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chukwudi44:
unfortunately one can never become a christian until you are born again by the renewing water of baptism and of the holy spirit.Technically speaking,there is nothing like unborn again Christians,it is either you are a born again christian or simply not a christian

Stop spreading the wrong gospel
You can be a christian and not be born again. The bible says

because if thou shalt confess with thy mouth Jesus as Lord, and shalt believe in thy heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved: 10 for with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation
Romans 10:9-10 (ASV)

There is a confession to be made. A child could be born into a christian home, he could grow up in the church and still not be born again until he acknowledges and confesses Jesus as his Lord and accepts him. It's simple logic
The fact that your parents are born again does not make you born again
You are either a born again christian or a christian( probably church goer and worker) that is not born again

mr.man:
RUbbish talk by the so called man of God. Sheor

Your footnote says 'in God you trust'
And you can say what you said above
You have to believe in God for you to trust Him
So if you believe in Him, how come you don't believe in the ones He sent
Don't be an hypocrite!!

KunleOshob:
^^^
@Mabell
Why are you so obsessed with me? Am I the one that made the statement you are responding to? Or why are you addressing it to me?

the same way you are obsessed with Pastor Chris and CEC
Any way sorry o! but that guy sounds like you

chukwudi44:
Hypocrite did you anwer the one I asked you.?
For the record Abraham paid tithe just once in his lifetime and that was to melchizedec.There is nowhere in the bible it was instructed that that tithe should be repeated.
If you still want to practice the melchizedec tithe ,you can go ahead and fight war in your village seize spoils and go ahead to give a tenth of the spoils to melchizedec if you can still find him

I want to be clear on sth, you agree to tithing but you say it should be once? Yes or No
Then what are your reasons scripturally, just answer

jpworld:
And what is Christianity?

It is a way of life
It is living the christ like life
Acting in the will of God

crossman9:
look all you people out there pastor Christ is evil and you can't see because you spend so much time reading the Rhapsody of Realities rather than the bible, you would see him as a evil and wicked man who hi-jacks the living word of GOD to make money out the simple? and he uses demonic powers as well i know I've been to Christ embassy in the UK: where i am now and there church member destroyed my life so i know this all you wicked and evil people who worship him As A (GOD) the lord is coming back very soon why not copy Jesus not some fake healer with a really bad Jerry curl? and I've noticed that you are all doing the same thing, you are in a spiritual gang having the same clothes and the same hair style?
i am writing a book about this evil cult?
you people took from me a great deal? but i am here giving you the truth when the book is finished ill make a copy free of charge to any member who asks
me i dont say this with hate but love you are all going to hell if you dont repent?

You really are blinded by those who sent you
I am a member of Christ Embassy, yes i read the ROR and study the bible with the help of my rhapsody
Now aside this, i read other books and listen to tapes by other non members of CEC so your basis are unreal
You talk about a new book which will not be a bad idea to read but come to think of it, you sit in your home and complain about the ROR but you want to author your own and make millions( because i know it will sell especially if it is about CEC)
NICE MARKETING/SALES STRATEGIES

crossman9:
this pastor is brain washing you all you blind guides

New recruit, what is your purpose of resurrecting this thread
Is this your own assignment?

kenpaam:
Are you not a christian?
You can start by drinking poison, maybe i will follow you.
A situation made Jesus to walk on water, his disciples left him, there was no boat again. It was not to show off.
There is nothing wrong if you raise the dead, you ought to, because you profess christ.

And after he had sent the people away, he went up into the mountain by himself for prayer: and when evening was come, he was there by himself. 24 But the boat was now in the middle of the sea, and was troubled by the waves: for the wind was against them. 25 And in the fourth watch of the night he came to them, walking on the sea. 26 And when they saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they gave cries of fear. 27 But straight away Jesus said to them, Take heart; it is I, have no fear.
Matt 14:23-27 (BBE)

@Kunle
Jesus did not walk on water in order to show Himself or to proove a point.
He did that because His disciples left their master without a means of transportation knowing fully well he had to attend the meeting on the other side.

Joagbaje:
This is the reason why as a Christian, you ought not be defeated in life, because you’re sufficient in God’s sufficiency. The power and authority with which you function are His very own. When you speak, He’s the one speaking; when you minister, He’s the one ministering through you. You function in His stead; He gave you the power of attorney to function in His Name!

When a born again carries the consciousness of who he carries on the inside
Nothing can stand before him successfully

@Nuclearboy
1. he does not need to tell me the gospel needs financing, i already know that good and big projects need financinng
2. so which one is the real tongue?
3. when we give out Rhapsody, we give out the word of God and at the same time we cannot preach the gospel and allow people go hungry,we rather feed them

But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.
 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes.
  He said, Bring them hither to me.
And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitude.
 And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the fragments that remained twelve baskets full.
mark 14:16-20


17 He saith unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep
John 21:16-17 (ASV)
4. The teaching of all having health and money and strength, i am not sorry to say remains the truth. ok, sell all your properties and disburse all your fund to the motherless and orphans and then continue to live your life like that

The thief cometh not, but that he may steal, and kill, and destroy: I came that they may have life, and may have it abundantly
John 10:10 (ASV)
All the above are in the package called eternal life. You don't just admire the wrap on the gift, you open it to see the content

5.leave joagbaje out of this, im the one asking a question here, i mean, common
Amusingly enough, i don't believe anything i hear, i follow after the word

'But as long as you believe EVERYTHING a man says is right, there will be dissent. And as it stands, CE is losing every argument and face before the world. Slowly, the toll will become higher'


You got it wrong here again, its the other way round, CEC is gaining more ground world over

15 And he said to them, Go into all the world, and give the good news to everyone. 16 He who has faith and is given baptism will get salvation; but he who has not faith will be judged. 17 And these signs will be with those who have faith: in my name they will send out evil spirits; and they will make use of new languages; 18 They will take up snakes, and if there is poison in their drink, it will do them no evil; they will put their hands on those who are ill, and they will get well.
Mark 16:15-18 (BBE)

i think we are just following the great commission, we no get choice than to spread our tentacles and well too

my advice to you
the devil is a liar and a father of lies
i know you are his errand boy but the truth is whatever he promised you as your reward is just a lie
so be wise now that you can or better still rest in your foolishness

KunleOshob:
How does that concern us Is there anywhere in the bible we are asked to exemplify Abraham's one off tithe? Abraham gave his tithe to the King of Salem, are you giving your tithes to a king as well or you are manipulating Abraham's tithe for the sake of filthy lucre?

are you saying tithes should not be given in church?

chukwudi44:
Abraham's tithe to melchizedec was a one off event which was never repeated anywhere in the bible.That does not mean to say Abraham never helped widows in his life time afterall it was his kindness to strangers that gave him a son

like joagbaje said, did he give his tithe to any widow
im interested in your opinion

KunleOshob:
You know the mind of God yet you would rather follow a man, a cheap common criminal at that. It must be the mind of the mamon god that you know I laugh in summersaulting phonetic tongues

Maybe you should laugh in Ogbia
I was attending another ministry where i barely knew the word of God
I was so hungry to know it that i almost got converted to another ministry just because a lady was always coming to share scriptures and her doctrine with me
Until i came in contact with CEC and my life changed
This ministry has taught me more than enough
I have a better relationship with God
I don't worship and will never worship man but this same Rev Chris, if he had not accepted the call of God upon his life where would i and every other person have being
Be real, he is a man sent from God and lo and behold, he taught me about the mind of God

@Nuclearboy,
1. i don't remember paying for any of my miracles
2.so which is the real tongue
3.What do you mean by your own Christianity
4.If prosperity is a good gift given to you by God how come you still say it's not yours
5.If i make my offering open, ok how much is my offering then, who says i don't get blessed too
The reason why we go through the stress of talking and giving examples is because you are all doubting thomases who despite claims of being christians do not believe in the power of God

Patjoe:
so when was the antichrist born

e go fit talk

You all have built high empires and towers but what you failed to realize is that they don't have a deep foundation, , you know how it will end
o ye generation of vipers

@Newmi
they don't believe in tithing and offerings, they don't believe in divine health, they don't believe in prosperity and speaking in tongues so what do you believe in

[color=#770077] They know not, neither do they understand; They walk to and fro in darkness: All the foundations of the earth are shaken
Psalms 82:5 (ASV)

They know not, neither do they consider: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.
Isaiah 44:18 (ASV)

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jpworld:
@mabell The Bible should not be used to prove anything. While I believe in God, the Bible was made by men interpreting what they thought God expected – at their time in history and as they understood the world. That's why all religion is false. God exists but no man can know the mind of God – thus, all religions are false.

But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things
1 John 2:20 (KJV)

It's really not hard to know the mind of God you know
There are different ways, when you spend time in praise, prayers and worship, God speaks to you
When you fast and pray, God speaks to you
Through your pastors and leaders in church, God speaks to you
Via studying of the bible God speaks to you e.t.c

Having done all these and more, i can beat my chest and say i know the mind of God

@Nuclear boy

OMG, see how little your mind works
You are really humble o!
It is hut and bicycle and Biro you spend your money on
Abeg no be your type, i know your type
God knows the kind of ride you have
mr innocent indeed

sirjohn
you just de do follow follow,

@Newmi
when i read your posts i became more aware of the glory of God, scriptures started rising in me i couldn't help but share

Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee; because he trusteth in thee.
Isaiah 26:3 (ASV)


My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth. 3 He will not suffer thy foot to be moved: he that keepeth thee will not slumber. 4 Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep. 5 The LORD is thy keeper: the LORD is thy shade upon thy right hand. 6 The sun shall not smite thee by day, nor the moon by night. 7 The LORD shall preserve thee from all evil: he shall preserve thy soul. 8 The LORD shall preserve thy going out and thy coming in from this time forth, and even for evermore.
Psalms 121:2-8 (KJV)

wow! this is exciting, God is wonderful
He has provided my safety, my peace
i cannot stumble, why? because he teaches me and shows me the way
God is a great God

Wherefore let no one glory in men. For all things are yours; 22 whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours
1 Cor 3:21-22 (ASV)

I lack no good thing because the God that i serve has made sure i possess everthing
This is huge
i could go on for ever

chukwudi44:
Among the teaching of the word of faith movement,the one I find most dangerous is this teaching which stipulates that once a christian is born again,he is already saved.This implies that subsequent sins commited by this christian is already "washed" by the blood of Jesus.

I would like to see how major WOFer exponents like joagbaje,newmi et.c defend this horrendous teaching

so whats the essence of the Jesus shedding His blood
Why did Jesus come?

omoruyilag:
Rhapsody of realities indeed, another way of exploiting members

150naira is now exploitation for a book you will buy and take to your house
How much do people buy hardly chase and bestsellers
How much is hint/hearts magazine or fashion magazines
plesase don't make me puke
This is obvious poverty at work in humanity
You sound like a pwerson that cannot buy something and leave his change
It's amazing you can speak on this thread when it is obvious you don't give

savanaha:
If you are not willing to give don't be too eager to receive either!

There is a principle of giving
There are also different types of giving
if you give you will receive and whatsoever you sow you will reap

give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, shall they give into your bosom. For with what measure ye mete it shall be measured to you again.
Luke 6:38 (ASV)

Nobody forces you to give, we are only taught from the scriptures why we should give, the rest is left to us
Even the almighty God gives, so what exactly is the issue about giving

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16 (KJV)

If you don't believe your pastor , find out from the scripture yourself!!!

@kunleoshob,
it is obvious it is not the spirit of God that is at work in you rather you are receiving revelation from you know who

Subject: The Blessing And The Advantage – Wednesday February 9, 2011 – Pastor Anita


The Blessing And The Advantage

Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing (1 Peter 3:9).

Some people complain bitterly about how they’ve been cheated, victimized or marginalized by others. They give these excuses as reasons for their failure in life. But that’s not your lot if you’re born again. You're the seed of Abraham: “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:29). The blessing of Abraham is at work in you, and that blessing guarantees your prosperity, no matter where you find yourself in life, and gives you the advantage.

It was that blessing at work in Isaac that gave him the advantage, causing him to prosper exceedingly, wax great and make progress until he became the envy of the Philistines (Genesis 26:13-14). That blessing was what made him dig wells and find water where others had tried and failed. The blessing worked so much for him that in a time of drought, where others experienced no harvest, Isaac sowed in the same land and reaped a hundred fold harvest (Genesis 26:12).

Now, if the blessing could work so much for the folks in the Old Testament, and give them the advantage, then it certainly works much more for us today. This is the reason as a child of God you can never be disadvantaged; for you’re the blessed of the Lord! The blessing of Abraham is at work in you twenty-four hours a day.

This blessing was what gave Abraham the advantage when he parted ways with his nephew, Lot. Both men had flocks that were so large that the land they occupied couldn’t accommodate them together any longer. This caused strife between their herdsmen. Abraham wasn’t happy with this, so he called Lot and asked him to choose a part of the land where he could tend his own flocks separately to prevent their herdsmen from confronting each other. The Bible says, Lot chose the best part of the land, leaving the other part for his uncle, Abraham (Genesis 13:10-11).

Abraham didn’t care what part of the land he got for he knew he was a blessed man. By virtue of the covenant God made with him, he knew the whole world was his. We can also be like-minded for the world is ours through the blessing of Abraham.

Confession
I’m blessed with faithful Abraham, therefore I manifest blessings everywhere I go, and the blessing of God upon my life gives me the advantage; therefore I win today and every day, in Jesus’ Name.

Further Study
Genesis 28:3-4
And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people; And give thee the blessing of Abraham, to thee, and to thy seed with thee; that thou mayest inherit the land wherein thou art a stranger, which God gave unto Abraham.

Galatians 3:29
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Daily Scripture Reading
1 Year Bible Matthew 26:57-75
Reading plan Exodus 36-37

2 Year Bible Matthew 13:24-33
Reading Plan Genesis 40

Rhapsody of Realities Pastor Anita Oyakhilome

If you have come to believe the word of God, you will not mind what others say.
Now even if your pastor tells you something contrary to the what the bible says,
you can still stand on what the word of God says instead and have faith in God instead
So it can apply to anybody and any situation
Simple

jpworld:
The bible is a collection of man-made stories. Jesus may have been an actual person but he was never the son of God. Fuk Yo pastor chris,

And where are you appearing from with such insinuations, where are your scriptural backups about your claims

nuclearboy:
I know you'll always be there - you are of the world so none can separate you from it

Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
John 8:23 (KJV)

KunleOshob:
^^^
This was the same clown that disappeared last year when we asked her probing questions to authenticate her false claims. I hope you haven't infected your poor husband with the virus sha.

Twisted minds

LoveKing:
what date did you get healed of hiv?

meaning?!?
Healing is for the children of God and can be done by God's matured children so whats the big deal
see

And they departed, and went throughout the villages, preaching the gospel, and healing everywhere.
Luke 9:6 (ASV)

also,
healing is the children's bread

Azibalua:
@ nuclearboy
1. We can't stoop so low as to give you your heart desire
2. Unlike you we don't sit down and grade men of god because we have a high level of respect for them
3. Serious Christians are busy winning their world for christ and all you do is sit down and compose a list of what you think is the standard to judge a man of god,check out your low level
You are really jobless

A lot of nonsense will still be said
Tongues will still wag
The same ones that applaud a pastor today will use the same hands to tear him down

@Nuclearboy, your cash no go reach, its kinda small u know

@Azibalua,
u forgot to talk about the internet, you tube and all
@nuke

nuclearboy:

Azibalua:
Standard Christ Embassy fruit revealed - lying, twisting (A-F-Miracles split from A-F-Faith[b] so they can lie that they're still there)[/b]. I spit at the thought of you. Shame on you lying yet claiming relationship with the Living Truth

We will never go away, we will always remain

nuclearboy:
We knew/know the truth and just wanted you to face it since you were in denial. Anyway, your oga here has said ANY Christian (he even said Jesus Himself since to him, Jesus is just a born again) can die of sickness which means sickness took sway in that life. Since you claim Yaks Yaps the 1st is a Christian, that means he too can die of sickness which shows this whole thread was a travesty and the original post was just another feel good story meant to excite the "multitude" with itching ears. You people should be ashamed to click <reply>

I hope your English is up to following and understanding the above since your exchange with SirJohn suggests you have a bolt loose somewhere.

you want to remove the sand in somebody's eyes when you have a stone in your own
where and when did joagbaje say Jesus can die of sickness
you and i know the power jesus possesses abi no be so
so why say the impossible
even if does not mean it is, that how terribly bad you twist not just scriptures but peoples minds

Subject: The Blessing And The Advantage – Wednesday February 9, 2011 – Pastor Anita


The Blessing And The Advantage

Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing (1 Peter 3:9).

Some people complain bitterly about how they’ve been cheated, victimized or marginalized by others. They give these excuses as reasons for their failure in life. But that’s not your lot if you’re born again. You're the seed of Abraham: “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:29). The blessing of Abraham is at work in you, and that blessing guarantees your prosperity, no matter where you find yourself in life, and gives you the advantage.

It was that blessing at work in Isaac that gave him the advantage, causing him to prosper exceedingly, wax great and make progress until he became the envy of the Philistines (Genesis 26:13-14). That blessing was what made him dig wells and find water where others had tried and failed. The blessing worked so much for him that in a time of drought, where others experienced no harvest, Isaac sowed in the same land and reaped a hundred fold harvest (Genesis 26:12).

Now, if the blessing could work so much for the folks in the Old Testament, and give them the advantage, then it certainly works much more for us today. This is the reason as a child of God you can never be disadvantaged; for you’re the blessed of the Lord! The blessing of Abraham is at work in you twenty-four hours a day.

This blessing was what gave Abraham the advantage when he parted ways with his nephew, Lot. Both men had flocks that were so large that the land they occupied couldn’t accommodate them together any longer. This caused strife between their herdsmen. Abraham wasn’t happy with this, so he called Lot and asked him to choose a part of the land where he could tend his own flocks separately to prevent their herdsmen from confronting each other. The Bible says, Lot chose the best part of the land, leaving the other part for his uncle, Abraham (Genesis 13:10-11).

Abraham didn’t care what part of the land he got for he knew he was a blessed man. By virtue of the covenant God made with him, he knew the whole world was his. We can also be like-minded for the world is ours through the blessing of Abraham.

Confession
I’m blessed with faithful Abraham, therefore I manifest blessings everywhere I go, and the blessing of God upon my life gives me the advantage; therefore I win today and every day, in Jesus’ Name.

Further Study
Genesis 28:3-4
And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people; And give thee the blessing of Abraham, to thee, and to thy seed with thee; that thou mayest inherit the land wherein thou art a stranger, which God gave unto Abraham.

Galatians 3:29
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Daily Scripture Reading
1 Year Bible Matthew 26:57-75
Reading plan Exodus 36-37

2 Year Bible Matthew 13:24-33
Reading Plan Genesis 40

Rhapsody of Realities Pastor Anita Oyakhilome
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