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justwise:
No she is not the only one, I'm one of those who sees you as a questionable character, I follow your story for a long time and it doesn't add up.

Your display of imaginary wealth is just a trap to clean up greedy and unsuspecting individuals.


People need to be careful believing anything you post here.

Justwise I have said before & I will say it again I own two LLC's and run a home based businesses.

If anyone doubts me, I will be more than happy to produce copies of certificate of incorporation for my businesses

Secondly, I'm already U.S. Citizen. I have already produced a documentation to prove that assertion

Lastly, anybody that spent anywhere from 5years - 10 years abroad and have nothing to show for it should maybe consider returning to Nigeria and try his/her luck.

Maybe their destiny might be in Nigeria.

Heck if you can't make it America, you probably won't be able to make it anywhere else in the world.

It's very funny when you're poor nobody gives a Bleep.

But after grinding for so long and start seeing the end of the tunnel people begin to throw all sorts of questions towards you.

Like are you kidding me?

Get outta here with that bullshit...

Ain't got time for all that...

Babyvet:
Negro bye, according to these posts you are a fraud so I’m not the only who has accused you

Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 12 by imperiouxx(m): 7:26pm On Sep 14, 2017
Joyflexxy:
Na wa ooo,good thing don turn bad,see person wey dem help don turn Tiger.This one na real elephant grass.Am really sad.

All I beg for is justwise shouldn't hide my narration of this whole event because it will come with many screenshots. I need to prove myself publicly that I know nothing about the banks he's about to defraud of their money. Like I said, I would be glad to explain to FBI agents if called upon.... He's messing with the wrong bird.
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https://www.nairaland.com/3905661/general-u.s.a-student-visa-enquiries-part/216

Blah Blah...

Baseless accusations..

Not even a tangible evidence, just word of the mouth.

Honestly talking with you is wasting my time.

Please don't quote me again.

I need to sleep.

It's almost 3:30 AM EST.

There is no reason why someone who works a
9-5 type of job should be awake at this time.

Babyvet:
Travel / Re: General U.s.a (student) Visa Enquiries-part 6 by LUCAS99: 9:50am On Jan 08, 2015

Dear forumites I applied for a renewal of my F-1 Student Visa through the Drop Box Visa Renewal Program at the U.S. Consulate General Lagos, Nigeria on December 2014 but on Wednesday January 7th 2015 I received an e-mail from the Correspondence Unit (TMI) US CONSULATE GENERAL LAGOS, NIGERIA stating that the they needed to see me in person inorder to proceed with my case. But the problem I am having right now is that my school resumes on Monday January 12th, 2015 for the spring semester. It is advisable to depart the United States while school is so close to resumption. It is worthy of note to point out that when I was filling the DS-160 nonimmigrant Visa Petition I also mentioned the following information listed below
(1) That I have a pending immigrant petition filed on my behalf by my sibling
(2) That I have a valid work authorization card issued by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)
(3) That I have four siblings currently residing in the United States three of whom are United States citizens and one a permanent resident

Ojap, Imperiouxx, Msnas, bigfrancis21, Walspring, Zeezahbee and other forumites your inputs are highly appreciated.

Why do you keep quoting my old post?

That post was made almost three years ago.

Didn't I tell before that I came on an F-1 Visa & then I converted from F-1 Student Visa to U.S. Citizen?

You need to stop.

It's too late for this.

It's almost 2:30 AM EST.

Aren't you going to work in the morning?

Babyvet:
Nope I don’t have any wahala , but there is a reason Why Nigerians are stereotyped for fraud. I am done arguing with you , even on your thread people questioned the validity of your own posts. Good night.

The only person that questioned the validity of my post is YOU.

Even when you've been proven wrong, you still wanna argue.

Girl Bye.

Babyvet:
Lol, whatever lies you tell yourself . Everybody and their mama owns business . I hope it’s not business of internet scamming.

Nobody has the time to tell lies...

Weren't you the same person that accused someone of lying about their citizenship couple of hours ago?

Exactly same thing you said about everybody and their Papa are U.S. Citizens & you were proven wrong.

Abeg leave me jor...

Your case tire me...

I swear...

Babyvet:
Lol, whatever lies you tell yourself . Everybody and their mama owns business . I hope it’s not business of internet scamming.

Abeg carry your wahala go somewhere else...

First, you said I was lying about being a U.S. citizen & I proved you wrong.

Now, you're now talking about being involved in Fraud.

Ain't got time for all that.

All my money are legit.

So please take your wahala to somewhere else...

I have way more important things to do with my time.

Babyvet:
Lucas, some of the post you make on here are very questionable . Owing a business does not make you rich. But I would not consider some working at TSA to be a rich person because according to your post , they make around $16 per hour which is by no means rich by any standard in this country. That’s the problem with Nigerians, we like to overinflate things and create false fantasies about abroad , which is why our country will not be great in addition to our bad leaders.

Stop twisting my words.

I never said I work in TSA.

I did say that I have considered getting a job as a TSA agent since I was bored at home

I'm currently self employed & I run two home based businesses.

Being rich is subjective.

You can define it & then we can go from there.

Babyvet:
your case is dated for this year. So you supposedly lived for 6 years plus on f1 visa ?

I don't really understand your question?

I just showed you that it's possible to go from F-1 to U.S. Citizen.

That has been the basis of our argument today.

Babyvet:
I read through it too and he has contradictory stories. He was talking about his rich kids of Miami and then on here , he is talking about getting a TSA job at the Airport.

Don't people from rich families work at a job?

I also run two separate businesses from home.

lillaowow:
So I was going through your thread "Rick kids of Miami" (because it is a public forum and because I can).

There is a lot of things about your posts that points to outright misinformation and making up stories.

I don't wanna say you're lying particularly about your immigration process. It's just so weird. Almost doesn't make any sense.

Good luck to you bro.

You can go over to my thread and point out the misinformation that way we don't deviate from the purpose of this particular thread.

Babyvet:
No I’m taking it from the immigration website . I don’t want people to deceive . Do you think the us is stupid ? Every Tom dick and Harry would now be claiming that they’re parents are us citzen .

I don't usually do this but since I'm tired of your argument here you go:

Babyvet:
Yes you do , it clearly states that on the USCIS website .

No, you don't..

You can be above 18 years and still file for a form N-600.

Take it from someone that has gone through the process.

Babyvet:
Citizenship law has changed over the years and different laws apply to determine whether you automatically became a U.S. citizen at birth, or after birth [b]but before you turned 18 years of age. [/b]If you are claiming U.S. citizenship based on your birth abroad to U.S. citizen parents, the law in effect on the date of your birth applies. For purposes of these provisions, you must be the biological child of your U.S. citizen parent, and different provisions apply depending on whether you were born in wedlock or out-of-wedlock.
If you are claiming U.S. citizenship after birth, but before you reached 18 years of age, the law in effect when the last qualifying condition was met is the law that applies to you. Generally, the conditions are listed below.
These conditions must be met before you turn 18 years of age:
1. Your parent must be a U.S. citizen;
2. You must be the biological child of that U.S. citizen parent;
3. You must be lawfully admitted to the United Statconceptlawful permanent residence; and
4. You must be living in the United States in the legal and physical custody of your U.S. citizen

If the child does not qualify then child has to go through the regular family petition that requires green card first then they can file for citizenship.

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/n-600instr.pdf

I'm heading to work but once I'm back I will dissect your questions one by one.

It seems you have a little difficulty understanding little concepts.

Babyvet:
You do not qualify for the n - 600. You have to be under 18 when they filed for citizenship for you . You just can’t apply at any time. You posts contradict either other , why did you apply for student visa if you know you were a beneficiary .

I have told you several times that you don't have to be under 18 years when you file for a form N-600.

But continue arguing...

Ain't get time for that...

Babyvet:
Nope , we are not stupid . I don’t need to download crap. I got my information right the USCIS website .I asked a simple question. Why did you apply for f1 visa?

That's not crap

That's the form used to apply for derivative citizenship

If you can't download a simple form that answers your question then I don't owe you any form of explanation?

Babyvet:

To qualify for the i245,

A petition for classification under section 204 of the Act (on Form I-130, I-140, I-360, or I-526) which was properly filed with the Attorney General on or before April 30, 2001, and which was approvable when filed;

(ii) The term “properly filed” means:

With respect to a qualifying immigrant visa petition, that the application was physically received on or before April 30, 2001, or if mailed, was postmarked on or before April 30, 2001, and accepted for filing.

https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/AFM/HTML/AFM/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-8624/0-0-0-9232.html

Why are you talking about form i-245 when we're discussing about form N-600 ( Certificate of Citizenship) ?

Babyvet:
He is lying, it’s does not work like that.

Citizenship is not automatic for him because if it was why did he apply for f1 visa instead of citizenship .

Madam you love arguing unnecessarily...

Even after everything has been explained properly to you.

Please go download the form N-600 as well as filing instructions then come back & argue.

lillaowow:
No bro... I can't afford Boston. Not that I can't pay the rent but, I can't live in a tiny 1bedroom or studio appartment for 1,800$ per month and have to pay for parking every day. Plus the traffic sucks and bunch of annoying tourists always in your way.

The city is Lively though just too expensive for me.

However, from my experience, working in Boston is great. The pay is way better for most people.

I am working my transfer to Maryland or Texas, I haven't decided (if my parents petition gets approved sooner) once I get my citizenship in few months

Yup.

The same exact reason while I moved away from New York City to Miami.

New York City is way too expensive for me.

lillaowow:
This isn't about definition. This is about how the process works.

It is right there on the United States citizenship and immigration services website. Any other thing outside that is falsehoods.

Their is no falsehoods in my statements:

Even if you're above 18 years now but you were under 18 years old on February 27, 2001 (the date the law took effect) you may file Form N-600 at any time to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship.

What part of my statement above is too difficult to understand?

lillaowow:
Boston is amazing. I love it.

I come to Boston everyweek on work related event. I hate driving to Boston though. When I drive my personal car, I make more money.

When I take public transport, I enjoy more and get to stay at one of the Marriott hotel in Boston with other benefits.

I thought you live in Boston?

Do you only visit for work?

lillaowow:
Thank you Babyvet

His story is so weird. There's no way they'd have issued him a F1.

I don't wanna say he's lying but c'mon.

He is implying that US embassy have no record of his parents

Besides, they won't have given him citizenship since he's over 18 and left with the option of a permanent residency.

Una sabi argue...

Even after explaining everything to you guys...

You guys need to ask question...

People become Citizens without even becoming permanent residents first...

I know because I went through the process...

Babyvet:
Because citizenship is not automatic in your case. Plus if it was automatic then why did you apply for f1 in the first place.

https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

Define Automatic Citizenship & Derivative Citizenship.

The answer lies right there in your definition.

Babyvet:
You are incorrect , you must be under 18years old during the filling . It says it right on the USCIS website.
https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

No, you don't.

Have you ever filed a form N-600 before?

You only need to be under 18 when the original law was enacted not during the filing of a form N-600

Babyvet:
No it no’s automatic, both the child and the parents meet the requirements . To be derivative your child must under 18 years old . During your f1 interview they would have asked about having any relatives in the U.S. They definitely can track these things. It would be weird if you answered no during the f1 interview then your parent later applied for you later.

You guys love arguing unnecessarily.

To obtain derivative citizenship you only need to old under 18 years old when your father became a Citizen.

You can apply at anytime to obtain a Certificate of CItizenship.

lillaowow:
Lol... Work related trip tho (Modified)

Ok, I have never been to Boston.

Heard is Super Expensive & Very Cold during winter.

I should have visited when I was still living in New York City.

lillaowow:
I don't have time for you right now.
I am checking out of my hotel and my Uber is waiting. Boston is a crazy place to be at this time.

When I have time, I'll dissect your post. Just know people here are not idiots or kids.

.



Just be careful so Madam doesn't catch you checking out of a hotel...

If not you will have to explain what you were doing there this morning...

lillaowow:
I don't have time for you right now.
I am checking out of my hotel and my Uber is waiting. Boston is a crazy place to be at this time.

When I have time, I'll dissect your post. Just know people here are not idiots or kids.

Nobody is calling anyone idiots.

But when you're not knowledgeable about a subject matter just research & ask questions instead of arguing blindly.

lillaowow:
Also once you're over the age of 18, you don't get the derivative status. You however get the option of an I485 application for PR.

Why would one apply for Permanent Residency when they're already a Derivative Citizen?

That doesn't even make any sense.

lillaowow:
Also once you're over the age of 18, you don't get the derivative status. You however get the option of an I485 application for PR.

Who told you that?

As long as you were under 18 when your parents became citizens then automatically you're a derivative citizen.

You only need to file for form N-600 ( Certificate of Citizenship).

lillaowow:
Why would I wannna see your passport? WTF. Why would you even suggest that?

How, let's both sit down and analyze this.

Your parents were citizens, but you were born in Nigeria
First and foremost, they won't wait till you're 18 to apply for you passport or immigration papers

Under F1 Visa applications, it will ask you for your parents information as such, they won't issue you an F1 knowing you're a derivative citizen.

I am not saying you're lying bro but your story just don't make sense. And now you're getting all defensive. Like WTF..

I'm not getting all defensive.

I believe I have answered your question to the best of my ability.

My mum passed away when I was little & I didn't want to start explaining every little details of my life in a public forum.

Go read up on the Citizenship Act of 2001 and then come back and ask your questions.

lillaowow:
I'm sorry. Not that I am trying to scrutinize your post. But something just weird.

Story sounds like your parent woke up someday and realized they were USC then need to file for you

Or you were lost child (which doesn't seem to be the case) and all of a suddenly renuited with your family

And in both instances, you won't skip green card since you're already 18 and older.

Your immigration history is so weird. Like UNBELIEVABLY weird.

F1 to USC.?

I just told you that if you were born in Nigeria & your parents were citizens at the time of birth then automatically you become a derivative citizen at birth.

So I went from F-1 to U.S. Citizen.

No Permanent Residency.

What part are you confused about?

OR

Do you need me to post a copy of my U.S. Passport?

lillaowow:
Hmmm

That doesn't make any sense to me. They won't even issue you an F1 if they find out you're a derivative and encourage you to apply for citizenship.

Except maybe your parent became a citizen during your F1 while you're still a minor (which doesn't seem to be the case)

They embassy has no way to know since my parents never filed for a Report of birth abroad of a U.S. Citizen so the interview was strictly F-1.

If they had obtained the report then it would be a different scenario.