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Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by malvisguy212: 9:32am On Aug 06, 2014
EnlightenedSoul: Earth less than 7,000 years old? undecided Please, there's no excuse for that type of ignorance.

Be reasonable. Take care.
from adam to jesus is 4,000 years, form jesus to the apostle churches is 2,000,/3,000years.
Islam › Re: Shocking Reason Why Muslims Don't Condemn Terrorism by malvisguy212: 7:35am On Aug 06, 2014
Empiree: Chai, fellas came to see the thread but disappointed upon arrival.
actually, I came to see, if he is honest and suggest his own solution, but no.
Islam › Re: Shocking Reason Why Muslims Don't Condemn Terrorism by malvisguy212: 7:31am On Aug 06, 2014
amiskurie: Op,u see another ignorant I quoted here?




Why would they keep on condemning it when their controlled media don't tell their sheeps.
I live in kaduna, the day obama bin laden was killed and the day saddam hussein was capture, many muslims in kaduna was very sad, they threaten to fight religious war.terrorist , why only muslims? What about others religion ? Hindu,judaism , jew,and many more, IF THE FOUNDATION IS FAULTY , THERE IS NOTHIN YOU CAN DO.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are we really in the end time? by malvisguy212: 12:10am On Aug 06, 2014
samflexxy: We have had so much about the end time,with so many bad and unspeakable things happening in this world I now think the end time is near!
I have a strong reason we ar living in the
last days,God created this world in six days and rest on the seventh day, the
question is WHY WILL IT TAKE GOD SIX
DAYS TO CREATED THIS WORLD WHEN HE
COULD'AV CREATED IT WITHIN A MINUTE?
Now, if you calculate from adam to jesus
it is 4,000yrs from jesus till today it is 2,000yrs all together is 7000yrs, now
7thousand years is equivalent to 7days
because in the book of 2peter3:8 say, a
thousand years is a day to God,it took God
six days to create this world and rest on
the seventh day, what dos this mean? six days or let say 6thousand years have
pass , God rest on the seventh day which
is seven thousand years, dos this mean
we are in the last days? Yes, because God
plan all this, the day he create this world
he knows the day it will end, isaiah46:10 read. from the beginning I predicted the
out come;long ago I foretold what will
happen ,i said that's my plan would never
fail, that I will do what ever I intended to
do. Similar verse was in isaiah48:3. So my
sister we are in the last days, God told noah to build the ark because there are
Soo much wickedness and surprisly
nowadays wickedness is just like the days
of noah, God destroy soddom and
gommorah because of homosexual and
surprisly homosexual is to much nowadays, God promise to gather israel
before the second coming of christ, and
now israel became nation around 1940
somtin IS THIS A COINCIDENCE ? Believe
me, christ is comin, we are living at the
last days, this is just a detail of my observation, there is more. thank you.
Islam › Re: Beautiful Islaam Message by malvisguy212: 11:36pm On Aug 05, 2014
Fantasywrita: They want to extinguish the light of Allah
with their mouths, but Allah will perfect
His light, although the disbelievers dislike
it. Quran 61: 8
allah will perfect is light? Can't you see weakness in this statement? How can allah perfect is light? Is the light not already perfect? What is there to perfect? You will be surprise that God will not recognise any religion.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ebola A Warning Or Sign Of The End? by malvisguy212: 10:46pm On Aug 05, 2014
whirlwind7: Keep smoking that sh#t. Perhaps you will make sense one day.

@ Poster: This isn't the first ebola outbreak, though it is the worst yet. When it first struck in the 70s, some folks may have asked same question as you just did. It wasn't the end then, and it couldn't be the end now.

Several epidemics had threatened mankind in the past. Humanity bounced back (as it always does)

And what exactly do you mean by your last statement? Ebola being a threat to christianity? Has it been selecting only christians as it's victims, or what?
the end time start long time ago, God is removing the weed from the crop.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by malvisguy212: 10:36pm On Aug 05, 2014
tgirl4real and enlightenedsoul. I observe you girls are avoiding my question, well it Ok, this will be my last post,permit me to derail, thank you.


I have a strong reason we ar living in the last days,God created this world in six days and rest on the seventh day, the question is WHY WILL IT TAKE GOD SIX DAYS TO CREATED THIS WORLD WHEN HE COULD'AV CREATED IT WITHIN A MINUTE? Now, if you calculate from adam to jesus it is 4,000yrs from jesus till today it is 2,000yrs all together is 7000yrs, now 7thousand years is equivalent to 7days because in the book of 2peter3:8 say, a thousand years is a day to God,it took God six days to create this world and rest on the seventh day, what dos this mean? six days or let say 6thousand years have pass , God rest on the seventh day which is seven thousand years, dos this mean we are in the last days? Yes, because God plan all this, the day he create this world he knows the day it will end, isaiah46:10 read. from the beginning I predicted the out come;long ago I foretold what will happen ,i said that's my plan would never fail, that I will do what ever I intended to do. Similar verse was in isaiah48:3. So my sister we are in the last days, God told noah to build the ark because there are Soo much wickedness and surprisly nowadays wickedness is just like the days of noah, God destroy soddom and gommorah because of homosexual and surprisly homosexual is to much nowadays, God promise to gather israel before the second coming of christ, and now israel became nation around 1940 somtin IS THIS A COINCIDENCE ? Believe me, christ is comin, we are living at the last days, this is just a detail of my observation, there is more. thank you.
Islam › Re: Christianity To Islam by malvisguy212: 7:32pm On Aug 05, 2014
babylolaroy: you see, having religious arguments get so old nd boring cos in the end and mostly, nothing changes
I don't ague, I preach, nonetheless I understand your point. Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Good Thing Jesus Did? by malvisguy212: 5:07pm On Aug 05, 2014
Apatheist: huh
Ban damu game da Yesu ko da Adamu.


Ka Hausa?
wa ke koya ma hausa? Ku dan athiesawa, baku damu dey allhari yesu.

Anyway, thank you for your time.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Good Thing Jesus Did? by malvisguy212: 12:26pm On Aug 05, 2014
Apatheist: I ain't gay, woman! angry
allhari ubangiji na , abu mamaki ne, yesu ya bada jini sa, ma dam A'adam.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can The Word Of God Contain Contradiction (let The Bible Speak) by malvisguy212: 9:50am On Aug 05, 2014
tola9ja: “And We have sent you
(O Muhammad ) not but as a mercy for the Alameen
(mankind, jinns and all that exists)” [al-Anbiya’ 21:107]
what's this verse suppose to mean? Why not qoute the verse in full?

Mohammed was not a true
prophet. And I say that because, you see,
the true prophet must receive a direct call
from God, especially if he will be the
founder of a religion. Mohammed is the
founder of Islam. Moses received a direct call from God. Mohammed didn't receive a
direct call from God. The story is very
interesting. He was in the cave of Hira,
outside of Mecca, and there, a spirit
appeared to Mohammed. And then, the
spirit squeezed Mohammed very tightly, that he thought that he was going to die.
And the spirit said to Mohammed, "Read."
Mohammed was illiterate, he could not
read. And he said, "I cannot read." Then
the spirit squeezed him more tightly that
he thought he was going to die. And the spirit said to him, "Read!" "I cannot read,"
Mohammed answered. Then the spirit
squeezed him more tightly. He was
afraid that he was going to die. And he
said, "Read!" He said, "What shall I read?"
The words should be recited because he could not read. How could you command
someone who doesn't know how to read,
read? You say to him, "Recite!" And then
he said, "What shall I read?" And he said,
"Read, in the name of thy Lord, who
created man from the clot," etc, etc. So the Quran is not the invention of
Mohammed. The Quran was given to him
by that spirit who appeared to him at the
cave of Hira. The Muslims say, that the
spirit was Gabriel the angel. They say the
angel Gabriel is the spirit who appeared to Mohammed at the cave of Hira , and he
squeezed him tightly. But listen, when you go the Bible, Gabriel
appeared to many people. Gabriel
appeared to Daniel, and Daniel was
scared. And he said, "Do not be afraid,
Daniel." Then he appeared Zecharia, the
father of John the Baptist. And he was afraid, and Gabriel said, "Do not be afraid,
do not be afraid." Then he appeared to
Mary. And Mary was troubled, and Gabriel
said, "Do not be afraid." But that spirit
who met Mohammed and squeezed him,
left him very troubled. He was scared to death. And when he went back to his
wife Khadigah, he said, "I am scared, I
am scared! I am trembling?" She said,
"What?" He said, "I don't know, I don't
know. I am afraid that I am possessed."
Then she took him to a bishop in Mecca, by the name of Waraka Bin Nawfal, who
was her cousin, and she told him about
what happened. And this Waraka, the
bishop of the Amunit cult in Mecca said to
her, "Oh, be quiet. Be quiet. Mohammed
will be the prophet of the Arabs." So the one who declared Mohammed a
prophet was the bishop of Mecca. And
that is the historical fact. So the Quran is
not the invention of Mohammed. It was
dictated to him by that spirit. And I want
to tell you something, it's not a miracle, because any book would not be a
miracle. Any book, you know, Homer
wrote the Iliad, and Odyssey, it's not a
miracle. Shakespeare wrote many books,
it's not a miracle. Plato wrote many
books, not a miracle. The books cannot be a miracle because if I cannot understand
the language, I cannot confirm if it's a
miracle or not. The miracle is to raise
somebody, to heal somebody, to give the
sight to somebody, these are miracles!
But to tell me that a book is a miracle, I don't buy that!
Christianity Etc › Re: One Good Thing Jesus Did? by malvisguy212: 9:28am On Aug 05, 2014
babseg: She's following the op
no, I don't think so, she is a christian and I trust her faith in christ, she was just laughing at the op, she can't imergin someone thanking the devil, it a surprise to her, even me.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by malvisguy212: 9:24am On Aug 05, 2014
torchwave: Malvisguy212, please stop bothering yourself with this senseless argument. If they refuse to believe there is nothing you can do about it. It is written through the Scriptures that God desires to speak with us. It is not like they don't have the Bible.

ARGUMENT ACCOMPLISHES NOTHING. Let people believe what they want.
you are right, the reason I reply this thread, is for the sake of other. Thank you
Christianity Etc › Re: One Good Thing Jesus Did? by malvisguy212: 7:18am On Aug 05, 2014
texanomaly: Never a dull moment with you Alfa.
are you excited?
Christianity Etc › Re: One Good Thing Jesus Did? by malvisguy212: 7:16am On Aug 05, 2014
AlfaSeltzer: For his entire miserable 33 years spent in middle eastern desert, this jesus that xtians are hurting theirselves about did nothing good. Not one thing.
So I dare you reading this to tell me just one thing this wifeless man did that was good.
HE DEFECTED YOUR MASTER THE DEVIL AND HE PRONOUNCE JUDGMENT ON HIM[SATAN].
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by malvisguy212: 7:02am On Aug 05, 2014
tgirl4real and enlightensoul. I want to ask you ladies a question. DO SATAN COMMUNICATE WITH HUMAN? Pleas answer, it will clear our doubt.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by malvisguy212: 6:54am On Aug 05, 2014
Tgirl4real: I left this part out. If you pray in the Spirit (according to scriptures), worship in the Spirit (according to Scriptures), walk in the Spirit (walking in love), living in the Spirit ( living by faith), then you will have know problem knowing what to say when you ought.

"The gifts of the Spirit are as the Spirit wills and are given for the common good" and not for individual edification. Any gift that is for personal edification is selfish and does not profit anyone.
what do you understand by gift? You do know that gift and blessing are diff,
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by malvisguy212: 6:50am On Aug 05, 2014
Tgirl4real: My own point is that of what relevance is the audible voice to you?

1. You are not an Apostle

2. You are not a prophet

3. We have received the promise

4. The scriptures is complete

Of what relevance is that your experience to the Church of Christ?
am not a prophet or a disciple nither am I an apostle. God has reveal everything to us thro the bible , everytin is complete, so now, you mean God should rest or relax and allow us to believe without an encounter with us?scripture do say, our God is a God of today , yesterday and FOREVERMORE. He say if whatever we ask he will give us, this include an encounter with him.

It is this type of thread that make the new ones in christ confused, see let me tell you somtin, God is communicating to us, and the devil know it, that why he raise many false prophet to cast doubt in the heart of men to confused us that God dos not communicating with us.
Christianity Etc › Re: Africans Will Make Heaven More Than The Whiltes. by malvisguy212: 9:00pm On Aug 04, 2014
Joshthefirst: sorry. Hell is for sinners. Religious/irreligious alike. So you're going to hell. Unless you embrace the solution to sin: Jesus Christ.

Until then, you're hell bound. Evil must be punished. The wages of sin is death.

I'm not trying to scare you. I'm only trying to educate you and give you the real picture of the situation you are in. For you are blind. smiley
God bless you bro.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Bible Really The Word Of God? by malvisguy212: 11:59am On Aug 03, 2014
tola9ja: if it really the word of god it suppose to be free from error
I copy this from a thread in the islamic section created by ayomicvi. Uptill today non of your brothers have answer the op.

Who say Quran is God's words ?I believe
Quran is not God's words but the words of
Muhammad. What make me say this?
Iam a Christian that believed in searching
for the truth as a way of salvation.
Actually, i believed in Bible but i still want to learn about Islam. In quest for
this, i read the English Quran to see if its
a true book of God. On 24 of July 2014 i
finished the reading of Quran without
Saadah and these were what i discoverd
that made me says Quran is not the words of God but the worlds of
Muhammad.
1.If you have read the Bible before and
you really understood what you read you
would agree with me that Quran isn't
God's words because it is not sound like words of God. The Quran used the
pronoun such as our, we, he when refers
to Allah.To me,Quran sound like words of
advice or explanatory words rather than
the report speech that it should be.Look
at this statement from Quran and tell if it sound like Allah's words or report speech
" This Quran is not such as can be
produced by other than Allah, on the
contrary it is a comfirmation of
(revelation) that went before it and a
fuller explanation of the book where in there is no doubt it from the lord of the
world " (Yunus 4:37)
whose statement is the above
statement?
Even, if it is God's words, why would God
commends Quran to the extence of saying " there is no doubt its from the lord of
world" who is doubting? Who is
speaking ?Who is the lord of the world?
Also look at this
Or do they say " he forged it" say bring
then a surah like unto it and call ( to your aid) any one you can beside Allah if it be
ye speak the truth" (Yunus 4:38)
was/is Allah in arguement with the
people he created?
Another
Has the story of Moses reached thee? (Those who pull out 2:15)
was Allah questioned Muhammad or
Muhammad questioned people?
2 the Muslims claimed that Muhammad
was not a learner and that Angel Gabriel
appeard to him and asked him to read. That is the only time Muhammad claimed
he saw an Angel. Muhammad claimed
that, he was not a learner and that
people said "he forged Quran and the
people they are pointing to that he
teaches him (Muhammed) was christian but he does not understand arab"
In another verse of Quran he says, the
christians had testified to Quran that it is
like the other books that Allah sent and if
people doubted it they should ask them
(christians) Muhammed heard the Christians when
they said Quran is like other books
revealed by Allah, but Quran does not say
the language in which they
communicated to Muhammad. These
shows that Muhammad had Christians around him when he was alive and they
can communicate with him.
Muhammed claimed he received
messages through inspiration
" say iam man like you it reveal to me
through inspiration that your God is one God" (Ha Him 1:6)
" Allah sent his Spirit of inspiration to all
his servant" (The believer 2:15)
the definition of inspire is to fill with the
urge to do something or to creat a filling
in a person according to dictionary meaning
i believed many things we human being
are doing in life are by inspiration. The
authors can not write a book if not by
inspiration, the musicians cannot write
music without been inspired, when you are inspired by the beauty of woman you
can write poem . The woman who said
she was God, what inspired her?
Inspiraton required deep thought.
Muhammed source of inspiration cannot
be verified or confirmed. When God speaks to Moses Moses heard his voice,
the Isaelite during the Moses time heard
the voice of God, Samuel heard his
voice ,God speaks to some prophets in
their dreams, some of the prophets heard
the words of God and they were inspired by Holy Spirit to say what they heard.
The apostles were inspired by Holy Spirit.
How dn we know they were Inspired by
Holy Spirit? We know because they
revealed the hidden truths in the
scripture. The Bible told us of sarmaritan Queen who was reading Scripture from
the book of Isaiah but did not understand
what she was reading but Philip with the
help of Holy Spirit was able to explain it
to her and his explanation match with
what was happened .Paul with the help of holy Spirit was able to explain how
Jesus died for our sins in accordance with
the scripture but Muhammed's inspiration
denied others prophets writtings.
Muslims should tell us why they believed
in Muhammed's source of inspiration? 3 Muhammed desires and intetions were
what Muhammed made to be the words
of Allah - Muslims said Muhammed was
not speak of his own desire but what
Allah revealed to him but the Quran and
Hadith proved this wrong. Because Muhammed speaks of his own desires,
that is what make Quran useless without
Hadith. Its the hadith that explained
Quran. is it surpose to be like that? Hadith
that is words of men explained Quran
that is the words of God. and the Quran is said to be the book that Allah sent down.
That is funny. Look at this verse of Quran.
" O ye who believe! Enter not the prophet
house until leave (permission) is given
you. For a meal (and then) not (so early
as) to wait for it preparation but when you are invited, enter: and when you
have taken your meal, disperse, without
seeking familiar talk such (behavious)
annoyed the prophet: he is shy to dismiss
you but Allah is not shy (to tell you) the
truth.And when you ask (his ladies for anything ye want ask them from before
a screen that make for a greater purity
for your hearts and for their. Non is it
right for you that ye should annoy Allah
messenger, or you should married is
widows after him at a time. Truely such a thing is in Allah sight an enormity " ( the
Allies 6:53
i think the above issue should be the
decission of Muhammed alone .why did
Muhammed have to involve Allah. To me
Muhammed lied against Allah.He was shy to tell them that he does not like their
behavious and he knows that if he
speaks in Allah's name to them, they
would fear and not see him as a man
with bad temper.
Humm! He married so many widows in the name of been nice to them but, he
does not want any man to share of his
wife even when they become widows.
Hadith gave many accounts of
Muhammed using his intentions and
desires to be the words of Allah. The verse on his adopted child (Saheed) was
his desire, verse on woman Muhammed
could married (Zainab) was his
desire ,the facing of mecca(kaaba) when
praying was his desire, the Satanic
verses (to unite his tribe) was his desire and many more.
Allah in Quran always sent verses of
Quran in favour of Muhammed. what a
lie !
4. No Hadith no Islam - Quran is not in
detail ,it will leave us with qestions when reading it without knowlege of
Hadith. many of the doctrines of Islam
are based on Hadith, what would Muslims
use to preach without Hadith? which
prayer do Muslims have to use without
hadith?Let take this for example. There is no where in Quran that mention
or list 99 names of Allah. What Quran
says in similar to that is that, we should
call Allah all the beautiful names we
know. If this should be the case, then, the
names of Allah can be more than 99. Hadiths are useful in Islam , also they
exposed the lies of Muhammed. That is
why Muslims called some hadiths
fabricated Hadith and Some Authentic
Hadiths. Many of the writters of
Authentic Hadith were also the Writers of Fabricated Hadiths even Aisa one of the
prophet wives fabricates words. Who do
we have to trust?
5 Repetitions in Quran- if repetitions are
to be removed from Quran, i think the
suras would remain in Quran should not be more than five suras. Why would God
continued to repeat thesame words in so
many times? If Muhammed was not have
intention to make Quran look like Bible
why repetitions of words? What was the
idea behind the title of each Suras if Muhammed was not jealous of Jew and
envey of Bible? If Quran is really God's
words,i think the title of Quran suras
should be Muhammad like
Isaiah,Jerimaiah in Bible.Did God/ Allah
tells Muhammed to use those titles for Quran's Suras?
Take notice of repetitions in Quran when
next you are reading it,you we
understand what i mean.
We are still on repetition in Quran. I
found something funny in Quran and i want the Muslims on this thread to tell
me if it was person that transliterated
the Quran i read that made the Mistake or
not.What i found was that,The sura
Sandhills and Sura Muhammed has
thesame content also Sura The Banishment and Sura The Examine One
was thesame in content.
If it was not mistaken,should what God
sent down be like that?Who made that
mistakes God or Muhammed or those that
compiled it? 6.Sura the Cave -Muhammed was not
certain of the numbers of the Youth in
the story of the cave.He said
"... some say they were three the dog be
the fourth among them, other say they
were five, the dog being the six doubtfully quessing at unknown (yet
others) say they were seven the dog
being the eight.Say then my lord
knoweth best their number.It is but few
that knows there (real case) Enter not
into controversies concerning them ,except on matter that is clear,nor
consult any of them about (the affair of)
the sleepers. The Cave 3: 22
what does Muhammed mean by"some" is
it not Allah that revealed the story to
him? Why not knowing the numbers of the youth in the cave?"my lord knoweth
best their numbers" those words shows
that it was'nt God that revealed the story
to Muhammed. I trust my God, God of
Abraham, God that reavealed the dream
of Pharao to Joseph wthout go and come, he revealed the dream of
Nheibuckadinazary to Daniel
I heard that the story was asked to test
the prophethood of Muhammed and it
took Muhammed fifteen (15) good days
to answer and when he answerd see what he was saying. Why can't
Muhammed be sured of their numbers?
7. 'They ask you about this , Say..... ' - I
hate that statement in Quran. Is Allah or
Muhammed teaching his followers how
to tackle Christians and Jews? This shows that Muhammed knows himself to be a
liar.
8. The Quran made mentioned of these
prophets. Adam, Noah, Abraham, Lot,
Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and his
eleven brothers(not by names) Moses, Aaron, Zakariah( John the Baptize's
father) , Elias,David Solomon, John the
Baptize, Jesus. To confirme the Scripure
that was sent before Quran but Allah /
Quran/ Muhammed did not make mention
of Many prophets such as Isaiah, Jeremaiah, Ezeikel, Nehemaiah, Malachi,
Zechariah ,Amos. Were they not Prophet
of God?
Allah /Quran/ Muhammed tells the Stories
of Adam, Abraham, Mose Aaron And
Pharao, the Thamud ,add, Sodom and Gomarah, Mary, John the
Baptize ,Jesus ,to confirm scripture before
Quran but what about the prophecies of
the above prophets that Quran did not
mention were they not from God? And if
Muslims would talk , they would say Quran is not a story book.
9. The parables in Quran- cannot be
compared with Bible's parable . How
could God almighty gives those childish
tale as parable. It proved Muhammed to
be a liar. 10. Muhamned the loveth prophet of
Allah, whose Allah has forgiven his past,
the present, and the future sins. The man
that would interceed for Muslims on the
day of judgement. The man who knows
what God would say on the day of Judgement and how God would judged
the sinner.
I just can fathom why Muhammed
deserved the merit he gave to himself
over other prophets.
In a nutshell, Muhammed was self proclaimed prophet that envey the Jews
because both arab and Jew were
decsendants of Abraham. He created his
religion to save arab of shame of not
having a single prophet.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Bible Really The Word Of God? by malvisguy212: 11:50am On Aug 03, 2014
tola9ja: Islam is the only religion in the world That pray salat and is in the bible nehemaiah 8:4-6 you can never see christian converging 2gether I.e jehovah withness worshiping wit cotholic or redeem with celestial they can't, there bible is different from one another there is no uniqueness in there religion. in islam we converge together at the central mosque all muslim of the world converge at mecca there is central mosque in all city of the world there is noting like central church muslim do holy pilgrim to mecca in christian some goto to jerusalem some to vertican city some goto rome no uniqueness anyway whoever Al mighty Allah show s is patch nobody Can miss lead him/her and whoever he miss lead nobody can lead him/her to the wright patch and there is only 1 way to paradise use ur brain judiciously don't let any pastor fool you a word is enough for the wise
you need a touch from the master to free you from this spell.
Islam › Re: ISIS Vows To Destroy Mecca’s Kaaba, “kill Those Who Worship Stones by malvisguy212: 10:00am On Aug 03, 2014
Keemie: Laila ha illa lahu Muhammad rasulullah sala lahu aleyhi wa salam which roughly means there is no other God except Allah and Muhammad is his messenger.
this creed mean muhammad is the only prophet of allah, all other prophet which came from the descendant of abraham are the ones the True God chose, they all here the voice of God.
Islam › Re: Christianity To Islam by malvisguy212: 9:49am On Aug 03, 2014
cloudstar: What you think is irrelevant - it doesn't change who Jesus is and what His message is about. The question you should ask yourself is what is historically true? This is what I suggest:

1. I suggest you research the accounts of the Bible and the Quran about Jesus. For example, do not believe what the Bible say about Jesus and do not believe that the Quran say either (even though this may be hard). Research early historical accounts about Jesus before both books were written or revealed. After that, compare your research findings with the Quranic and Biblical account and verify which is closer to your research.

Let me give you a simple example. The Bible claimed Jesus was crucified (the Bible came 600 years earlier than the Quran), the Quran states it wasn't so. In such a case, what do we believe? The answer is pretty simple - history from early sources i.e. Roman historians who were not Christians attest and confirmed that Jesus was crucified. You may ask - why should we believe these accounts - again, simple: They predate both the Biblical and Quranic accounts. So, even if you don't believe the Bible said it, you can't deny that Jesus the Christ was crucified. You may decide to ignore it and hold on to your original belief smiley

I ask that you are objective when discussing matters of faith and use history as a litmus test to validate religious accounts. This goes for both Islam and Christianity.
nice one brother.
Islam › Re: Christianity To Islam by malvisguy212: 4:03pm On Aug 01, 2014
babylolaroy: on the contrary, this is what i think. if christ is d leader, den his followers are christians...ofcourse. thats logical. that dont mean nohow that christ was a christian since he was the leader.
we shudnt say further that we muslims think he IS a muslim. yu know dah kinda thing nd we dont think him a word of God. we think we all are words of God. BE! and we were. thats it. hpw else dd we come about? only by that word which is BE! not jesus!
long tym lady, how have you been? Hope fine?

You may be right, who follow jesus may be christian but one thin I like you to know is that jesus did not start any religion, he unite us back to God, jesus said, I am the vine and you are the branch, what dos it mean by branch? It mean he link us to God , I don't ague religion, I preach the good news, for the past few days, I notice that no one will agree with your view, nobody is wrong, this will lead to unnecessary aguement which I hate,i'v even forgotten this thread when you draw my attention.

Thank you for your time, happy salah
Islam › Re: Who Say Quran Is Word Of God? by malvisguy212: 3:50pm On Aug 01, 2014
Ayomivic: Brethren, God bless you.
bless you to. Nice exposed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by malvisguy212: 8:40am On Aug 01, 2014
shdemidemi: Do you think anyone from any other religion can't have similar experience?

What you had was an experience. Experience come and they go, they are not and can't be a standard. They should remain with you as they are uniquely for you. 'God told me' isn't what we should preach as Christians, we must stick to the scriptures even over whatever supernatural experience.
I did not say other people from diff religion can't encounter God, the grace of God is for mankind,one thin I will like you to know is, God don't recognise religion.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by malvisguy212: 8:07am On Aug 01, 2014
EnlightenedSoul: Not a problem smiley
If you explain the experience, that works too.
I will just give you the detail.I don't go to church when all this happen to me, I don't even care about heaven or hell when I had this dream, the first one was in a desert, some people want to convert me to there religion when the face apper on the sky and save me.
The second happen when my friend say somtin bad about the same religion, they wanted to kill him, but when I pleaded for him, they hold me tight, sharpen there knife and wanted to kill me, all of a sudden a lamb apper from no were, enter in between my legs, carry me away. The lamb was jesus. Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Speak To You? How? by malvisguy212: 12:58am On Aug 01, 2014
EnlightenedSoul: I respect your belief, but I don't believe you. No offense.
it alright, thank you for your time.

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