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Idowuogbo: yep! any color berry i get! lets do business.

ok for the sake of privacy I will mail you within the hour

Idowuogbo: Present sir!

GooD. Are you on blackberry?

Any runs girls in the house?

igbsam: As useless as your Arsenal team abi..........wake up jare! Your bad belle no go take you anywhere.

Tell am jare

Richvkunt: Stop being silly it is only a nick name.
In fact Old Trafford is our church and Sir Alex Ferguson is our General over seer or Daddy GO.
We place our tithe at his feet through our DSTV subscription.
Now let me go and wear my red prayer clothes because match starts at 1700 hrs.

You pray when you wake up in the morning, thanking god for allowing you to wake up, you pray before you eat your meals, thanking god for providing it for you, you pray before you embark on a journey hoping for a safe journey. Then you go and offend god by worshipping his enemy?

Come on you spurs. Do the double

all you devil worshippers i need you to answer my questions here https://www.nairaland.com/1168897/red-devils#13921804

[size=24pt]come on you spurs[/size]

Today is Sunday you Christians will go to church to thank God for keeping you alive, putting food in your belly, for the miracles you've experienced, for answering your prayers etc. You muslims will thank allah for similar reasons. But then later on this afternoon some of you guys will sit in front of your TV wearing a red tee shirt with the emblem of the devil on it and begin to worship the Red Devils. My question is how can you guys call yourselves born again christians or good muslims and worship the red devils at the same time? In Mecca you muslims throw stones at the devil so why worship the devil?

Answers please.

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Rich4god: The extremist have started....

trying to islamize the UK just like Maclatunji wants to islamize the muslim section

mumumugu: Constitution says right to religön. Right to belong to any religion. Atheist have no religon ,they have no right.

Is it not also a right to make the decision to be free from religion. Isn't that also a right?

Logicboy03: Majaze, is davidylan lying or telling the truth?

Not all atheists believe in evolution logic boy. To the best of my knowledge he dose not, but he dose believe evolution to be a better explanation than the God saying let there be life fairytale.

Muskeeto ishilove Bella3 & inurmind you guys are derailing this thread.

Not a bad idea. Am interested

Deconversion From Christianity

I got it from here on Nairaland. Its the story of how a nigerian woman became an aatheist.

https://www.nairaland.com/588244/deconversion-christianity#up

Deconversion from Christianity
Submitted by Matt on 1 October, 2010 - 15:40
Nigeria IHN 2010.2 May International Humanist News

I was converted from Christianity to atheism between the ages of 16 and 18. By age 15, I was beginning to question intelligent design. As a young science student, learning the fundamentals of critical thinking, the fact that I could not intellectually defend my belief in God as the ‘unmoved mover/uncaused causer’ was beginning to bother me. I needed an answer to the question: If God created the world, who created God? I found it difficult to suppress the cognitive dissonance between my logical and reasoning mind and the leap of faith in the belief in a supreme being-God that is: Omnipotence – with the absolute power to do anything He desires; Omnipresence - present in all places at all times; Omniscience - all-knowing ability to know absolute everything. A belief in a set of propositions based solely on faith and contrary to the sum of the evidence for the belief.

Being a good Catholic girl, I reduced this dissonance by syncretising creationist and evolutionary theory to explain how the world came into existence: that God created atoms; and once created, these atoms initiated the evolutionary process! How very clever. I somehow felt that nature was too complex and variable for one person or Supreme Being to design all alone.

In my last two years in secondary school, like a good statistician that I was, I hedged my bets and practised what Richard Dawkins in The God Delusion called the Pascal Wager: ‘Better believe in God because if you are right you stand to go to heaven, and if you are wrong it won’t make any difference anyway. Whereas, if you don’t believe in God and you end up being wrong, you are condemned to eternal damnation in hell.’

During this period, I struggled with questions such as: Why do I believe that God exists? What is the nature of God? How does God interact with humans? Does he actively intervene or is he powerless to intervene? Why did an omnipotent God create an imperfect world or allow catastrophes to happen? I rationalised that God has no control over the evolutionary process he initiated, and that was why Man has free will. Significantly, though Mass attendance in school was mandatory, my religiosity during this period was moderated. I continued to find the rituals of the Catholic Mass, Stations of the Cross, and the Rosary, etc. very comforting.

In the intervening years between living in the secure doctrinaire environment of a Catholic boarding school and my Higher Secondary Certificate (HSC), my religiosity was tepid.

Over the course of my university education, I became completely faithless and unable to believe in God in the absence of verification. I became a science fiction aficionado, and an ardent follower of the television series Star Trek.

At the end of four years of studying for a science degree (Biology Major and Chemistry Minor), I was 100 percent convinced that God did not exist, and the world was not created by a single Supreme Being. Rather, I was preoccupied with questions, such as: Are we indeed alone in the universe? Are there more intelligent beings out there in the universe? What is the future of human evolution?

By the time I left university, I had become confidently and unequivocally a religious and able to rationally disentangle morality from religion. I viewed ‘God’ as a universal concept of perfection and goodness, not a spiritual being; just a concept, an ideal standard which I did not humanise and to which I did not ascribe absolute supernatural characteristics. As Emile Durkheim observed, I had concluded my personal journey of enlightenment: from faith in magical powers to explain the world to a gradual shift to the superior explanatory model of science.

By the time I was 35 years old I began to view religion as a barrier to maturity: moral immaturity that keeps you trapped in an arrested state of character development, where morality is based on the fear of God’s retribution, bereft of goodness for the sake of goodness; intellectual immaturity that halts intellectual growth as deviation from faith- based beliefs have frightening consequences; inhibited personal growth that embraces a party line of morals, beliefs, and opinions, rather than learning to think for yourself.

These days, I see religion as a crutch and a security blanket for the weak, the needy, the spiritually craven and the intellectually wanting. It is a sign of human weakness and lack of mental aptitude to manage the difficulties of life on one’s own without trust in a Supreme Power beyond man. A solace for the soul and an "opiate of the masses” that sees believers choosing to live by pre-digested philosophy, morality, and instructions for daily life, rather than think for themselves.

I have a strong aversion to fellowshipping with believers who appeal to emotion rather than critical thinking. I am unable to ignore their illogic and bewildering close-minded ignorance and circular reasoning. I refuse to derive my worldview and self-worth from a priest/pastor/spiritualist that expects me to accept without question everything it teaches, even when it contradicts science, history, logic, and even itself. My special vitriol is reserved for Pentecostals who venture to ‘save me’ (recruit me).

Sadly, I live in a country where people have outsourced responsibility to the devil and principalities and solutions to God. We want the fruits of scientific labour, but shun the mental discipline of scientific rationality. As the modern world pushes new frontiers in science and technology, my people conveniently escape into the world of magic and superstition. Though a necessary dissonance reduction mechanism for coping with powerlessness in a complex world in which we are increasingly becoming irrelevant, the wider ramification is damning and alarming. We have ceased to take responsibility for our lives and destiny, and resort to the magical powers of faith and prayer to effect change in our personal circumstances, national governance and leadership, economic development. In this 21st century, democracy in Nigeria has been redefined as: ‘Power belongs to God’ as opposed to ‘Power to the People’.

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

--Enotie Ezekiel



Mrs Enotie Ezekiel, a Nigerian Humanist, is a 54 year old businesswoman, married with four children. She lives in Lagos.

Was thinking of telling my story but there's nothing much to say & its boring

tintingz: GhostFaceKiller...dont be suprised when you get bann

I just banned him

I thought about doing something similar myself. Learn how to become a good christian apologist. Then start a thread where I would become a christian apologist for a month, challenging all you hellbound atheists to ask me any question about the bible, doing my best to come up with answers & hopefully getting some help from my heavenly theist colleges.

One reason why am thinking about it is to challenge myself to try to see things from the theist point of view. Another reason is say to them "If I can do it, why can't you do it? And challenge them to think outside their box of religion & see if they can do a similar like me by becoming an atheist for a month

You never know the whole experience could force them to come out of their comfort zone, question their religious beliefs & you never know it could lead them to becoming an atheist.

I just find it hard to believe that over 90% of the posters here believe that adeboye tales by moonlight story. So all you guys believe in vanishing manhoods or bullets not entering its victims pastors curing their members of aids etc. We still have alongway to go before our country begins to progress

Logicboy03: MMC, thanks again for moderating my thread! Cheers

No worries bro

Will reply u in the complaints section

This is old news. I heard this fairytale about Pastor driving on an empty tank many years ago.

2good: Why is the mod allowing this Cheddarking of a person to derail this thread?

Click on the Report To Moderator link and state your complaint or leave a message in the complaints section at the top of the religion homepage

The arsenal will not finish above spurs this season

Is this your own personal experience or is it just copy & paste?

Ghettoguru: Is going to church supposed to be forced on people?

No, but am not religious & my religious babe makes me go every Sunday. She dose not know thatam not religious but she suspects.

First of all Frosbel did not use the Report To Moderator link I acted on my own. Secondly your not the only one that was threatened with a ban Logic Boy was to. If its not all topics that get derailed then its well over 90% that do. Only the "Have You Praised Him Today" thread & "The Christians Chatroom" that never get derailed. Therefore you can't expect me to warn every single derailer & besides I didn't really follow this topic from the start so that just adds to the problem. Its you & Logic Boy that I decided to warn because both you stood out from the crowd. Logic Boy because he threw the first punch by calling Frosbel (who started the topic) a reetard & Enigma as well. You because of your quotes on page 3 on Jan 11th at 7:37pm. Frosbel even asked you to stop derailing for the second time further down on the same page.

You were going to far by quoting muskeeto's post as far as am concerned therefore like I said earlier you & Logic Boy stood out from the crowd. Muskeeto tried to ignore you, you insisted on derailing. Did any non believer derail the christian version of this thread the way you & other believers did to ours? Don't you think that since you believers that have morals (which came from God) should be setting a good example to us non believers who according to you believers do not have any morals by not derailing our thread? You went to far by quoting muskeeto that's the reason I warned you

Bella3 & Ishilove
Both your offtopic comments are derailing the thread & will just provoke others

musKeeto: Not nice.. Not nice at all.. But I understand the decision. Just hope it can be reversed..

Edit: thanks..

It was a mistake. My Blackberry is to touch seensitive

Logicboy03: Nope. Anony doesnt troll, he make dubious arguments.


Enigma is a confirmed reetard like his christard brother, Frosbel.


Joagbaje is more sane than both of them. Joagbaje is only a thief.

The next insult on this thread from you logic boy earns you a ban nobody forced you to post in Frosbel's thread. Image123 stop posting offtopic posts or expect aban to.