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mzilakazi:
A country with massive infrastructure is much much better than the one that does have nothing.

If you want to answer my questions you have to follow the rules by raising up your hand and wait till I ask for your opinion.

Now you jumped into the middle and ended up saying nothing.

jln115:
Depends what your talking about, if we're talking about infrastructure then yes!

That's another way of saying NO

jln115:
Dude I didn't grade my country on anything YOU said SA has better infrastructure because of whites not me!
When I said/quoted " South Africa is better because of whites" it was used as a broader term for all the excuses about why South Africa is better than Nigeria in something that you make the whole time for example why South Africa has more Nobel price winners or why South Africa is more technologically advanced

You're just going around in a circle.

Let me ask, does A country having better infrastructure than B country makes country A better than country B?

jln115:
We weren't talking about how developed they are or not we were strictly talking about infrastructure!! Wake up please!!

Your original message is that south Africa is better than Nigeria. You drew inference from my post alluding that infrastructure is what makes south Africa better than Nigeria. I told you if you grade a country solely by infrastructure, that would mean some Arab countries will be better than western Europe, to which you answered yes

When I cornered you with the reality of what you were saying, by reminding you all middle eastern countries are devoloping countries, you resorted to your lame tactics of obscured references.

Too much pap makes one slow.

jln115:
Uhm....Yes!!

All middle eastern countries are developing countries. All eurozone countries are developed countries.

How low are you willing to sink before you admit to your simplistic idiocy? Don't be a jap.

jln115:
Dude you've said it yourself that South Africa has better infrastructure because whites built it, I don't have to point it out when its there for all to see!

So, The UAE has better infrastructure than some countries in the Eurozone. Does that make it better?

Coordinate the left and right sides of your brains when reasoning.

mzilakazi:
Bwahahaha… I really hurt people with telling the truth you know.


http://www.punchng.com/news/over-100-million-nigerians-live-below-poverty-line-osinbajo/

The vice President

You haven't told me what I haven't heard before. Osibanjo made a statement whipping up political sentiment against PDP.

Here's an unbiased figure devoid of any political motive by a world renowned body.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/world-bank-cuts-nigerias-poverty-rate-to-33-1-says-north-is-poorer/184259/

mzilakazi:
You see I prove people wrong fairly well with sources, unlike you.

None of your sources ever supported your unfounded submissions.

I have taken pain to read so many only to discover you don't even read your sources well before posting them.

You labour to prove your self debate worthy, even a be-medalled troll like me had to feel sorry for you.

mzilakazi:
http://www.punchng.com/news/100-million-nigerians-live-in-destitution-world-bank/

From the vice President.

http://www.punchng.com/news/over-100-million-nigerians-live-below-poverty-line-osinbajo/

apologies accepted, no matter how lame it is. You're pardoned

jln115:
Dude I didn't say you said that! But that's what you are implying, and on multiple occasions you said SA has better this or that because of White!

And the rest of your post is just emotional BS.

point me to any of my posts where I said that, please.

mzilakazi:
Demolish it because I am still better for I produce sources for every claim I make, unlike you.

I bet you will also produce sources for 90 million northerners. And produce source for Nigeria's deputy president.

You're a waste of internet data.

mzilakazi:
It is fine about Sacco. I know about him. However, have you realised Nathan Kirsh is also a South African.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Kirsh

how many times have I demolished you with your own source?

mzilakazi:
Population of Northerners is way around 90 million and Nigeria has 62% of people who live below poverty line. I can proof that to you with sources, that is, if you want.


The deputy President of Nigeria confirmed that Nigeria has over 100 million people who live below poverty line. I can also give a source if you want it.

there is no deputy president in Nigeria. Latest World bank statistics says only 33% of Nigeria's are poor.
Saying northers are 90 million is like saying Zulus are 43 million.

mzilakazi:
Nope, I become only happy when we speak the truth supported by documents and not garbage that spills out of our heads.

Nigeria has 5
South Africa has 8.

You fell into my trap like a blind man. The source you quoted less than 3 minutes ago said that billionaire south African by the name of Sacco has been dropped off the billionaire's list. So south Africa is back to 7 billionaires
I have always suspected your imbecility is seasonal

mzilakazi:
In the same way you are accused of collecting your AIDS stats from only Southern Nigeria and use them to reflect the whole Nigeria.

The majority of over 90 million Muslims in Northern Nigeria are poor and uneducated and still Southerners boast large number of people who are poor. Your government gives nothing, that's why there is BH today.

northerners aren't 90 million. Are you suffering pap-,induced dementia?

Only 33% of Nigerians are poor. All south African firms are flying into Nigeria and crash landing because of the speed of anxiety in setting up shops. The north east is still so attractive for even Mr. Wiesel's Shop rite.

Your government feeding 26 million south Africans is an indictment to your laziness and lack of economic engagement. That's the reason South African turn to xenophobia and kill and loot kwerekwere (foreigners) blind. They can't take responsibility for their lives and tell themselves the truth.

The same way, you south Africans on NL can't be honest and know you're just on another xenophobic voyage here to deceive yourselves and tell yourselves you're better.

Let the lady alone. face me.

Where are the sources I asked you?

mzilakazi:
That Nigeria has only five billionaires in contrast to what Lezz is dreaming about when he was suggesting Nigeria has over 20 billionaires.

You can't lead a happy life knowing that Nigerians have more success stories than south Africa. Your happiness depends on Nigeria's woes. You're going to be sad and truly frustrated for a long long time.

Tell us, how many billionaires does south Africa have?

freecocoa:
Yea right, weight and size indeed, so you are saying if it was a fight involving them both, she'd beat freeze up effortlessly?

That's it. It wasnt a fight. It was an attack

She used to beat him up frequently to have resulted in that much injury and evrytime she did, he got hold of a camera and took snap shots? I see the sense and truth in that.

So , he inflicted those injuries on himself and accused the wife for it? What is what telling is what telling well, the camera will suffice. Few would have believed his story by word of mouth only. He was indeed smart to have the tact of substantiation with pictures

How is she pitching them against their dad?

By claiming Freaze wants to send her and the kids away to pave the way for another woman. Obviously looking for sympathy. Classical women's selfish act of telling the children " your daddy rejected you".

What does he hope to achieve with the pictures and comments about her? I really wonder how some of you mean reason sometimes? How many men do you know that aren't handicapped that can take such battery from a woman, yourself included?

Maybe, there was intervention from friends or maybe she's just too powerful and out muscled him completely with those sturdy frame of hers.

I thought there are no physical or psychological difference between a man and a woman.

RudzSA:
u wudnt tel the truth even if yo grandmother was dying .verbal-slaps?lol ... U a joke . U a kwerekwere ..none of us take u srsly. We South Africans, u incapable of being better than us in anything unda the sun

And you can't speak properly even if it were the only criteria to reclaim your grandfather's land from the Boers

You south Africans have rejected truth and fact. Derided BBC and CNN. Rejected ISS report.

What is left is my acidic vitriol. But I will be kind enough to add humour and facts for your entertainment.

freecocoa:
So who is lying now?

I just don't understand how Freeze expect us to believe his wife gave him all that much injury.

Hmn, another cheap and bias judgment. Women are known to even kill their husbands physically. Taking a look at their pics, you will see the wife has weight and size going for her against the husband.

Also notice how in her statement, she has already started the crusade of pitching the children against their father in public. Women-- most are forever senseless and devilish.

FEMINISM IS AN EVIL THAT APPEALS TO THE SELFISH LITTLE GIRL IN EVERY WOMAN. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT : ME ME ME ONLY

mzilakazi:
It is not BBC, it is world bank. BBC only wrote the news which thrived from World Bank report that Nigeria's poverty rate has sky rocketed to 62%.

do you want sources of how south African universities shot down and students were asked to go home on the middle of the semester because of shortage of clean water?

mzilakazi:
[s]

Bwahaha… If the ANC helps 16 million people with everything free out of 50 million people giving them $150 every month, then it means our poverty rate is far better than yours. Nigeria's government cannot do anything for you.

The ANC spends $5 billion every month to feed the poor and give them grants. So, how much does your government spend every month to feed the over 100 million poor people in your country?

[/s] learn to follow instructions. This isn't what I asked you.
Your claims yesterday was this :

[/quote]Lezz tell me does your government do any of these and if not, then poverty is worse in Nigeria than in SA.

1. Do they give the elderly monthly pension of about $150?
2. Do disabled and terminally ill get monthly grant of $150?
3. Do your children under the age of 18 get child grant every month?
4. Do you have food parcel programmes that give hampers to the destitute every month?
5. Do you build free houses to the poor?
6. Is your education free?
7. Do you give school feeding scheme?
8. Do you have free running water supply, I dont mean boreholes?
9. Do you have sewages and electricity?
10. Do you give free solar geysers to the poor?

In terms of HIV.

1. Nigeria does not have reliable HIV stats till todate as confirmed by UNAIDS.
2. Nigeria does not give free health care
3. Nigeria does not give free ART for those infected with the virus.
4. Nigeria does not give free food parcels and grants to those who have HIV and are poor.

Every poor man in SA get all the above mentioned free of charge. If Nigeria does not give that then Nigeria has more poor people than SA.[quote]

I want you to prove every last one of that wish list you call ANC programmes for destitute south Africans.

mzilakazi:
Bwahahaha… Nigeria has only five billionaires


http://www.forbes.com/sites/mfonobongnsehe/2015/03/02/the-african-billionaires-2015/


You produce only 3000mw of electricity.


http://newsng.com/nigeria-news/2015/05/electricity-supply-drops-to-3000mw/

http://dailytrust.com.ng/daily/business/35596-nigerian-electricity-stagnant-at-3000mw


http://www.nigeriapowerreform.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1471:failure-to-move-on-gas-keeps-power-generation-stuck-at-3-000-mw&catid=35&Itemid=337


I WILL CONTINUE TO DEFEAT YOU WITH FACTS SUBSTANTIATED BY SOURCES WHILE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE WILL BE USING OPINIONS.

Mzilakazi, Mzilakazi, Mzilakazi, I called you three times in order to get your attention, for you have the attention span of a squirrel.

This billionaire numbers have been settled once and for all last week with Henry120 making the final submission with admissible and indisputable fact backed by sources of repute.

Forbes lists billionaires whose net worth of company is registered with a firm or company name. Individuals who are not traced to or used a different anonymous names for their companies are not listed on the Forbes list. I have dropped numerous sources on this. According to Forbes list of billionaires, South Africa has only 7, but we know they are now on par with Egypt at 8. Forbes doesn't have that.

Nigeria on the other hand has 22 billionaires up from 20 last year. I have dropped numerous sources on this, even the one from BBC.

I have resolved never to open any source you submit here. When you opine any fact, I will respond appropriately.

You always drop sources in the hopes they will never be open and read. You have done this several times. Only yesterday, you lied against Nissan Nigeria which opened a plant in Nigeria last year. You brought a source of 2009 which was saying a completely different story. I called you to it but you run away like a disturbed toad and never apologized or corrected it.

Well, it could be you're a fraud with glass for heart. Or you just can't comprehend what you read, worst still, it could be a combination of both.

Deep down , i beleive combining nairaland to your studies is too much mental exertion for your tiny brain

[s]

Patchesagain:
I dont care about your opinion - I want to see facts that substantiate your argument.

What facts do you have to support your claims?

Show me

[/s] What I have come to understand in your persona is you always hide your defeat under the demand of proof and sources when you're beaten completely.

Do you need proof that you have never agreed to any proven fact on this thread?

Waste not pearls on pigs . I'm not wasting my resources in providing sources for naira land's Prince buffoon

Your idiocy is robbing off greatly on the demented, degenerate, mzilakazi.

RudzSA:
how u selectively pick "lies" from South Africans nd not that village id1ot lezz is shocking.

feel free to ask me for substantiation of my assertions instead quoting me indirectly like a frightened kid.

I will always deliver verbal-slaps to all south African reps on this thread. The Europe's scums to Africa's rejects.

jln115:
You just cant stop with the excuses can you Mate? "South Africa is better because of Boers" "Whites did this, Whites did that" "South Africa has better infrastructure because of White"......You Sir have a major inferiority complex towards Whites!!!!!!!!! and BTW a South African is a South African regardless of colour, and the Fact is we are better than you!!

you're just another comprehension-destitute.
Where did I imply south Africa is better than Nigeria because of an itinerant, bloodsucking Afrikaner?

Everything about south Africa is one massive failure. 8 million Afrikaners chased 30 million blacks away and used their resources of gold and diamonds for themselves. They are going to be rich but how long do you think this was going to last ?

Majority rule of incompetent blacks and the few frightened Boers who still have economic leverage but live in uncertainty have made south Africa a nation of confused lots .

South Africa is a mixed bag of frightened Boers whose greed and avarice caught up with them on the wrong side of the world ,andBlack southies who have known nothing all their lives but brutality and operession and servitude have hauled south Africa back to the 16th century.

Your army, air force and navy are replacing brains for skin colour. White Afrikaners are all over the globe as soldiers of fortune and you're telling me horseshit about not racially profiling south Africa.

European settlers or not, read up Argentina's demise. That's south Africa's road map. Zulu buttlicker you are.

Nigeria looked you in the face in 1976 and demanded you fall into line. It hasn't change in 2015.

ddami:
. and to think somebody was boasting of Eskom in Nigeria I was just laughing in Spanish....,,

They don't know that Nigeria's power system has so many dimensions to it including CABALISM, SPIRITUALISM, VANDALISM,

some Nigerians will sooo frustrate eskom in a nigerialistic manner.....

don't mind these south Africans. They are all crooks who twist facts with a little truth to paint the most obscure image of reality. That's why I got angry and stop posting on military related matters. This guy's add one fact, then mix it up with a swam of halftruths and lies and confuse everybody.
Eskom has no business in electricity distribution in nigeria. It only won a contract to supply GSM cables to nitel some years ago.

Trust these aimless southwest to paint the picture for you.

DictatorZAR:
Once again the ramblings of a village dweller on display.

The only whips you'll apply is to your boyfriend who awaits your b@utthole daily.

You are really pathetic and childish, any answer me is this you

you keep recycling that stale picture three times in a row in your ppsts. What's wrong dictatorzar? Your malnourished brains can't expand anymore?

You can't draw from your destitute improvised bank anymore?

Your brains would only be useful to catch bird droppings or given to maggot to evolve in an endless circle of waste and stink.

child of a harsh disillusionment .

mzilakazi:
Nigeria has over 100 million poor people as confirmed by the President and World bank.

Nigeria produces only 3000MW and that means their hospitals supposed only to be working under a moon light.

SA has 3X more billionaires and Millionaires than Nigeria as confirmed by many sources including Forbes.

South africa has only 8 billionaires. Nigeria has 22. You're still a student . Your 2cm elasticity brain can't carry the weight of this thread.
Shoosh now!!! Don't you have homework to do?

We have used 5,000mw of electricity to power Africa's biggest economy and put the entire continent on the world map.

You have used 45,000mw to generate poverty and only 8 billionaires whilst Nigeria has 22.

We have used generators to power nairaland which is Africa's largest online community.

We have used 3,500mw to produced nollywood that grosses 600/800 million dollars a year. And is the 2nd largest in the world.

Your 45,000mw has sent you scurrying to Mozambique and Namibia for electricity.

Run along, child. You have nothing new to say.

mzilakazi:
Nigeria is what our children use as an example of poorly developed country today at their schools.

South africa has become our textbook example for poverty, hiv, xenophobia, inequality, rape and the longest known slavery in human history.

mzilakazi:
Lezz tell me does your government do any of these and if not, then poverty is worse in Nigeria than in SA.

1. Do they give the elderly monthly pension of about $150?
2. Do disabled and terminally ill get monthly grant of $150?
3. Do your children under the age of 18 get child grant every month?
4. Do you have food parcel programmes that give hampers to the destitute every month?
5. Do you build free houses to the poor?
6. Is your education free?
7. Do you give school feeding scheme?
8. Do you have free running water supply, I dont mean boreholes?
9. Do you have sewages and electricity?
10. Do you give free solar geysers to the poor?

In terms of HIV.

1. Nigeria does not have reliable HIV stats till todate as confirmed by UNAIDS.
2. Nigeria does not give free health care
3. Nigeria does not give free ART for those infected with the virus.
4. Nigeria does not give free food parcels and grants to those who have HIV and are poor.

Every poor man in SA get all the above mentioned free of charge. If Nigeria does not give that then Nigeria has more poor people than SA.

If you really want me to answer that question, you wouldn't have gone off on a tendril. In a simple answer to your question is YES and NO.
Nigeria is a federation with state having a great deal of autononmy . in Imo state of Nigeria, education from primary to university is free.

In all other States, education is free to the secondary school level. HIV and TB patients are ABSOLITELY FREE Nation-wide.

We don't give feeding schemes in schools here.I understand the ANC introduced the feeding schemes as a lure to keep Zulus in school who are more keen on drugs and violence than learning. Fact!!!

Delta state of the south south region, have a programme of free antenatal and delivery every for all pregnant mothers and post natal clinical for everyone. It isn't restricted to only those from the region.

The NHIS (national health insurance scheme ) is another project to tackle other health related logistics.

Now I have answered in your questions summarily and as honest as I could.

I want you to give me a source of everything you have claimed. Because S.A has 85% blacks who can't make it beyond poverty. Khayelitsha residents of over 400 thousand people live with their faeces. Fact!!!
Xenophobic looting and stealing of foreigners goods and property laughs at every claim you just made.

For a fact Julius malemo of the economic freedom fighters claims that the ANC has 16 thousand people who they give grants in various forms so that they can never be voted out.

No doubt this is your definition of richness.
Omo Zulu.

Patchesagain:
Everything i said is a fact and has been backed up with citation in this thread

Not a single statement of yours has any factual grounding.

What gives me joy is that not only I know this, but you know this.

In about 5 min I am going to go to sleep, and I will sleep happy knowing these facts - that South Africa, in every conceivable measurable way is superior to Nigeria.

And you, sitting there frantically banging away on your keyboard know this as well, somewhere deep inside of you it burns, a painful flame in your consciousness - its what drives you to make these hateful little posts, its what fixates you on the Zulu people. You can pretend it isnt there, you can tell yourself its untrue, sometimes I am sure you can even manage to convince yourself that it is untrue.

But yet, it comes back - and it will allways be there, burning away.

You can argue, make up statements, do whatever you want. It doesnt change anything and it never will change anything.

I know, and you know, that South Africa is utterly and completely superior.

lol lol lol, Of everything I have thought about patrick, I never thought you could be this emotionally philosophical. A long post of blurred submission laced with emotions for facts.

The problem with you south Africans is grand illusion. You push the pre1994 south Africa on our noses, you give us false or obscure statistics. When apartheid existed , the south Africa that was showcased to the world was ok, it only had racism as a spot on its stainless posterior.

Then after 1994 the anc stepped into power and the everything started falling apart in a full sweep.

Patrick, I want you to look me in the eye and tell me blacks are not complaining that apartheid whites managed the economy better.

Look me in the eye and tell me , many white military personnel and pilots didn't flee south Africa after zulus came in.

Tell me your infrastructure and institutions are not collapsing. Tell me your education system isn't a shadow of itself .

Every stride of of the boers, every city built by the boers , every infrastructure erected by the afrikaners were overwhelmingly outstripped by the slums and ghettos of zulus. Jo burg witness open defecation and street pissing.

Soweto became the biggest rat infested slum on earth with faeces at every turn. The government in a frantic effort of self consciousness tried to cover soweto with a sugar coated facade. But the city of khayelitsha emerged as the second biggest ghetto in africa and giant rat had consumed human babies on more than 3 occasions. No where else in africa is this happening.

The sugar coated facade of soweto melted away on a sunny revelation of pretense and hypocrisy. Open toilet with faeces running over are common sight.

You lost the top economic spot to us. Pre 1994 south Africa accounted for 40% of the gdp of sub Sahara africa. Today it isnt up to 25%. You have lost that sport to us. South africa used to account for more billionaires in africa. Today she trails Nigeria almost 3 to 1.

Your manufacturing is decreasing as is your FDI.

Everything In south africa is a pretence. No one tells himself the truth. You coloured and black south African are self deceivers and pretenders. When you inherited a white owned and built south africa, and merged it with your backwater slum of soweto, you ought to have remained low keyed and faced the task ahead of a unified south africa. Instead, you let yourself believed the nonsense and baseless hype of "rainbow" nation. Shiit hit the fan and Nigeria tool you by shock.

You resisted our newly founded economic statistics. For month you claimed it wasn't true. I am talking from statements from your tact less government officials who are barely literate enough to use diplomacy.
You had to stoop to bride just to host a world cup to carry on the deceit and self made hypes.

Remember when I first wandered into this thread, I was quite innocent. I made a very humbled and pain submission which I shall quote : " if south Africa and Nigeria were to engage in a full scale war, it would probably end in stalemate, none of the two countries had the economic viability to prosecute a full scale war expecially one in a far away country".

I got 5 "likes" and 6 "mentions". The mentions were from zulus who were slaves, who hadn't finished adjusting from hauling spears to using automatic weapons telling me I was myopic.

That unleashed the troll in me, that unlocked the naked facts I have been covering with false civility.

South africa is a dying nation. Every analyst from Prague to Paris has predicted it.

When you awaken from your sleep, you will arise to reality and acknowledge that what befell Argentina in south America is south Africa's very fate.

ddami:
lezz, you always know the perfect way to reply dictatorzoo...
he will soon go on another 1month exile...

dictatorzar thinks he is a European because his forebears served the afrikaners the longest.
Dictatorzar is a cheap jack from soweto from a lineage of butlers and cleaners.