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Kobojunkie:
So what part of that do you not understand?

The part that He tells you exactly what God Himself declared through Isaiah, Jeremiah, and even Ezekiel, that He alone will Teach His followers.. That job does not belong to any man.

Or the part where He states clearly that His followers should never install themselves as teachers/rabbis etc over His own?

Kobojunkie:
You claim to belong to Jesus Christ so how can you ask me to be a teacher to you when Jesus Christ said that He alone is the Teacher to those who are His followers?

Kobojunkie:
Again....

Kobojunkie:
You are the one who preaches doctrines that contradict the very teachings of Jesus Christ, the Word(Spirit) of God.

If Jesus Christ, the one you claim to believe in. instructed you to do as He did, yet you refuse to obey Him, How can you claim He lives in You? Is He a liar?

Kobojunkie:
Oh, you only believe the person of Jesus Christ as you were probably told of by your pastors but you don't believe in His teachings, even though it is one of His many commandments you has to obey in order to be saves from Death, and be gifted with eternal life(grace upon grace) instead?

So, if only the one commandments was all you had to obey, why did the Gospel of John continue "meaninglessly" for an additional 18 chapters?

Kobojunkie:
To believe is to believe Jesus Christ is who He says He is. To who believe in Him are redeemed from the condemnation of sin(Death, not sin itself) and granted instead with eternal life but without a guarantee of Heaven. John 3 vs 16-21.

To accept(trust) and obey is to submit, mind, body and soul to the obedience and carrying out of His commandments in all-wise. Those who accept and obey His teachings are called Sons of God for they are no longer slaves to sin but Children of God and to this Jesus Christ declared that He will live inside of. It is to these that the Kingdom of Heaven is promised for they do the Will of the Father in Heaven. John 8. John 14-16.

Mystery? The Truth of God arrived over 2000 years ago and spoke His Truth to the nations. If you still do not know the Truth of Jesus Christ as He spoke it over a millennia before you were born, I suggest you get to reading The Gospels to learn truth for yourself. No one else can help you get into Heaven.

Kobojunkie:
To believe is to believe Jesus Christ is who He says He is. To who believe in Him are redeemed from the condemnation of sin(Death, not sin itself) and granted instead with eternal life but without a guarantee of Heaven. John 3 vs 16-21.

To accept(trust) and obey is to submit, mind, body and soul to the obedience and carrying out of His commandments in all-wise. Those who accept and obey His teachings are called Sons of God for they are no longer slaves to sin but Children of God and to this Jesus Christ declared that He will live inside of. It is to these that the Kingdom of Heaven is promised for they do the Will of the Father in Heaven. John 8. John 14-16.

Mystery? The Truth of God arrived over 2000 years ago and spoke His Truth to the nations. If you still do not know the Truth of Jesus Christ as He spoke it over a millennia before you were born, I suggest you get to reading The Gospels to learn truth for yourself. No one else can help you get into Heaven.

Kobojunkie:
Where did Jesus Christ, the one you profess to believe in, tell you that you bear fruit by observing ordinances and traditions of what you call the "church of Christ"?
Jesus Christ never commanded you to gather in what you call your "church of Christ" and He warned you vehemently against adopting the doctrines and traditions of men.

_{** substituted from another Bible translation for better understanding of what is impacted}

Jesus Christ commanded you against the following of ordinances and traditions of men, which He concluded were lies meant to deceive and rob you of the power of God in your lives and render meaningless your worship of God. Why do have such a terrible time trusting Jesus Christ's own words to you?
So, according to you, Jesus Christ is a Liar since according to Jesus Christ, it isn' those who believe in Him that He lives in but instead those who accept(trust) and Obey His teachings that He abides in.

Are you sure you should be telling anyone of Jesus Christ if as it is, you refuse to accept and obey Him, openly mind you, choosing instead the doctrines and traditions of men, lies, as your own truth?

Jesus Christ never commanded you to build anything for Him or in His name so what exactly are you building? Of what meaning is your building when it is built on lies of men, sand that can never hold against the Word of God?

Kobojunkie:
You don't even know the Spirit of God because you don't even accept (trust) and obey the teachings/commandments of Jesus Christ which He, Jesus Christ, told you is the characteristics of those who are His followers. Only those who abide(trust and obey His commandments) in Him, will He abide in, and He and the Father will make their home in- those are the Truth as revealed by Jesus Christ Himself.

If you do not even do what Jesus Christ commands, what makes you think that you are an "insider" as far as Jesus Christ is concerned?

OR are you suggesting that Jesus Christ lied?

Kobojunkie:
How does any of this address my earlier response? Or are you trying to take your rejection of the teaching of Jesus Christ on my person?

Kobojunkie:
What is "special" about doing that which Jesus Christ never commanded of anyone of you to do?

Jesus Christ commands His followers to hide away from the eyes and ears of others when they pray to His Father.

Yet, in direct disobedience to the very teachings of Jesus Christ, 10's of millions of those who claim to believe in Jesus Christ troop, every week, to pray exactly against the commandment of Jesus Christ. So tell me, what is it that is "special" about the deceit that many of you practice?

Kobojunkie:
it is just a freaking day, like any other day.

Antoeni:
WHEN THE CHURCH BECOMES A BUSINESS

1) Pastors function like CEOs
2) Members are turned into customers
3) Other churches are seen as competitions
4) Evangelism is reduced to marketing
5) Church planting looks more like franchising.

6) Numbers are primary measure of success
7) Prayer and Word study are replaced by formulas
Revival is reduced to a few days fund-raising
program
9) Preaching sounds more like motivational speech. All the people do is shout "I receive, Amen," throughout the concert. I mean the "service".

10) Praise and Worship is turned into a
performance. The best actors are made the worship and praise leaders.
11) The Spirit of God is reduced to "emotionalism". No real power of God other than hypnosis and sensationalism.

12) The saints are entertained instead of equipped
13) Disciples of Christ have become papa's sons, daughters and fans.
14) The Church, a living Body has now become a lifeless body
15) A leader's empire is built instead of the
Kingdom of God advanced
16) The pastor becomes the super man and Jesus Christ reduced to just another religious figure.

jesusjnr1:
Weekend I guess.