₦airaland Forum

sgtponzihater1:
A man attended Dental school and came out as a dentist, yet he rather live a lie on nairaland claiming medical school experience, rather than Dental school experience.

The biggest problem I see with the average black man is the craze for titles and position.

Medicine is not as rewarding as it used to be a Decade ago. Most Medical doctors cannot afford to rent an apartment in Ikoyi or in an affluent neighborhood, yet charlatans who studied allied health profession like Dentistry, optometrists keep pretending to be medical doctors, rather than accepting to be Dental Surgeons or optometrists as the case may be.

This post could have served its purpose to inspire aspiring dentist, but it ended up highlighting the gross inferiority of allied health professionals, and the typical pride that has eroded the Nigerian health system.

All the best champ.

Vicoymi:
Dear nairalanders
I need matured advice seasoned with evidence
So this year I wrote utme and got 219 as a score due to some technical issues we encountered at the center and I was not able to write a subject out of four, so I would do better next year.
I put nursing as my prospective course and unizik as first choice.But wasn't able to process it due to some inconveniences.
I would be filling for next year jamb
Which federal University would be easier to get admission in (I'm from South East Nigeria)?and among science lab, nursing and radiography which would be best in terms of job opportunity and pay?
Those with experience I need your counsel please

Lordsagna:
Unilag just released cut off mark...guess what, I'm 1.875 below catchment... just feel like dying it's just like everything is against me, I actually prepared really hard for this exam but luck wasn't on my side... I'm really depressed and down
Had 285 in jamb, 26.25 in putme and 16 in Olevel 1.875 just destroyed everything I've worked for....

Acecards:
she was trying to say the people affected are not part 3 or mb3.
It's premb class which is equivalent to part 2 that were affected.

Alexaonfleek:
Its premb set o not MB3 set

Miracood2:
Explain

vchinedu01:
So guys I want to see the oppion you have on brushing your tooth before eating or after eating which is more hygienic and why ?


I have watched so many foreign movies where you see people eat before brushing their tooth and the feel so relaxed over this, the other day I just felt I should try this and see how it feels and it was more comfortable for me in a way but my sister wasn't happy with this, she rather called me a dirty boy ..... I then asked her what's bad about what I did and why? But she couldn't really give me a good reason why it is.
We all know at times brushing your mouth can make you get hungry faster without even doing any activity yet

So guys I need your opinions between brushing before eating and after eating and please give reasons for your opinion

Mzangina:
I'm BDS II student from Unimaid

Homosapiens20x:
1..The pancreas produces the hormone insulin and secretes it into the bloodstream, where it regulates the body's glucose or sugar level. So pancreas is your answer..

2..Agglutination is the clumping of particles. ... When people are given blood transfusions of the wrong blood group, the antibodies react with the incorrectly transfused blood group and as a result, the erythrocytes(RBC) clump up and stick together causing them to agglutinate. So using the ABO system we have A B AB and O.. Now anti A serum will clump with A and will not clump with anti B serum...
For B..no clumping in anti A serum and clumping occurs at anti B serum..
AB...clumping at anti A serum and clumping at anti B serum..
For O...no clumping at anti A serum likewise anti B serum...
Note this contrasting antibody clump as well as contrasting antigens...so I think A is your answer..

Snowale:
In the whole UK, dentist are not called Doctors. You can search about it, some countries call dentists doctors, while others does not(only medical doctors and PhDs are referred to doctors).

Search B.Dent at Trinity college Dublin, you think it's all universities and countries in the world that accept D.Dent or DDS, many schools still offer B.Dent and not D.Dent, some other use B.Dsc. B.Dsc. search bachelor of dental Science or dental health science at University of Griffith check out Laura Waldie, and bachelor in dental Science in the university of Queensland., https://www.wits.ac.za/course-finder/undergraduate/health/dental-science/, that's university of witwatersrand, Johannesburg, chec out about their BDsc, eventhough Pharmacy and Dentistry hasn't been accepted in all university, soon it would be like vet and medicine. Pharm.D is a new department and it will take years for the all schools around the globe to follow the trend, D.Dent or DDS is very old, and many schools and have countries accepted it, but not totally all, I also believe every universities will also follow the trend soon. It's still a 5 years course in some schools from the strart just like Pharmacy. Optometry is also a 5 years course in many countries also, but as time goes on every countries world follow the trend.

Dentistry will always be a branch of medicine and will never be as broad as medicine and pharmacy. Everything you do must be related to a small portion of the body. You have just 5 main sub-departments, because you are a department yourselves. Any other sub-departments apart from this 5 are just micro departments that is more on paper than in real life.

And the last thing, if you think only human medicine graduates can become a medical director of an health care everywhere in the world because it's common in Nigeria, then you are not current. Pharm.D is a new program, and very soon, we would fight for CMD, now there are commissioner of health that are not medical doctors, abroad it's very common. With the new pharm.D and OD, be expecting good things coming from JOHESU, we will fight for more power. Check David Pryor of Atens-Limestone hospital, who is a Pharmacist, Check Stephanie Bloom of Chilton medical care and atlantic health system, Amy Price, A nurse, of Coosa valley medical center who is the Second in command, the CPO and CNO, the first in command is the CEO, Glenn C. Sisk who isn't a medical doctor. If you want me to continue I can, Abroad Pharmacist, optometrist, Nurses and other health care professionals are becoming medical director of hospitals and clinics. You think every country is like Nigeria, I believe Nigeria is changing, gradually all this things would change.

mannyiyke:
Pathology laboratory, whether, it's oral or general pathology, is not under the jurisdiction of medical laboratory science. It's under the charge of doctors and dentists who are pathologists. They have the right to set up pathology labs. There's no private general or oral pathology laboratory in Nigeria. They're all owned by government or private hospitals. And in every big government or private hospital in Nigeria, there must be a general or oral pathology laboratory. Your problem is that you're ignorant. For your information, I'm not a dental student; I'm a medical student. Every secondary government hospital has a dental clinic. General hospitals are secondary healthcare facility, and all of them have fully functional dental departments, but may not have oral pathology laboratory because of underfunding. Also, general hospitals do not have general pathology laboratory. It's only tertiary government hospitals like teaching hospitals and federal medical centres that have general and oral pathology laboratories. Go and make your finding and stop confusing yourself. Besides, 16 general pathologists compared to 4 oral pathologists are very poor in number. Give me the links where you saw 16 general pathologists and 4 oral pathologists working at LUTH. They're in charge of other parts of the body other than mouth and maxillofacial region. ENT Surgeons also send their biopsy samples to oral pathologists. You're not in the same system, and you don't know better than I do. They also send to general pathologists who subspecialized in head and neck pathology. See the link: https://www.ada.org/sitecore/content/home-ada/publications/ada-news/2013-archive/august/early-detection-advocate-cites-oral-pathologists-as-essential-to-precancer-diagnosis . I couldn't paragraph my comment because my battery is running down.

Maid007:
Wait, did u even read what I wrote up there? And all u could come up with is this?
I asked u a question, in which country is a dentist not a doctor? You didn't answer that...Just to clear the air, dentists have always been a doctors by virtue of their practice (since inception), we didn't need to add the Dr. title.
I gave u a lot of educational materials up there, and u couldn't even comprehend? It's a shame.
I now understand that u don't read to understand, you just read to reply.
I laughed when u talked about broadness. Dentistry is broader than you think.
One more thing, in which country is a pharmacist the chief medical director? Or is there now a different meaning to the acronym "CMD" that I don't know of? Name one country and the name of the person.
If u can't answer the above questions, go and sleep. I have seen how you argue, it's wack.

Snowale:
spill the bad side what!!! Or just spill out your Ignorance.

When they make mistake during surgeries, they keep shut, they don't broadcast it. But, by the time they luckily carry out God's plans on their patients, they broadcast it, if he was taught to do it and it was successful, then what's the big deal, why not celebrate it once and stop, why broadcasting it to intimidate other. We won't hear about those that died in there hands out of their mistake, the only one we hear is the few ones they got right.

All courses have bad sides. some are worse. Pharmacy is a very noble profession.

Snowale:
I meant optometrist. They are also doctors, just like dentists. They both treat patients, they also diagnose, and manage diseases. Abroad, they are allowed to consult just like dentists.

Dentistry wasn't an academic doctorate degree from the start, just like pharmacy. Now we can call graduates of both doctors. Even some countries abroad don't awards doctorate to dental graduates.

You are giving instsinsof where a dentist did his job, he was praised. Pharmacist, Nurses, scientists have also been praised for what the did right.

He carried out his surgery and it was successful, then what's the big deal, he did his job well

Snowale:
Dentistry is just like pharmacy, Graduates from your department were not awarded Doctors initially. Even till now it hasn't be approved in some countries, like India, dentistry is a 4 years course, + 1 year internship. Not even up to B.pharm. and other countries, pharm.D hasn't being approved in some countries also.

Over the years, Pharmacists also strived to make it as prestigious as it is today. DDS might be older than Pharm.D, but put this in mind, pharmacist are spreading their boundaries faster than you think, it's not only Dentistry that is developing. And very soon, they will get more than the respect they get today.

Dental surgery will always be a branch of medicine, and pharmacy will never be. It's has branches also. And as time goes on, you will know that Pharm.D isn't what we are chasing, we are chasing something bigger. Dentist are now CMD's, Pharmcist Doctors are also becoming CMDs and many more. You can't tell me that ordinary dentistry is broader than pharmacist, All most all you do can be done by medical doctors, and in some countries, medical doctors does it all.

Snowale:
I meant optometrist. They are also doctors, just like dentists. They both treat patients, they also diagnose, and manage diseases. Abroad, they are allowed to consult just like dentists.

Dentistry wasn't an academic doctorate degree from the start, just like pharmacy. Now we can call graduates of both doctors. Even some countries abroad don't awards doctorate to dental graduates.

You are giving instsinsof where a dentist did his job, he was praised. Pharmacist, Nurses, scientists have also been praised for what the did right.

He carried out his surgery and it was successful, then what's the big deal, he did his job well

ejehijustice:
Was 272 his average or his Jamb score, I would appreciate you elucidate more on this.
While his score is very low, I feel if he reach the average cut off mark irrespective of his Jamb score, he would be admitted. Based on the cut off mark of 260 last year... If he can make an average of 260 by scoring up to 320+ in post UTME, he would be in... The challenge is in hitting that high in post UTME.
Unical don't use Jamb score alone but average of both Jamb and post UTME.

dunsin125:
It's not really about the years but the interest. Do you have interest in a particular aspect of medicine, then choose medicine and if you love the teeth, choose dentistry but the summary is this do what you will love doing .

DonJ7:
Hello Senior colleagues in the house..

Pls i need ur advice ...

D.E 200L Dentistry or 100L Medicine.

Don't vex pls, just seeking an enlightenment...

mathew4r:
Hello fellow nairlanders. Can 190 in jamb get admission to study dentistry in unical if I work harder in post utme
Please I need answer

chewwie:
Ophthalmologists are real doctors. Dentists and optometrists are not. Period. You think that by repeating "Dental Surgery" I'll fall on my knees and pay homage. You guys don't do half of what real doctors do.

chewwie:
How many times did you apply for Medicine and Surgery before finally settling for dentistry? Dentists, optometrists and vets aren't real doctors though.

sgtponzihater1:
Grabbing popcorn is a good way of saying; "Ponzi hater ain't actually lying". Good option too

sgtponzihater1:
Thanks. Someone will definitely see the truth, and hold on to it. I never expected Dentists to agree with me, but the public are more aware now.

The so-called investigation are also quite baseless. Taking a swipe at Doctors does not stop you from being one. The boys who where holding the residency matter on their heads and were shrugging shoulder with the aid of their 11th cranial nerve are all out of the country now, and have said more unprintable things about the Nigerian health system.

When people are in a hole they leave the subject, and cling on to baseless things like the OP and his cronies, who have helped to derail the thread badly

Fyi0:
Whether the guy is a doctor or not is secondary to the discussion. There's no need to deviate into ad honinem attacks. His points are valid nonetheless.

sgtponzihater1:
How do those links disqualify me from being a Doctor. MBBS is a bachelor's degree and seeking master's is not out of place. Several Doctors doing PP run a one week on and one week off basis. Also, being a Nigerian trained Doctor will not make me ignore the ills in the Medical profession as it stands in Nigeria, and make well founded criticism if need be. Cheers

sgtponzihater1:
We don't measure intelligence by hauling expletives at peoples. Tourette's syndrome patients do that but its genetic. Stand up, take up your bed and start walking, that's the only advice I give to people holding on to a professional that have moved on decades ahead in advanced climes.

If saying being a BDS and MBBS are totally different courses, and BDS is not a subspecialty of Medicine is anyway, but a unique course with it's own subspecialty is my crime, and makes me unintelligent, then my unintelligence supersedes the wisdom of many holding on to a lie and heading on a deadly collision course

ictty:
I am very very sure this sgtponzihater is not a Doctor. He has being jumping from one thread to another like a scavenger looking for meat to chop.. Plzzz dont reply him again..

He is LIAR.
Infact he is the real LIE, he will keep changing the topic. I dont know when you turn to a Doctor.
Unless you want to tell me that your own MBBS is a 3month course

I repeat he is not a Doctor ooo and he can never be a doctor.. Read his post from other thread, you will confirm wat am saying...

I repeat he is not a doctor, he is just looking for attention he know nothing about medical school. He think Google is everything, and still he keep confusing himself more.

OBGEE:
Hello everyone, most esp to all dental students and those already in the field.
I'm a newly admitted dental student.
I love the course considering it doesn't deal with the teeth alone and there are specialties that i had read which i find interesting.
My problem now is, a lot of people keep discouraging me each time they hear its dentistry. Some say that other para medics are better than dentist, some say it is difficult to get a job, some say the pay is very poor unless in a govt hospital etc...a lot of negative comments, i don't know if some are saying it out of hate lol. Though I'm not moved because i know what i want.
Please i need more enlightenment on the course dental surgery and its future prospect in Nigeria. Thanks.
Contributions from all medical personnel is welcomed.

Fyi0:
LOL.. Medical students and hype. Nothing come out las las.
Pharmacy courses are more numerous, bulkier and more complex. So?