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Animosityiskey:
500 and 600level

That's very bad. Until we say enough is enough and we would rather die than continue, then change will come. The devils masquerading themselves as staffs are utterly wicked. While I was still there, I didn't see a single thing the provost did. All na wash.

Animosityiskey:
kindly follow @that_Samaritan on twitter! tweet using the harsh tag #saveourfuturedentists lets create awareness for this...lets not keep suffering and smiling! One needle ,6 patients!! this is so sad...if Nigeria isn't ready to train dentists please let them close down this place and let's "import" dentists!

what level of students? 400,500 or 600 level?

Challspace:
Delusional lot

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Feel free to add yours.

God can do as he likes. This one dey weak me pass.

It is not a new thing when christians are defeated in an argument or debate. It is usually common. One thing I have noticed is that almost at the point of christians realising that they are in error, they resort to evasion by bringing up pointless argument, threat and insults (if possible). All of these do not contribute anything to the argument at hand.

THREATS AND INTIMIDATION
When christians are obviously defeated and have nothing to say or contribute further, they escape arguments with threats like "..... hmm, I pity you repent before it's too late." as if it contributes to the argument. Other threats and intimidation include "....may you not realise the truth on the day of judgment.", "... do not increase the wrath of God. " Oga o.

INSULT
Suppose the non-christian who defeated the christian in the were to be a poor man or a begger, they would skip the argument with ".... see who is speaking against God. no wonder your life is like this.", ".... you see your life. You better come to Jesus to fix it. No wonder it is like this. " smh.

VAGUE REPLY AND POINTLESS REPLY
A man was addressing the question "why won't God heal amputees?" and he replied "... there is a man who can preach to people despite the fact that he was born without limbs. So you see, God can use you where you are and what ever your condition is." *facepalms*. He gave a vague answer. When a topic attacks the existence of God, some on nairaland reply with "another useless topic.", "this one is frustrated.","my brother, believe me God is real." etc. these replies usually have nothing to do with the argument.

IGNORING THE ARGUMENT
This happens on nairaland a lot. When you open a thread with sound arguments that would shake any faith, christians view it and ignore it. One or two that reply utilise any of the aforementioned points.

KingEbukasBlog, hopefulLandlord, HardMirror, catfishbilly, analice107, otemanuduno, Johnydon22, etc.

ScienceWatch:
If you dont mind me making a small correction to your post Sir ?

You state here WRONLY "that Atheism is a a result of mans REASONING to verify religious claims in spite of the published findings of a 22yr study that proves that ATHEISM IS A MENTAL ILLNESS.

On the other hand you fail to realize that there are three mental faculties you can use to verify something. LOGIC IS THE LOWEST FACULTY. The next highest mental faculty is REASON. I will let you tell us what the next one is.

Atheist pride themselves on LOGIC ! Which is mostly terrible because of the mental illness interference.

Martinez19 it is LOGICALLY correct for you to defend the non-paying member of Atheism MoneyJoee, but it is not REASONABLE !
This proves that you are deluded into thinking that you are using REASON when in fact you are using LOGIC. Symptoms of Mental Illness are showing. Please take care of your mental health. Joining a sports club or a comedy club produces FAR better results than Atheism.

You state that, " Atheism is a a result of mans REASONING to verify religious claims. How can you attempt such a lofty task when your Prophet of Atheism, Prof.Richard Dawkins failed so miserably ?

Remember Martinez19, to let us know what all the mental faculties are called and how to use them. This way you will be engaged in a positive contribution to the world.

Atheism reminds me of a group of washer-women GOSSIPING AND CRITICIZING everyone in their village, but never stepping out to help solve the problems.

Atheism can never offer society effective solutions to human problems as history abundantly reveal.
Could that be the reason why Moneyjoee refuses to pay his Atheism membership fees to his prophet of Atheism ?

if atheism is a mental illness, then not believing in pink unicorns, talking donkeys and talking snakes are mental illness as well. Atheism is not what will make the society improve but atheism is a step to the improvement of the society. It's like a means to an end. What improves our society is our efforts and critical reasoning in researching and study - - - - all under the umbrella of freedom from superstitions taken as reality. It's like a means to an end. Erwin Schrödinger, Max Born and Einstein were all atheist whose contributions were important.

If I may ask, what has religion contributed to the society?

It is not a new thing when christians are defeated in an argument or debate. It is usually common. One thing I have noticed is that almost at the point of christians realising that they are in error, they resort to evasion by bringing up pointless argument, threat and insults (if possible). All of these do not contribute anything to the argument at hand.

THREATS AND INTIMIDATION
When christians are obviously defeated and have nothing to say or contribute further, they escape arguments with threats like "..... hmm, I pity you repent before it's too late." as if it contributes to the argument. Other threats and intimidation include "....may you not realise the truth on the day of judgment.", "... do not increase the wrath of God. " Oga o.

INSULT
Suppose the non-christian who defeated the christian in the were to be a poor man or a begger, they would skip the argument with ".... see who is speaking against God. no wonder your life is like this.", ".... you see your life. You better come to Jesus to fix it. No wonder it is like this. " smh.

VAGUE REPLY AND POINTLESS REPLY
A man was addressing the question "why won't God heal amputees?" and he replied "... there is a man who can preach to people despite the fact that he was born without limbs. So you see, God can use you where you are and what ever your condition is." *facepalms*. He gave a vague answer. When a topic attacks the existence of God, some on nairaland reply with "another useless topic.", "this one is frustrated.","my brother, believe me God is real." etc. these replies usually have nothing to do with the argument.

IGNORING THE ARGUMENT
This happens on nairaland a lot. When you open a thread with sound arguments that would shake any faith, christians view it and ignore it. One or two that reply utilise any of the aforementioned points.

KingEbukasBlog, hopefulLandlord, HardMirror, catfishbilly, analice107, otemanuduno, Johnydon22, etc.

ScienceWatch:
Atheists pride themselves on mastering the lowest mental faculty - LOGIC. Their are lots of proof that ATHEISM has doctrine, rituals, prophet and extremely outrages membership fees.

Their is irrefutable evidence that proves that to become a true follower of Atheism or remain on the dreaded outskirts as a pretender to the inner circle of Atheism, you Monetjoee are forced to pay membership fees - Starting with 27,000Niara a month joining fee.

The Prof. Richard Dawkins website offers followers like you the awesome chance to join the ‘Reason Circle’, which, like Dante’s Hell, is arranged in concentric circles.

For only 27,000Niara a month, you get discounts on his merchandise, and the chance to meet Prophet Richard Dawkins' Foundation for Reason and Science ministers.

If you want to meet your modern day prophet of Atheism, or eat a meal with him or gain entry to Atheism's INNER CIRCLE you will have to pay up to 157million Niara.

IN contrast, At the SCOAN CHURCH there is abundant evidence from a global audience that membership is FREE !!

At the SCOAN CHURCH there is abundant evidence from a global audience that entrance to the INNER CIRCLE for effective healing is FREE. Scoan offer to thousand FREE full scholarships from primary to Phd.

Prophet TB Joshua has never ever charged anyone to eat a meal with him. But your prophet of Atheism charges the followers of Atheism up to 15.4 Million Niara to have ONLY one meal with him. HOW SAD !!

The SCOAN'S Doctrines are based on ancient scriptures that have been tried and tested for over 2700 years. Today, the scientifically verifiable evidence flowing from Scoan, Utube, royaty, dignitaries, medical doctors, Theology professors, preachers and beggars speaks
for it self.

You are a low class Atheist Moneyjoee, you are outside the INNER CIRCLE, but tell us what does your religion of Atheism contribute to society ?

As far as I know, atheism those not belong to anybody. It's just the result of man's effort of reasoning to verify religious claims. You must not be a member of Dawkins criminal organisation to become an atheist because before Dawkins was born, there have been atheists. Erwin Schrödinger, Max Born, Albert Einstein, Mark Twain etc. were all atheist and their contributions to the society lives on.

By the way, atheism is not a religion and never at any time did atheist claim that they were masters of logic. Leave MONEYJOEE alone.

Odenjiji:
LUTH is a death centre. It has killed more patients than it has treated. The Kill to Treat ratio can be put at 5:1.

education in this country na wash.

Christians are big time hypocrites. When the going is smooth and comfortable, they profess God and his power. When life gets tough, they drop the God shit and seek "realistic solutions" only for them to go back when life returns to comfort.

ScienceWatch:
It is good to see how you work hard to help your fellow low level Atheist, Martinez19 to quickly get to the primary level of Atheism.

His answer will be No, then he has been converted to Atheism. You stopped there when you should have also told him of the cost of Atheism. And that he must save enough money so he can meet the FAILED modern Prophet of Atheism Richard Dawkins.
You have also failed to tell him that many countries will be afraid of him.

Why are so many countries afraid of Atheists ?

Atheists living in 13 countries risk being condemned to death, just for their beliefs (or non-belief) according to a new, comprehensive report from the International Humanist and Ethical Union out on Tuesday. All 13 countries identified by the study are Muslim majority.

The known countries that impose these penalties are Afghanistan, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen. With the exception of Pakistan, those countries all allow for capital punishment against apostasy, i.e., the renunciation of a particular religion. Pakistan, meanwhile, imposes the death penalty for blasphemy, which can obviously include disbelief in God.

You should have told Martinez19 of the huge financial cost of become a true follower of Atheism or remain on the dreaded outskirts as a pretender to the inner circle. Starting with 27,000Niara a month joining fee.

The Richard Dawkins website offers followers like Martinez19 the chance to join the ‘Reason Circle’, which, like Dante’s Hell, is arranged in concentric circles. For 27,000Niara a month, you get discounts on his merchandise, and the chance to meet ‘Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science personalities’.

Obviously that’s not enough to see the Atheist prophet himself. For that you pay 66,000Niara a month for the chance to attend an event where he will speak.

When you compare this to the going rate for other charismatic preachers, it is on the extremely high side. The Pentecostal evangelist Morris Cerullo, for example, charges only $30 a month to become a member of ‘God’s Victorious Army’, which is bringing ‘healing and deliverance to the world’. And from Cerullo you get free DVDs, not just discounts.

Membership at the SCOAN church is FREE. Access to the Inner Circle of Healing is FREE. Access to scholarships are FREE and many more.

After the Martinez19 passes through the successively more expensive ‘Darwin Circle’ and then the ‘Evolution Circle’, he attains the innermost circle, where for 31.4million Niara a year or more he gets to have a private breakfast or lunch with the failed Prophet of Modern Atheism, Richard Dawkins, and a reserved table at an invitation-only circle event with ‘Richard’ as well as ‘all the benefits listed above’, so he still gets a discount on his Richard Dawkins T-shirt saying ‘Religion — together we can find a cure.’

The Atheism website of prophet Dawkins suggests that donations of up to 157million Niara a year will be accepted for the privilege of eating with the Atheist Prophet once a year: at this level of contribution you become a member of something called ‘The Magic of Reality Circle’.

You never told Martinez19 because you are not a recognized Atheist. You are outside the coveted Inner Circle of Atheism.

what are you saying? If what you are saying is true, then I have lost respect for Dawkins, how can you charge money for telling and supporting the truth? That is dubious. It's like church business you know.

What level are we talking about?

Davidgrey:
[color=#000050]lol!!

First of all......sleeping pills where made because it’s harder to sleep than it is to wake hence the need for "sleeping pills"

"Your brain runs on chemically driven timed cycles, once the sleep function chemistry in your brain uses up that sleep session’s chemistry, waking chemistry starts taking over....if you failed to grasp that....Your biological clock (a mechanism that controls the physiological activities) determines when you wake up. There is a gene called 'KDM5A' that releases a protein responsible for reactivating all the physiological functions that get us up and out of bed. When the protein is released, you wake up" [/color]

[color=#000050] Animals sleep and wake up everyday, There is nothing special about the ability to "wake up" Ignorance is your problem

There are many variables that can change what will happen to a person the next day, There is nothing spiritual about that, If you decide to take your "life" today, You can and have access to the means , It's your choice and nothing else.


About death let's be factual.....Life is also present in chickens, cows and other animals that are killed everyday? [/color]

[color=#000050] Shame that you religious clowns ignore basic logic, The same way animals decay when buried is the same way your body will decay, What that book written by opinionated men wouldn’t tell you is that your body will be eaten by organisms and worms, These organisms will die some meters from your grave, Enriching the soil for future generations that is an "objectively verifiable truth"

Every organism has life, The fact that your species are dominant don't change it's decay process or the cycle of life [/color]

[color=#000050] There is nothing complex about man like I said earlier it's the absence of knowledge that you use "religion" to fill, when you don't understand something it's god, when science corrects you repeatedly you "eventually accept and without shame" embrace the process and say "God works in mysterious ways

If the world thought like you religious clowns we will all still be in caves, keep using religion to answer questions that you have no answers for......in the science world they call your logic "the god of the gaps"

Trees, Rivers and all living things are the product of centuries of evolution, The same way iPhone7 is the evolution of iPhone3G.[/color]

how come person know book like this?

Chuukwudi:
Debating the existence of the spiritual by means of the intellect is futile. Not to talk of the existence of the Divine Spiritual Unsubstantiate (God).


The Intellect is gross material and highly limited under the confines of time and space.

the words of a mental slave to Yahweh.

OtemAtum:
Yahweh ti kanjogbon

Notice that christians avoided this thread. Not long from now, yahweh will be a thing of the past .

OtemAtum:
Yahweh ti kanjogbon

Notice that christians avoided this thread. Not long from now, yahweh will be a thing of the past

bennyann:
I know you're doing all these to ridicule the christian faith but since you need me here, let me make known to you my state of mind.

We are all in this same world, all on a journey but with different potentials and destinies.

I am a Christian, one who wants to be like Christ and doesn't ever want to disappoint Him. That's me

I have decided by the special grace of God, nothing will separate me from the love of God, not tough times and not good times.

We all go through trying times, whether you're bad or good, you're a Christian or not. My own duty is never to leave God at any point in time. It is never to give up on God.

If the ones without God can go through tough times and come out of it, I am to go through it and not compromise my faith till I've come out of it and still continue in God throughout my life's journey.

And I am confident I will definitely move forward, I'm confident that joy comes in the morning but as a Christian, if it seems the morning won't come, I am then like a soldier, like Daniel, like Esther in the Bible, I will love my God to the very end and go by His word and if I perish, I perish but I wouldn't give up on Him. I think this is why I admire Job so much.

Christians are soldiers. Their God will come through for them but they should know the Christian race is not Bread and butter. Jesus never hid anything from us, He laid bare how our journey would look like. The main thing is for us not to give up on God no matter the situation. I've taken my cross to follow Jesus, I don't know about the others.

If I live, I live for God and if I die, I die for Him. That's my purpose, that's what I'm pursuing. I'm not pursuing myself. And Jesus hasn't given me a commandment that's against anyone so I'm ok with my choice.

SUMMARY : no matter the evidences or rational arguments that proves that Yahweh is a fabrication, I shall remain a follower and a mental slave to Yahweh.

bennyann:
The little experience I shared here is something rare of me.

So my dear soothe yourself

what experience?

MONEYJOEE:
Damn! One of the pained Christian admin here just hid one of my post.

Don't mind him/her. Anything to hang on the religion or embrace irrationality despite evidence, that the sheeples will do. They are afraid to loose their faith.

MONEYJOEE:
They suspend belief pending when there's any verifiable evidence for that god.



I don't know of any atheist that act as though they know for certain there can't be a god. However they can easily know that religious gods are nothing but ancient humans construct. Come on friend, you don't have to be omniscient to know there's nothing like cubic sphere. When you claim your god created our world but your god turned out to be a flat earther, like the hypothetical cubic sphere, we can easily dismiss that god as nonexistent and bad fiction. You don't need unlimited knowledge to know that religious gods are insult to common sense. That being said, crossing out the religious gods still doesn't rule out the possibility of any god. But that doesn't mean we should accept any claim borne out of human infantile imagination and supposition with zero basis on empirical evidence and reality. (This is a nod to the deist lazy god). As atheist we don't make any claims, as a matter of fact, most of us will reverse our stance in the face of evidence, unfortunately not one of you who arrogantly claim to know there's god have been able to proffer a tiny shred of evidence.

Gbam! If all the average citizens thought like you ehn, things would definitely be better.

bennyann:
I only gave an in depth explanation of what I quoted. But you putting it in a question form seem humbling

bennyann, you have not told me what you believe in. Tell me.

akintom:
This is lacking in depth and coherence, as far as the subject matter is concerned. You all need not roast, in the delusional flame of servantEbukaBlog.

Atheist simply says, do you have evidence for your faulty claims? Y'all go spewing irrelevant stuffs.

I used to think that atheism is simply a disbelief in any god, I thought science is the one that is mainly concerned with evidence. I have checked it now, everyone is an atheist in the sense that they don't believe in other gods.

..... continued

6) VAGUENESS AND IMPRECISION : ever heard the following "god will do it at his own time and how he will do it, I don't know."? Or " there is a woman here(say her name nah), God said I should tell you that he is going to bless you.", " one day, the Lord will answer" etc. The wise ones would know where I am heading.

7) GOD CAN DO AS HE LIKES: Oga o.

CASE: my prayers were not answered.
CHRISTIAN THEODICY : It is not the will of god, you didn't follow some spiritual principles, there is a sin in your life, you did not pray enough, it's not yet time, God doesn't answer that kind of prayer , God has a better plan(who send him message )

CAES: an atheist is poor and a christian is poor.
CHRISTIAN THEODICY : the atheist refused to serve god that is why his life is like this. The christian's faith is being tested and he is in a trial. He will wait for god's time.

Everyone atheist would have noticed that no matter what happens in this world, christians would always cook up explanations to vindicated yahweh. Even the bible is well forged to withstand and counter any truth that attacks the credibility of yahweh. The tools used by christians to depend yahweh and their beliefs are :

1) METAPHORS AND ALLEGORIES : o yes, when certain claims in the bible are obviously false, the sheeples use metaphors and allegories to make it make sense. As it turns out almost every part of the bible needs metaphors and allegories to make sense.

2) THE WILL OF YAWEH AND YEWEH'S PLAN: the will and plan of yahweh is so mysterious and irrational that atheists and theists alike don't know and can't mentally grasp it. These two things together with God's mysterious nature are used to give explanations for why the same fate befalls everyone regardless of their beliefs.
Example,
An atheist dies young, the sheeples say he left himself vulnerable to the devil's attack by not believing in God.
An atheist lives long, the sheeples say that God is sparing his life for repentance.
An atheist is poor, the sheeples say that it is so because he does not believe in God.
An atheist is rich, they say that he did blood money, his hands are not clean and he is a Bull fattened to be slaughtered. I could continue on and on.

3) THE WAYS OF THE SPIRIT, YAHWEH AND SPIRIT WORLD: these are mysterious and irrational, atheist and theist don't understand this shit but it will remain mysterious forever. The mystery and irrationality of the ways of yahweh, the spirit and spirit world are used to defend why certain things happened in the bible,why yahweh choose to be petty instead of direct etc.

4) YAHWEH KNOWS BEST : whatever happens, good or bad, yahweh knows best and there is one reason (which atheist and theist know nothing of) why it happened.

5) FAITH, PATIENCE, TEST AND TRIALS : though, this is a one of the integral doctrines of the bible, but it is a tool of theodicy in the sense that the jewish bastards who wrote the bible knew that prayers are useless and the same fate shall befall all despite yours beliefs, forge these to make sense of prayer and buy time when waiting for answered prayers. They also used to vindicate suffering in believers' lives.

You can add to the list,
KingEbukasBlog, hopefulLandlord, HardMirror, Johnydon22, bennyann, otemanuduno and co

To be continued.....

MONEYJOEE:
I know right. He's just a brainwashed dumbfuck who will do and say anything not minding how stupid and dishonest it is to defend his parents delusion. Ebuka's case is an issue of indoctrination. I have a friend like him whose Internet search history ranges from "why evolution is a lie," "atheism is dangerous to human health," "atheists are poor," to "atheism is devilish" His stupidity and penchant for lies shouldn't be surprising given he pull those shite he scrawls here from Christian sites. Don't you see his mentor, a lying asshole like WLC. Had it been that young man was born to Muslim parents in Saudi Arabia, he would have been a fuckin' Mohammedan telling people on this forum that Jesus is not God but Allah.

Deep down inside him he knows how fucckked and irrational theism is but can he jettison his long held belief? Not likely. This gave birth to his obsession with deism.

With regards to your one of your post, I would say that I am an atheist. I thought being an atheist means you don't believe in any god, not even one. I thought the fact that someone believing in a single god rules him out from being an atheist. This led me to be scientific in my views, scientific in the sense that claim would make sense to me if they pass the test of evidence, critical thinking and reason.

On KingEbukasBlog, I would say that he is one of those who choose to hang on to his irrational delusion no matter what. People who intentionally ignore evidence in order to stick to lies of the abrahamic religion are one of the problems of humanity.

KingEbukasBlog:
Now you are talking ! Haba !

So my brother , list these things let me debunk them sharp sharp no time to waste .

I am not an atheist neither am I a religious person. Religious folks say there is a God, which is their God. A careful analysis shows that their calms are false are senseless. Atheist on the other hand should provide their basis and lines of argument if they say there is no God. Atheist may and should say that religious god are false and we don't believe in them. Of course, there might be a God who is not of any religion like near death experiencers encounter, but how would you know?

I am scientific in my views. I know religion is bunk and lies.

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism is not concerned with Yahweh's ability to heal diseases but in His existence . This means that any response on this thread about the OP is totally extraneous since you are an atheist .

Do you understand now ?

Abegi, if a God says something that is not true or lies about his abilities, it should make the wise question his credibility. There are many things which people look at to infer that there is no God. So Princess Ebuka, sorry I meant KingEbukasBlog, his healing abilities are a major concern.

KingEbukasBlog:
I've addressed miracles with this same fellow many times, so what he has there is a rehash of usual arguments he made months ago . There is nothing new to address .

Can you bail him out , what business has atheism with the op ? because a deist who acknowledges God's existence can still make the same argument .

Please try to disappoint and say something reasonable

Indeed atheism has nothing to do, you could be a deist and still make the op's point but the question is do you believe in any of the religious gods? If you do believe in the christian god, then that's where the problem lies.

KingEbukasBlog:
An atheist is someone who is against the existence of God/gods , not religion , not miracles, just God or gods !

Ignorance of different religions especially non theistic ones has made you believe that miracles are only associated with God .

Deists also acknowledge the existence of God while rejecting miracles

So I ask again , since you are an atheist , where does atheism actually come in in your post ?

Princess Ebuka, sorry I meant KingEbukasBlog, stop all this ranting and contribute in light of the op's point. Stop running away. Religious healings are scams.

bennyann:
Mine is luvmitender

Okay fine, tell me about what you believe, I would love to hear from you and ask questions where necessary. You know I want to learn from you.

Jhaytee4all:
Does the Holy Bible or Jesus really approves dating?

Read the topic and then post according to the purpose of the topic. Don't derail the thread.

Dalamama:
Nothing fails like prayers.

I swear