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chukwudi44:
From this quotation it is so explicit that there is no salvation without being baptised
This verse further reinforces the fact that water baptism is actually necessary for salvation .

so that means if i don't get baptized i don't get born again
what if a man at the point of death in the hospital gets born again and die, his salvation will still not count?

nuclearboy:
But your entire marketing team, full of sense are in pain, agitated and responding nonstop to NO sense?

Which would mean you're either insane or bothered else why bother? which is it?

nuclearboy:
^^
Vain, perverts, love-peddlers, cowards, lazy-people, thieves, fraudsters, liars, idolaters claiming lies as promises using twisted scripture.
The Blind calling the sighted dim-eyed!

Baby talk, no wonder newmi calls you boy

Frosbel
Your boy here is not doing a good job at all. Make una find work for am.
While I agree with your topic . "The love of money" is devilish. But prosperity of a christian is not thesame as the love of money. The love of money is an unseen wrong appetite and attitude. But prosperity is the blessing of God. If a xhristian man prospers by the word of God . Does it mean that he has the love of money? This is the line you have failed to draw.

KunleOshob:
@joagbaje
I am yet to see anybody preaching a poverty gospel on this thread neither as anybody said christians ought to be poor. What we are simply saying is that[b] the gospel is not about material prosperity and the so called prosperity gospel was designed by the devil himself in the darkest pit of hell and it is being spread by his disciples[like yourself and oyaks] who have infiltrated the church to rob christians of their material wealth now and their future salvation[/b]. People would always be rich and poor with or without the gospel, stop doing your master's bidding and polluting the gospel for the sake of your greedy belly.

how do you mean material prosperity,kunle oshob and then what is spiritual prosperity from the scriptures pleas
Also what is the gospel of prosperity the devil designed by the way who are these christians you are fighting for or is it just greed and selfishness you are exhibiting

Ehn? Which light or enlightenment ? DAAARKNESS!
Matthew 6:23
23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

The devil is so stupid. He has ran out tricks , so he is busy going round in circles going nowhere?  . Some people out of their frustration feel that by attacking a prominent person they will gain some importance. It only reveal their sorry case.

@newmi

newmi:
Bonboi,go and sit down. you're not making any sense as usual.

Let them be talking , like parrots , that's the heritage they have from the devil. They are busybody. It's poor mans job!

1 Peter 4:15
15 But let none of you suffer . . as a busybody in other men's matters.

Jesus described them here:
Luke 7:33
33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil. 34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

I thought our bonboi said . They never had issues with paul and Jesus. His own worse pass sef! the say Jesus they shak burukutu!  . I wonder how Jesus manage with all the scandalous publicity. Well it shouldn't have been an issue to him. It is a call .

nuclearboy:
^^ Corrected to show some depth rather than vacuous shallowness.

If this were not so, the Apostle Paul wouldn't wonder at the usefulness of Christianity IF HE WERE TO SUFFER HERE and then have NO HOPE in heaven. Seeing as it is words that he wrote that are being misquoted and bandied about now, we ought to ask ourselves a question - Paul worked for his living. Even though he planted most churches and was apostle to the gentiles, why wasn't his life like that of say, chris oyakilome? How many times were his miracles doubted? How many acolytes did he possess. Where does anyone find those he preached to holding him in same regard they hold God? Where does anyone find him preaching money, naira, dollars and cash?

Government agents brought their sick to Christ, Peter and Paul. Governments are TODAY saying if you show a purported miracle, we will verify it and our chairmen are canceling their "shows". Are they following the Christ who we ought emulate by using our wealth for the poor? Are they following the Rock on which Christ built His Church (called out ones NOT conformist ones) who said "Silver and Gold I have not" or are they actually following another master - ergo Satan

As OP said, God is about the SPIRITUAL. He does bless people but usually for the purpose of helping others and being a blessing rather than becoming oppressors or going about in convoys of cars at the expense of the poor.

False teachers are about money, temporal power and world domination (which interestingly is the Biblical description of the Anti-Christ) as we see some people here "conquering the WORLD", "winning the WORLD". They always want the WORLD not God's Elect Ones.

Their fruits bear them witness - in life and even on this thread. Interestingly, most are paupers in real life living off debts and on hope (like the Commandclem thread where they reign wishing to reap where they didn't sow and are praying Mobil gives them 239 BILLION DOLLARS). Lazy lowlifes looking for handouts and hoping they can bribe God to force His Hand

The poor were helped in the church by what others gave. But bobo What would you have done if you were there those days ? While others were laying aside money, you would still have complained. Those who attack others like this are the culprits . Just like judas. He was angry that the woman was wasting money on Jesus . What an opulence! Jesus being bathed by a Prost.itute with an expensive perfume! Why others dong even have water to bath their leg. And Jesus using a mans donkey Exploiting the innocent man. Not to talk of the mugu desciples of his who were trekking while the 419 oga was riding the donkey the laboured to get!.  If he was really a man of God , he ought to have come down and let the disciples ride the donkey! Isn't it so nuclear? What ever you guys are doing now is not new.  It's thesame demons of 2000 years ago .

nuclearboy:
^  See barrage of pain. See expressions of frustration at seeing false walls crumble.

The false wall is the beggarly life Satan wants to subject he church to.Truth is really painful BUT it must be said.

Christians can be rich but their primary blessing is SPIRITUAL

What an irony.

Subject: Partakers Of A Glorious Inheritance – Tuesday February 15, 2011 – Pastor Anita


Partakers Of A Glorious Inheritance – Tuesday February 15, 2011 – Pastor Anita

Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light (Colossians 1:12).

Did you notice that this verse of scripture didn’t say “God will make us,” or “is going to make us partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light?” Rather, it says He “hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light.” That means He’s already done it; we’ve been made partakers of a glorious inheritance – the inheritance of the saints in light. God the Father did this for us, in spite of ourselves. We couldn’t qualify for it on our own; He “made us meet,” that means qualified us to be partakers – sharers or joint-heirs of the inheritance.

Your good works or your own righteousness couldn’t qualify you for the blessing. But God in His infinite mercy and kindness qualified you for the good life. How exciting to realize that you don’t have to strive to be good enough for God. There’s no need to strive and work to merit His blessings, for it’s by grace. His righteousness is your qualification to be a partaker of the glorious inheritance He’s prepared for the saints.

Thus, all the glorious and precious promises in the Word that have come to us through Christ are your present hour possessions. Prosperity, healing and health, success, spiritual advancement and everything that’s required for your total well-being are all yours now. Many have been deprived the enjoyment of their glorious inheritance in Christ due to their ignorance of God’s Word: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge… (Hosea 4:6).

God’s Word is the book of your inheritance; that’s why in Acts 20:32, the Apostle Paul, through the Spirit declares: “And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.” This is the reason you must study the Word voraciously, for the Bible says, through knowledge – the knowledge of God’s Word – shall the just be delivered (Proverbs 11:9).

Prayer
Dear heavenly Father, I thank you for qualifying me to be a partaker of the inheritance of the saints in light. I declare that I’m walking in divine prosperity, health and peace, in the Name of Jesus. Amen.

Further Study
Colossians 1:13
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Galatians 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Daily Scripture Reading
1 Year Bible Mark 1:21-45
Reading plan Leviticus 8

2 Year Bible Matthew 14:22-33
Reading Plan Genesis 46

Rhapsody of Realities Pastor Anita Oyakhilome
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The blessing of Abraham includes all things .He wants us to live in pleasure.

Job 36:11
11 If they hearken and serve him, They shall spend their days in prosperity, And their years in pleasures.

But we sacrifice our pleasure also to build his kingdom .Money is needed to reach build Gods kingdom . An individua or church in poverty can not make impact in the world . Africa has poverty and lack mentality. Always begging and receiving from other nations. Even free bible. What do we do in return . We say we don't have. I love what pastor chris said. He said we will send bibles all over the world this year. Russia, Arab nations and  Asia.  Do you know how much it cost to beam satellite from africa to the rest of the world. Look at the voice of gay movement, Islamic extremist and satanist. They are finically powerful. And we sit down doing not . Rather we are fighting over non isssues.
I wonder how Jesus feels. He is waiting for his church to stand up and take over the world with the fire of the gospel . Using every means available.

The Greek word for Rich means , to be rich in goods. I wonder why the  poverty prachers give the impression that the riches are only spiritual . Was Jesus spiritually poor?

My point is that the amoeba reproduce by dividing itself. that's how God give birth. he divides himself into us.

1 Corinthians 12:11
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

newmi:
Kunleoshob,
Which one is this pastor B again?

OMG! you don't say
Ah but na wa o kunle, are u that desperate?

what does Amoeba give birth to
Amoeba gives birth to other children of its kind
But the interesting thing is these other Amoeba off springs carry the life of the Amoeba in it
They carry the cell of the Amoeba

SirJohn:
^^^^@mabell,
you can run but you cant hide, I'm still waiting for you here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-599451.128.html

run ke

crossman9:
He is a liar because he does not tell the real gospel of Christ he has hi-jacked the word of the living GOD, so you sheep out there wake up and read the bible

matthew10:9-13 7And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

8Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

9Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,

10Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.

11And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.

12And when ye come into an house, salute it.

13And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.

Whats your point exactly

jpworld:
@mabell Sharaap, I guess u r either Adeboye, or Oyakilome, or any of this Man of Dog, after stealing from the people, u r now using there money to do charity,

which people, is it stealing from the poor to feed the poor?
My giving does not mean my money was or is stolen from me
And im neither Adeboye or Pastor Chris, im mabell

Give Your Dreams Positive Interpretations

For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Let not your prophets and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither hearken to your dreams which ye cause to be dreamed (Jeremiah 29:80).

In certain Christian circles, many believe that eating in your dream is ominous; they associate it with the activities of demons. But could there possibly be anything wrong with eating in your sleep? What’s the position of God’s Word on the subject?

Let’s begin by reviewing Isaiah 29:7-8: “And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel…shall be as a dream of a night vision. It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite…” If a man eats in his dream and still wakes up hungry, it means he really didn’t eat anything. This therefore shows there’s nothing to eating in your dream; it’s just the imagination of your spirit.

Satan thrives on the fear and ignorance of people. If you had a dream for example, and then you’re uncertain about the meaning, satan could launch an attack against your mind by suggesting negative interpretations to that dream. Fear might then creep in, which ultimately could pave way for demons to have a field day. So the problem isn’t with the dream; it has a lot more to do with accepting the negative interpretation of the dream brought to you by satan.

So you ought to be smart to always subject your dreams to the Word of God. Don’t accept the lie from satan that eating in your dream is ominous; if anything, it means prosperity. Throughout the Bible, there’s no place satan gave people food to eat in a dream; only God fed people in their dream, example is Peter (Acts 10:9-15).

If you found yourself eating in your dream, don’t be afraid. Wake up and begin to prophesy: “I was eating in my dream; therefore I shall always have food. I shall always have plenty!” Don’t wake up crying that someone has bewitched you in your dream, for you’re a new creation in Christ Jesus, and every food you eat is sanctified by the Word of God and prayer. Besides, no weapon fashioned against you shall prosper, be it in your dream or in real life.

Confession
I’ve learned today to always cream my dreams. I refuse to base the outcome of my life on the lies and suggestions of the enemy. Rather, I see myself in the greater light of God’s Word as the true victor that I am. Hallelujah!

Further Study
Isaiah 54:17
No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

Luke 10:19
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Daily Scripture Reading
1 Year Bible Matthew 28
Reading plan Leviticus 4-5

2 Year Bible Matthew 14:1-10
Reading Plan Genesis 44

Rhapsody of Realities Pastor Chris Oyakhilome

On the 1st of October, all the CE churches do a community service. They either give to the poor or carryout one charity work or another for a community or an organisation
They don't bother going to the press to scream their heads out all that happens is they just tell other CE churches for them to know what their churches do and for them to do better and thats all

You say charity is the primary duty of the world before evangelism, where did you get this from
When Jesus gave the mandate to win souls, did he say go to the poor to and feed them or

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
(KJV)

We are not against feeding the poor but its not the number one before evangelism
Tell me where did you get that from the bible

mr.man:
mabell, Did you read my footnote very well?,did i say in Adeboye i trust?. I believe in God not Adeboye

yes i did young lad and i was not mincing words when i said what i said
If you trust in God, you will trust in His words

Subject: Make That Change! – Saturday February 12, 2011 – Pastor Anita


Make That Change! – Saturday February 12, 2011 – Pastor Anita

Each of you must take responsibility for doing the creative best you can with your life (Galatians 6:5 MSG).

A lot of Christians try to make God responsible for what is actually their responsibility. Sometimes you hear some people make statements like, “If God didn’t want that thing to happen, why did He let it happen?” For those who talk like that, it’s obvious they are not aware that the authority to change things in the earth doesn’t rest with God, for He’s delegated that authority to us – His children. We have the responsibility to change things when the circumstances of our lives don’t line up with the provisions of the gospel of Christ.

In Matthew 17:20, Jesus lets us know that YOU, not God, can do ANYTHING: “…verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.” If He had said nothing shall be impossible unto God, that would have been easy enough to agree with; everybody ought to know that. But He said nothing shall be impossible unto YOU.

Then in Mark 9:23, He said, “…all things are possible to him that believeth.” So the big question is: Do you believe? If you do, then what do you believe? If you believe God’s Word and put it to work in your life, then anything is possible unto you. You shouldn’t wait for God to alter your circumstances; you’re to make that change! By your faith, you can be what you want to be, change what you want to change, and achieve what you want to achieve!

Learn to take up your responsibility, for you’ve been imbued with the ability to affect changes. You don’t have to wait for evil to strike in your home before you put your faith to work and cause changes that you desire. Keep the Word in your mouth always, releasing faith-filled confessions; and those confessions will create the realities in your life.

Confession
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. My life is one of endless possibilities, nothing is difficult for me, and no negative or challenging circumstances and situations are impossible for me to change. I’m a believer in Christ Jesus, therefore, a possessor of all things!

Further Study
Mark 11:23
For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Daily Scripture Reading
1 Year Bible Matthew 27:45-66
Reading plan Leviticus 1-3

2 Year Bible Matthew 13:53-58
Reading Plan Genesis 43

Rhapsody of Realities Pastor Anita Oyakhilome

SirJohn:
Now this is core WOF which originated from E.W Kenyon/Kenneth Hagin, trying to elevate the Christian to a God status. You may have the life of Christ, that does not make you everything that he is, He is God you are not and can never be.

Aside these scripture
Ps 82:6 ¶ I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
(KJV)


Let us everyday illustrations. Please fill in the missing gap

Man gives birth to,
Dogs give birth to,
Horses give birth to,
cows give birth to,
God gives birth to,

@Chukwudi

your own don finish

@away4real
maybe the book of chukwudi chapter 4 verse 4 would be better

chukwudi44:
If a man voluntarily decides to contribute 10% of his income to anybody ,who are my to  question that?
But If that decision is based on misinformation or threats of curse then I have every  right to educate him on that.
It is simply 419 to tell people that God asked them to pay money to you when there is no such directive in the bible.

who is the mis informed, if a man is misinformed about the scriptures, maybe it's his fault cos he has the scripture to study for himself

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
(KJV)

This court case matter is not today.
I've being hearing it over the years
The thing is i never hear it on network news, why i ask
Rather its on one fraudulent website or soft sell magazine
If these allegations are true, by now, Pastor Chris should have being in jail
Other people that had one fraudulent case or another have being apprehended or sentenced
It's amazing and yet people still talk like,


Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
Luke 6:26


let the tongues continue to wag

Your case is worse than i thought.
this was what i said

A child could be born into a christian home, he could grow up in the church and still not be born again until he acknowledges and confesses Jesus as his Lord and accepts him

And this is what you said:

So you are saying in esence that the criteria for being a christian is to be born in a christian home abi?A man cn be going to church every day and yet he is not a christian haven't you ever thought of that ?You cannot be a christian if you don't beleive in Jesus

I'll give you the benefit of doubt, you did not properly read or understand my post
Anyway, this is my concern:

chukwudi44:
So you are saying in esence that the criteria for being a christian is to be born in a christian home abi?A man cn be going to church every day and yet he is not a christian haven't you ever thought of that ?You cannot be a christian if you don't beleive in Jesus,even if you follow your parents to church,the day you accepts Jesus and gets baptised is the day you become a christian.
Even if you confess verbally and still refuse to get baptised ,you are still not born again

where did you get this from from the bible and could you please compare your findings with Romans 10:9,10

maybe i should resurrect my yookos thread
There are a lot to learn about yookos you know

chai!! you really go skool, u too much
I believe in God, I believe in my pastor in my local assembly and i believe in Pastor Chris in as much as i don't worship them
I no put water for mouth talk am

He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.
Mt 10:41

nuclearboy:
^^

Wetin again?
Aunty Mrs Joagbaje said my money is too small cos I believe christians cam be poor. So I said yes O, my cash is small indeed unlike you gods own who borrow Lagos state money and forgive the debt. But it will suffice me buy bicycle or biro.
But if you're not happy I can buy a pen, Ok, can I buy 2 Naira kulikuli or one Tom-Tom? Or a small cup of Gari to drink? My point is all these offer better value than listening to an ignorant plus lying chairman of a group of funny people. Is that better now?

very funny
You really are humble
Please continue to choose poverty cos you have decided to be mislead by your wrong perceptions

chukxy44:
I would like to know if there is any stated (cultural, regious, traditional or conceptual) duration for fasting to start and end. growing up, most fast times the belive is that it is either 12 noon, 3:00pm or 6:00pm, should one brak for the day when was is hungry (maybe 5pm) or is 6am - 6pm the justified fasting duration?

chukxy44:
How long does your fasting last?

This is not the best place to get that information cos a lot of OP will be said
Let it be between you and your pastor, ie if you have one and believe in him
Or better still between you and God

crossman9:
God will build His church and the gates of hell will not prevail against
well mabel
did you ever think Christ embassy is the gates of hell come let look at the bible for a minute what does it say? many will go to destruction so think jesus said he is come for his little flock does he teach on the mark of the beast does he teach on where is the lost tribes of isreal are no because pastor chirs is nothing more than a copy cat who is just use the bible for to make money out of there is many things ill be covering in the book

Is this how you intend to write a book, pls use your punctuations
This post is not clear biko resend it again o