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Empiree:
I like to see where Luke agreed with Matthew. Luke and Matthew gave different account of the incident. Now dont derail this thread. I only responded quickly to your fellow christian who claim bible is infallible

Luke gospel did not record the death of judas meaning Luke did not witnesses it HE pay attention to the life of Jesus christ.

It was in acts that Luke later record it but he did not record judas hanging meaning he did not witnesses it but he witnesses the dead body.
Here is acts account:

Acts 1:18-19 Now THIS man purchased
a field with the reward of INEQUITY;
and FALLING headlong, he burst
asunder in the midst, and all his
bowels gushed out. And it was known
unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem;
insomuch as that field is called in
their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is
to say, The field of blood.

From where did judas body fall from?as a matter of fact acts account was a teaching, why did Luke used the word inequity? It mean Luke was teaching FROM the actual event in MATTHEW.

Empiree:
Nonsense!. you contradicted your Bible scholars. Their commentary contradicts yours just like I said to your fellow christian on rilwayne's thread. And their commentaries contradict each other as well.

nonsense, show me were Luke deny judas was hang?

vedaxcool:
Oponu, this is what your link says;

The exact location is unknown and impossible to determine. It is generally identified with Mount Quarantania, Arabic name: Jabal al-Qarantal, a mountain approximately 366 metres (1,201 ft) high, towering from the northwest over the town of Jericho in the West Bank.

Ur link is saying in essence we don't know where this bullssasshit came from. Compounding ur dull understanding of the bible it says highest mountain, that nonesense u posted cannot even bee called a mountain as a mountain starts fron 600m your hill is below 400. Lol

Mathew seeing what u have done.

fool, that is the mountain but the exact location is impossible to determined, the mountain is large.

Empiree:
Hanging:[/b]to attach or place something so that it is held up without support from below

: to decorate (a surface) by hanging something (such as a picture) on it

: to put (wallpaper) on a wall
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hang

[b]Falling & headlong: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/falling
https://www.google.com/search?q=Falling+headlong&oq=Falling+headlong&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8#q=headlong

do you know the meaning of contradiction at all? Matthew say Judas hang himself and Luke account in acts did not deny judas hang himself.

Empiree:
Let's see

How Did Judas Die Bible Answered:

Matthew 27:5
"Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and [size=15pt]hanged himself"[/size]

Acts 1:18
"Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out."

You want more

just as scholar say, no contradiction in here.Matthew 27:1-10 mentioned the fact that Judas died by hanging himself in order to be strictly factual. Luke, however in his
report in Acts1:18-19 wants to cause the
feeling of revulsion among his readers,
for the field spoken about and for Judas, and nowhere denies that Judas died by hanging. According to tradition, it would seem that Judas hanged himself on the edge of a cliff, above the Valley of Hinnom. Eventually the rope snapped, was cut or untied and Judas fell upon the field below as described by Luke.

vedaxcool:
Lol What is the name of the Mountain? If u no sabi ask u younger brother make him helep u.




Name of mountain N100k is yours.

read here the mountain are here with picture, N100k is your life saving?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_of_Temptation

Rilwayne001:
Really?



The underlined shows that you are not sure of what you are saying.




Therefore, jesus turning water to wine is also spiritual, isn't it?

Jesus walking on sea is also spiritual and not physical, isnt it?



So, if you are asked to jump from a building, they are talking spiritual and not physical, isn't it?



Help us search the internet and post the image of that mountain please.

NB: Please No robotic reply

I understand muhammed is an illiterate, but you are not my friend, soo turning water into wine is physical? Pleased what is the menu of this medicine? Did the people see the medicine he used?

Muhammed splitting the moon is it physical? How did it do it?

vedaxcool:
Let me understand u well, u mean if I go to judea there is a mountain I can see my house here in Nigeria ? Please what exactly is this mountain name or even address? It says the world kingdom unless once again mathew does Not know the difference between judea and the world. If u don't know just say so. Cause it seems u are begining to beg for mercy.

even my junior brother are laughing at your foolishness, did Islam did this to you?the mountain are there but everything that happened is spiritually, during the transfiguration on the mountain they see the GLORY of God, does this mean if you go to the mountain in Jerusalem you will still see the glory of God? Foolish thinking from a muslims, spiritual dead indeed!!!

Let me repeat my question.

I believe if I go to judea now, by the power of the most high God I will see the whole world.now, do you believe Allah can do it?

None of you guys were able to give a reasonable explanation here https://www.nairaland.com/2291243/muhammeds-doctrine-sin-what-does

DProDG:
Is that another way of saying you pick whatever suits you?

pick what? I believe in ALL the miracle that happened in the bible. The reason why atheists don't believe in spiritual realm is because science cannot search for evidence beyond this universe, everything end here, but what if you are wrong, science don't know all this, did science debunked the existence of spiritual realm? I want to see it proof pleased.

vedaxcool:
LolLol omo seeing frustration, why u self no ask pastor where the mountain dey? Abi na nama u be wey na only meh u sabi talk?

so you think am frustrated? You are deed wrong my friend, this thread was not to question the nature of God but men. The explanation given to you is simple, the world may be reffering to judea only but I don't think so because reading the first temptation and second you will know it spiritually happening because turning stone into bread and jump from the top all this is spiritual.but the mountain are there, go to judea in isreal you will see it, I believe people who go pilgrim may have experience it too.

DProDG:
I'm sincerely curious to know how someone who accepts creationism, virgin births, walking on water, turning water into wine and all that mumbo jumbo miracles can discern what is possible from what's not.

and I am sincerely curious to know why someone accepts we evolved from ape but cannot discern how DNA come about.the road to hell is pave with good intentions, the eyes is of no used when the mind is blind.

All what you wrote can be explained because our God is a miraculous God, he shut and no man open He close and no man open.there are miracle and spiritual power, but if you don't agreed, just take a seat, relax and wait for the day you die, you will see proof with your two naked eyes. Peace!!!

vedaxcool:
Oyibo repete, bros show me the mountain, and collect N100k.

fool, which mountain do you want me to show you? Go to judea and find it your self. Cowardice statement.

hatbricker:
But why are you muslims always looking for vain arguements where there is none? As far as i'm concerned the Bible is infallible. For more explanations, Read job 26:7 and Isaiah 40:22. There is no where it was recorded in that the mountain you are talking about is physical.



Islam is no religion of peace, even the most civil muslims still have some trait of violence in them consciously or subcontiously.

I tell you the truth, the question this muslims ask, it show they are spiritually dead, we the christians ASK question concerning the nature of Allah and muhammed, we question the deity of this gods. But there question always base on the written material of men which they can NEVER understand.

vedaxcool:
Yes, the bible said it is possible! Don't you guys say all things are possible?

If the words, all the kingdoms of the world, be taken in a literal sense, then this must have been a visionary representation of the WORLD, it is not possible for someone to stand in a mountain and view the rest of the world.


But if we take the world to mean only the land of JUDEA, and some of the surrounding nations, as it appears then it possible.

You mock me by saying it is possible according to my bible, YES, I agreed, let me return the question to you, can Allah do this? Show a man the rest of the WORLD through a mountain?

vedaxcool:
Mr. Criticise Islam you don't have any wisdom to share on this topic?

is it possible to stand un top of a mountain in Jerusalem and view the rest of the world? Don't worry my good friend, I am at work now, I will be back when I am less busy.

Scholar8200:
It is clearly stated in scripture that all the temptations took place while Jesus was in the Wilderness. Hence, the reference to both the Temple and Mountain were purely spiritual. Other samples of a similar occurence can be found in Ezekiel 8 and Ezekiel 36 (valley of dry bones). Prolonged fasting sans daily breaking (for those who know) exposes one to the spiritual realm easily where visions are the norm.(the word guides believers in recognising the source of those visions). A biblical study on visions will reveal that most visions suggest a course of action.

Weldon bro.

frank317:
lol... u sound like a zombie (no offense) you are just reciting some meaningless jargons. the purpose of God creating man is love? what kind of Love punishes those who reject him... Answer: selfish love.

we as humans are even asked to love our enemies, now the who should lead by example is punishing those who reject him. he must be a bad lover.

did you create your self? No,your father is the reason you exist and you are commanded to obey him and love him. God created you and give you the freewill of choice, if you chose to reject God, it's ok.

Assslayer:
You sound too based, if you need answers about DNA and evolution check the internet. Do you think the modern man and the primitive man are the same. Check the human anatomy, why do you think there is a hole in your caudal vertebrae ?

and if you need any proof of the virgin birth , ask google. Recently BBC broadcast some reality event that happened, some animals conceive without the consent of knowing a male.
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141219-spectacular-real-virgin-births

The recent Israeli-Hamas war sparked
huge protests in Europe and exposed a
growing epidemic of anti-Semitism. But
in an interview with CBN News before
the summer war between Israel and
Hamas, one British Muslim explained
how he became a Zionist just by checking
out the facts.
Kasim Hafeez is a Pakistani Muslim born,
raised and living in the United Kingdom.
"I was brought up around a lot of anti-
Israel feeling and especially from my
dad, very blatant and direct Israel hatred
and anti-Semitism," Hafeez told CBN
News.
As a university student, Hafeez
campaigned against the Jewish state,
joined protests and called for boycotts of
Israel. He said he was even willing to die
to free Palestine and rid the world of
Israel.
"My narrative was this: there was a
Palestinian state, the Jews came from
Europe, stole the land, and voila - Israel,"
Hafeez said.
Then he found Alan Dershowitz' book,
The Case for Israel and decided to read it
so he could refute what he thought was
"Zionist propaganda."
"I thought I'll buy it and be able to
disprove it because Israel has no case. I
know the history. I'm an expert in it all,"
he said.
"So I start reading this book, and the
most basic of facts about Israel and the
Jewish people I had no clue about. I
mean one of the most basic ones I came
across was a Palestinian state has never
existed," he added.
Profiles in Racism
And that was just the beginning. Two
years later Hafeez visited Israel but got
himself into trouble before he ever
entered the country.
"When you go to passport control and
they say, 'What is the purpose of your
visit?' just say you're here for a holiday.
Don't say, 'Well, I used to be anti-Semitic
and anti-Israel, now I'm not quite sure so
I thought I'd come and see what it's
like,'" he explained.
After eight hours in airport security,
Hafeez was allowed into Israel despite
his confession. But the time spent in
airport security was a real eye opener.
"It highlighted Israel's unique security
situation," he said. "Look it's not
politically correct to say this, it's not nice
to say this, but people from my
background, people with my kind of
name have an awful tendency of blowing
stuff up in Israel."
Kasim said he was also "treated with a lot
of respect" from the security agent who
repeatedly offered him coffee and was
very apologetic. He compared it to a trip
he had taken to Saudi Arabia four years
earlier.
"You want to see racism, go to Saudi
Arabia as a non-Arab," he said.
A Huge Surprise
After leaving the airport, Hafeez
encountered his next surprise when he
arrived in Jerusalem and saw the
different ethnic and religious groups
mixing in the city.
"Be it Muslims, be it people from African
heritage, be it European, be it people
from the Middle East—it's just such a
crazy mix of people. And then you see
the signs in English and Hebrew and
Arabic and it straight away blows away
that idea of apartheid and racism," he
said.
Hafeez said he wanted to know how
people from Arab backgrounds really felt
about living in Israel, so he asked various
people, saying it must be "so difficult for
you here."

"They look [at you] like you're mentally
ill. They look at you as if you have some
sort of problem because they look at you
like 'no it's actually fine here, we have no
problems here,'" he said, smiling.
He was even more confused when he
spoke to people who are Druze, a group
that has traditionally been persecuted in
the Middle East, he said. They told him,
"We love it here. You know, this is our
home. My son's in the IDF."
He realized he was seeing "the real Israel
you won't see in a lot of the Western
mainstream media."
He said nothing changes your mind like
seeing it for yourself.
Pro-Israel vs. Anti-Arab?
According to Hafeez, family and friends
initially thought Israel's Mossad secret
service had recruited him. Now some
have come around.
"There's this awful idea that people think
it's a zero-sum game, that if you stand up
for Israel, you're instantly anti-Arab. It's
ridiculous," he said.
"I have members of my family who are
quite supportive of Israel now, which is
nice. But with friends who have now
turned their views to be more supportive
of Israel, [they] wouldn't say it publicly,"
he added.
Hafeez said Muslims refuse to accept
Israel's existence in the middle of the
Arab world. Then there are conspiracy
theories and the pack mentality.
"It's kind of ingrained that there's this
global conspiracy by the Jews to destroy
Islam and take over the world," he said.
"It's really sad but this whole anti-Israel
cause has become very popular. It's seen
as the cool cause almost, and nobody
wants to kind of break off from the kind
of pack and be seen as an outsider," he
added, saying it was very difficult for him
to admit that he had been wrong.

A REVELATION ABOUT ISREAL;
Nevertheless, Hafeez said, he believes
it's possible for Muslims to have a
revelation about the Jews and Israel. But
to do so they must honestly assess what
they believe and be willing to embrace
reality.
They need to take a step back and look at
the world and what they stand for, he
said, and ask themselves if this
"irrational hatred over a group of myths"
they've been told is really worth giving
their lives for it. They need to ask
themselves if they really want peace.
"One of the most frustrating things for
me is within the Muslim community. We
have a double standard," he said. "We
judge Israel and America by one
standard, which we refuse to apply to
ourselves."
Asked if he thought God had played a
role in opening his eyes or giving him the
desire to ask questions, Hafeez said his
"a-ha" moment came at the Western Wall
in Jerusalem.
"I sincerely believe that things don't just
happen, everything happens for a
reason. I believe I'm on a particular path,
I don't know where the destination will
end, but I feel I'm very blessed to be
where I am," he told CBN News.
"Because it has changed my life for the
better, you know. It's beautiful to wake
up without this hatred, without this
anger, you know and I feel so lucky and
so blessed," he said. "Is it God? I don't
know. Maybe. It's very difficult to say."




http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/standing-with-israel/48158-former-muslim-it-s-beautiful-to-wake-up-without-this-hatred

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Assslayer:
Use your head my friend how long are Africans gonna remain gullible, how can they tell you a child emanate from a virgin and you accept that jargon, how can they tell you someone on earth resisted the power of gravity to walk on waters and to ascend to the sky without rockets and you believe. Your master Jesus said you will do even more after him, has any one of you tried one of those before ?

how can they tell you human evolve from ape when the cannot explained DNA and you believe this?

God is a spirit, he has power to do as He will, he shut and NO man open He open and NO man close.

freecocoa:
I seriously still wonder how any one with a right mind can believe let alone try to practice what's written in the bible.

Can't believe I used to believe it.

there is no were in the old testament God destroyed sinners without warning, and the reason God did this is because this idols worshippers are a influencing the children of isreal to worship there gods. The purpose of God creating you is to Love God or reject Him, but if you reject God ypu should no your boundary because God who promise to guide his own will never allow you to influence his children with your corrupted mind.

2peter 2:20
For if after they have escaped the
pollutions of the world through the
knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus
Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

Ecclesiastes 12:1
Remember your Creator in the days of
your youth, before the days of trouble
come and the years approach when you
will say, "I find no pleasure in them"--

Lalasticala emusmith, OAM4J

Rilwayne001:
Is that what your brain could come up with in my comment?

the op is a satanist and I understand what the brother that quote you mean, but it look like you do not agree with him.

plaetton:
2000 yrs of faith surely should have generated enough faith power to cancel the need for hospitals and clinics. Don't you think so.

and the doctors will run out of job? Not all believe in God meaning even if All believers pray for healing the devil will find loopholes in the unbelievers to carry out his evil plan.

The last time I take a medicine is around 1995 uptil today I have not visited the hospital as a patience. Glory be to God.

plaetton:
Lol.

We have seen a lot of things in our dreams. That doesn't make them real.

Since you have seen Jesus, a brief description would suffice here.

Height, build, hair color, hair style, skin color or shade, eye color?.
What was he wearing, silk or cotton, barefooted or shoes, Approximate age?
What accent did he speak to you in?

If I happen to come into contact with Jesus, these the things I would immediately notice.

Did you?

the cloud formed it self like a face, a very shining face, you cannot see it, but when I here the voice I know it him (john10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me believe me or not, I have nothing to loose.

menesheh:
Employ any strategy, the simple truth is that prayers was never and will never get any answers.

Whether you agreed or not

that how you feel when you are once in the faith, this quote is from the op;

Is it because we think that God will
not hear us? That's a possibility. I've
heard people speak about getting on
their knees to pray and having the
feeling that their prayers were
bouncing off the ceiling, going no
higher than the ceiling, that nobody
was hearing it but them. They don't
think God is actually hearing what
they are saying. And there could be
many number of reasons why
someone may feel that way.

plaetton:
Lol.

The fact that you felt the necessity to open this thread, to write this op, is all the proof that prayer is merely wishful thinking,.. aloud.

Repeating the same acts , over and over, while expecting a different outcome each time, is the clinical definition of insanity.

I know another area of life where unrelenting faith, persistence and patience also have a chance of paying off eventually.
This is the gambler's anthem.

Prayers, or should I say, the chances of you getting what you prayed for stand with the same odds as any other gambling endeavor.

And again, since we are on this prayer issue, malvisguy, kindly explain to us the difference between prayer and special prayer. Please, I beg.

you are an atheist, you cannot understand it because your canal mind would not let you, there are no special prayer, but we do need the prayer of a man who is grounded in the FAITH;

James 5:14-15, "Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing
him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the PRAYER OF THE FAITH shall save the sick,"

God says the prayer of faith shall save the sick. Whose faith? Well, certainly the one who comes to pray for you must be someone of faith.

Scholar8200:
Nice write up Op. This is very timely! These are days when some are giving up the faith because God failed to be the ATM/Vending machine they were erroneously taught He was. God is a Father Who has our best at heart and knows if what we ask will be the best in the long run. Importunity and persistence is a proof of our faith. Though the duo may not be required all the time, simple faith will prevail then.

God bless you my good friend.

EzioAuditore:
I've seen chad kroeger and johnny cash plenty of times in my dreams, heck! They not only call me by name but we actually play chess together. I guess those are visions as well? I will not waste my time talking to you about muslim visions, or dreams. You may continue lying to yourself for now, but soon you won't be able to take it anymore.

you can scoff on, no problem.to my question, where in the quran muhammed directly talk to Allah?