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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 7:05am On Jul 25, 2021 |
Janosky: When you catch them in their lies they say Jehovah's witnesses are not perfect But when they come to "study bible" with interested persons they tell them the Watch Tower is God's only channel of communication to mankind 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 6:34am On Jul 25, 2021 |
Janosky: How hard can it be to confirm from your Jw library 6 Likes 4 Shares |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 11:59pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Incase anyone is wondering the contents of the attached Watchtower books and magazines below is a perfect examples of what you'll find Will the men of Sodom be resurrected? Watchtower 7/18/1879 p. 8 = Yes Watchtower 6/1/1952 p. 338 = No Watchtower78/1/1965 p. 47g = Yes Watchtower7 6/1/1988 p. 31 = No Live Forever (old edition ) p. 179 = Yes Live Forever (new edition ) p. 179 = No Insight, volume 2, p. 985 = Yes Revelation book, p. 273 = No
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Religion / Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by maximunimpact(m): 11:46pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
Janosky: It wasn't me that condemned wrong predictions, it's your governing body that wrote it Are you now saying your watchtower lied on the declaration below “Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ). 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: Could This Be True About Religion? by maximunimpact(m): 8:55pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
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Religion / Re: Could This Be True About Religion? by maximunimpact(m): 8:16pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Between me and you who carry Watch Tower ORGANISATION for head? Who is defending his ORGANISATION even when given thousands of evidence of outright LIES and CONTRADICTIONS? You maybe 55yrs old but you have the brain of a 15yr old Let me remind you the confusion your ORGANISATION is capable of: Will the men of Sodom be resurrected? Watchtower 7/18/1879 p. 8 = Yes Watchtower 6/1/1952 p. 338 = No Watchtower78/1/1965 p. 47g = Yes Watchtower7 6/1/1988 p. 31 = No Live Forever (old edition ) p. 179 = Yes Live Forever (new edition ) p. 179 = No Insight, volume 2, p. 985 = Yes Revelation book, p. 273 = No |
Religion / Re: Could This Be True About Religion? by maximunimpact(m): 10:42am On Jul 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse trying to sound intelligent but still devote his life to the ORGANISATION captured below: Jehovah's witnesses Contradictions, Another Contradictions & more Contradictions We are told to be witnesses in the New Testament, but not once are we referred to as Jehovah’s Witnesses. Why be called a name "given to you by God," only to change it three more times? If God gave the JW's the name they now have, were the names they had before wrong? If they had the wrong names before, what makes them so sure that they have the right name now? How much does that speak to their credibility? First Name: Zion’s Watchtower society 1884 Second Name: The People’s Pulpit Association 1909 Third Name: The International Bible Student’s Association 1914 Current name: Jehovah’s Witnesses 1931 Why were they without a name that they believe was divinely given to them for sixty years? Russell never came up with “Jehovah’s Witnesses,” it was a title that he never used or intended to. Why is it that the teachings of Russell have slowly disappeared? As the founder of this group, shouldn’t he be a cornerstone for what is being taught? Why isn’t anyone held accountable for the prophecies being spoken? Why would I want to join a church that was born of lies and confusion? "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints." I Corinthians 14:33 The Watchtower has the right to make these prophecies (all false so far), but when they claim to be God’s only voice on earth, their integrity is destroyed. Why should I believe them, when they have such a bad track record? Lies and suppression of facts are common in politics and business, but one expects to find honesty in those who claim to be speaking for God. Old Light, New Light & Black Light When the organization wrote prophecies in the Watchtower magazine that failed, they use the terminology of "new light" to explain it away. The concept of New light is taken from Proverbs 4:18 “But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.” Typical of the JW's almost complete lack of Bible knowledge, this verse is not speaking about prophecy or direct revelation from God, but the righteous man's increasing ability to live a holier life with age and experience. (i) New Light should not contradict Old Light, but it often does with Jehovah's Witnesses. (ii) The fact that Jehovah's Witnesses actually swallow this "New Light" explanation from the organization when prophecies fail is the ultimate testimony of their blind faith in false human organizations. (iii) We invite all new Jehovah's Witness converts to closely decide for themselves if "New light" adds to "Old Light" or flatly contradicts it. Some examples of blinking lights: Will the men of Sodom be resurrected? Watchtower 7/18/1879 p. 8 = Yes Watchtower 6/1/1952 p. 338 = No Watchtower78/1/1965 p. 47g = Yes Watchtower7 6/1/1988 p. 31 = No Live Forever (old edition ) p. 179 = Yes Live Forever (new edition ) p. 179 = No Insight, volume 2, p. 985 = Yes Revelation book, p. 273 = No |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 9:43am On Jul 24, 2021 |
OUR NEW TOPIC OF DISCUSSION HAVE ARRIVED!!! Contradictions, Another Contradictions & more Contradictions We are told to be witnesses in the New Testament, but not once are we referred to as Jehovah’s Witnesses. Why be called a name "given to you by God," only to change it three more times? If God gave the JW's the name they now have, were the names they had before wrong? If they had the wrong names before, what makes them so sure that they have the right name now? How much does that speak to their credibility? First Name: Zion’s Watchtower society 1884 Second Name: The People’s Pulpit Association 1909 Third Name: The International Bible Student’s Association 1914 Current name: Jehovah’s Witnesses 1931 Why were they without a name that they believe was divinely given to them for sixty years? Russell never came up with “Jehovah’s Witnesses,” it was a title that he never used or intended to. Why is it that the teachings of Russell have slowly disappeared? As the founder of this group, shouldn’t he be a cornerstone for what is being taught? Why isn’t anyone held accountable for the prophecies being spoken? Why would I want to join a church that was born of lies and confusion? "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints." I Corinthians 14:33 The Watchtower has the right to make these prophecies (all false so far), but when they claim to be God’s only voice on earth, their integrity is destroyed. Why should I believe them, when they have such a bad track record? Lies and suppression of facts are common in politics and business, but one expects to find honesty in those who claim to be speaking for God. Old Light, New Light & Black Light When the organization wrote prophecies in the Watchtower magazine that failed, they use the terminology of "new light" to explain it away. The concept of New light is taken from Proverbs 4:18 “But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.” Typical of the JW's almost complete lack of Bible knowledge, this verse is not speaking about prophecy or direct revelation from God, but the righteous man's increasing ability to live a holier life with age and experience. (i) New Light should not contradict Old Light, but it often does with Jehovah's Witnesses. (ii) The fact that Jehovah's Witnesses actually swallow this "New Light" explanation from the organization when prophecies fail is the ultimate testimony of their blind faith in false human organizations. (iii) We invite all new Jehovah's Witness converts to closely decide for themselves if "New light" adds to "Old Light" or flatly contradicts it. Some examples of blinking lights: Will the men of Sodom be resurrected? Watchtower 7/18/1879 p. 8 = Yes Watchtower 6/1/1952 p. 338 = No Watchtower78/1/1965 p. 47g = Yes Watchtower7 6/1/1988 p. 31 = No Live Forever (old edition ) p. 179 = Yes Live Forever (new edition ) p. 179 = No Insight, volume 2, p. 985 = Yes Revelation book, p. 273 = No In light of the above, how can any sane individual trust this kind of ORGANISATION! Comment your thoughts below....... 2 Likes 1 Share
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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:19am On Jul 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: "Jehovah's channel of communication to mankind" have said it all “Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ). 2 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 9:23pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
OUR NEW TOPIC OF DISCUSSION HAVE ARRIVED!!! Contradictions, Another Contradictions & more Contradictions We are told to be witnesses in the New Testament, but not once are we referred to as Jehovah’s Witnesses. Why be called a name "given to you by God," only to change it three more times? If God gave the JW's the name they now have, were the names they had before wrong? If they had the wrong names before, what makes them so sure that they have the right name now? How much does that speak to their credibility? Name one: Zion’s Watchtower society 1884 Name two: The People’s Pulpit Association 1909 Name three: The International Bible Student’s Association 1914 Current name: Jehovah’s Witnesses 1931 Why were they without a name that they believe was divinely given to them for sixty years? Russell never came up with “Jehovah’s Witnesses,” it was a title that he never used or intended to. Why is it that the teachings of Russell have slowly disappeared? As the founder of this group, shouldn’t he be a cornerstone for what is being taught? Why isn’t anyone held accountable for the prophecies being spoken? Why would I want to join a church that was born of lies and confusion? "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints." I Corinthians 14:33 The Watchtower has the right to make these prophecies (all false so far), but when they claim to God’s only voice on earth, their integrity is destroyed. Why should I believe them, when they have such a bad track record? Lies and suppression of facts are common in politics and business, but one expects to find honesty in those who claim to be speaking for God. Old Light, New Light & Black Light When the organization wrote prophecies in the Watchtower magazine that failed, they use the terminology of "new light" to explain it away. The concept of New light is taken from Proverbs 4:18 “But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.” Typical of the JW's almost complete lack of Bible knowledge, this verse is not speaking about prophecy or direct revelation from God, but the righteous man's increasing ability to live a holier life with age and experience. (i) New Light should not contradict Old Light, but it often does with Jehovah's Witnesses. (ii) The fact that Jehovah's Witnesses actually swallow this "New Light" explanation from the organization when prophecies fail is the ultimate testimony of their blind faith in false human organizations. (iii) We invite all new Jehovah's Witness converts to closely decide for themselves if "New light" adds to "Old Light" or flatly contradicts it. Some examples of blinking lights: Will the men of Sodom be resurrected? Watchtower 7/18/1879 p. 8 = Yes Watchtower 6/1/1952 p. 338 = No Watchtower78/1/1965 p. 47g = Yes Watchtower7 6/1/1988 p. 31 = No Live Forever (old edition ) p. 179 = Yes Live Forever (new edition ) p. 179 = No Insight, volume 2, p. 985 = Yes Revelation book, p. 273 = No In light of the above, how can any sane individual trust this kind of ORGANISATION! Comment your thoughts below....... 2 Likes 1 Share
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Foreign Affairs / Re: Sierra Leone Abolishes Death Penalty by maximunimpact(m): 6:10pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 4:54pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
DappaD: JWs neutral in politics in the day but active at night
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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 2:55pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 2:51pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Really How about your watchtower governing body that are neutral by day and active at night
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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 2:07pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 2:06pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Yes am novice in state affairs And you are a pro in state affairs So who's the politician now 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 1:20pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 1:18pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: From politics to war See how MaxInDHouse have lost focus Speaking of wars, his CIA Organization is responsible for many chaos around the world Don't worry, your new topic on WARS will soon be addressed 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 12:04pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Is this the false accusation you are talking about? I know your next move is to lie and cover up the truth about Watch Tower's political neutrality, but am not surprised because you are like your father John 8:44 (KJV): Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 11:14am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: So its nolonger about me posting only political articles and its now because I exited religious section, guess which section we are right now I thought you were obsessed about politics a while back until i exposed Watch Tower's hypocrisy on political neutrality.... 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 10:31am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Am preaching to you here Or are JWs the only GROUP allowed to knock on doors for the preaching work? Jesus is knocking at the door of your heart Revelation 3:20 “Look! I stand at the door and knock. If you hear my voice and open the door, I will come in, and we will share a meal together as friends. Open up to JESUS and be saved! ORGANISATIONS cannot save YOU! 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 10:24am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Cry baby You better go on your knees and cry to Jesus the author and finisher our our faith Hebrews 12:2 (KJV) Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 10:21am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Disturbing thread with evidence of lies from watch tower 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 10:04am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse it looks like our next topic is POLITICS Now let's talk about JWs and POLITICS! The Watch Tower claims the United Nations is the image of the WILD BEAST mentioned in the book of Revelation, in other words UN embodied world politics; below is how Watch Tower views the UN: Kingdom Ministries (Canada) May 2005 p1 Jehovah’s day is near As recorded at Revelation 17:9-11 the apostle John mentions seven kings, representing a succession of seven worldly powers. John also refer to an eighth king which now represents the United Nations. are we to expect other world powers to come to the scene? No, the prophecy states that this eighth king goes off into destruction, after which no earthly kings are mentioned. Does this prophesy help you to see where we are in the stream of time. Watchtower November 15, 2001 p.19 'No Calamity Will Befall Us' 14 Anointed Christians are like alien residents living in tents apart from this system of things. Not even a plague draws near their tent. Whether our hope is heavenly or earthly, we are no part of the world, and we are not infected by such spiritually deadly plagues as its immorality, materialism, false religion and worship of the 'wild beast' and it's 'image', the United Nations. Watchtower 1982 July 15 pp.22-26 Benefiting From Your God-given Conscience [Box on page 26] Watchtower 1999 May 1 p.15 "Let the Reader Use Discernment" A Modern-Day "Disgusting Thing" 7 Since World War I, we have seen the larger fulfillment of Jesus' sign recorded in Matthew chapter 24. Yet, recall his words: "When you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation . . . standing in a holy place, . . . then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains." (Matthew 24:15, 16) This aspect of the prophecy must have a fulfillment in our time too. 8 Demonstrating the confidence of Jehovah's servants that this prophecy would be fulfilled, The Watchtower of January 1, 1921, focused on it in connection with developments in the Middle East. Subsequently, in its December 15, 1929, issue, on page 374, The Watchtower definitively said: "The whole tendency of the League of Nations is to turn the people away from God and from Christ, and it is therefore a desolating thing, the product of Satan, and an abomination in the sight of God." So in 1919 "the disgusting thing" appeared. In time, the League gave way to the United Nations. Jehovah's Witnesses have long exposed these human peace organizations as disgusting in God's sight. 15 Revelation depicts "a scarlet-colored wild beast" that exists for a time, disappears, and then returns. (Revelation 17:3, This beast is supported by world rulers. Details supplied in the prophecy help us to identify this symbolic beast as a peace organization that came into existence in 1919 as the League of Nations (a "disgusting thing" and that is now the United Nations. Revelation 17:16, 17 shows that God will yet put it into the hearts of certain human rulers who are prominent in this "beast" to desolate the world empire of false religion. That attack marks the outbreak of the great tribulation. Kingdom Ministry December 1998 p.5 Theocratic Ministry School Review 9. Revelation 13:11-15 accurately portrays how the Anglo-American World Power became chief sponsor and life-giver both to the League of Nations and to its successor, the United Nations. [Weekly Bible reading; see w88 12/15 p. 19 par. 3.] True. Kingdom Ministry August 1994 pp.5-6 Theocratic Ministry School Review 20. What was "the disgusting thing that causes desolation" in the first century, and what is it today? (Matt. 24:15) [gt chap. 111] In 66 C.E., it was the Roman armies that surrounded Jerusalem; today it is the United Nations. Kingdom Ministry February 1976 p.1 Branch Letter Our brothers in Malawi and in Mozambique do not have all the printed aids that we do, but they continue to praise Jehovah. Even the vicious persecution that has come on them has resulted in the giving of a tremendous witness. (Phil. 1:12-14) We have at hand reports from all parts of the United States, besides Kenya, South Africa, Hong Kong, Malaysia, England, Canada and France, telling what is happening to our brothers in Malawi. Copies of the Awake! report on Malawi were furnished to representatives to the United Nations, to all U.S. congressman and senators. We know of over seventy radio stations that have carried the story. At least ten TV stations have featured it. Thus the world is hearing what is happening to Jehovah's people because they uphold God's kingdom. All of this contributes to the separating of people as foretold in Matthew 25:31-46. Kingdom Ministry September 1970 p.1 Branch Letter As we think back on the highlights of the program, we also remember the identification of the "disgusting thing" with the scarlet-colored beast of Revelation chapter 17, the United Nations. That is something that folks had been asking about ever since the assemblies last year. Watchtower 1991 June 1 p.19 Their Refuge—A Lie! [for the complete Watchtower article, with its detailed explanation of the United Nations standing together with Christendom against God's will, see next quote] 20 Christendom rested her hopes in the League of Nations, but it was overturned even without the coming of Armageddon. Now she has transferred her allegiance to the United Nations. But it will soon have to face "the war of the great day of God the Almighty," and it will not survive. (Revelation 16:14) Even a revived UN can never bring peace and security. God's prophetic Word shows that the United Nations organization with its member nations "will battle with the Lamb [Christ in Kingdom power], but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them."—Revelation 17:14. Watchtower 1991 June 1 pp.15-20 Their Refuge—A Lie! 6 Confident in their political alliances, Jerusalem's leaders were sure that no "overflowing flash flood" of invading armies would come near them to disturb their peace and security. When threatened by an alliance of Israel and Syria, Judah turned to Assyria for help. (2 Kings 16:5-9) Later, when menaced by the military forces of Babylon, she appealed to Egypt for support and Pharaoh responded, sending an army to help.—Jeremiah 37:5-8; Ezekiel 17:11-15. 7 But Babylon's armies were too powerful, and Egypt's troops had to withdraw. Jerusalem's placing confidence in Egypt proved to be a mistake, and in 607 B.C.E., Jehovah abandoned her to the destruction he had foretold. So Jerusalem's rulers and priests were wrong! Their trust in worldly alliances for peace and security was "a lie" that was swept away by the flash flood of Babylon's armies. After demonizing the UN: Watchtower Become a UN associate as an NGO member In 1991 the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of New York applied to the United Nations to become an NGO. In 1992 the Watchtower’s application was granted. As part of being a United Nation’s NGO the Watchtower agreed to a number of criteria that had to be met every year. On Joining in 1992 all NGO’s agreed with the below requirement ; The principal purpose of association of non-governmental organizations with the United Nations Department of Public Information is the re-dissemination of information in order to increase public understanding of the principles, activities and achievements of the United Nations and its Agencies. Consequently, it is important that you should keep us informed about your organization's information program as it relates to the United Nations, including sending us issues of your relevant publications. We are enclosing a brochure on the The United Nations and Non-Governmental Organizations, which will give you some information When news of the Watchtower’s involvement with the UN appeared in the Guardian (UK tabloid) the Watchtower requested that they disassociate themselves. When news reached the “rank and file” Jehovah’s Witnesses, they inundated theUN offices so much with inquiries that the UN were forced to post the following letter on their web site. Jehovah's Witnesses link to UN queried - Sect accused of hypocrisy over association with organisation it has demonised The United Nations is being asked to investigate why it has granted associate status to the Jehovah's Witnesses, the fundamentalist US-based Christian sect, which regards it as the scarlet beast predicted in the Book of Revelation. Disaffected members of the 6m-strong group, which has 130,000 followers in the UK, have accused the Witnesses' elderly governing body of hypocrisy in secretly accepting links with an organisation that they continue to denounce in apocalyptic terms. The UN itself admitted yesterday that it was surprised that the sect, whose formal name is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, had been accepted on its list of non-governmental organisations for the last 10 years. A former member said: "There is a glaring inconsistency which has emerged between the WTBTS's frequent portrayal of the UN as an evil organisation and its behind-the-scenes attempts to curry favour with that organisation. Were individual members to be aware of any formal link they would be devastated. "By no stretch of the imagination could the WTBTS be considered to share the ideals of the UN charter unless you suppose that destruction of the UN by God is consistent with that charter." The Witnesses, most frequently encountered by non-members when they attempt to make doorstep conversions, have faced accusations of bad faith before. These have been most notably over the hierarchy's insistence that members should not accept blood transfusions and over accusations that sexual abuse of children by Witnesses' ministers in the US have been covered up. Followers who criticise the Witnesses' leaders or question their decisions are routinely "disfellowshipped" which means fellow members including their families must shun them. An obscure and ill-publicised decision by the hierarchy in New York last year modifying the prohibition on transfusions by deeming that God had revealed to them that transfusions of some blood components might be acceptable, providing there was later repentance, has come too late for many hundreds of followers known to have died because they refused blood. In child abuse cases, the hierarchy insists there must be two independent witnesses - an almost impossible stipulation - before accusations are investigated. The Watchtower Society has been denouncing the UN and its predecessor the League of Nations for 80 years, believing them to be a world empire of false religion, predicted in the Book of Revelation. A recent publication since the organisation obtained its recognition describes the UN as "a disgusting thing in the sight of God and his people". In an internal document, the WTBTS describes its policy as a "theocratic war strategy". It claims: "In time of spiritual warfare it is proper to misdirect the enemy by hiding the truth. It is done unselfishly; it does not harm anyone; on the contrary it does much good." Being a recognised NGO with the United Nations - as more than 1,500 organisations are - gives status though not grants. To qualify, organisations must show that they share the ideals of the charter, operate on a non-profit basis, "demonstrate interest in UN issues and proven ability to reach large or specialised audiences" and have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes about UN activities. Disaffected Witnesses believe that the association, which has not been publicised to followers, is intended to increase the cult's respectability to sceptical governments, such as France's, which have refused to recognise it. Paul Gillies, the Witnesses' spokesman in Britain, said: "We do not have hostile attitudes to governing bodies and if we are making representations on issues to the UN we will do so." "There are good and bad bodies just as there are good and bad politicians. We believe what the Book of Revelation tells us but we do not actively try to change the political system." A spokeswoman for the UN said: "I think we may not be aware of their attitude, which seems to be really strange." https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/oct/08/religion.world Much like every other sanctimonious believe they pay lip-service to, JWs are also paying lip-service about neutrality in politics!
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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 9:42am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse the floor is now open, come let's discuss the politics Governing Body played with the IMAGE OF THE WILD BEAST |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 9:41am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse it looks like our next topic is POLITICS Now let's talk about JWs and POLITICS! The Watch Tower claims the United Nations is the image of the WILD BEAST mentioned in the book of Revelation, in other words UN embodied world politics; below is how Watch Tower views the UN: Kingdom Ministries (Canada) May 2005 p1 Jehovah’s day is near As recorded at Revelation 17:9-11 the apostle John mentions seven kings, representing a succession of seven worldly powers. John also refer to an eighth king which now represents the United Nations. are we to expect other world powers to come to the scene? No, the prophecy states that this eighth king goes off into destruction, after which no earthly kings are mentioned. Does this prophesy help you to see where we are in the stream of time. Watchtower November 15, 2001 p.19 'No Calamity Will Befall Us' 14 Anointed Christians are like alien residents living in tents apart from this system of things. Not even a plague draws near their tent. Whether our hope is heavenly or earthly, we are no part of the world, and we are not infected by such spiritually deadly plagues as its immorality, materialism, false religion and worship of the 'wild beast' and it's 'image', the United Nations. Watchtower 1982 July 15 pp.22-26 Benefiting From Your God-given Conscience [Box on page 26] Watchtower 1999 May 1 p.15 "Let the Reader Use Discernment" A Modern-Day "Disgusting Thing" 7 Since World War I, we have seen the larger fulfillment of Jesus' sign recorded in Matthew chapter 24. Yet, recall his words: "When you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation . . . standing in a holy place, . . . then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains." (Matthew 24:15, 16) This aspect of the prophecy must have a fulfillment in our time too. 8 Demonstrating the confidence of Jehovah's servants that this prophecy would be fulfilled, The Watchtower of January 1, 1921, focused on it in connection with developments in the Middle East. Subsequently, in its December 15, 1929, issue, on page 374, The Watchtower definitively said: "The whole tendency of the League of Nations is to turn the people away from God and from Christ, and it is therefore a desolating thing, the product of Satan, and an abomination in the sight of God." So in 1919 "the disgusting thing" appeared. In time, the League gave way to the United Nations. Jehovah's Witnesses have long exposed these human peace organizations as disgusting in God's sight. 15 Revelation depicts "a scarlet-colored wild beast" that exists for a time, disappears, and then returns. (Revelation 17:3, This beast is supported by world rulers. Details supplied in the prophecy help us to identify this symbolic beast as a peace organization that came into existence in 1919 as the League of Nations (a "disgusting thing" and that is now the United Nations. Revelation 17:16, 17 shows that God will yet put it into the hearts of certain human rulers who are prominent in this "beast" to desolate the world empire of false religion. That attack marks the outbreak of the great tribulation. Kingdom Ministry December 1998 p.5 Theocratic Ministry School Review 9. Revelation 13:11-15 accurately portrays how the Anglo-American World Power became chief sponsor and life-giver both to the League of Nations and to its successor, the United Nations. [Weekly Bible reading; see w88 12/15 p. 19 par. 3.] True. Kingdom Ministry August 1994 pp.5-6 Theocratic Ministry School Review 20. What was "the disgusting thing that causes desolation" in the first century, and what is it today? (Matt. 24:15) [gt chap. 111] In 66 C.E., it was the Roman armies that surrounded Jerusalem; today it is the United Nations. Kingdom Ministry February 1976 p.1 Branch Letter Our brothers in Malawi and in Mozambique do not have all the printed aids that we do, but they continue to praise Jehovah. Even the vicious persecution that has come on them has resulted in the giving of a tremendous witness. (Phil. 1:12-14) We have at hand reports from all parts of the United States, besides Kenya, South Africa, Hong Kong, Malaysia, England, Canada and France, telling what is happening to our brothers in Malawi. Copies of the Awake! report on Malawi were furnished to representatives to the United Nations, to all U.S. congressman and senators. We know of over seventy radio stations that have carried the story. At least ten TV stations have featured it. Thus the world is hearing what is happening to Jehovah's people because they uphold God's kingdom. All of this contributes to the separating of people as foretold in Matthew 25:31-46. Kingdom Ministry September 1970 p.1 Branch Letter As we think back on the highlights of the program, we also remember the identification of the "disgusting thing" with the scarlet-colored beast of Revelation chapter 17, the United Nations. That is something that folks had been asking about ever since the assemblies last year. Watchtower 1991 June 1 p.19 Their Refuge—A Lie! [for the complete Watchtower article, with its detailed explanation of the United Nations standing together with Christendom against God's will, see next quote] 20 Christendom rested her hopes in the League of Nations, but it was overturned even without the coming of Armageddon. Now she has transferred her allegiance to the United Nations. But it will soon have to face "the war of the great day of God the Almighty," and it will not survive. (Revelation 16:14) Even a revived UN can never bring peace and security. God's prophetic Word shows that the United Nations organization with its member nations "will battle with the Lamb [Christ in Kingdom power], but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them."—Revelation 17:14. Watchtower 1991 June 1 pp.15-20 Their Refuge—A Lie! 6 Confident in their political alliances, Jerusalem's leaders were sure that no "overflowing flash flood" of invading armies would come near them to disturb their peace and security. When threatened by an alliance of Israel and Syria, Judah turned to Assyria for help. (2 Kings 16:5-9) Later, when menaced by the military forces of Babylon, she appealed to Egypt for support and Pharaoh responded, sending an army to help.—Jeremiah 37:5-8; Ezekiel 17:11-15. 7 But Babylon's armies were too powerful, and Egypt's troops had to withdraw. Jerusalem's placing confidence in Egypt proved to be a mistake, and in 607 B.C.E., Jehovah abandoned her to the destruction he had foretold. So Jerusalem's rulers and priests were wrong! Their trust in worldly alliances for peace and security was "a lie" that was swept away by the flash flood of Babylon's armies. After demonizing the UN: Watchtower Become a UN associate as an NGO member In 1991 the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of New York applied to the United Nations to become an NGO. In 1992 the Watchtower’s application was granted. As part of being a United Nation’s NGO the Watchtower agreed to a number of criteria that had to be met every year. On Joining in 1992 all NGO’s agreed with the below requirement ; The principal purpose of association of non-governmental organizations with the United Nations Department of Public Information is the re-dissemination of information in order to increase public understanding of the principles, activities and achievements of the United Nations and its Agencies. Consequently, it is important that you should keep us informed about your organization's information program as it relates to the United Nations, including sending us issues of your relevant publications. We are enclosing a brochure on the The United Nations and Non-Governmental Organizations, which will give you some information When news of the Watchtower’s involvement with the UN appeared in the Guardian (UK tabloid) the Watchtower requested that they disassociate themselves. When news reached the “rank and file” Jehovah’s Witnesses, they inundated theUN offices so much with inquiries that the UN were forced to post the following letter on their web site. Jehovah's Witnesses link to UN queried - Sect accused of hypocrisy over association with organisation it has demonised The United Nations is being asked to investigate why it has granted associate status to the Jehovah's Witnesses, the fundamentalist US-based Christian sect, which regards it as the scarlet beast predicted in the Book of Revelation. Disaffected members of the 6m-strong group, which has 130,000 followers in the UK, have accused the Witnesses' elderly governing body of hypocrisy in secretly accepting links with an organisation that they continue to denounce in apocalyptic terms. The UN itself admitted yesterday that it was surprised that the sect, whose formal name is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, had been accepted on its list of non-governmental organisations for the last 10 years. A former member said: "There is a glaring inconsistency which has emerged between the WTBTS's frequent portrayal of the UN as an evil organisation and its behind-the-scenes attempts to curry favour with that organisation. Were individual members to be aware of any formal link they would be devastated. "By no stretch of the imagination could the WTBTS be considered to share the ideals of the UN charter unless you suppose that destruction of the UN by God is consistent with that charter." The Witnesses, most frequently encountered by non-members when they attempt to make doorstep conversions, have faced accusations of bad faith before. These have been most notably over the hierarchy's insistence that members should not accept blood transfusions and over accusations that sexual abuse of children by Witnesses' ministers in the US have been covered up. Followers who criticise the Witnesses' leaders or question their decisions are routinely "disfellowshipped" which means fellow members including their families must shun them. An obscure and ill-publicised decision by the hierarchy in New York last year modifying the prohibition on transfusions by deeming that God had revealed to them that transfusions of some blood components might be acceptable, providing there was later repentance, has come too late for many hundreds of followers known to have died because they refused blood. In child abuse cases, the hierarchy insists there must be two independent witnesses - an almost impossible stipulation - before accusations are investigated. The Watchtower Society has been denouncing the UN and its predecessor the League of Nations for 80 years, believing them to be a world empire of false religion, predicted in the Book of Revelation. A recent publication since the organisation obtained its recognition describes the UN as "a disgusting thing in the sight of God and his people". In an internal document, the WTBTS describes its policy as a "theocratic war strategy". It claims: "In time of spiritual warfare it is proper to misdirect the enemy by hiding the truth. It is done unselfishly; it does not harm anyone; on the contrary it does much good." Being a recognised NGO with the United Nations - as more than 1,500 organisations are - gives status though not grants. To qualify, organisations must show that they share the ideals of the charter, operate on a non-profit basis, "demonstrate interest in UN issues and proven ability to reach large or specialised audiences" and have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes about UN activities. Disaffected Witnesses believe that the association, which has not been publicised to followers, is intended to increase the cult's respectability to sceptical governments, such as France's, which have refused to recognise it. Paul Gillies, the Witnesses' spokesman in Britain, said: "We do not have hostile attitudes to governing bodies and if we are making representations on issues to the UN we will do so." "There are good and bad bodies just as there are good and bad politicians. We believe what the Book of Revelation tells us but we do not actively try to change the political system." A spokeswoman for the UN said: "I think we may not be aware of their attitude, which seems to be really strange." https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/oct/08/religion.world Much like every other sanctimonious believe they pay lip-service to, JWs are also paying lip-service about neutrality in politics! 2 Likes
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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 9:25am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: First of all i don't owe my allegiance to any ORGANISATION Below is what your ORGANISATION have to say about themselves “Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ). 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 9:01am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse is really working hard to lay his hand on just about anything that can make him feel good Have you run out of LIES and misquoting of scriptures? Am sure as a CIA agent you can find better straws to cling on than this 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:34am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I don't have much to say except to refer you to your own watch tower “Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ). |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:29am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: No ONE can represent Jesus because he has not abdicated his position as head of the Church I may have been too hard on calling all clerics charlatans, but there are still good messengers of the goodnews today. I repeat, no one can REPRESENT who is always present except in kingdom halls where Jesus was given the back seat |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:10am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: The good news is that you don't get to be the judge of who is saved or condemned I am pitching my tent with Jesus, not to the ORGANISATION that made the declaration below “Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ). |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 7:50am On Jul 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Does this quote from your own watch tower look like a battle of words “Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ). I'm in no way restless, actually am having fun exposing your lies with your own watch tower publications 1 Like |
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