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asalimpo:
^^^^
philosophically speaking, the question of "A design doesnt require a designer"
can be converted to this categorical question:
Can a complex or simple system exist without a creator/designer?
ignoring the question "wat is a system?"
the burden will be on the person sayg it is impossible to support his answer with understood examples.

To strenghten his answer,he'll appeal to "systems" in real life:
physcal systems,ideological systems ,abstract systems.
But since we are debating about a physcal system-the earth here - his example will hav to b physcal and complex.
Since there is no such example, the philosophical position must agree with an acceptable example or crumble.
It still boils down to d same thing.
A (complex) system cannot exist without a designer

Good so you are saying that


1) A complex system can not exist without a designer
2) Something as complex as the universe has to have a designer



But you forget that

3) God, who is supposed to have created the complex universe has to have an even more complex mind
4) Which means that God is very complex
5) Which finally means that God too must have a designer





I dont know why christians hardly see the logical conclusion of their arguments

Misogynist2014:
Interesting. Pls elaborate on that, cos what you just said is worse than magic. At least we see the magician and his bag. Pls elaborate, pls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You sef dey here?

ihedinobi2:
Hi

This is a normal phase in the pursuit of God. I will explain more clearly later today. Just hang in there, bro.

Still waiting...........................

kevoh:
Na wa oooo

Bobbysworld28:
No be u talk am? I believe in Christ!

You believe in a dead Jew?

ghostofsparta:
Click HERE to read and see what those who are even closer to the originator of this particular Abrahamic religion are writing and expressing it as. Unlike anti-atheist, anti-ATR forum called Nairaland where mooslims and their moderators are given privilege, Logic, remember I once told you the seun is a mooslima, a konk one for that matter who hides under the hijab of indifference which you can be mistaken for atheism.

lol...Seun is not a muslim.

but he is scared of terrorists.....

Bobbysworld28:
Ridiculous? What I find ridiculous is a definition of atheism dt tends to twist the laws of English. Fortunately, u finally declared u were a partial agnostic (whatever that means).
Its all good. I found it quite enlightening battling with u. A lot was clarified (most of which were quite funny) but I was able to gain a better perpective into the confusion in ur minds

Agnostic atheist?


You are the one confused. What do you believe in?

ramdris:
Why are u so dumb, must we continue making agitation along religious line all d time? This is d same religion our useless leaders used to bring disunity amongst us n yet we the new generation are still carrying the baton. What hope den for our dear Nation?

Calm down and look at the op's point!

Bobbysworld28:
Yes the views on the philosophical circus termed atheism.

So far, the only thing that has been proven to be a farce is your ridiculous rant against atheism

MacCantStopMe:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1793179_redditvnairaland_png30a1dba1e9586b1c283c144ba1760236

Funny how they keep closing threads on this issue

Kay17:
Can we go back to the Glamour of Atheism?

And what glamour would that be? The op's nonsensical views about atheism?

Igbohater:
E nor go beta for u and ur family. Is it a must the OP must serve your dumb God? Where in the thread did you notice that the OP is trying to scam anyone You are a pained looser who has been fvcked on credit and need someone to pour ur frustration on. Dirty smell pucssy. Nonsense

you are a real hater.

ihedinobi2:
What on earth are you talking about?

MacCantStopMe:
FrancisTony and Ihedinobi,
why is it that people (incuding you) are very biased and vindictive with their likes and shares?

#I know

FrancisTony and Ihedinobi,

why is it that people (incuding you) are very biased and vindictive with their likes and shares?

ihedinobi2:
Don't I always?

no

ihedinobi2:
LESSON TWELVE...

What is the Christ chosen for?

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

That's Psalm 2:6. It is well advised to read the whole psalm. You see, it talks about the Christ and what it is relative to everything else.

God calls the Christ His King. And it does appear that his dominion covers pretty much everything. This king is set over every power that exists on earth at least, judging by the words of this psalm.

And his authority? It's ABSOLUTE.

That's what the Christ is chosen for: Government. He governs God's world for Him just like Joseph ruled Egypt for the Pharoah.

If you consider that men create mountains of human corpses just to get to the "top of the world", then you have some idea how much this position is worth to human beings.

But why does God not govern directly? Why look for a representative, right? Are you asking that question too?

hehehe....you have started again.

For once, you pre-empted my counterargument........


WHY DOES GOD USE ILLITERATES TO SPREAD HIS MESSAGE? CANT HE DO IT HIMSELF?

LordReed:
Premium Times quotes a FRSC report as was clearly stated in the article if you had read it. Premium Times did not claim to have generated the statistics by themselves. If you can choose to believe The Economist doing the very same thing then your a hypocrite.

You are deluded if you think drivers are more careful in the US. The saving grace is the emergency services available.

DRIVERS IN AMERICA ARE MORE EDUCATED. DRIVING TEST MUST BE PASSED BEFORE GETTING LICENSE AND THERE IS NO BRIBE WHEN CAUGHT DRIVING WITHOUT LICENSE.

Accidents happen more in America because there are more drivers, cars and roads in America.

However, if we were to use percentages and factor in population sizes, I am sure that the accident situation in Nigeria will be worse

Dopeyomi:
If уσυ instruct уσυя kid to do something and he disobeys wunt уσυ punish him


And later call him back and talk some senses to his head..


While on earth we sin to GOD but when уσυ ask for forgiveness he will forgive уσυ but at the point of death there is no repentance!



Уσυ have the whole life time to adjust yourself ..



Yσυ obey his commandments and уσυ enjoy eternity in heaven with him



Yσυ disobey his commandments and уσυ suffer eternity in hell with satan!




Simple.

lol.....think about it........


99% of your ancestors as a Yoruba man were pagans, would you be happy watching them burn in hell while you are in heaven?



Also, shouldnt punishment meet the crime? You wouldnt shoot your younger brother with a shotgun just because he stole your clothes. Why would it then make sense to burn someone in fire for a million years just for about 60 years (a lifetime) of sin?

Dopeyomi:
Another quote related to atheism



"There is no heaven or hell"



Why do muslims ßєlîєνє there's heaven(alujana)
Why do christians ßєlîєνє there's heaven


These are questions уσυ should ask yourself.


Even traditional worshippers ßєlîєνє there is heaven!

What if they are all wrong? None of them have been to heaven!!!

Sit down and think; does heaven/hell make sense?

When you are in heaven, will you be comfortable seeing your great grandparents (who were probably pagans) in hell?

What about hell? What kind of wicked God puts someone to burn for all eternity?

Dopeyomi:
What atheist ßєlîєνє is that after death that's the end.


Buh i̶̲̥̅̊'m̶̲̥̅̊ telling уσυ this after death is either;


You enjoy eternity



Or уσυ suffer till eternity!

Nope....there is no heaven or hell.