with no history?


You lots.


Just have the habits of thinking things halfway.

That doesn't make any sense.

Kobojunkie:
1. What I stated is not an opinion but a scriptural fact.

2. I am afraid I do not subscribe to spiritual bullsheet so your kind of maturity is meaningless to me.

3. This has nothing to do with believing anything I have been told but simply understanding that it is necessary to respect context when dealing with ideas, even that which is sin,

It's your opinion. Not a spiritual fact.


Have a nice night.

Kobojunkie:
Sin merely means disobedience of God's Law, and so in order to adopt the idea of sin, you must also adopt God's Law/Contract. Outside of God's Law, the idea of sin is meaningless. Now, God's Law does not state that there are physical consequences of Sin, so stating that there are is of delusions.

That's your opinion and I respect it.

However, I don't live by a book. I'm beyond a book. You can live in a book and that's fine. Even though your knowledge of sin is limited consequentially your spiritual understanding, I still think with time you'll grow into maturity in light.

As long as you don't go about believing everything you've grown with and have been raised in is the truth about spirituality.

Kobojunkie:
Sin has no physical effect defined. I think you are confusing yourself with ideas you have little or no real understanding of.

It does to me. It might not to you. That's fine. That's your experience.

My experience is mine.

There's no hell.


And speaking of Sin, I avoid it because of it physical effect on my wellbeing.

It's stupid to do things that are bad for you.

alobright17:
What’s wrong with the tweet of fact ? Abi truth dey pain you? What’s wrong in atikuing for Atiku ?

Can she say that to Atiku offline.


It's possible disrespecting elders is a norm in your tribe. But that's not a norm in Yoruba land. That Yoruba girl is way out of line.

Atiku is older than his dad I believe.


To think it's a Yoruba girl. You wonder where our culture went. And who in particular raised disrespectful brats as this.


Something is wrong.

Nusooo:
You don't understand me. Mature two people coming together with a consensual agreement and two of them are happy about it
And you are comparing it with sex with a minor, habaa, is it the same thing? Can minors be happy about it?

Who told you it's consensual? You how many kids are being brainwashed into this?

You missed the line of argument by the way.