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EnlightenedSoul: Tbh, no. But I'm open to discussion.

The sentence "God spoke to me" tends to conjure an involuntary eye roll. It doesn't help that people who say as much tend to have the most ridiculous, self-serving messages delivered to them by the God in question.

in other word, the God that speak to abraham, isaac ,jacob and the rest prophet cannot speak to us?lady , you are wrong, God speak to us, anybody can claim God speak to them but thy Lord know those that are his own.

I know what happen to me, and I know what I experience, I am a christian, I will not lie in the name of my God.

tola9ja: why keeping shut is follow what jesus practice b4 it too late jesus practice islam

how did jesus practice islam? He was from nazzaret, a jew , well, the jesus of the bible is diff from the one in the quran, God and allah is diff.

tola9ja: I don't no the god u mean is it prophet jesus or he who sent him

Do you believe God sent jesus? I believe, now give ME verse in the quran were allah is directly speaking to muhammad and sending him.

You called muhammad a prophet who could not differentiate between the voice of God and the voice of satan? the satanic verse.

Skako: u no even know anything about ur buy bull at all see how i go disgrace what u dey brace (buy bull)
1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6
2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48
3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16
5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28
6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8
7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19
9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14
10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12
11. God is the author of evil
Lam 3:38/ Jer 18:11/ Is 45:7/ Amos 3:6/ Ezek 20:25
God is not the author of evil
1 Cor 14:33/ Deut 32:4/ James 1:13
12. God gives freely to those who ask
James 1:5/ Luke 11:10
God withholds his blessings and prevents men from receiving
them
John 12:40/ Josh 11:20/ Is 63:17
13. God is to be found by those who seek him
Matt 7:8/ Prov 8:17
God is not to be found by those who seek him
Prov 1:28
14. God is warlike
Ex 15:3/ Is 51:15
God is peaceful
Rom 15:33/ 1 Cor 14:33
15. God is cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocious
Jer 13:14/ Deut 7:16/ 1 Sam 15:2,3/ 1 Sam 6:19
God is kind, merciful, and good
James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/
1 Tim 2:4/ 1 John 4:16/ Ps 25:8
16. God's anger is fierce and endures long
Num 32:13/ Num 25:4/ Jer 17:4
God's anger is slow and endures but for a minute
Ps 103:8/ Ps 30:5
17. God commands, approves of, and delights in burnt offerings,
sacrifices ,and holy days
Ex 29:36/ Lev 23:27/ Ex 29:18/ Lev 1:9
God disapproves of and has no pleasure in burnt offerings,
sacrifices, and holy days.
Jer 7:22/ Jer 6:20/ Ps 50:13,4/ Is 1:13,11,12
18. God accepts human sacrifices
2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg 11:30-32,34,38,39
God forbids human sacrifice
Deut 12:30,31
19. God tempts men
Gen 22:1/ 2 Sam 24:1/ Jer 20:7/ Matt 6:13
God tempts no man
James 1:13
20. God cannot lie
Heb 6:18
God lies by proxy; he sends forth lying spirits t deceive
2 Thes 2:11/ 1 Kings 22:23/ Ezek 14:9
21. Because of man's wickedness God destroys him
Gen 6:5,7
Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him
Gen 8:21
22. God's attributes are revealed in his works.
Rom 1:20
God's attributes cannot be discovered
Job 11:7/ Is 40:28


pls anything to say about these?

I ask you to give me verse were God change his revelation, you go and give me the opinion of men,
This is the direct word of God ,"let us make a man, or let there be light" but the one you post is some people saying God dwell in temple God speak...etc that is there opinion .

I REPEAL GIVE ME VERSE WERE GOD CHANGE HIS REVELATION.

EnlightenedSoul: Hmm...shdemidemi beat me to it.

do you believe God can speak to us?

to live is christ, to die is gain. God bless you pastor olu.

tola9ja: Matthew 27:5 judas committed suicide by hanging act1:18 judas did not hang himself but died another way act1:9,12 christ ascended from mount olivet luke24:50,51 christ ascended from bethany. 2 sam 6:23 michal had no child 2sam21:8 michal had five children mark15:25 christ was crucified at the third hour john19:14,15 christ was not crucified until the sixth hour genesis 4:22 abraham had two sons heb 11:17 abraham had but one son genesis 25:1 keturah was abraham wife 1 chronicle1:32 keturah was abraham concubine............ To be continue there is only one way to paradise stop worshipping the creature(jesus)roman 1:21-25 they have exchange the truth about god for a lie and worship and serve the creature rather than the creator

there are 3 things you need to know about the bible.
1. The word of God.i,e let there be light.
2.the holy spirit inspire word. i,e,and the word of God came to me or thus say the lord.
3. The opinion of men, this is were you find contradiction, man is not perfect.unlike the quran which say is the word of Allah but there are Soo many verse in which all change is revelation to favour muhammad , like when he want to marry his adopted son wife, they refuse, the next day he come up with new revelation.

Give me one verse in the bible were God contradict Himself?

how is this a benefit to mankind? You mean God write this ? This is more like a magic, God work in a miraculous way.

Rilwayne001: C & P

Are you saying the KJV is not reliable

the hebrew translated it to be "Children", so what are u sayin again..?

between you never adrress the other 2 verse.

king james translated it better, some may use young men other may use children,there is no way God will kill little children, even jesus tag them as the kingdom of heaven.

Even I address the rest you will not accept.

Why can't you defend the op? You are derailing the thread.

Rilwayne001: have you ever come across the following verses of the bible.?

(2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some SMALL boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore FORTY TWO of the children to pieces.

SMH ^^...what kinda God is this

1 Samuel 18:25-27
Then Saul said, “Thus shall you say to David, ‘The king desires no bride-price except a hundred FORESKINS of the Philistines ,that he may be avenged of the king’s enemies.’” Now Saul hought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king’s son-in-law. Before the time had expired,David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their FORESKINS,which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king’s son-in-law. And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife.

Buybull god Choosen people at work.
I hope you know the meaning of FORESKIN?


Hosea, chapter 13, verse 16 (chapter 14, verse 1 in some translations):
"Samaria will be made waste, for she has gone against her God: they will be cut down by the sword, their little children will be broken on the rocks, their women who are with child will be cut open."

SMH...this is just 3 out of abt 1000+ in the inspired word of The buybull god. the problem with you guys is that you dont read your buybull thoroughly on your own. you only go to church and hold on to passages ur pastor preach about, only for you to stumble on an anti islamic website and copy there hogwash about the Quran, thereby displaying to us your dumpkopf brain. smh.

Please read the bible thoroughly before comin here to school us on the Quran.

tag: malvisguy212, Francistony.

defend the op nah, why you they make noise?

Rilwayne001: have you ever come across the following verses of the bible.?

(2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some SMALL boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore FORTY TWO of the children to pieces.

SMH ^^...what kinda God is this

1 Samuel 18:25-27
Then Saul said, “Thus shall you say to David, ‘The king desires no bride-price except a hundred FORESKINS of the Philistines ,that he may be avenged of the king’s enemies.’” Now Saul hought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king’s son-in-law. Before the time had expired,David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their FORESKINS,which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king’s son-in-law. And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife.

Buybull god Choosen people at work.
I hope you know the meaning of FORESKIN?


Hosea, chapter 13, verse 16 (chapter 14, verse 1 in some translations):
"Samaria will be made waste, for she has gone against her God: they will be cut down by the sword, their little children will be broken on the rocks, their women who are with child will be cut open."

SMH...this is just 3 out of abt 1000+ in the inspired word of The buybull god. the problem with you guys is that you dont read your buybull thoroughly on your own. you only go to church and hold on to passages ur pastor preach about, only for you to stumble on an anti islamic website and copy there hogwash about the Quran, thereby displaying to us your dumpkopf brain. smh.

Please read the bible thoroughly before comin here to school us on the Quran.

tag: malvisguy212, Francistony.

There are a few key issues we must understand in regards to this account of the youths cursing Elisha. The text reads, “From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. ‘Go on up, you baldhead!’ they said. ‘Go on up, you baldhead!’ He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.” It seems unbelievable that God would cause two bears to maul a group of children for making fun of a man for being bald. First, the King James Version has done us a disservice by translated the term as “children.” The Hebrew word can refer to children, but rather more specifically means "young men." The NIV, quoted here, uses the word “youths.” Second, the fact that the bears mauled 42 of the youths indicates that there were more than 42 youths involved. This was not a small group of children making fun of a bald man. Rather, it was a large demonstration of young men who assembled for the purpose of mocking a prophet of God. Third, the mocking of “go on up, you baldhead,” is more than making fun of baldness. The baldness of Elisha referred to here may be: 1) natural loss of hair; 2) a shaved head denoting his separation to the prophetic office; or more likely, 3) an epithet of scorn and contempt, Elisha not being literally bald. The phrase “go up” likely was a reference to Elijah, Elisha’s mentor, being taken up to Heaven earlier in 2 Kings chapter 2:11-12. These youths were sarcastically taunting and insulting the Lord’s prophet by telling him to repeat Elijah’s translation. In summary, 2 Kings 2:23-24 is not an account of God mauling young children for making fun of a bald man. Rather, it is a record of an insulting demonstration against God’s prophet by a large group of young men. Because these young people of about 20 years of age or older (the same term is used of Solomon in 1 Kings 3:7) so despised the prophet of the Lord, Elisha called upon the Lord to deal with the rebels as He saw fit. The Lord’s punishment was the mauling of 42 of them by two female bears. The penalty was clearly justified, for to ridicule Elisha was to ridicule the Lord Himself. The seriousness of the crime was indicated by the seriousness of the punishment. The appalling judgment was God’s warning to all who would scorn the prophets of the Lord.

frosbel: What you said here makes no sense, please expatiate.

man is god because genesis1:27 say, and God created man in his image and likeness,this mean man is Godly,sinless and holy, but when satan make man to sin ,man lost everytin, but when we ask for forgiveness God promise to reconcile us.how will He[God] do it? By adopting the nature of Godliness the way he created us at the beginning, the question is how can we adopt back the nature? Now, amoung all the prophet who has the nature of Godliness? It is JESUS why? Because he was born of the spirit of God all the rest prophet have the form of Godliness.

David say, if the foundation is faulty, what can the righteous do? No answer because they are still waitin for the promise God made, even doug the foundation is faulty still there are righteous people that is why david ask WHAT CAN WE DO? man cannot dwell in the foundation of adam because it faulty, we need a new foundation the new foundation will start in a Godly, sinless and holy way as it was in the beginning, THAT FOUNDATION START THE DAY YOU CONFESS JESUS INTO YOUR LIFE. Thank you.

frosbel: Jesus or Paul knew of no religion called Christianity. In fact Jesus did not come to start a new religion.

you are right, it is the people that called the apostle christian and it not wrong, it just like you, frosbel, you behave like you father, your dad name is nigeria and they nicknamed you nigerian.

Christianity is not a religion, it is God coming to meet man and give us that kingdom adam lost, jesus said THY KINGDOM COME,he give us the kingdom it only left for you to recive it.

The reason you are confused [sorry] is because many people have taken advantage of the name Christian and use it for fraud, were there is children of God, satan like to sneek around there to descive the people. BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS, CALLED YOUR SELF A CHRISTIAN OR NOT, AS LONG AS YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, YOU ARE SAVE. THANK YOU.

Weah96: Right here on NL. An atheist insults the imaginary Abrahamic God here on NL, and Christians take up arms to defend him. If I was talking to a supernatural entity with the scope of power that your imaginary God has, do you think that I would utter a word to someone who posts a disparaging comment about him? In fact, I would expect him to deal with people who insult ME. You guys act as if you've never heard the voice of God before, or seen a manifestation of his existence.

I respect you, but am very disappointed on this coment, atheist blasphemy God? Yes, but christians take arm ? To do what? How many people get injure? moreover i'v never insulted an athiest here apart from apeatheist.CHRISTIAN PREACH, WE DON'T FIGHT FOR GOD, WHOEVER FIGHT FOR IS GOD IS A CHRISTIAN BY LIPS AND NOT BY HEART. peace.

jayriginal: Why could he not be fashioned from mud the way Adam was? Why should the process of his coming into existence be half biological, half miraculous?

The same God that fashioned humanity from mud and bone forgot his old parlour tricks? I mean something smells really bad here!

God breath his spirit into adam and he became a living soul, but when satan deceive man, man lost everytin, the reason JESUS was born of the spirit of God is because man need to adopt the nature of Godliness, and all other prophet were born of a sinful nature SO WE NEED JESUS.

asodeboyede: He has lost it already!

he has not lost it, I think he just want to be careful, this is what is in his mind" what if christianity is wrong? Let me find my way to God" no other religion explain salvation the way christianity explain it, I strongly believe , when he get the right answer, his faith in christ will multiply.

nlMediator: Where's the threat? Can you point it out to me? No, I did not threaten you and have no interest in doing so. Apparently, you're afraid of your own shadow. I only pointed out the lie you're basing your position on. And mercifully, you could not defend it. Nor prove that your belief leads to any better outcome regarding human sinfulness than the one you attack.

when you tell them the truth, this is there usual reply"you are threaten me with hell or punishment"even doug they know that they are paying for the sin of adam, they just want to here this word "no punishment for sinner and there excuse to back there claim is, why will a loving God put me in everlasting fir?" my brother you spoke well. A RIGHTEOUS MAN WILL NEVER BE THREATEN BY WORD.keep on the good work Bro.

Kendzyma: why did u dodge d questions?

it a very foolish question, can you tell us were you have seen a born again christian fight for God?

Joagbaje: Ofcourse it does happen . I once did a thread on this

https://www.nairaland.com/1469553/demons-send-sms-those-experience

people will mock, but it alrite, as long as you know what you experience is true plus God is your witness, it ok.

Joagbaje: I can identify with this . I have experienced it with at least 2 cases . The individuals would not be aware a demon spirit use their phone to hurl treats to the minister . One of such case was to funny . The phone had no credit yet it was sending SMS to me. When I confronted the lady she said she didn't even have credit in her phone to start with for 2 days . I collected the phone and checked the credit . It was 0.00

I checked the SMS . There was no evidence on her phone except my responses only

I believe you cause i'v seen someone give exactly this type of complain.

nora544: that is not possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canal minded.
when jesus say, your faith can move mountain, this is what you will say, not possible? I rebuke thee.

am not a pastor am not a church goer, but when I read many coment here, I nod my head, I guess when jesus say, if you have faith, you will move this mountain, you guys will still say the same thin to jesus, bible say if you don't know me don't judge me, jesus say again, IT IS HARD FOR A CAMEL TO LOOK INTO A NIDDLE. I dont have much to say , I just wish jesus should come.

nora544: he is not a real man of god only a businessman who haws his church he is into churchbusiness not more and to tell a fake story of an other fake pastors is very dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!
And nobody should play with ebola!!!!!!!!!!!!

am not a pastor am not a church goer, but when I read many coment here, I nod my head, I guess when jesus say, if you have faith, you will move this mountain, you guys will still say the same thin to jesus, bible say if you don't know me don't judge me, jesus say again, IT IS HARD FOR A CAMEL TO LOOK INTO A NIDDLE. I dont have much to say , I just wish jesus should come. I'v read most of your post, according to you, all pastor are fake, bible say don't judge that you will be judge, the mite you use against me will be use against you also. If you don't his heart don't judge him.

am not a pastor am not a church goer, but when I read many coment here, I nod my head, I guess when jesus say, if you have faith, you will move this mountain, you guys will still say the same thin to jesus, bible say if you don't know me don't judge me, jesus say again, IT IS HARD FOR A CAMEL TO LOOK INTO A NIDDLE. I dont have much to say , I just wish jesus should come.

careema: No some christians, everyone thinks he is fake. God works miraculously, we all know that. So you are telling me all those dead victims of ebola, none of them had a good relationship with God. Its publicity, pure and simple. Faith puts you in a state of mind to be healed, it doesn't heal, it makes you believe in succeeding against all odds. so he boasting of having a cure no be am at all. At all.

God promise to protect his children, now if anyone die premature death, dos that mean God fail to protect him? if you die in the hand of your enemy, what dos it mean? God fail? Godforbid, it is because you do not have relationship with God, we are god genesis 1:27. god don't die, but when satan deceive man, he lost everytin, so my sister I REFUSE TO DIE IN THIS VIRUS IN THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF JESUS. THANK YOU

Rilwayne001: Full vessel **mu

Dont worry, the analysis continue later 2day

alright mr reporter, bring it on, one down 100 to go.

you have not address the issue about all muslims is in hell.abi make I resurrect the thread?

Rilwayne001: mtsheew

empty vessel.

Rilwayne001: i dont have your time mister...you are just too d***

you don't have anytin to say, all muslim are in hell.

Check how satan disguise himself as Allah deceive you guys.
It is stated in the Quran, That they said (in their boast), "We killed the Messiah Isa (Jesus) son of Maryam (Mary), The Messenger of Allah"- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety They killed him not-Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise- Q 4:157-158.

NOW LET ANALYSE THIS VERSE: Most Muslims believe this to mean that
Jesus Christ never died but Allah made it
appear to the people that he had been
died. Most Muslims believe he was raised
to Heaven without being put on the cross
and God transformed another person to appear exactly like Jesus who was
crucified instead of Jesus. This causes
some serious problems that need to be
addressed. If Allah tricked people into
believing Jesus was died then this
means that Allah started Christianity by his own deception, and He allowed
Christians to be deceived. The whole
foundation of the Christian faith is rested
on death of Jesus. The historical reality
of Jesus death is an essential of the
Christian faith. Without Jesus death his resurrection becomes irrelevant, and
without the resurrection Christianity
itself is rendered meaningless, i.e. 1 Corinthians 15:14 "and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain." According to history hundreds of thousands of
Christians--men, women, and children--
were tortured and killed for their faith in
Christianity. This means that Allah
started Christianity and allowed
thousands of people to give their life for something that was all a deception. From what I've studied, the Qur’an
states that a prophet cannot lie (deceive
another by implication). So, here's
something that I have yet to hear
apologetics on. Allah is proclaimed to be
truthful in all things. Yet, many Muslims believe that Allah saved Jesus from the
death of the cross and will confirm that
Allah only made it look as if Jesus died. Now, if I led a person to believe one
thing, then did something else, it would
be counted as deception on my part. I
would have deceived a person, which
causes them to believe a lie and creates
a stumbling block. If we (humans) are held to present the
truth at all times, then why would Allah
be permitted to deceive mankind
through the faked death of Jesus on the
cross? I just find this to create an
inconsistency in the character represented of Allah.

Rilwayne001: Why u come dey shake now?

actually, i'm not done with the analysis, this is just a tip of an iceberg.




Trashed..

shake? For waiting nah? This topic as been clear but you will never agree.


You called that verse from the quran trash? So Allah reveal trash, thank you for calling it trash.
You need more?

After the death and resurrection of jesus christ, Allah waited for 600yrs to say to an arabian man that jesus did not die,THE DEVIL IS A LIAR.

you never do masterpiece analysis on the decree, all muslim will go to hell fire, na crucifix they worried you.


Surah 19:71: "It is the inevitable decree of your Lord that every one of you will be taken to hell."(Sarwar).

DoctorAshley: those who lack faith will neva understand

to see the foolishness of muslims, the believe God waited for 600yrs before he send muhammad to tell us some one made to look like jesus? YOU NEED JESUS.

Rilwayne001: NOTE: Dont Just Scan Through, Read Thoroughly. This thread is not created to bash anybody but to enlighten the reader.

DEDICATED TO: True2god, Truthman2012, malvisguy212, francistony, macelliot and all other NL members.

INTRODUCTION
It is not the peripatetic "ministry" of Jesus, with all its healings, wise teachings and astounding miracles, that is the bedrock of the Christian religion. Rather, it is the extraordinary melodrama of his death and resurrection, sometimes expressed as the "promise of the cross" or in the pithy aphorism, "No Resurrection, No Christianity."

It is therefore, perhaps, quite shocking that the biblical statements that purport to support the reversal of the most certain of laws – that the dead stay dead – amounts, in toto, to less than 600 words. The "conquest of death", it would seem, rests upon the evidence of rather fewer words than the text of a McDonald's Happy Meal menu!

Sad to relate, but there are NO independent, corroborated, disinterested or contemporary accounts of the "resurrection" of Jesus Christ, although that claim is often made. The truth is that ALL that passes for testimony for the Risen Lord comes from the same storybook and a handful of unsubstantiated characters. Whilst it is almost certainly the case that in their original format the gospels circulated as distinct writings, they are in no sense independent testimonies. This is particularly the case with the passion and resurrection narratives, a motley collection of terse, hearsay reports derived from a common source and built into a common, confused and confusing, tradition.

The rational mind is aghast at the limitations, flaws and contradictions of the biblical sound-bites. Yet this is the bedrock of the Christian faith. For all the deficiency of the incredulous claims, those who want to believe will believe. It's called "faith."

MAIN TOPIC

Mark – a star witness?

"Faith rests on the historical testimony of those who saw and gave witness."

The post-mortem appearances to be found in Matthew, Luke and John, though each adding flourishes of their own, are all built on a core story accredited to a shadowy figure called "Mark".

Whoever "Mark " was, he was certainly no eye-witness to either the life or death of Jesus. Church tradition maintains that "Mark" – said to have been the erstwhile travelling companion of Paul – went to Rome and wrote down the testimony of Peter. But, on Mark's own evidence, Peter himself was NOT a witness to many of the events described in his own gospel, including the baptism of Jesus, the temptation of Jesus, the healing of the Phoenician woman's daughter, Jesus Christ's prayers in the garden of Gethsemane ( all possible witnesses were asleep!) and even the crucifixion itself:

" They all forsook him and fled. " – Mark 14:50.

Even supposing Peter was hanging around Golgotha, how could Peter know, for example, what the centurion said at the cross or Pilate's reaction to Joseph of Arimathea? We have to create multiple, unknown testimonies to keep Peter informed. As for the resurrection appearances, Peter could only rely on information from Mary Magdalen, or perhaps the other Mary or Salome. And yet the women themselves relied on the testimony of an angel – and said nothing!

Matthew, Luke and John copied from Mark, who heard from Peter, who heard from Mary , who heard from an angel .

How's THAT for "eye-witness" testimony?!

"Look – an empty tomb!"

"Every known Gospel of early times, alike in the great Church and in heretical circles, used St Mark as the leading authority for the history of the life of Jesus." – C. Turner, "The Gospel of Mark", A New Commentary on Holy Scripture, III. p46.

Mark's resurrection story begins with a rolled stone and an empty tomb (but even that idea wasn't original*). Early Christians were unhappy with the abrupt and enigmatic ending of Mark and set to work on improving the text.

" At least nine versions of the ending of Mark can be found among the 1,700 surviving ancient Greek manuscripts and early translations of the gospel." – Michael W. Holmes, Easter: Exploring the Resurrection of Jesus , (BAR, 2010)


WHY MOVE THE STONE AT ALL?
The "Rolled Stone" – a theatrical flourish

"On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being locked where the disciples were for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them [/b]and said to them, "Peace be with you." – John 20.19.

Although the gospels tell us that the resurrected Jesus appeared and disappeared at will, popping up and vanishing " in the midst of them ", it was still necessary to "b[b] move the stone " for him to exit the tomb.

But why?

Why didn't Jesus Christ teleport out of the tomb leaving the stone in place? Now that would have been even more impressive!

The anomaly betrays the fabricated nature of the post- mortem appearances of the Christian godman. A god would not have needed to move the stone but the storyteller did! With the stone still in place who would have known something miraculous had happened?

A god that materializes in a closed room in Jerusalem, on the shore of Lake Tiberias, or on a mountain in Galilee, most certainly needed no stone moved to allow him to leave a tomb. But the narrator of a sacred play needed the "moved stone" as a theatrical flourish, in order that female visitors to the tomb (and the audience) could see "the body ... gone!"
We are talking theatre, not history.

Well, let us read what the Quran says
about the cross of Jesus Christ. This is in
surat (Al Nissa), the first surat in the
Quran. In verse 157, "And because of
them saying we killed Messiah, Jesus, son
of Mary, the messenger of Allah. But they killed him not, nor crucified him. But the
resemblance of Jesus was put over
another man. And they killed that man
(the man who was changed to resemble
Jesus Christ, acc ording to the Quran). And
those who differ there, are full of doubts. They have no certain knowledge. They
follow nothing but conjuncture for surely
they killed him not, Jesus, son of Mary."
Well, reading these verses in the Quran,
we will come to this conclusion. Was
there a crucifixion? Positively, absolutely. The verse says that there was a
crucifixion, but the man who was
crucified was not Jesus Christ, but
someone else whom God changed his
face to the face of Jesus, his voice to the
voice of Jesus, and he was crucified in the place of Jesus Christ. Then crucifixion
was reality. But who was crucified? This
is what the Quranic verse is now
discussing. Now, if we believe that Allah changed
the face of that man, whoever he is,
some people say it is Judah the Iscariot,
and God changed his face to be like Christ.
If we believe that, then God is a great
deceiver because he deceived generations of men believing that the
one who was crucified on the cross of
Calvary was Christ, while he was not.
And after 600 years he sent Mohammed
to say, "They crucified him not." Well,
what is the whole story? The whole story is the misunderstanding of the Muslims of
the holiness of God, and of the corruption
of men. These two issues are the central
issues why the cross, the holiness of God,
the corruption of men. Well, we have to realize something of
great interest. The plan of salvation did
not take place when Christ came and was
born of a virgin. No. The plan of salvation
was made in eternity, before the
foundation of the Earth, before the creation of man. Because God was not
taken by surprise when Adam failed into
sin. You cannot surprise God. He knew
that Adam will fall into sin. Before he
created Adam, he made the plan of his
salvation. Let me read for you a verse in 1 Peter 1:18-20: "Knowing that you were not redeemed
with corruptible things like silver or gold,
from your endless conduct received by
tradition from your fathers;" "But, with the precious blood of Christ, as
of a lamb without blemish and without
spot;" "For He indeed was foreordained before
the foundation of the world, but was
manifest in these last times for you." So this plan of salvation was
foreordained when? When Adam fell into
sin? No, before the foundation of the
world. Why did we have the plan of
salvation that way? Because God wanted
to demonstrate His holiness; He wanted to demonstrate His love; and He wanted
us to see that He is the only one who can
save us. Now man is corrupted by nature, and to
tell me that we are born with good
nature, obviously not. Crime is
everywhere, in all the world. In Australia
there are crimes, in Europe crimes,
England crimes, US crimes, Africa crimes. Why? Because man is bad. Man is created,
is born bad. He was born with falling
nature. He took the falling nature from
Adam, and that falling nature incline to
do wrong, to sin. So because of that we
cannot save ourselves. That's number one. Now, could we save ourselves with
works? Well, the Bible was very clear, the
wage of sin is death. The Bible didn't say
that the wage of sin is to fast; the wage
of sin is to good to a pilgrimage to Mecca
or Jerusalem; the wage of sin is to pay some money to the poor, to built a
hospital, a mosque, or a church. No! The
wage of sin is DEATH . I have to die, or
some other person to die. Well now,
what was the plan? The plan was the
Creator himself decided to come in the person of Jesus Christ and to die on the
cross.

THE ONLY WAY SATAN CAN STOP THE PLAN OF GOD IS THE QURAN.THANK BE TO JESUS WE DEFECT THE DEVIL.

Tgirl4real: If you are a Christian, all your experiences should subject to God's word.

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Let me ask you, how is christ in your life? Have you ever had an encounter with God? Or you fill, God is directing you? Thank you