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Agbegbaorogboye:
You're usually having difficulty staying on point
Was it legal or illegal for Ajimobi to pull down the building? Public feeling is not legality.

You write a lot but show lack of depth in understanding. When caught out of point, you delve into something else.

Can you explain the due process and democratic norm involved in pulling down a legislative institution as compared to a private building?

Let me cure your ignorance again. It is even far easier for a governor to pull down a government building than a private one because as the head of govt, he retains the right of interest and right of ownership over the building. A private building is more complex because while the gov has the right of ownership in respect of the land which gives him the right to pull down the building, the right of interest is not exclusive to him. He can easily get sued by the property owners while NO ONE can sue him in the case of a government building.

I hope you will not come at me with more poorly thought out excuse. The bottom line that you deliberately chose to be blind to is that the house was bombed. The structural experts concluded to the gov that the House did not meet structural integrity.
The gov demolished it based on professional advice and another is being built in its place.

The rest is just your prejudice out of hate and bile
Same Wike even pulled down another state's building in Rivers as gov, Bayelsa state to be exact. Oya com and make excuse for him.

Always trying to mask Ur mischief with tautological and logically inept analogies.....you brought ajimobi into this and I already infered on the political incorrectness of that move,I am not the courts to declare anyone's act illegal but I reserve the right to infer that such indiscriminate acts by govs is wrong and fubara all ready crossed the line with those who reason like me.

I have rhetorically infered this but I reckon I have basic comprehension issues or just being downright mischievous.

Whalis:
Many of us seem not to know what is happening. The government wants petrol to sell above 1500/l. This is the only way they won't have budget deficit. Anything less as Dangote is trying to help out is anti-government but pro-people. He will be fought with anything available including using government agencies.

Conspiracy theorist in chief....just pull bunkum out of Ur anus and start spreading myopic narratives.....sad thing is there are many headless buffoons out here who would swallow your cock and bull story hook, line and sinker.

Agbegbaorogboye:
There's already a thread on Wike's demolition in Abuja but you're intentionally blind to see it by your hypocrisy. Go there and tell us how Wike is a bad man. You didn't open this thread. You saw it and came here to express your bile against Fubara
If you don't know things stop arguing about them. The gov is empowered to demolish any building he deems fit especially in public interest. Or where did you think Ajimobi got the power to demolish Ayefele's house among other examples. Stop with the willful ignorance and hypocrisy. The 1978 land use act gives govs such powers. If you think it's an abuse of power, go to court. Fubara did not commit any sin. The sin only exist in the ignorant imagination of zombies

Your infantile attempt at clutching at straws..... leaving the main issue and beating around the bush......that singular act by ajimobi was one of the major causes of his political degradation.....the people of oyo state frowned at it and made it clear.....why didn't rivers people do same to Wike?

As disdainful and manifest abuse of power as these govs mentioned acts are,I will continue to say that even as you deliberately refuse to reckon just to push your saint fubara analogy which is infantile at best,pulling down a whole legislative institution and critical arm of govt without due process and proper recourse to democratic norms can't be same as pulling down private property,there is absolutely no excuse to wish away such sacrilege, couldn't even provide adequate alternatives for them to carry out their constitutionally assigned roles all because he was scared of being impeached.

LagosOrigin:
.it's worse in Lagos especially during rainy season

Benin is worse,I bet you haven't experienced it before.....the entire city practically grounds to a halt when it rains......sign of obaseki's failure,he should have consolidated on oshiomole's storm drainage projects he did but for political vindictiveness he abandoned it.....benin would have gone a long way in arresting this menace "Benin noh be Lagos " wailers,how far?

Agbegbaorogboye:
Let me even assume for the sake of argument that you're right that the gov does not have the right to demolish any building(you're wrong though. Check the land use act), how come only fubara's action that you have a problem with?

I checked the thread where Wike supervised the demolition in Abuja yesterday. I didn't see you there to condemn him yet you're here sitting in judgement over a demolition that happened in 2023 which the building is being rebuilt by the same gov

And you think I'm the one who is displaying anti-Wike psychosis? What do we call your barefaced hypocrisy?

Start your own thread on wike's demolition exercise and let us come share our views.....fubara's clown show is what's being discussed here!!

There is no way the land use act would enable any gov demolish any property by shear without due diligence and you won't be able to contest it in court.....atleast I am certain not in a democracy.... however I agree that govs can go overboard here in Nigeria but it's gross abuse of power which for me is fubara's major sin.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Can you show me and police report in public domain on any issues of your choice?

Can you show me any structural report. In public domain in any building demolished in any state of your choice?

I hope you won't start gasping now

Nobody is asking you to believe Fubara. You already know what you support and why? No be una?

Now it's SC judgement you want to run towards

Abeg rest. You're not making sense

You obviously are a bot or something psychotic anti Wike propagandists......I remember inferring just 2 posts away that because,it's a norm in Nigeria doesn't make it right for any gov to order demolition of any property just by a whim,that should be commonsensical and plain enough for anyone with a head to comprehend.....fubara did it for you to jerk if in today, someone else could do it to make you cry tomorrow then we keep going round in circles .....I would never support illegality for political correctness or oiling my ego.....fubara erred by demolishing that building.

Kaycee9242:
No sensible Nigerian is in support of this illegality

Speak for yourself.....the moment you realise and accept the fact there are always more than one side to any issue and every one has a right to their opinion and believes the better for you.

Agbegbaorogboye:
You're not objective. If you are you will find out the right info before picking a side.

You were never aware that the building was bombed. You were not aware that the gov visited the building and said he'll send structural engineers to check the level of damage. You were not aware that as at 2022, the lawmakers were already complaining of the dilapidated nature of the building. You're just headlessly defending Wike and accusing fubara.

Suddenly you remember what is right and not. So what do you have to say to Wike who just went and demolished people's houses in Abuja.

So in your mind now, the police and structural experts are supposed to give you their reports as you're who again?

So what do you have to say since the building is already 80% complete? In less than 2 years of being rebuilt

I can't stand reading your response beyond the first paragraph.....you are obviously biased on this and have chosen to oppose thale otherwise no matter what.......I have asked for the report on the bombing incident from police and the structural integrity test which should be public information but you haven't been able to provide it...... telling me to believe anything fubara says like he isn't a typical Nigerian politician.....you call me subjective when I have gone as far as inferring that both parties erred on this matter and I not supporting the SOE and suspension.....if you can't see and accept fubara's errors even the SC asserted then you are among those who have led fubara to his downfall.

Quarterpast:
They have induced these ones with small money

Those who live in glass houses don't throw stones.....there is no point fighting a battle you gain nothing if you win...... Natasha brought this on herself,let her stew in her own juice."he who brings in any infested wood, should be ready for the battle of ants"

Now the vultures are gathering, remember she is an opposition senator even in her own state and who isn't in the good books of the govt over there too.....there is need for leaders to be circumspect and choose their battles wisely.....look what zelensky has done to Ukraine.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Go and ask the police who bombed the house. It is their responsibility to fish out the bombers. Stop asking foolish questions from the wrong quarters.

Fubara invited structural engineers who certified the building unfit for use. What I've noticed is that a lot of zombies are not even well informed about what happened in Rivers. They just jump on the bandwagon of the Wike team even with their ignorance just because they feel Wike is on the side of Tinubu.

To further buttress your ignorance, yes sir. The gov can wake up and declare your building unfit for human use and have it pulled down. It seems you've just been born and now unaware of how many buildings have been pulled down by govs in Nigeria including Wike himself. Even as FCT minister he's still pulling buildings down.

I'm sure you're intentionally blind to that cause it suits your bias. Trifling cornarians

Because it's the norm doesn't make it right.....I have got no sympathy for fubara but I don't totally support the SOE and suspension....I did rather be objective than otherwise.....where is the police report,where is the report from the supposed structural engineers,their names and offices?

Both sides erred on this and I tell you fubara really made a very poor decision by demolishing that building.....that's an institution that should be respected and upheld for the survival of democracy we all hold dear......he kept wrapping himself in chains spite his nose to save his face,now look where he has ended.

Agbegbaorogboye:
I don't know why you guys chooses to have selective amnesia out of hate for a particular individual who has done you nothing wrong.
The House was bombed. That's the fact. And given what we all now know about its dilapidated state, only a knucklehead will still insist on counting it as on of the sins of Fubara

Bombed by whom,how and to what end.....will I go and bomb my own house where I have kept my arsenal to fight my enemy......who carried out the investigation,who certified the building unfit for use.....do you mean to tell me fubara could just wake up one day and declare your house unsafe and set for demolition.....this was fubara greatest undoing in this whole matter that tilted public opinion from same civil minds to the side of the assembly members......not ignorant chest beaters cum street mob who are only being sentimental cos of their hatred for Wike.

kmst:
You can insult him for all you want he is not my uncle
But you see, he won't resign that's where you underrated him
He is not Ambode a Yoruba man!
At all

Tinubu can extend until 2027 let's see where that takes him

Dey play..... ordinary SC judgement see the way he was recanting like a criminal caught with his loot....... thought he was brave heart.....a cat thinking itself a lion.....fubara is toast already and he has lost this one.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Was Lagos HOA or Westminster or Capitol bombed?
White House was rebuilt after it was burnt. What am I saying self, Westminster building was rebuilt after the London fire in 1834.
You're simply a poor student of history
What about the notre dame cathedral that is centuries old that read rebuilt in France after destroyed by fire in 2019?

Rivers HOA was bombed by whom? I guess u mean to say by the members who were getting set to impeach fubara......you can't fool everyone if you decide to do so to urself.

kmst:
He didn't guff
He magically prevented his impeachment by a drunkard from Abuja
After all Tinubu can only do 6mnths emergency he will be back
No one can take that away from him
Better to lose 6mnths than be impeached forever and not that it was for good of Rivers, all because of wike

Better to die a full man than die half a man.....do you know how much fubara would have to compromise if your analogy were to be the eventual outcome at the end of 6 months which I really doubt....he is already badly incapacitated politically and would be forced to resign......in this kind of battle you don't give your enemy a second chance especially when you already have him for the kill......fubara should man up....he fought as a man but lost this dick measuring contest because that's all this fight is and nothing more.

Griffon:
Wike masterclass. You can’t take it away from him.

Fubara was to dumb not to have preempted this outcome....it's obvious our bereft he is of political sagacity.

chuose2:
Ignore that drug baron.

When there was chaos at lekki gate,did they replace the governor?

when speaker of house of assembly and ex-speaker of house of assembly dey fight, did they replace the governor?

You people would always turn logic on its head just to further buttress Ur lack of intellectual capacity to fathom even the most basic things.....how can u compare what happened at lekki toll gate which only took only a few days to that of Rivers which has been brewing for years with nothing but anarchy as the obvious end game......are you only trying to be downright mischievous or just lack cognitive capabilities.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Na fubara dey mind God of zombies

The lies are for their zombies to propagate. Fubara shouldn't pay them any attention. Sane Nigerians know the person who has threatened to put fire in states and even said if they blow pipeline, he'll blow Nigeria
Zombies are just intentionally daft cause that's the only way they can be zombies

You go explain tire.....very lame excuse by the fubara spokesman.....why demolish the HOA,obaseki did same and got away with it.....it's an aberration that should never be allowed to happen.....London Westminster building,US capitol,russian duma have all been standing for centuries....Lagos HOA was totally rebuilt without having to tear down the old one thereby ensuring smooth operations of their activities......fubara goofed and he brought home ant infested wood by himself,he should be ready for the battle of ants.

Baxilexi:
Agreement is an agreement - such a foolish consistency adored by slaves. I guess we should still submit or commonwealth to the British by this maxim.

If an agreement is detrimental to the people, the constitution, convictions, oath of office and personal contrition. Should it still be honored?

Personally this saga has opened my eyes to the multifaceted nature of our problems.

Nigerians don't want a good society, they just want someone they know to access the treasury, by hook or crook and share. David Cameron couldn’t have said it better- “fantastically corrupt.”

How we are not vexed that people can boldly speak of putting others in office, like we run an oligarchy or monarchy is bemusing. Instead we vilify the unwilling or repentant subject for turning a new leaf.

Even the 3 wisemen in the Bible didn’t honor their promises to Herod because of his inimical intent. So what do we actually pray for concerning Nigeria as Christians and Muslims? To change whose heart?

Just the other day in Lagos, a group of men voiced their position beyond the veil as being the grundnorm of authority in the Lagos assembly and no one sees the inanity in their statement.
Same in kogi, an ex-governor uses the current governor as a vassal and no one sees anything wrong with it.
And now port harcourt.

This is sad.

We lack norms, we lack values, we lack integrity.

Think for a minute, if Wike’s angst is for better schools, hospitals, jobs, welfare of his constituents or personal gains.

If fubara was a saint as you are struggling really hard to infer.....why didn't he start by probing Wike and destroy all his privileges......I have no sympathy for fubara.....he is an ingrate and nothing more.....even if you have an agreement with the devil u must honour it,even God our creator abhors turncoats.

Bobodee09:
Then rewrite your initial statement.

Not all Nigeria president always had there way only the smart one's.

There is no point rewriting anything insofar we agree GEJ wasn't a smart guy.

Habbeyy:

Well, Fubara should just lay low and not fight back. So that at the end of the 6 months, he will be Rivers governor again. He must not listen to those people who pushed him who could not do anything other than make noise after his suspension

In your dreams.....even fubara knows he is a goner.....by the time his file is brought out and he gets fired one single warning.....he will resign by himself and quietly go into retirement with what ever he is offered.....u really think tinubu and Wike are nice guys.....no one dares Cross those guys and remains the same.

Bobodee09:
Goodluck never had his way.

He was challenged openly by governors and assembly members severally.

Goodluck wouldn't have gotten away with something like this during his tenure.

Whose fault is it that good luck didn't have the intelligence to steer the ship of this very complex state.

creolehunt:
Sycophancy is a huge menace in Nigerian politics and simply thrives becasue of humongous corruption that feeds it.

Men have no honour and will defend anything so long as it feeds their avarice.

Would have been apt if you had said these when fubara was being urged on to destruction by all those iPob ignoramuses.

Mercisharelove:
History will not forget .

Many blind supporters of illegality have shot memory. Time runs so fast and what goes around comes around so quickly.

Tinubu lacks the constitutional power to suspend the same Gov elected as he was. Who made him a dictator over the living constitution of Nigeria?

This hole he's digging, he will surely fall into it.

When fubara tore down a whole house of assembly you were dancing naked in the market because I felt it was a move against tinubu's and his ally Wike.

When fubara single handedly impeded a 27 state legislators from carrying out their constitutional duties and withholding their pay,you were jerking off because I felt it was undermining tinubu and his ally

When fubara turned himself into a court of law by unconstitutionally declaring 27 legislative seats vacant....Ur belle was sweeting u because u felt it was against tinubu.

When fubara tore the gentle man agreement signed by both parties and disregarded the presidents advise,u were laughing and calling tinubu finished and a nobody.

Fubara conducted sham LG elections which were illegal....u didn't care so far it would undermine Ur enemy tinubu who does8even know you exist.

When fubara illegally presented 2 budgets and appointed commissioners and got approval from HOA with just 3 members over 27.....you were getting an erection.

Now the tables have turned and fubara has been worse off now than he ever was at the beginning of this unnecessary battle in the first place.....all you can do is cry that tinubu is a this and that.....do you know how much thought and due diligence must have gone into that presidents decision.....you people really underestimate this tinubu guy and that's your greatest undoing.

ozo13:
u want to try loan sharks people 😁😁😁

How does he intend to yield cassava in 3 months

jayAjoku:
they are walking out because they married men that they do not respect and now they have started collecting hard penis from the men they actually respect and desire.

That means using their husbands as decoys and and upgrading their social status as being married but their heart desires is outside and that's what they really crave but can't pin down to marry them.....then most married men are being played big time.....that's the summary of your analogy.

allen113:
Lies, around me I can't count upto 2 divorced couples, so where una dey get all this info?

Do you know how much he'll they anyone of them is going through but just masking it with fake smiles and love...... marriage is a very challenging act.

Lamanii22:
I will never walk out of my marriage in Jesus name, my husband and I are in this together forever ♾️

I say amen for u,I pray the devil won't pay that marriage a visit......a cheating wife is worse than the devil himself.

Holycity:
I may leave mine soon

Left mine last month......never been happier!! Wondered why I never did earlier.....but singlehood too can be very dangerous,every single lady out there that knows u are single will be running after u like flies to shit.....3 ladies already knew I am leaving my wife and they all haven't let me rest ever since.

Lexusgs430:
I wonder why lawyers don't read case precedents(advice their clients accordingly) .... Or is this just a deliberate ploy, to keep wasting time......

Money must be chopped.....fubara still has some largess to give away.

LagosOrigin:
How many Dem dey?

The Muslims constitute large number of kaduna population so without El Rufai, Tinubu will fail in the state unless he rig like he always does

And the gov Una sani would sit down and fold his hands for el rufai to floor him politically.....it's obvious you have no idea how politics runs in this country.

Freshtruth:
Can u imagine son of a president sharing food with nylon to the poor that is to show u that Tinubu has no vision for Nigeria let hand over the country to another person in 2027 rather than waste the 8yrs just as we did during Buhari who just want to rule by all cost but does not know the meaning of leadership.

How about the govs son crying wolf.....what has his father done as regards sustainable poverty eradication programs for the people of Bauchi state.....the joke is really on u for your infantile sentimentalism

TriCee:
A very long week in Rivers state. I hope they know what they're doing.

It may end in chaos. Going for impeachment immediately after court pronouncements seems desperate and vengeful.
Dem for allow everywhere to calm and then take actions later.

"This is the best time to strike"....never allow Ur enemies regroup "