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bemeruca:
Hahaha I never said they are humans, all along I said corporations involve humans there is no corporation without humans.

This is your behavior. After you will ask me to provide a document saying America is founded as a Christian Nation 😂

Dumdum doesn't know the meaning of separate.

LordReed:
Dumdum it doesn't matter that a corporation is made of humans, the corporation itself is a SEPARATE ENTITY from the people. Even if the people that make it up no longer exist the corporation can still exist.

Meanwhile you fled from my question because you came dangerously close to understanding.

Also you keep embarrassing yourself with this document thing. You can't provide it because one doesn't exist but instead of keeping your trap shut you keep crying about it.

bemeruca:
Microsoft has headquarters. A building where all the stakeholders make decisions.

Nowhere I imply that if you sue corporations you are suing the owners. Go read through again. You are the one who does not understand that corporation involves persons, people, individuals, humans. You are arguing otherwise which is a shame.

Human = person. If you agree there is no definition when humans becomes a person, who are you to say a human is not a person?

You see why I keep pressing you on the double homicide thing?

I agree with you that laws make it lawful for mothers to kill their babies. The problem is you people trying to dehumanize the human before abortion.

Based on your stance on human and personhood, it is contradictilory to say it is double homicide when a criminal kill a pregnant mother.

You even posted a screenshot and still don't get it.

Involving humans doesn't mean the corporation is human. The corporation is a LEGAL ENTITY it is not human.

Nobody is dehumanizing the fetus, that's all in your imagination.

If you think legalised abortion is the legal killing of the fetus do you still think legalised abortion is murder?

bemeruca:
People make up corporation.

Show me one corporation that is independent from human beings. One Animals run or nobody runs.

People in corporation make decisions the building on its own does not make decisions.

Let's talk... When does the humans become a person?

Check the bold in the quote

Dumdum thinks the building is the corporation. LMAO.

A corporation is a legally recognized entity separate from the people that make it up. If you sue Microsoft you are not suing Bill Gates or the shareholders or any officers of the corporation. Which is why they have to be joined to the suit if you want them to also be liable.

There is no clear cut definition of when a human becomes a person. For me personally, it is when the fetus is capable of existing independently of the mother ie it can survive outside the womb.

bemeruca:
Give me an example of corporations that does not involve people. We know the context of which you argue a prenatal is not a person.

All humans are persons
All persons are not humans.

If you are in a plane, they will tell you to help yourself with oxygen mask before you help others. Help yourself

You are embarrassing yourself.
Again, when does a human become a person?

A prenatal child is not a business or corporation, it is human

When you sue a company, the stake holders are affected.

You cannot have a corporation without people. Imaging we don't have rocks or mountains that are persons or dogs 😂

Dumdum it doesn't matter that a corporation is made of humans, the corporation itself is a SEPARATE ENTITY from the people. Even if the people that make it up no longer exist the corporation can still exist.

Gabrielshow24:
Context will be greatly appreciated.
I think I do know what you intend to pass anyway.

You don't yet grasp the picture.
Apart from the aspects of the forthcoming of God, you have two decisions let the promises/reward of the coming direct you even though you don't presently see it now which might bring you chagrin due to constant mockery by enemies of God or you sit back and join the God mockers group disbelieving everything.
Irrespective of whatsoever choice you take one thing is constant both groups will grow to fruition(die) if the time they brought forth was not the set harvesting period.

Now as regarding those that are lucky/unlucky to coincide in the era of the coming of God that's another matter entirely those lucky will taken and the unlucky left with some theatrical gnashing of teeth.

It doesn't matter whether you die or not what matters is how you lived your life(prepared for his coming) and also whether you experienced the coming or not; you will still be judged by him!!!

LoLz. It's funny how people dress up this obvious gaffe as some kind of high wisdom. All I see is people hoodwinked just like 419ers hoodwink people and even despite evidence they still believe the 419ers. Where is the evidence of this judgment? In the ever soon coming future. Always in the future.

Dude you and I will grow old and die and this your supposedly soon coming god will not show up.

bemeruca:
People make up corporation you dunderhead 😂😂😂

There are owners of corporations.
Which also contradicts your argument because you are talking about rights here which is the moral and sacred part of our humanity.

All humans are persons not all persons are humans. As you bring up corporation that involves humans 😂

A person has legal right to live. Some of you argue the fetus does not have rights. And I am still asking, is there any human that does not have rights?

Dumdum the corporation is separate from the people who make it up. If you sue a corporation, you aren't suing any of the people that make up the corporation.

It is unfortunate because any attempt to help you understand only makes you more ignorant.

Gabrielshow24:
I laugh at your ignorance 🤣🤣.
Maybe you have never taken part in impromptu tests and quizzes before.

You will know the major aim is to quantify the preparedness of the people.

"Oya tear a piece of paper" - it's then true ability of what you know instantaneously comes into play but once you give people assignments most will likely copy.

It's the same manner why confidential information as regards the president's movement are not disclosed he can tell the public he is going to China but the specific details most times are not released.

Imagine tinubu says he going to Lagos(iyana-ipaja) do you know how many people will converge there?

Whether they seek his goodwill is another matter some lots might be there to show him shege and others for stipends.

Hence wisdom dictates that in some certain matters the element of surprise is important!

If Ukraine knew of Russians invasion won't Zelensky not have moved all he got towards their border.

Why do you think men spent millions of dollars on stealth planes to take their enemies by surprise?

But in this matter by not saying the exact time he is to come; he is testing two things your will(faith) and your perseverance.

"HE THAT ENDURES TILL THE END WILL BE SAVED!"

Endure when they are dead? No be 419 be that.

bemeruca:
Lmao.
Is there any human that is not a person
Or is there any animal that is a person 😂

Humans have the characteristics of a person from the time of conception. 😂

Dumdum corporations are persons but aren't human because personhood is not an exclusive characteristic to humans.

bemeruca:
This is you dehumanizing the unborn child

You don't believe a human is being killed. You feel a cell or an animal is being killed.

You pretending like you are not dehumanizing it by hiding behind Lawful and UNLAWFUL does not help here.

Dumdum doesn't understand the difference between human and person. That's why I said nuance is lost on dullards.

bemeruca:
When does a human becomes a person?

Answer my question first.

bemeruca:
You still dehumanize it. Which is why you don't believe it is a person

Do you even know the meaning of dehumanize? How did I dehumanize it when I said it is human? Olodo.

bemeruca:
LordReed does not even belive it is a person being killed. They dehumanize as much as they can

Reading deficient dumdum, read this again till it gets through your thick skull.

basilico:
My dictionary doesn't have that vocabulary.
Glad you can compose paragraphs and also use big words Saying nothing

It shows that you are shallow so no wonder.

bemeruca:
Ask yourself why one moment a fetus is not a person another moment when a criminal kills it, then it is a person. That's the argument you are making.

All these are the ways y'all dehumanize because you want to kill it. 🍬🍬

Quote where I said one moment a fetus is not a person another moment when a criminal kills it, then it is a person.

bemeruca:
You cannot dehumanize what is not human donkey 😂😂 the sky is blue.

I am telling you your choice of words are always meant to dehumanize especially when it comes to abortion.

It took a while for some to admit the fetus is human. Carry on.

Later you will ask me to provide documents where it says the US was founded under Christian principles.

What is this nonsense? Are you high?

bemeruca:
This is the problem.
Dehumanize, call it double homicide, murder of two but one is human the other is not from confused people like you guys.

When a woman sentence her baby to death (lawfully) the baby is a zygote, clump of cells and a fetus. When it is done by a criminal it is double homicide. We know you cannot be charged with homicide if you kill a dog, a rat or a clump of s
Cells.

The reading problem dundi has come again. Even after I wrote clearly that the fetus is human you still come and lie that I said otherwise. Ain't you a stupíd liar.

basilico:
I leave it at that. Killing a foetus is OK as long as it's the woman choice.
At whatever stage just for the heck of it

Nuance is lost on dullards.

basilico:
It's only the woman who should decide whether a baby growing inside of her can live because it's just a non viable thing.
The guy took out a 9 week foetus and is to be charged for murder. As decided by a judge. Maybe the judge is a xtian......

I'll leave this for now.

You people act as if you are dunces so much it's almost unbelievable. What part of unlawful killing makes this so hard for you to grasp? The judge doesn't have to be a Christian to know and follow the law that says he unlawfully killed the woman and the fetus inside her.

Gabrielshow24:
Then that will diminish his word of "destruction cometh suddenly"

Also even from Schrodinger's thought experiment we know for sure that observation changes outcome.

If God says he is coming in 2026 the whole world will prepare vehemently for him no man will be a sinner but when men don't know the exact period they are most likely to be in their natural state(real self) and then you will truly know who is for God and not!!!

Hence it's not dumb but wise as God wants those that see beyond materialism and will stand with him irrespective of situations.

OK so your god is a deceiver instead of being dull. Why tell people "I am coming soon" then after 2000 years you are yet to be seen. Is that not how 419 people behave?

Gabrielshow24:
The problem is that the end time is from the perspective of God. He said so but we don't know exactly what years are really left.

Let's imagine the years of the life as a 10cm ruler was you reach mark 8 you can as well say you are nearing the end and mark 9.3 could as well be called an end mark.

Hence in Reality the general idea is that it gives a depiction or range as to when the prophecies will come to pass.

That's why a lot of people as far back as the era of the disciples postulated various years when it should take place.

As regards the specificity of the time we are guessing but we do know that we are in the range.

It's just like Heisenberg's principle of uncertainty.

LoLz. This is just so funny. You mean your god could not be precise in the words he uses? You guys make your god sound like a dullard.

Expanse2020:
Make them carry am go meet Lazaru Abi Adeboye or Oyakhilome naw make them test some power there if miracle no de mountain he fit de another people side naw🤣🤣

For where, those ones no go even try.

jesusjnr2020:
All it takes is one day, and you'd realize what we've been saying along, including the meaning of the rapture dream you claim you had, it's my hope though that you would have repented before then because it won't be funny at all.

As for the names of those @ bolded, I would search for them, because I saw several online including a video made by two of such ones, I will get back to you when I found them.

Not holding my breath for this cos I know it's not going to come.

adenigga:
Source: https://punchng.com/FG-plans-5%-tax-on-telecoms-services-others

Instead of boosting local economy they are busy looking for what to tax. Yeye.

basilico:
Okay you have won..How you think about this case ? Oct 19 2024

https://www.wnd.com/2024/10/judges-moves-case-forward-against-thugs-suspected-of-murdering-girl-and-unborn-child/

Teryn Johnson of Philadelphia was 17 when she was fatally shot in 2022, allegedly at the behest of her boyfriend. She was also nine weeks pregnant. Now, a judge has ordered that a case against Johnson's alleged killers can proceed on two counts of murder — for the deaths of both Johnson and her preborn child.

When Johnson's boyfriend, 20-year-old Halim Evans, learned of her pregnancy, the first thing he mentioned was abortion.

Here.

Jokerman:
After the spirit (Soul) leaves the body on earth, it will be too late to repent and ask for forgiveness of sins.

It's only while alive we can seek mercy. God is the God of the living and not the dead

So many issues with this. What is a spirit or a soul?

Then why is the god susposedly still interested in us after we die?

jesusjnr2020:
I don't know about countless believers in time past, but in several decades of my being truly saved, I have never seen a time close to the recent past few years when the endtimes message or preaching has been so rife.

Even myself that has been preaching the gospel of Christ for over 20 years, it was in years 2020 that I had my first rapture dream, and since then it has become common-placed, and it's not just me but the urgency is the same thing everywhere.

That in addition to the signs which were given thousands of years ago to help us know when the endtime was close, many of which have never been fulfilled ever before were being fulfilled now right before our eyes.

Even many skeptics, including world-famous scientists and secular figures who mocked and easily discarded our preaching, have begun to admit that only the Christians seem to know what's going on.

So the difference is very clear now from anytime in the past with respect to endtimes expectations.

The most important thing though, is that we were always ready and prepared regardless, because the end for many is the day they die, and after death comes the judgment, so their end may come much sooner than the end of the world.

I had my rapture dream in 1991, yet here we are more than 30years after. There is nothing special about having a dream.

Which "skeptics, including world-famous scientists and secular figures", mention one.

There won't be any difference between you all those countless believers who have died. You will also probably believe until you die just like they did never seeing the end.

Jokerman:
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Everyone who has ever been born and lived on this earth, right from Adam must leave this world (die physically) because of the consequences of sin- Romans 6:23.

The spiritual body of man is supposed to go back to God after dropping the physical body (The Flesh), but not all souls vcan be qualified to enter God's kingdom because of Sin starting from Adam because God is full of holiness, and cannot stand sin- Hebrews 12:14. Sin made man fall short of seeing God's glory - Romans 3:23.


Hence, any soul full of Sin when it leaves the body goes to where the author of Sin is. The kingdom of Sin, which is Hell Fire as its temporary abode before the final judgement, however if a soul is able to conquer Sin, that soul goes back to be with God in paradise until the last day of judgment.

Now, the good news is we have someone who was able to conquer sin, and this same person made it possible for other souls to conquer sin, and become overcomes like him.

This person is Jesus Christ.

Why not accept him as your Lord and Personal Saviour to save you from the wrath of God poured upon a wicked world contaminated by the Devil and His angels.

Why not accept him while there is still time. Tomorrow might be too late. Now is the time of Salvation. Don't allow the Flesh make your soul go astray. The Flesh is built for this world, but the soul isn't built for it. The holy spirit will quicken your soul to overcome the Flesh.

Please accept Jesus now. Visit any church and join them. Buy a bible. And if you don't know a church to join

Come and Join the Lords Chosen Church and start growing in Jesus Christ from there.

Be not deceived. Not sinful soul will escape condemnation. Only Jesus can Save

Sounds like the way 419 people tell you to hurry up because they want you to feel the pressure and urgency.

If supposedly after people die they'll be conscious for eternity then why can't they have that period to contemplate and repent?

naptu2:
There are campaign finance laws in the United States that limit the amount of money that a person can donate to a campaign. However, people develop all kinds of methods to get around the laws. They create political action committees (PAC) and donate via those committees, some CEOs encourage their workers to individually donate to a campaign, etc.

America (the organisation that runs the petition) is a political action committee that was set up by Mr Musk and others and he has pledged to donate $45 million a month to it.

Mr Musk is not directly donating to Donald Trump's campaign, instead, he is paying people to sign a petition. In his previous announcement he said that he will only pay people who refer voters, but in this announcement he has said that he will pay voters directly. Pennsylvania is a swing state (that is, it is not fully republican or democrat) and swing states usually determine the results of presidential elections.

He is using it to collect data so they can better target voters in those places.

jesusjnr2020:
120 years is a rough estimate. It could be a bit less or probably more, and Noah was said to be a preacher of righteousness in his day.

Genesis 5:32 (KJV)

And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Genesis 7:6 (KJV)

Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.

2 Peter 2:5

if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;

It won't make sense until the day finally comes upon them just as it was in Noah's day.

OK so you guys are just guessing about this end times right? Just imagine the countless believers in this so called end times that have all died believing their time was the end times. What makes you different? You are guessing just as much as they are based on nothing but ancient stories.

basilico:
So it's a land of pagans.

Yes since the Native Americans were animists.

basilico:
Civilizations evolve. Current western setup largely accelerated under Judeo Xtian values.

You said built on not accelerated by. Even the US system of democracy is based on the Roman senate which existed before Christianity. Western civilization was not built on Christianity. And it is even dubious to say it accelerated it because of the Dark Ages, when religious fervor stifled thought and progress in the West.

basilico:
I brought up that treaty to show you the mindset of the pirates.
I have not read the treaty but I remember that an American President got fed up with paying the pasha 40% or so America revenues to the Pasha of Tripoli. He created an expeditionary force now known as the USMC to attack those primitives who regale in hostage taking and ransoming.
Where you think Hamas , Iran and Somali bandits got the idea of ransoming western hostages?

Once again

LordReed:
What has this got to do with whether or not the US is a Christian nation?