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Islam for Muslims / Is Islam Really Incompatible/unrelated To Terrorism? by MajorJ(m): 3:35am On Mar 16, 2013
Answer: NOO
The Myth:

Islam is completely incompatible with acts of terrorism. It is against Islam to kill innocent people.

The Truth:

Islam does prohibit killing innocent people. Unfortunately, you don't qualify.

Even though many Muslims earnestly believe that their religion prohibits the killing of innocent people by acts of terrorism, the truth is certainly more complicated. This is why Muslims on both sides of the terror debate accuse the other of hijacking Islam while insisting that they are the true believers. It is also why organizations that commit horrible atrocities in the name of Allah, such as Hamas and Hezbollah, receive a significant amount of moral and financial support from the mainstream.

In fact, the definition of "terrorism" in Islam is ambiguous at best. And the definition of an “innocent person” in Islam isn't something that Muslim apologists advertise when they say that such persons aren't to be harmed. The reason for this is that anyone who rejects Muhammad is not considered to be innocent according to Islamic teaching.

Consider that a great deal of the Quran is devoted to describing the horrible punishment that awaits those who refuse to become Muslim. How then can Muslims say that the subjects of divine wrath are innocent persons?

The most protected and respected of all non-Muslims are the dhimma, the “people of the book.” Specifically , these would be Jews and Christians who agree to Islamic rule and pay the jizya (tribute to Muslims). Yet, the word “dhimmi” is derived from an Arabic root that means “guilt” or "blame." ["...the dhimmi parent and sister words mean both 'to blame' as well as safeguards that can be extended to protect the blameworthy" Amitav Ghosh, "In an Antique Land"].

So, if even the dhimma have a measure of guilt attached to their status (by virtue of having rejected Allah’s full truth), how can non-Muslims who oppose Islamic rule or refuse to pay the jizya be considered “innocent?”

Even within the Islamic community there is a category of Muslims who are also said to bear guilt – greater, even, than the average non-believer. These are the hypocrites, or “Munafiqin,” whom Muhammad referred to in the most derogatory terms. A hypocrite is considered to be a Muslim in name only. They are distinguished from true Muslims, according to the 9th Sura, by an unwillingness to wage (v.81, 86) or fund (v.121) holy war. True believers fight and are harsh to unbelievers (v.123).

The Muslim terrorists who frequently kill "other Muslims" in the name of Allah do so believing that their victims are Munafiqin or kafir (unbelievers). This is a part of Sharia known as takfir, in which a Muslim can be declared an apostate and then executed for their role in hindering the expansion of Islamic authority. (A true Muslim would go to paradise anyway, in which case he or she could hardly be expected to nurse a grudge amidst the orgy of sex and wine).

In addition to the murky definition of innocence, there is also the problem of distinguishing terrorism from holy war. Islamic terrorists rarely refer to themselves as terrorists, but usually say that they are holy warriors (Mujahideen, Shahid, or Fedayeen). They consider their acts to be a form of Jihad.

Holy war is commanded in the Quran and Hadith. In Sura 9:29, Muhammad establishes the principle that unbelievers should be fought until they either convert to Islam or accept a state of humiliation under Islamic subjugation. This is confirmed in the Hadith by both Sahih Muslim and Bukhari.

In many places, the prophet of Islam says that Jihad is the ideal path for a Muslim, and that believers should “fight in the way of Allah.” There are dozens of open-ended passages in the Quran that exhort killing and fighting – far more than there are of peace and tolerance. It is somewhat naïve to think that their inclusion in this "eternal discourse between God and Man" was of historical value only and not intended to be relevant to present-day believers, particularly when there is little to nothing within the text to distinguish them in such fashion.

Combine the Quran's exhortation to holy war with the ambiguity of innocence and a monumental problem develops that cannot be patched over by mere semantics. Not only is there a deep tolerance for violence in Islam, but also a sharp disagreement and lack of clarity over the conditions that justify this violence - and just whom the targets may be.

Even many of those Muslims who claim to be against terrorism still support the “insurgency” in Iraq, for example, and often entertain the allegation that there is a broader “war against Islam.” Although American troops in Iraq were trying to protect innocent life and help the country rebuild, Muslims around the world and in the West believe that it was legitimate for true believers to try and kill them.

Enjoying the sanction of holy war, the Mujahid thus reasoned that it is permissible to attack fellow Iraqis – the ones helping the Americans - even if they are part of a democratically-elected Iraqi government. These non-combatants and combatants alike are believed to be the “Munafiqin” or "Takfir" assisting the enemy “Crusaders.”

Although we use Iraq as an example here, this is the same rationale that is ultimately behind all Islamic terror, from the Philippines to Thailand. Wherever the Muslim religion is a minority, there are always radicals who believe that violence is justified in bringing Islam to dominance - just as Muhammad taught and set by example in Mecca and other places, such as the land of al-Harith.

And what of the so-called “innocents” who suffer from the bombings and shootings? Even in Muhammad’s time they were unavoidable. The much-touted hadith in which Muhammad forbade the killing of women, for example, also indicates that there were such casualties in his attacks on other tribes.

If there is any doubt that he believed that the forbidden is sometimes necessary, it should be put to rest by an incident in which Muhammad's men warned him that a planned night raid against an enemy camp would mean that women and children would be killed. He merely replied “they are of them,” meaning the men.

This is the slippery slope opened by the sanction of holy war. What starts out as the perception of a noble cause of self-defense against a supposed threat gradually devolves into a "let Allah sort them out" campaign through a series of logical steps that are ultimately justified by the sublime goal of Islamic rule.

Islam is not intended to co-exist as an equal with other religions. It is to be the dominant religion with Sharia as the supreme law. Islamic rule is to be extended to the ends of the earth and resistance is to be dealt with by any means necessary.

Apologists in the West often shrug off the Quran's many verses of violence by saying that they are relevant only in a “time of war.”

To this, Islamic terrorists would agree. They are at war.
More ISLAM MYTHS:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Myths-of-Islam.htm

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Religion / Difference Between JESUS And MUHAMMAD/ALLAH by MajorJ(m): 3:26am On Mar 16, 2013
"Allah:"
"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who
disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads
and strike off every fingertip of them."
(Qur'an 8:12)

Muhammad:
"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and
kill those who disbelieve in Allah."
(Ibn Ishaq 992)

Jesus:
"Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 5:14)

MORE: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Jesus-Muhammad.htm

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Islam for Muslims / Woman Accused Of Attacking Islam By Preaching Bible Gets Jail Sentence In Dubai by MajorJ(m): 3:14am On Mar 16, 2013
A woman accused of attacking Islam by preaching the bible on the streets of Abu Dhabi has been jailed.

Abu Dhabi Criminal Court yesterday handed out the three-month sentence to the Indian woman after she was found guilty of proselytising and handing out copies of the text on the streets of the UAE capital.

Court records show that an Arab man reported the woman to police after he saw her preaching on Al Najda Street.


Abu Dhabi Criminal Court yesterday handed out the three-month sentence to the Indian woman.

The man told prosecutors he asked the woman what the book was and she replied it was a “special book” that cured disease and said that it was “so beneficial”.

Source:http://www.7daysindubai.com/Woman-accused-attacking-Islam-gets-month-sentence/story-18402672-detail/story.html


Before Court:
A woman has been accused of attacking Islam by preaching about the bible on the streets of Abu Dhabi.

Abu Dhabi Criminal Court was told yesterday that an Arab man reported the Indian woman to the police after he discovered she was telling a group of people on Al Najda Street about the importance of the bible and giving out copies of the Christian text.

The man told prosecutors he asked the woman what the book was and she replied it was a “special book” that cured disease and was “so beneficial”.


Abu Dhabi Criminal Court has heard how a woman was telling people about the 'importance of the bible' and handing out copies of the Christian text in Al Najda Street

The Arab man said he asked the woman if the book was the Quran, to which he says she replied: “It’s a Bible and is much better than the Quran.”

The Indian woman, who came to the UAE in December, also alleged her family had been blessed by the bible and that it protects people from evil spirits. The man says she then started showing him photos of her smiling relatives. However, the Indian woman denies attacking Islam and distributing bibles.

She told the court: “I never distributed bibles. I gave him a copy of the bible in Arabic only to have a look.” She also said she did not preach in the street or say anything against Islam.

She added: “I only had three copies of the bible, one in Arabic, one in Bengali and one in Urdu,” she said.

The case was adjourned.
Source:http://www.7daysindubai.com/Woman-court-attacking-Islam/story-18257902-detail/story.html

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Politics / Re: My Oga At The Top; Was It Really Obvious He Is Yoruba? by MajorJ(m): 2:21am On Mar 16, 2013
Oga at the top is a boss

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Islam for Muslims / Why are mulsim countries intolerant of other religions by MajorJ(m): 2:02am On Mar 16, 2013
Has anyone else noticed that in many non-majority muslim countries, mainly in the west, mulims are allowed to build mosques, and freely worship, infact when they protest nobody does anything about it, the governments usually bow to thier worship, but now lets go to the middle east, there is hardly any churches, some mid east countries even ban bible, most christains face persecution, but yet many people come out and say islam is a religion of peace.
If Islam is a religion of peace, why can't they let other people worship thier own God, allover Europe, especially in France and U.K. two countries with Christain Majority, the muslims are allowed to worship freely, no persecution no laws banning them, but in the Mid-East its Opposite. We elect muslim and northern officials, they force us to elect their brothers and fellow muslim brothers/sisters, but have you ever once heard of a muslim country electing a christain to high political office?
So back to my question, Why are muslim countries so intolerant of other cultures, other ideologies, and other religions?
P.S: I don't know if this is right section, and Mod, if you really are fair and impartial, then you will not hide my thread.

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Nairaland / General / Re: How Do I Make Front Page? by MajorJ(m): 1:57am On Mar 16, 2013
Just post about toto dikeh, anything about her makes front page
I think she bribed Nairalands oga at the top

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Travel / Re: When Did Peckham (In London) Get Annexed By Nigeria? by MajorJ(m): 6:01am On Mar 15, 2013
lol always hearing people talking about Peckham, that place must be terrible

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Politics / Re: Jonathan Nominates Akinkuotu As Demuren’s Replacement by MajorJ(m): 1:59am On Mar 15, 2013
Abegii somebody help me askt his mods why they are hiding my post, it was an anti-tribalistic post for jesus' sake, why why do u like ur fellow nigerian being called oily soup?

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Webmasters / Re: Google To Kill Google Reader by MajorJ(m): 12:47am On Mar 15, 2013
Oga at the top says it is Bleep GOOGLE
Family / Re: Will You Allow Your Child To Pose With Alcohol Bottle? by MajorJ(m): 4:44pm On Mar 14, 2013
No seriously how does dis afffect the prize of garri
Car Talk / Re: Accident On Third Mainland Bridge This Morning by MajorJ(m): 8:01pm On Mar 13, 2013
I think that is Innoson OH
Islam for Muslims / Re: Christian Homes Burnt By Muslim Mobs In Pakistan by MajorJ(m): 7:56pm On Mar 13, 2013
vedaxcool:

blame your christain brothers for the intimidation






lol grin this is what i wrote:





Now the op went furtherand made a case against Islam and I pointed the inherent hypocrisy: which is what did christians do when:

- Palestein Christians are being chased from their homes Answer they shut their mouths and closed their eyes

- When Christains murdered each other to the tune of 900, 000 Answer they shut their mouths and closed their eyes

- Congo rape capital of world christains are silent over what their own fellow christians are suffering Answer they shut their mouths and closed their eyes

and yes the catholic church instigated the pogroms against the jews for Killing Jesus, every Easter Christian ran mad and start screaming they killed our God they killed our God (wow what a weak god that is)

Burning people property is Islamic right? Yeah they homosexuality and child molestation is the gift of catholicsm to the world! what a joker you are!


Sorry to say but you are not a very intelligent fellow
How many times has Christain Killed ANY muslim because Jesus told them to
ok, u say they kill each other, at least they don't kill other religions, because of blasphemy
You remeber the Da Vinci Code, How many people got killed again for that book? Zero
Now just last year, in the 21st century, how many humans got killed, how many cars got destroyed, how many buildings got burned, because of a video that More than half of your muslim brothers never even saw? Thousands


OHh and by the way, u might call God a weak GOd, but u really don't want to mess with him, yeah they killed Jesus, its a prophesy in the bible, did he attack back, nope but if somebody as much as slapped one of ur imams, you know what will happen.

Ohh and mods abeg move this away from muslim section, to christain please, it concerns both christains and muslims, no partiality here

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