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mitchyy:
I wish there was a functional authority in Nigeria to report dog abuse and maltreatment to. This dog is almost going blind on one eye from the beating she got this morning with cassava sticks.
Can't wait to move out and stop seeing this. I'm trying hard not to interfere anymore but it just keeps breaking my heart

Hello mitchyy.

Perhaps you could secretly find a person who loves that particular breed to come buy him / her off the irresponsible owners at a price they cannot refuse. That way everyone is happy in the long run; you, the dog, the buyer and the irresponsible owners.

Mrdrix:
Your brain dey work well
You deserve a Gold Medal.

Thank you.

MasterofNL:
You've done this several times and it's not working.

There has to be a way to make her know you are really hurt.

So many ladies here talking about Communication is key. Communication, communication and communication. Making a mantra out of it. 

The sad reality is this; so many ladies out there (and even on this forum) do not even know what communication is. Not in practice. They do not know when their husbands / boyfriends are verbally communicating their grievances in the most mature way. No, they do not see it as such, much less appreciate it enough to apologize or seek ways to resolve the issues. These are the worst, and I believe are kind of ladies the OP is referring to in the above quoted.

Some guys never meant to indulge in acts that most ladies would refer to as "childish" in conflict resolution, but what is a guy to do when his woman repeatedly does not "hear"?

Aeman:
Mehn d dog s owkai ooo bt can it go. 4 10k cos itz an ekuke dog breed

Is there ever an asking price that is good enough for anyone?

Lavendra:
please how do I potty train my dog? I live in a self con in school and I'll be getting a Samoyed next week any ideas on how I can deal with the poo and pee part?

Hello Lavendra.

I see you still ask the same potty training question on a few other threads. I believe I already described how to go about it on your own thread a long time ago.

LeSammy:
Try those attack steps on a rottweiler and pittbulls, it would work wonders!
no one in their right minds would teach lhasa's how to attack! They'll teach dogs which are natural at attack if they have any knowledge about dogs!

P.S: That attack method is the one used by the bulk of security companies in Nigeria and most parts of the world

"No one in their right minds" you say? But there are so many out there who do not even know what breed of dog they own or what it was bred for. Such would attempt to teach any dog anything at their fingertips. Ignorant, but still in their right mind.

What I do know about attack / protection training is that even among breeds that are naturally predisposed to attack, the candidates are selectively handpicked as pups based on their temperaments and predominant drives and then nurtured to perfection.

Kindly do not encourage (or even hint at) training (especially) pitbulls for attack. Or any breed for that matter. Most are dangerous enough as it is and many are in the hands of the wrong people. It is prudent to leave those for the professionals.

LeSammy:
I appreciate your suggestion sirs! I'm strong against training dogs for attack but I think it depends on the owners, not all owners want pet dogs, some get them "only" because of security!
Most dog lovers(like me) prefer dogs as pets but the high crime rate has pushed people who don't care about dogs to get them for just security purposes

Granted, you may be strong in training dogs for attack, but still a lot of caution should be exercised in sharing that knowledge.

Here's the thing, most people who want really aggressive / attack dogs really do not know what they are asking for. If they did they would not ask for nor want them.

I know a thing or two about training dogs for attack and the like and I get asked a lot (even on this forum) to teach / show how to do this. But as someone who has seen, owned, trained and even been attacked by (uncontrollably) aggressive dogs, I know the dangers inherent in acquiring one. And with this knowledge at the back of my mind, I simply refuse to oblige such requests. Truthfully, the average Nigerian does not need such a dangerous tool / knowledge at his disposal because the average Nigerian does not know how to handle it, albeit responsibly.

First off, people in this country need to focus more on being able to "control" their dogs. This is where obedience training comes in. It is where they need to build on and they need to develop a culture for doing this. Sadly, the concept of obedience training is still very novel here and many do not even know what it is, let alone how to go about it. Already we have millions of people with very badly raised dogs and who have no other control over them other than to keep them locked up. These dogs were never put through any form of obedience training and as such the owners have no verbal (or even physical) control over them. Inasmuch as the said dogs serve security purposes, they are equally great liabilities as they cannot discriminate between friend or foe. So when you publish on a public platform such as this tips on how to train dogs for attack and bite work, and to a people who already score low on responsible dog ownership, you only worsen a very bad and dangerous situation.

I would advise, like oluomoadebayo said that you stick to obedience training. Let the average Nigerian be well grounded in obedience training their dogs first before they start experimenting with attack training.



NB: Attack training is a lot more complex and not as simple as you make it seem. It actually involves a lot of conditioning work on the dog to be trained in it, which in turn must be naturally predisposed to it by temperament, etc.

oluomoadebayo:
Attack training is not done on a community board, don't even try it because you are setting the dog on a wrong path.

It's a process from preparing the dog to fixing bite, so please stick to obedience,that all that matters.

I felt the same way, but then again I felt it was not my place to ruin it for the OP.

nike4love:
My guy,my six months old lab backs when someone approaches my gate and plays with the stranger when he enters my compound unlike my caucasian the same age...
Will that behaviour improve with time?

Like I said earlier, the ability of a dog to be a suitable guard / security dog is dependent firstly on the breed of dog and what it was originally bred to do.

The Labrador is a gun-retriever dog. Bred originally to retrieve game during hunting, and used occasionally to track / scent and detect. Even though it may bark, it is not at all suitable as a guard dog because it is very friendly, trusting and accomodating, even of strangers. Most importantly, it is not a territorial breed, so you cannot reasonably expect your labrador's behaviour to change to be like that of your caucasian. Though both are dogs, they were originally bred / developed for two different reasons.

adeyinka09:
Thanks bro for the wonderful comment. The dog is Alsatian . I'm still open to new idea and suggestions.

adeyinka09:
Good job bro. The dog is Alsatian. The owner will prefer it to be a guard dog to attack dog. The dog is like 2-3months old now. I will tell him to try your suggestions here . I'm still keenly interested in other training methods. Thanks

Just as I thought. At 2 - 3 months old, that dog is still a wee pup and far too young to display any guardian / protective instincts.

LeSammy:
In your opinion, What breed of dog do you think is the territorial and protective(without being to aggressive), which would make a perfect security dog?

That's easy. The Boerboel of course. And I do not say this because I own boerboels.

The Boerboel is said to be the most protective but least aggressive of all dog breeds. What this means is that the boerboel's first instinct is not to attack, but rather to deter. The true boerboel would only attack as a last resort or when the threat is real. And in the case of an attack, the Boerboel would sustain it's onslaught until the threat is neutralized. It would never back down and would protect / defend it's owner and territory to the death.

All these said, the Boerboel is extremely protective and therefore not advisable for a first time dog owner or inexperienced handler. It requires a firm and calm leader as the owner. And most importantly, it is a people-oriented breed of dog. This means, it needs to be physically around his people most of the time and treated as a member of the family in order to get the best out of it.

LeSammy:
I appreciate your contributions sir, you're extremely knowledgeable and I'm learning from you too! But there are ways in which dogs can be trained to bark once things like the gate is opened! Or immediately they see a stranger sir! It's very possible but it's harder or almost impossible with some breeds but it's achievable! But majority of dog owners in this country lack the time and patience to do so!
as soon as the puppy in this case matures, its sense of territoriality would heighten and it would please it's owners with just little on no training

Of course it is possible to train dogs to bark in certain situations. It is usually done for peculiar instances, depending on what the trainer / owner seeks to achieve with the dog. But is such training really necessary for a true "security" dog? The answer is No.

Like I said, and to which you have concurred, the average dog only needs to be allowed to grow normally and mature into this role. And then his territoriality / protective nature comes to the fore. The true guard / security dog requires absolutely no training to do what it was bred to do because it is inherent in his nature based on the breed and genetic make-up. When the right time is due, it would manifest. Unfortunately, many people in this country do not know or understand this, which is why many expect their dogs / pups to fly right off the bat and be superhero dogs from day one. It is very unrealistic.

LeSammy:
No sir! That's why it's in two parts! You first calm your dog and then teach it to bark and attack strangers sir!
calming it down would make it easier to train

Even after calming and teaching a dog to bark and attack, it still does not automatically make him a security dog because, by virtue of the the training he still requires your presence and command to bark and attack.

Like you rightly said, a guard dog (and by extension a security dog) is one that alerts the owner to the presence of an intruder. What this means is that the dog has the innate ability to discriminate and can take such action on it's own accord. The ability to do this is dependent on the breed of the dog first, and then on the age / maturity of the dog in question. Individual temperament and confidence level of the dog are also secondary factors that affect this ability.

You cannot teach a dog / pup to be a security dog in the truest sense of the word. Rather he grows into the role. The most you can do is to mold his reaction to perceived intruders and threats.

adeyinka09:
Good job @op. I need your help on this. Someone close to me just got a dog two months ago with the aim that that it will serve as a security dog. To his dismay, the dog only loves to play with everybody even strangers. He is unhappy with this likewise me. I will be glad if you can help with practical example to train this dog in order to serve it's purpose. Thanks

Depending on the breed, if the dog is still a pup (or under 9 months old) you cannot reasonably expect him to assume the role of a security dog at this stage. It is normal behaviour for most puppies to be overly friendly, even with strangers.

Give the dog time to grow. As he matures, he would become self aware and begin to assume the role for which he was bred. In the meantime, your friend should bond with the dog and learn how to control him as he grows up.

LeSammy:
First, the dog is too energetic and hyperactive, so there are 2 methods, you first calm the dog and train it to bark and attack strangers (that's if what the owner wants) and the breed of the dog also counts!

To calm the dog or exhaust it's excess energy

Sometimes a high energy dog gets revved up and just can't stop! You may see behavior such as jumping repeatedly, racing around at top speed in circles or back and forth. Some breeds of large dogs are naturally high energy dogs, so this behavior may be something that you have to work on throughout the dog’s life. Dogs that exhibit this type of behavior may also be bored or under stimulated, so follow these simple steps

1. Using Exercise to Calm Your Dog

Take your dog on a long walk. One way that you can work out some of your dog’s energy is to take him on a nice long walk. Keep in mind that a stroll around the block will probably not be enough to calm your dog down. You will have to walk with him for about an hour or even go running with him if you are able.If you cannot walk your dog due to physical limitations, a long line in your backyard that your dog can run back and forth on may help.

2. Play fetch or hide and seek with your dog. You can help your dog to use up some of his energy by playing a game of fetch or hide and seek with him. Hang out in the back yard with him and throw his favorite ball or Frisbee for a while or have someone hold onto him while you hide a few treats around the house and tell him to go find them.You might have to show your dog how to play hide and seek by hiding a treat in front of him and then commanding him to “Go find it” a few times.

3. Get some other dogs to play with your dog! Like 3 different dogs! They'll exhaust his energy!

But there are more effective ways to calm down a very playful dog and train it to h
bark at strangers! I'll include them in training no.4 and 5

Calming the dog and exhausting his energy still does not stop him from playing with strangers, neither would it automatically make it a "security dog".

Sudirnge1:
Advice pls i was sold a mongrel instead of a gsd/caucasian crossbreed. I am really sad because i just confirm i was swindled. My sons freind keeps dogs and he claimed to have a mix of gsd mother cauc father he even went as far as showing my son the parents but today when i took them for the second round of vacine my vet told me they are local dogs.what annoyed me most is the fact that in their house there is no single local dog in sight, could these mean that they where brought in from else where? Unfortunately this is my first atemp at keeping foriegn dongs, ive had several local dogs and to be franck these puppies where actually looking different as at the time i bought them. But as they were growing i was expecting them to increase in the features and even growth which didnt happen, instead the features were deminishing. Im confused and angry that i was sold local dogs at 10,000.and i bought two.pls what is your advice because i want to return them and if he dosent refund me my money i will make a case because i try to be honest in all my dealings i have not deliberately cheat anybody so i'm really hurt that somone is doinh it to me the worst is that i was even broke and had to borrow this money .i stay in abuja pls advice me.

Hello Sudirnge1.

My first comment would be; why would anyone expect to get anything good in the form of a dog for N10,000? Some prices may seem too good to be true, but the fact that anyone would offer to sell a "gsd/caucasian" cross for N10,000 should be enough to raise eyebrows as to the authenticity of the pups or the seller themselves. I guess the lure of a cheap deal sometimes clouds people's ability to ask necessary questions.

Secondly, you said you have had several local dogs in the past. I believe that should have equipped you with enough knowledge and experience to spot a local dog pup even with deep sleep in your eyes.

That said, I am not here to judge you. You requested for advice on what to do and I would suggest the most logical thing to do. The fact is that you were swindled and this is wrong. So you are entitled to make a case of it and demand your refund. So, son's friend or not, you need to remove sentiments and ask the fellow who sold the dogs to you to come right away to collect his animals and refund your money, or else a trip to the nearest police station would be in order. You do not owe him anything, neither do you have to keep the dogs if you do not want them.

As an aside, It is highly irritating to look at the dogs in photos you posted. They are nasty. And the way they are gobbling the food is not helping matters. Please ask that fellow to come and take his animals asap.

I do not see any reason to fear the dog here. Only statistics.

Lavendra:
OK, I was wondering, can I make aSamoyed aggressive?

Yes you can. But I wonder why you would want to.

blasiangurl85:
Hello LordRegalia, it's been a while. No I actually gave up on that thought a long while ago. I think shadow and I are kinda reaching a mutual understanding of eachother. The older he gets the calmer he is. Although he tends to misbehave especially when I'm around but when I get serious he knows when to stop mucking about. So I think we are on our way to a perfect relationship.

Hello Blasiangurl85.

That's great then. Congratulations. The most rewarding phase of owning a dog is when they come off adolescence and into adulthood being controllable and well-behaved and you both have mutual respect and understanding of each other. At this point, you just know that the dog is your's for keeps and for life.

Congratulations on getting Rian and Shadow to be the best of pals. I absolutely always love it when i see kids who are naturals with dogs. I cannot really explain why but I just know that there is something very special and endearing about it. And asides the bond shared between children and dogs, kids who grow up with / around dogs are known to have stronger natural immunity to diseases than those who do not.

Really nice photos you have up there.

Lavendra:
hey guys I only gave my opinion on what I think you are free to give yours, I never said all cross breeds are meant for security not all but in Nigeria most of them are then most pure breeds are used for breeding and are more expensive than cross breeds, how often do you see a breeder looking for cross breeds? they mostly go for pure breeds here in Nigeria because they know if the breeds are mixed they'll be forced to sell cheaper, but for some Nigerians who don't care about breeding but want security they mostly go for cross breeds and it's cheaper for them but not all go for this, that what I think, you are free to give your opinions.

Hello Lavendra

Your point is understandable and your candid opinion is appreciated.

But here is the thing; all dogs, irrespective of the breed, are used for some form of security one way or another. The choice of cross / mixed breeds or purebreds now depends on each individual owner's preferences. Whether it is mixed or pure does add to or take away from a dog's inherent nature / ability to provide security.

The degree of aggression is merely dependent on the method of raising / handling of the dog by each individual owner. Any breed of dog, mixed or pure, can be MADE to be extremely aggressive.

This is the sort of thread that can only originate from the mind of a child.

muymacho:
I have never owned a dog but I want one soon. I have done a little research and I am attracted to boerboel. what are the chances I will raise a well behaved dog and do I require intense training.

Hello muymacho,

The boerboel is a great and powerful dog, very wonderful family companion and protector all rolled into one. It is a very good dog to own if you know what you are doing.

That said, seeing as you have never owned a dog, I would advise that you start with a small or medium sized breed of dog and use that as a first experience to learn about dogs in general and dog ownership in particular. It is a huge responsibility. The boerboel is really not advisable for a first time owner or inexperienced hand. It is fiercely loyal and protective and if not managed properly as regards obedience and control, could become a very serious problem for it's owner and the people around him / her.

Not that I totally expect you to heed this advise to start with a smaller dog, but if you do decide to start with a boerboel, please be sure beforehand that you do a lot of extensive research on the breed and how to raise / train one properly, to the point that the knowledge becomes second nature to you and you cannot go wrong.

All the best.

Thank you.

Eveezy:
Really nice writeup and very educative, plus damn! u have wonderful dogs, wow! am in love wit dem. sorry for asking dis, but are u still a bachelor? cos jealousy go wan kill ur wife ooo, all dis tym even at night just for ur dogs, ur wife will fight with u d next mrn oo. Most women DT can like attention. And once again nice dogs, how many do u have in total? cos I do know u to ve black Boerboels nd diz are fawn, which means u ve dem plenty

Hello Eveezy.

Thank you for the compliments. The dogs are products of patient and painstaking selection (after long searches) from very good and outstanding parents, in addition to total dedication to their care and well-being right from puppyhood. It feels good to watch your dogs blossom beautifully as you spend so much time and resources to ensure that you get it right with them.

I get asked your question so very often. My answer is always the same: A wise man sees an avoids trouble long before it even attempts to come his way. It would be foolish to go for a partner who does not share or appreciate your passion(s). That would be asking for trouble. My lady, like me is a great lover of dogs who totally understands the responsibilities involved in raising healthy, balanced and stable dogs. Thus jealousy is not and will never be an issue. Rather, the dogs are also family and the daily routines with them are now part of the lifestyle.

Thank you.

If only the Saraki's of this country could meet such swift justice for their criminal excesses. Not in the same manner, but equally swift, sure and appropriate for their offenses. Nigeria would be so much better for it for starters.

Crime does not pay.

I am not saying that the nemesis he met was the best, but all the same I do not feel sorry for the boy.

There are millions of people in this country in dire straits and far worse physical and / or financial conditions than the thieving lad, but they are daily braving the odds trying to make an honest living and not resorting to a life of crime. We all come across some of these poor but honest people everyday in one way or another.

Perhaps the owner of the phone's method was excessive, but then again you cannot be sure of what / how many of such robbery experiences he may have had in the past that may have conditioned his response to the situation. Not that barbarism should be condoned, but still a bit of humanity ought to be shown in the exercise of jungle justice.

One thing for certain is that the boy would not be stealing anything again for a very long time, probably for life. In fact, henceforth the devil may not even bother to tempt him anymore. So that is one less thief we have to worry about.

Plus, many others like the boy in question would learn from the lad's experience and change their ways. That is good too. A lesson learned and a deterring example that crime indeed does not pay.

He will not do it again.

blaze612:
I laff anytime i read your post cus you have been irrelevant from the begining ( i see you quoting me again like always)

Sighs!!

Some people are simply incapable of being of any use to themselves and the rest of mankind. Hopefully, sooner than later, even this fellow would realize just how pointless he is. Until then, he is free to keep on yakking to his heart's fill.

I'm off to bed.

blaze612:
briefly, critically state the significants of your presence here?

To get nuisances like you off the OP's case. Get a life please.

Lanray09:
We have a young male boerboel of good bloodlines for sale. He's just over 1 year and well taken care of. Location is Lekki. Call 07033033802 for details. #HDKENNELS

That is a good looking male boerboel. Good features and nice structure. I particularly love his hind legs; very powerful, a quality not easy to come by in many boerboels, even among the pedigree ones.

If I may ask, what is your reason for selling such a promising lad?

blaze612:
finding it defficult to decipher the msg then read his post 10times again n mine 2times. ( i see you quoting me again).

There is nothing to decipher. Your entire presence on this thread is irrelevant. This is what you need to understand.

desoul:
its a bmy dog is about 14weeks now and its dosnt bark,
its not growing as i am expecting..
any advice pls..
its dosnt bark strangers...or even at night, no matter how i try to introduce any new tactics....pls help a brother..thiefs full my area

Hello desoul.

I think the problem is, you acquired the wrong breed of dog for what you require. The true bullmastiff is a quiet dog and rarely barks. And when it does bark, it would not be without good reason.

In any case, at 14 weeks, your dog is still a pup and should not really be expected to be a guardian dog at this age. Socialize him and allow him to grow and play as is right for him now. When the time comes and at the right age, his true guardian instincts would take over. And then you had better be sure that you know how to control him.

If what you wanted was a barking dog guard dog, the rottweiler may have been a better choice. And if you only require a barking dog, the tiny L'hasa Apso would bark you out of your mind.

blaze612:
guy i can sense your jealousy, we are not the first and won't be the last . Advice, buy some pure breed female pups n keep some of their puppies, and count last you bought a puppy. thats how we have been doing it for decades, thats if you can feed a puppy talk of many of them. go nack ur head for nearby pillar. least i forget, the rott is pregnant, n the caucasian was on heat eight days ago. Thanks

And your point is what exactly?