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It's nothing extraordinary.
The bird was following the man.
It stops when the man stops. Goes where he goes.
It's just an intelligent bird that wants human food

All hymns from the TABERNACLE CHOIR AT TEMPLE SQUARE. ( Mormons)
Best choir in the whole world!

-If the savior stood beside me
-Morning has broken
-Consider the lilies
-Have I done any good
-A Childs prayer
- Teach me tu walk to in the light
-Abide with me tis evening tide

If there are other sexes in other mammals or primates.
Let us know how to identify them.

knowingChrist:
This is totally false Sir.

Even though I do not think what Mr Max said is the truth, I do not also subscribe to your totally false comments here.

It's clear that you do not regard the bible so stop sticking your mouth to where they're talking about it. It's not wise to go sit in a place where your enemies are discussing and learn unless you're a mole.

I'd say Mr max is doing better at your Job of being a mole if you were actually a mole. You need to pretend as if you believe and speak things that look like truth but are actually false. That's what he's doing and he fits a better mole than yourself.

The bible is a word, they're saying the same from Genesis to revelation. It's a framework and if you take any part of it out of context, it won't make sense.

The bible is very connected. If you study it with an open mind, you'll see they're saying the same thing.

You believe a collection of books is one word. That's your faith and has nothing to do with logic.
Because a critical reading of the Bible books side by side, comparative study unmasked thousands of valid absurdities and contradictions.
Meanwhile you couldn't logically explain or isolate the old testament(Hebrew) without mentioning Greek books to explain how the snake or serpent in genesis turned out to be Satan.
The old testament does not acknowledge that and you can't deny it.
And what am saying is falsehood to u because it goes contrary to your assumptions and believes.

So how do we find out the truth without bias?

MaxInDHouse:
Whose words did Apostle John penned down here?

So down the great dragon was hurled, the ORIGINAL SERPENT, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. Revelations 12:9

The serpent that deceived Eve {Genesis 3:1-5, 13} is the "original serpent" here and Jesus is the one revealing these sacred secrets to Apostle John {Revelations 1:1} just as Jesus promised he will do! John 21:20-25

So my friend Max don't argue blindly, i have all the scriptural backings pointing to the fact that the serpent at Genesis is Satan the devil.

May you have PEACE!

Bro stop quoting revelation to defend your interpretation in genesis. You're only making yourself silly. Linking the serpent or snake in genesis remains a cooking of Christianity and you're still making it very clear.
The bible is a collection and library of books. Collected by men. Nothing was divine about the collection(study a secular history of the Bible). The Bible was created by the orthodox Church fathers after reaching a consensus as to which books should be read in church or not.
Every book of the Bible is on its own

MrPRevailer:
Did you even listen to yourself?

The point I made is that Satan possessed a talking snake just the way he entered Judas Iscariot and possessed him.

Luke 8:26-39, Jesus sent the demons away from the mad man into a swine of pigs.
The demons possessed a swine of pigs and they all ran and drowned in the river

So why did God curse the snake , didn't he know it was possessed?

Genesis 3:14, KJV: And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Dtruthspeaker:
Change of Post! You said



And now I have shown you that Revelation 12:9

And both Genesis and Revelation are part of the Bible. So you can not take one part and throw out the other parts
(As God Commanded) and neither is it right nor just for you to use only Genesis, to make a whole bewildering comment about Christianity which arose because of the wrongful categorisation called wrongly called "new testament", the very same place where Revelation speaks.

These are different books and not one book?
The bible is a collection of books. A library.
The Bible is not a book

MaxInDHouse:
Guy, the author is God Himself but used humans as His secretaries to pen down His thoughts so if you can't reason with a fellowman to agree on the practical application of what you read in that book it's OK i only came to help you go and meet your Muslim or atheist brothers who kills one another based on the opinion that your stupid God is behind the evil deeds you're doing to your fellow believers in your stupid religion!

Reason with you or accept your preferred interpretation of a very clear sentence. You can't accept that text yourself that's why it has to mean something else.
Isn't God finally what we want it to be?

MaxInDHouse:
Well it simply means servants of God shouldn't fear whatever evil enemies of pure worship can plan because all the things they want to use against God's servants are created by God.

For instance fire is a destructive agent this is the agent that destroyed Nebuchadnezzar's men whereas God controlled all the gases that made up fire and converted it to AC for Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego.

So the same God who created the destructive agent known as fire for a purpose turned it to a cooler because of His own servants.
Therefore servants of God shouldn't fear whatever evil plan enemies of God may have in mind because everything they know to perpetrate their evil deeds is under the control of the Creator who knows all the elements that makes up those things. Psalms 23:4

That's the practical application of what you're quoting not that God planned good and evil Sir!

Do I care about what you think it means? The true meaning can only come from the author of the text and not the reader. So far it's all clearly written that God is the bringer of goodness and evil. So shut up with ur apologetic defense

MaxInDHouse:
You first cited Isaiah 47:7 but as for 45:7 it doesn't mean what you're thinking rather it's deeper than that!

God is not the cause of evil deeds you need to understand what that verse is saying!

You want me to understand what you've interpreted to be what the verse is saying or what the writer of isaiah and all the writers of old testament are saying?

This one can pass

Dtruthspeaker:
See how you people are blind when you read?

What you call new testament
Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth,

What you call old testament
Genesis 3:13
..And the woman said, The serpent beguiled (deceived) me, and I did eat

What business does the book of revelation have with genesis. Both where marketing two different things almost 700 years apart.
I the op asked you to use genesis or any old testament account to prove that the serpent that was cursed in genesis after deceiving eve was not a snake.

All you did was prove the original point that Satan does not exist in the old testament.

MrPRevailer:
Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Luke 22:3 "Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve."

Satan is a spirit. It's either he was speaking physically with Eve or he entered into a snake.
Judas committed evil because he was under the influence of the Devil.

John 10:10 "The thief came not but to kill, steal and destroy"

All you did was quote a verse from luke in the new testament to explain that the snake in genesis was not a snake. Who does that? The whole of old testament never tried to change the story of talking snake, why Christianity?
If it was really Satan, the account of genesis would have been clear on that.
Mtcheew
Listen to reason my brother.

MaxInDHouse:
You said: “I will always be the Mistress, forever.” You did not take these things to heart; You did not consider how the matter would end. Isaiah 47:7

What has this got to do with God creating evil?

Isaiah 45vs7
New International Version
I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

In the old testament Hebrew God was both evil and good God. He wasn't in opposition with devil or darkness. He causes everything.

The Satan connotation or invention is absolutely strange in the old testament

MaxInDHouse:
Most creatures has the sense of sight, hearing and making a sound but the ability to speak is a gift given to humans only. So out of all the creatures on planet earth only humans specie is expected to have a form of language because we do communicate.
In the spirit realms there is all these senses as well and angels can use it all, that's why they can speak with humans too. Unlike humans who now has issues dealing with the confusion that started at Babel {Genesis 11:1-9} the angels don't have any problem because they know we're still speaking the same language globally it's a spiritual force that's blurring our senses from understanding one another regarding tongue so when they speak to anyone from any nationality you will hear them speak in your mother tongue.
Now this supernatural creatures also have the power to speak in a multitude of people and open the receptive senses of just one or a few to understand what they're saying whereas the rest will start wondering what is happening.
Well that's exactly what Satan (a fallen angel) did when he used a snake just like a puppet to speak to Eve {Genesis 3:1-5} that's why the Bible later identified the real creature behind the voice Eve heard that day as Satan! Revelations 12:7

If the snake was Satan's puppet, why did genesis god curse the snake to crawl and removes its legs?

knowingChrist:
So you automatically assume that the snake is this person called Satan right?

The verse in no way suggested it was nothing else but snake. Is your Christainity that brought the idea Satan.
Not genesis, not old Judaism and not the old testament.

knowingChrist:
With due respect sir, what you're saying is very incorrect. You said "we're sure it was a literal snake that spoke to Eve" then went on to say Adam and Eve was deceived by this talking snake and I asked you who's this "we" who are sure that it was a snake? Simply because what you say contradict what's obtainable in the scriptures.

If this we is just you and your friends or your religious group then be bold enough to say it. I for a person do not subscribe to this ideology that there was a talking snake in Garden of Eden at least not by reading the bible. Maybe you found this myth in other books or from your religion but it's certainly not from the bible. And I have taken time to write this on here and even on many platforms like Quora and Twitter.

I'll glad if you can check them out or at least take some time to study the bible so you don't generalize your assumptions on everyone. God bless you.

And the snake spoke to eve!

knowingChrist:
Who's this we who're sure that it was a literal snake that deceived Eve? Also, do you understand that the bible makes it clear that Adam was not deceived? Or what kind of bible are you reading? The bible says Adam refused to obey the authority of God (which means to disobey), so what are you talking about? Take some time to study pls

The genesis account entirely proved and made sure of it was a mere snake.
Please defend that it wasn't a snake with genesis account or the old testament (torah).
Ballam donkey talked, the pre Christian Jews believed in a many fairly tales where animals talked and a talking snake is one of them

Dtruthspeaker:
See how you people are blind when you read?

What you call new testament
Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth,

What you call old testament
Genesis 3:13
..And the woman said, The serpent beguiled (deceived) me, and I did eat

See how you responded with full chest thinking you're intelligent. No place in genesis was the serpent mentioned as Satan.
And you're quoting an entire different culture, language and religion imbedded in an apocalyptic book seeking to gain recognition and acceptance.
Ur very dull

The Satan in the new testament is completely different from the one in the old testament.
Old testament's adversary in few places he was mentioned like Job and Ezekiel was more like an angel or messenger who did the biddings of yahweh.
Lucifer in isaiah was the babylonian empire or assyrian empire, Jesus himself was acknowledged as the "morning star" in revelation which means lucifer.

Satan did not appear anywhere in genesis account. We read about disobedient angels who was destroyed during a flood. Most importantly in genesis account during the fall we also read that it was a literal snake that made Adam and eve to sin, we're sure of this because the snake had legs before but God removed it and cursed it to crawl all the days of it's miserable life for deceiving Adam and Eve, the bible passages also contained stories where we find talking animals. So it's not strange that a snake talked in genesis.
So where did the Satan in Christianity come from? When yahweh was both evil and goodness
Isaiah 45 vs 7
New International Version
I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.

Dikegodspower:
That commissioner is filthy,

Explain how?

Many Nigerians hate transparency.
Our amiable Anambra Commissioner for education.

Prof Mrs Ngozi

May God be your strength. I heard wonderful testimonies about you in the ongoing teachers recruitment from brilliant, hard working and honest Nigerians.

What impressed me most is she was always punctual, remained right there at screening centre, simple and trying her best to organise adults to stay on line. ( most people didn't know she's the commisoner)

I also heard about blackmails and name shaming from people who can't follow due process, angry because they can't bribe their way through.
Imagine wanabbe teachers employing impersonators to write job exams for them.

One of the most transparent government job recruitment exercise in a long while

Prof Mrs Ngozi, please do not let evil win. Please do not give up. Our generation is damaged, everything has gone rogue (Political slot and bribes) no respect for public officers. We're not used to your level of uprightness... In time we will.


May good things always come to good people.

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Courz:
Jehovah's witnesses in Nigeria are Not 600,000. They are a little above 300,000. You can find that info in their Yearbook.

Another similarity you missed is that founders of both religions were Freemasons. Most religions started by Men in the 1800s were started by freemasons.

Both religions also have their own separate Bibles (New World Translation and Book of Mormon) deliberately translated to suit their doctrines.

Also, if you see LDS members, you will mistake them to be Jehovah's witnesses. Their dressing and ways are similar.

Population of witnesses in Nigeria is highest in africa and one of their top 5. 600,000 is an exergeration. Figures haven't been consistent recently due to Covid-19 but am sure recent yearbook has close to that figure considering how many circuits are in Nigeria..

Simple Similarities and Differences between Jehovah's Witnesses and Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Days Saints Church (LDS) in Nigeria

Informations obtained from their own website and literatures respectively ( no negative intention)

1. Both claim to be Christians but all mainstream christendom disagrees

2. Both are founded in USA and by Americans. Joseph Smith founded LDS in 1820, missionary to Nigeria started in late 1970's while Charles Russell started jW foundation in 1870, missionary to Nigeria started in early 1900s having the highest population in South south Nigeria (precisely Akwaibom and Rivers state)

3. Both religions are rumored to be very wealthy meanwhile LDS is the richest church in the whole world according to forbes ( LDS has one of the most transparent financial system open to the government authorities)

4. Both are non trinatarian. (They don't accept the Trinity doctrine)

5. Both believe other mainstream Christian dominations are wrong including themselves and condemned to God's wrath.

6.Both consider evangelism and missionary work essential to their belief. In LDS your missionary is sponsored by the church, you may be sent to a different country to serve at the expense of the church.

6. LDS encourages higher education and even owns universities (one of them is the best in the world) Brigham Young University in Utah( almost free) and many Nigerians has benefited from it on scholarship . JW believes the end of world is near since 1914, so why go to university and get corrupted? therefore higher learning is prohibited ( many members ignore this admonition anyway)

7. While Jehovah's witnesses build kingdom Halls ( a simple and not so furnished chapels) for there congregations, LDS builds international standard chapels for local congregations, most has a basket ball court.

8. Both faiths are sponsored by its members wilful monetary contributions and pledges.

9. Both frown at Ex or former members. Jehovah's Witnesses go the extra mile to shun/demonize them and cut ties with their family (quoting 2 corinthians)

10. Jehovah's witnesses are instructed not to participate in politics and milltary quoting "not part of the world" meanwhile LDS participate fully in politics and milltary.

11. Both believes no other denomination will accend heaven except their's. While Jehovah's witnesses believes only 144,000 will go to heaven, LDS believes all good people will go to heaven but only the saints (LDS members) will be in the CELESTIAL HEAVEN with Jehovah and non saints will be in the TERRESTRIAL HEAVEN (like a Catholic purgatory) waiting to be baptised in an LDS temple to join the saints in the celestial... They all have Bible passages to support these ideas.

12. Both believes the Bible to be authority but interpretation of their prophets / governing body is more authority.

13. Population of Nigerians that are witnesses are upto 600,000 and LDS is less than 150,000. Dominated by Southerners especially south south Nigeria ( Akwa ibom and rivers states )

14. Headquarters facility for witnesses is situated in Benin City, Edo State while for LDS is in Aba, Abia state.


15. Witnesses are discouraged to marry non witnesses (disobedience to this rule implies that your parents, relatives and friends who are witnesses won't attend any of your marriage rites, including registry). LDS are encouraged to marry themselves but there's no outlaw or punishment if you marry outside.

16. Both LDS and witnesses has their own Hymns . Many of these Hymns are masterpieces and beautiful like "give me courage" from jw, "a child's prayer" and "do you think to pray" from LDS songbook.
You can search "Terbanacle Square" on YouTube or spotify or ask witnesses arround you to share their songs with you.. You will be amazed
Meanwhile jws are not allowed to play other gospel songs apart from theirs in the kingdom hall or their comfort as it's viewed as interfaith but LDS can play whatever they like and also uses public hymns.

17. Witnesses drink alcohol. A good number but a few of them are notorious drunkards. LDS won't take alcohol or caffeine produce

18. LDS wear uniforms. Baptized Men must wear a white shirt as it signifies holiness and "Saint". Jws don't wear wear a uniform but they imitate dress codes of their leaders in America (no beards, tie and trouser, native is also allowed as long as it reaches the knee cap).

19. Their women can wear trouser but not to their church services. They can wear modest makeup too

20. Witnesses believe that the end of the world is imminent since their beginning in 1870, LDS don't, actually they do in a way "its kinda complicated".
LDS believe you rejoin God and the saints at death in the "celestial heavens". So everyone lives a good moral life pending his own end at death.

21. Both don't encourage LGBT. In JW they see it as a sin against God, catching you in the act will lead you to be "disfellowshipped" or getting shunned. In LDS you can identify as LGBT but there are stereotypes, you're seen as a sick person(natural impairment) who will have to kill own feelings towards same sex.

22. In both organisations women are not allowed to be elders, bishops or overseers. In jws women can mount the pulpit or pray over only when there's no single qualified man. In LDS women can give testimonies, talks, sermons conduct bible study rooms and other privileges but are not made elders.

23. Both allow men and women to be missionaries.


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Jehovah's witnesses vs God's kingdom society

Eckankar vs Grail message.

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Funny.. Is this poverty or what? What happened to shame

Igboho ordered no burnings, killings or created a parallel government. Igboho and nnamdi are different cases

Using violence to solve crises is usually accessible, tempting, easy and never out of reach meanwhile diplomatic and informed means of solution always seems impossible but its always there staring at our faces.
Let's hope NATO and the UN will find a way to resolve and settle this Russian and Ukraine war without any milltary sanction.

Front page material! Finally a good news from imo state

Mustlivesurvivo:
impersonation? Abi de guy don repent? Damariox? Hairyrapunzel? acupikin? Deliverance. #fake news. Nanizel..... Deicide

Hard to believe right? It's the truth bro

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