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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 1:25pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Splinz: |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 12:56pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Splinz: Own goal indeed The funny part is that no need for too much stress arguing with JWs because they made the work so simple Their publications argue for and against themselves 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 12:25pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Whether Jesus is God or not doesn't matter as long as we all agree he is the SAVIOUR of mankind from eternal damnation. But if anyone is going to argue it they better do it right without speaking from both sides of their mouth like watch-tower did below: Is Jesus supposed to be worshipped or not? Yes, Jesus is supposed to be worshipped: “Question : The fact that our Lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was God the Father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man. Was he really worshiped, or is the translation faulty? Answer: Yes, we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so . . . It was proper for our Lord to receive worship in view of his having been the only begotten of the Father, and his agent in the creation of all things, including man,” (Watchtower, July 15, 1898, p. 216). “For example, to which one of the angels did he ever say: ‘You are my Son; today I have become your Father’? And again: ‘I shall be a Father to him, and he will be a Son to me’? But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: ‘And let all God’s angels worship him,'” (New Heavens and a New Earth, 1953, p. 27-28). No, Jesus is not supposed to be worshipped: “He taught men, not to worship him, but to worship Jehovah his Father . . . ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God,'” (Make Sure of All Things, p. 283). “What I learned was so different from what I had heard at the “Christian” school I had attended. Jehovah’s Witnesses do not worship Jesus. Rather, they worship Almighty God, the One that Jesus himself worshipped,” (Awake, Dec. 22, 1987, p. 22). |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 12:18pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Whether Jesus is God or not doesn't matter as long as we all agree he is the SAVIOUR of mankind from eternal damnation. But if anyone is going to argue it they better do it right without speaking from both sides of their mouth like watch-tower did below: Is Jesus supposed to be worshipped or not? Yes, Jesus is supposed to be worshipped: “Question : The fact that our Lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was God the Father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man. Was he really worshiped, or is the translation faulty? Answer: Yes, we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so . . . It was proper for our Lord to receive worship in view of his having been the only begotten of the Father, and his agent in the creation of all things, including man,” (Watchtower, July 15, 1898, p. 216). “For example, to which one of the angels did he ever say: ‘You are my Son; today I have become your Father’? And again: ‘I shall be a Father to him, and he will be a Son to me’? But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: ‘And let all God’s angels worship him,'” (New Heavens and a New Earth, 1953, p. 27-28). No, Jesus is not supposed to be worshipped: “He taught men, not to worship him, but to worship Jehovah his Father . . . ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God,'” (Make Sure of All Things, p. 283). “What I learned was so different from what I had heard at the “Christian” school I had attended. Jehovah’s Witnesses do not worship Jesus. Rather, they worship Almighty God, the One that Jesus himself worshipped,” (Awake, Dec. 22, 1987, p. 22). |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 12:06pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Yeap, also you found one and only group that can interpret the Bible Watchtower claims to be the only organization to find scriptural guidance yet condemns the Vatican for doing the same thing. Watchtower is the only organization able to interpret the Bible: “We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the ‘faithful and discreet slave’ organization,'” (Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981) The Vatican is the only organization able to interpret the Bible: “The Vatican belittles Bible study by claiming it is the only organization authorized and qualified to interpret the Bible,” (Watchtower, July 1, 1943, p. 201). |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 10:41am On Jul 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Yeap, seriously like a religion who speaks from both sides of the mouth below: Watchtower claims to be the only organization to find scriptural guidance yet condemns the Vatican for doing the same thing. Watchtower is the only organization able to interpret the Bible: “We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the ‘faithful and discreet slave’ organization,'” (Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981) The Vatican is the only organization able to interpret the Bible: “The Vatican belittles Bible study by claiming it is the only organization authorized and qualified to interpret the Bible,” (Watchtower, July 1, 1943, p. 201). |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 10:11am On Jul 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Is that why you spoke in tongues? Who told you am faithless religionist? I am a Christian who believes in Jesus so your illustration doesn't relate at all just like watch tower always misfiring to cover up more lies. Nice try but you've got to try harder than this |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 9:18am On Jul 20, 2021 |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:52am On Jul 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Watchtower claims to be the only organization to find scriptural guidance yet condemns the Vatican for doing the same thing. Watchtower is the only organization able to interpret the Bible: “We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the ‘faithful and discreet slave’ organization,'” (Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981) The Vatican is the only organization able to interpret the Bible: “The Vatican belittles Bible study by claiming it is the only organization authorized and qualified to interpret the Bible,” (Watchtower, July 1, 1943, p. 201). To be continued..... |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:20am On Jul 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You mean to say watch-tower lying machine vindicated you? Watchtower claims to be the only organization to find scriptural guidance yet condemns the Vatican for doing the same thing. Watchtower is the only organization able to interpret the Bible: “We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the ‘faithful and discreet slave’ organization,'” (Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981) The Vatican is the only organization able to interpret the Bible: “The Vatican belittles Bible study by claiming it is the only organization authorized and qualified to interpret the Bible,” (Watchtower, July 1, 1943, p. 201). |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:06am On Jul 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I just published your evidence and you got confused again |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 7:49am On Jul 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Here's the next topic Mr publish evidence Watchtower claims to be the only organization to find scriptural guidance yet condemns the Vatican for doing the same thing. Watchtower is the only organization able to interpret the Bible: “We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the ‘faithful and discreet slave’ organization,'” (Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981). The Vatican is the only organization able to interpret the Bible: “The Vatican belittles Bible study by claiming it is the only organization authorized and qualified to interpret the Bible,” (Watchtower, July 1, 1943, p. 201). Let's discuss this house |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 6:36am On Jul 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Here we go again with publish evidence Don't worry the evidence will soon be published |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:58pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You are not quoting bible, you are reading from watchtower or is watchtower equal to Bible now? |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:30pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Spiritual poison kills Spiritually, you maybe walking but you are dead in the spirit. |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:01pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I see a pattern here: When there's no more lies to cover up a previous lie MaxInDHouse and other JWs will blame it on errors made by imperfect humans At thesame time they claim watchtower is the only channel of spiritual food for God’s people. Who now prepares the poisoned food? |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 7:24pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
JWs shoots themselves in the leg here “Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ). 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 7:11pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I nolonger need your answers to my posts since you have never answered any! From now on am just going to focus on contradictory statements from your watch-tower publications |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 7:04pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Another Watch-tower contradiction! Who is the Faithful and Discreet Slave, the Watchtower Organization, or Charles Taze Russell? Claim one: Watchtower Organization is Faithful and Discreet Slave: “Jesus foretold that among his people there would be a “faithful and discreet slave” class who would be providing the spiritual food to God’s family of devoted servants on earth, acting as his channel of communication and overseeing the carrying out of the Kingdom interests worldwide. (Matt. 24:45-47) These anointed overseers serve as though being guided in their activities by the right hand of Christ,” (Watchtower, Jan. 15, 1969, p. 51). Claim two: Russell is Faithful and Discreet Slave: “Thousands of the readers of Pastor Russell’s writings believe that he filled the office of ‘that faithful and wise servant,’ and that his great work was giving to the household of faith meat in due season. His modesty and humility precluded him from openly claiming this title, but he admitted as much in private conversation,” (Watchtower, Dec. 1, 1916, p. 357). Claim 3 presented outright denial of Claim two: Watchtower Denies Russell ever claimed to be Faithful and Discreet Slave: “From this, it is clearly seen that the editor and publisher of Zion’s Watch Tower disavowed any claim to being individual, in his person, that “faithful and wise servant.” He never did claim to be such,” (God’s Kingdom of a Thousand Years has Approached, 1973, p. 346). How can any sane human put his or her salvation into the hands of ORGANISATION that lies so brazenly and repeatedly? 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 6:43pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Why do I need a GROUP when i can go down on my knees in prayer to My God and savior Jesus Christ! I believe that Jesus died for my sins and through faith in the ransom sacrifice i am saved. What else does it require? Imagine JWs as-is is the only way to salvation it will be like asking me to climb the great wall when its obviously impossible to accomplish. instead of derailing why not straighten this extract from watch-tower spiritual meal: "The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327 "The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers." Awake! 1993 Mar 22 p.4 It must be tough giving up your own salvation in the hands of men who speaks from both sides of the mouth |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 6:09pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Elder Max that's not the next question, the last time i checked you have not been able to reconcile the extract below from watch-tower spiritual meal: "The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327 "The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers." Awake! 1993 Mar 22 p.4 After you reconcile this two contradictory statement we can move on to the next. This is not your kingdom hall where only Watch-tower asks all the questions and provide desired answer next to it and someone just raises hand and recite it |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 6:01pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Answer the question and stop dodging The two contradicting statement is it not made by Watch-tower or can you point us to where Jesus made contradictory statement in the bible? I actually like how you defend obvious lies because it makes it easier for silent observers to know you by your fruits 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 3:08pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Nice try I guess Jesus and apostles also set up a crowd funding website like donate.jw.org When JWs are caught up in one of their many lies they default to victims of percecution But most of their time is spent on delivering "vials of judgement" on Christendom |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 2:24pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 2:06pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: Watchtower Speaking from both sides of the mouth as always but MaxInDHouse will soon come and ask you to publish evidence 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 2:04pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 10:08am On Jul 19, 2021 |
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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 10:05am On Jul 19, 2021 |
DappaD: Look who's talking about freedom of worship, another hypocritical talk as usual! which Christian sect devote all their time in condemning others and even go as far as calling them apostates and mentally ill persons? JWs are the most intolerant Christian sect, they don't pray with other christians, call them Harlots, they can go to peoples house and preach but will never open their doors for others, etc If Watchtower governing body have the kind of power the Pope wields, they would probably shut other churches down by now! Now GB have set up donate.jw.org to collect money and it has become difficult to come up with a defense seeing that they have spent all their time in the past condemning other churches for collecting money from members... |
Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:27pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
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Religion / Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 3:48pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
OkCornel: For where! They dodged and dodged But I will keep asking |
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