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Pootle:
lie about what exactly, about who i was or what?? is being a street boy something to be proud of i drop you a mail and i want to invite you to my area here in lagos

My guy real street boys are smarter than you think. Someone like the Deeperlife man can't deceive them.

Pootle:
shut up, i be confirm street boy, but na there i dey worship na hypocrites you find go abi you go hear sermon. my wife attend elsewhere and brothers and sister same na only me wey be supposed bad boy of the house still go there you know why that the only place the truth is said. person wey dey preach to you fit condemn pass you but me no go to judge them me go to go hear from my MAKER that the place that i go to take off the the extra edge off my life

The highlighted is a lie!

immortalcrown:
Show that you practice true Christianity by explaining two things:
1.the difference philanthropy and pure worship,

Philanthropy is generosity unspecified while pure worship is what God requires from His worshipers.
The later benefits mankind in general while philanthropy is Satan's gimmick to blindfold mankind to welcome slavery.
In God's Kingdom when everything is shared equally there is no need for any philanthropist.

immortalcrown:
2.how a Church building is the only place where the pure worship can take place.

Call it "church building" but according to God's word any form of worship that's not done in accordance with God's will is IDOLATRY.
That is why you complains though you want to be called "Christians" yet your preferred religious leaders keep on disappointing you people!😟

immortalcrown:
Either you did not read the post or you read it but failed to understand it. I love God and support God's work. But once it turns to a minister making prayer of blessings for only those that donate money, I will not donate my money to or through such a minister.

No human being that truly understands what it means to worship God will pray for only those that donate money on a church altar. Who told you that donating for God's work must only happen in the church? What about those who support God's work outside the church but no longer have enough to come and donate again on the altar? Also, what about making the same prayer for those who did not donate so that they will make money and donate next time? As a matter of fact, those who have donated did not even make the money through such prayers.

There is a difference between being a philanthropists {1Corinthans 13:3} and recognizing pure worship! Mark 12:30


If your religion doesn't make things clear regarding contributions in God's house it simply means you aren't practicing true Christianity because in the truth such can't happen anymore!

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

You were never humble because if you are you wouldn't leave Islam for nothing.

For you to have left Islam for no other gathering of worshipers means you were never humble, humble people always love to be in the midst of fellow adherents of the same rules it's rebels that doesn't want such rather they want to set their own standards and force people to bow that's why we have many rebel groups in the world today!

In the first century Judaism is the religion John the baptist met in Israel but what message does this great prophet have for the religious leaders of Judaism of the first century?

“You offspring of vipers, who has warned you to flee from the coming wrath? Therefore, produce fruit that befits repentance. Do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children for Abraham from these stones. The ax is already lying at the root of the trees. Every tree, then, that does not produce fine fruit is to be cut down and thrown into the fire. I, for my part, baptize you with water because of your repentance, but the one coming after me is stronger than I am, whose sandals I am not worthy to take off. That one will baptize you with holy spirit and with fire. His winnowing shovel is in his hand, and he will clean up his threshing floor completely and will gather his wheat into the storehouse, but the chaff he will burn up with fire that cannot be put out.” Matthew 3:7-12

If the religious leaders in Judaism are not worthy before God surely Judaism is no longer acceptable because the leaders will render it unfruitful! Matthew 3:10

Jesus of Nazareth also grew as a Judaist he tried to correct the wrong beliefs of their religious leaders but met fierce opposition so he started gathering his own group to replace Judaism.

His mother and brothers thought Jesus has lost his senses because he doesn't think in line with what he was taught as a child rather he is teaching something totally new. So when his mother and brothers came looking for him someone said to Jesus:
“Look! Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak to you.” Matthew 12:47

What was Jesus' reply?

“Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and my mother" Matthew 12:48-50

Certainly Jesus has turned his back on Judaism and whoever continues in that religion, and he has gathered another group of worshipers to replace Judaists that's why he said regarding anyone still practicing that religion:

“Keep following me, and let the dead bury their dead.” Matthew 8:22

After Jesus has gathered another group of worshipers whoever remains in Judaism is as good as a walking corpse in God's sight no wonder Jesus made it clear that his real families are people who are now doing the will of God that he is teaching! Matthew 12:48-50


So have you abandoned your former religion?
Have you found a better replacement for the one you left?

If Jesus set up a replacement for Judaism surely whoever leaves his religion is not wrong but when you fail to get a better performing group then you don't belong to Jesus!🙂

Try to delete politics in your mind that's the reason you hate people without any justification and seeking reasons to justify it!

Whoever fails to present another group as a replacement for his former religion but keep on spreading bad reports about his former religion is no longer a worshiper of the true God that's exactly what all apostates does right from the beginning till now!

There is this misconception about what is real faith but before we continue with this discussion let's see the scriptural definition of faith:

Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

There is another word that people don't know its meaning but misconstrued for faith that word is credulity.

A willingness to believe in someone or something in the absence of reasonable proof. Oxford Dictionary

So what is the difference between these two words and why do most people misconstrued the both?🤔

Let's first consider credulity and its real meaning. Credulity doesn't need any reasonable proof so someone having it can't convince another regarding what he has therefore the one having credulity can only infuse the idea into others forcefully either through the use of weapons or threat based on fairytales.

But what about faith?

Since faith has been defined as (assured expectation of what is hoped for and evident demonstration of realities) surely faith comes with PROOF as we can see demonstrations as evidence of what we hope to get!

So what are the things we hope to get and what are the demonstrations that's serving as reality of the things we haven't seen?

To be continued....

JimRohn:
You’re only embarrassing yourself with contradictions. First you said Balaam isn’t a prophet because he sinned, yet the Bible itself records: ‘The Spirit of God came upon him, and he uttered the oracle of Balaam… who hears the words of God, who sees the vision of the Almighty’ (Numbers 24:2–4). That is prophetic formula, word-for-word. You can scream ‘bribe’ a thousand times, it won’t erase the text. If God’s Spirit rested on him and he delivered God’s words, he was a prophet — whether you like it or not. The only way you escape this is by rejecting your own Scripture, which is exactly what you’re doing.

Dragging Matthew 12:31 into this only shows desperation. That verse is about blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, not bribery. David committed adultery by the Spirit’s law, Solomon bowed to idols against the Spirit’s command, yet you keep their titles intact. But when it comes to Balaam — suddenly you invent a special category of ‘unforgivable.’ That’s not exegesis, that’s hypocrisy.

As for your childish obsession with me writing ﷺ after Prophet Muhammad’s name — your mockery only exposes your insecurity. Muslims honor all prophets without distinction (Qur’an 2:285). Whether or not I type out the Arabic formula each time doesn’t erase that fact. Unlike you, we don’t dishonor or ridicule prophets of God. And calling Muhammad ﷺ ‘an Arabian guy’ only proves your tribalism, not mine. You pretend to respect Moses and Jesus, yet laugh at the final prophet foretold in your own book (Deut. 18:18). That’s not faith — that’s prejudice.

And stop playing games about the Trinity. First you claim you don’t believe it because it’s not in the Bible. Then you admit you’re a Jehovah’s Witness, whose theology is rejected by the majority of Christianity. So even your fellow Christians don’t take you seriously. You’ve already undermined your own credibility — I don’t even need to do it for you.

📌 Bottom line: Balaam destroys your Israel-only excuse. Muhammad ﷺ destroys your man-made doctrines. And your weak mockery about ‘that funny thing’ only shows you’ve run out of arguments. Keep laughing, because laughter is all you’ve got left when the text has exposed you.

It's obvious you can't answer that simple question but i will leave you with it perhaps your conscience will help you to know why i told you earlier to close the chapter.

Here is the question again:
If truly you believe that all prophets of God needs to be revered why haven't you been adding that thing at the mention of biblical prophets as you were doing for your muhammad?

Steep:
MaxD come and see your fellow trinity denial saying that God has commanded everyone to worship Jesus. Do you agree?

He is not my BROTHER in faith so continue the argument with your fellow worshiper whoever is not one of Jehovah's Witnesses has nothing to say about our own God that's why i keep asking any of you to first mention the name of his or her church before i engage you if you can't do that then you are all on the same page to me!

Steep:
The only difference between grok and the doctrine of the trinity is that God is not just acting as three persons but he IS three persons.

Steep:
Moses was merely representing God to Pharaoh.

This is really getting funnier than i thought!
Moses was addressing the Israelites not Pharaoh in that verse:

“Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah" Deuteronomy 6:4

But if you can't grasp that did Jesus also forgot to tell his followers that God is three persons?

God1000:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uie1ofHYJbo
Pope Leo Urges End To Terror, Destruction And Death In Gaza

War is the result of politics so no religious leader whose members are into politics has what it takes to convince war mungers to stop killing themselves. Revelations 6:3-4
According to the Bible Isaiah and Micah prophesied that in the last days worshipers of the true God will form one global family of peace loving worshipers and they will no longer participate in wars. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
That is what Jesus taught his disciples {Matthew 26:52} he warned his disciples never to participate in worldly affairs which must get them involved with politics {John 17:14-16} so true believers in Jesus don't participate in politics neither do they learn wars but Catholics do participate in politics and wars if Popes can't control their own Catholic members how can they call off wars?

You still don't get it.

I didn't say God didn't send His prophets to other peoples but after the Israelites settled down in the promised land as descendants of Jacob God never called any prophet from another nation.

Just mention another prophet after Israelites settled in the land of Canaan because that is what God promised the descendants of Jacob:

"Now if you will strictly obey my voice and keep my covenant, you will certainly become my special property out of all peoples, for the whole earth belongs to me. You will become to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words that you are to say to the Israelites.” Exodus 19:5

From that very moment no prophet was raised from any other nation except Israel. So that guy from Saudi Arabia is fake!

JimRohn:
Your claim is incorrect — the Bible itself records prophets and God-sent messages to non-Israelite peoples after Abraham. Saying God only called prophets from Jacob’s line ignores plain Scripture. Here’s the proof, succinct and clear:

1. Jonah was sent to Nineveh (Assyria).
God commanded Jonah to warn a major Gentile city; the people repented and were spared. (Jonah 3:1–5). That is an explicit, post-Abraham instance of a prophet sent outside Israel.

2. Elijah ministered to a non-Israelite widow in Zarephath (Sidon).
God sent Elijah to provide for and raise the widow’s son (1 Kings 17:8–24). Jesus cites this event to show prophets were sent beyond Israel (Luke 4:25–27).

3. Elisha’s miracle for Naaman the Aramean.
A foreign commander received cleansing and healing through Israel’s prophet (2 Kings 5). God used an Israelite prophet to bless a Gentile — again, not confined to Israel.

4. Balaam — a non-Israelite who spoke by God’s revelation.
Balaam (a Gentile diviner) was addressed and constrained by God, and he delivered God’s message (Numbers 22–24). This demonstrates God can speak through and to non-Israelite figures.

5. New Testament confirmation — God shows no partiality.
Peter’s vision and Cornelius’ conversion demonstrate God accepts worshippers from every nation (Acts 10:34–35). The early Church recognized the prophetic work reaching Gentiles.

6. The prophetic purpose was always universal.
God chose Abraham so “all peoples on earth will be blessed through you” (Genesis 12:3). Isaiah likewise speaks of a light to the nations (Isaiah 49:6). The biblical storyline points beyond one tribe.

Conclusion (clear and simple):
Your rule — “after Abraham no prophet was called outside Israel” — is contradicted by multiple biblical examples. If Scripture itself shows God sending messengers to non-Israelite peoples, then the idea that God’s revelation is limited by ethnicity is unsustainable. God’s mercy and guidance repeatedly cross national and ethnic boundaries in the Bible — which is precisely the pattern that Muhammad ﷺ follows as a prophet summoned to bring people back to the One God.

I'm still wondering what exactly are the rules of banning posts now on Nairaland.
Here is the post just banned.

sonmvayina:
The breath that God breath to man that is the same image and likeness as God is called?

You try jàre!

DoctorStanley:
So you don't believe one who can restore life with mere words can also take away life with mere words? Cherub doesn't mean warriors neither is their job fighting wars. Do you think the rapture will be carried out by an army? It will occur at the words of Christ, so also will the dead rise. No armies needed!

So you think it's just about talking that will raise the dead?
Ọmọ angels will be around taking orders from Jesus.

AngelahFlo:
If that's your opinion, I'll only try to make it plain to you but I'll just let you know this. The people who'll rule with Jesus in the millemial reign will be saints and that your group and others who qualify to reign with Jesus when that time comes. Thanks for your time and be at peace.

No single none Jehovah's Witnesses can go to heaven if you care to understand i will be willing to explain but if not i'm OK!

Julia25:
So according to you, God made the first born then the "first born" made the rest? Is this right? ⁽¹⁾ The scripture is clear, Jesus, the word of God, made all things so, is he still a creature? ⁽²⁾ According to you.

Is the firstborn of your family your father or he was born like the rest of his siblings?

That word FIRSTBORN says it all!

Julia25:
We don't know how Jesus had two natures, Divine and temporal, at the same time but we do know he exhibited both.

Jesus doesn't have two natures he is a perfect son of God who always does what pleases his father {John 8:29} so whatever he asks is granted immediately, if Adam did not rebel against his father the same will be the case with him.
God promised us the same thing when we finally become perfect and always doing His will whatever we ask will be granted instantly just as Jesus is having it:

Even before they call out, I will answer; While they are yet speaking, I will hear. Isaiah 65:24

We are supposed to enjoy the same kind of blessing if we are not born sinners! Romans 3:23

So Jesus was an angel in heaven before God transformed him into an embryo in Mary's womb therefore when he was on earth he is 100% human! 1John 4:2

Julia25:
Now, apply this logic to the phrase "firstborn of creation" given other biblical verses that suggest his primordial nature .
If you didn't expatiate like this, providing "context", then anyone can use what I said as a rebuttal. Now add the necessary context taking other biblical verses about him into account—Jesus.

Remember that God's word was written to mankind like a letter.

So each word carried similar meaning to what is peculiar to humans.

The word "FIRSTBORN" means one of the children but specifically the first child. So if all creations is from God's making then the firstborn of all creations is also from God's making!

Please be specific with your questions!

Julia25:
Christ is the Head of all principalities.

This was his position as the archangel but after the rebellion in heaven he is no longer in control of all the angels that's why he later fought against Satan who is in control of rebellious angels! Revelations 12:7

I'm different from your friends here so if you want to discuss with me you have to pick the points one after another not putting everything together and expecting a straightforward response.

All of them knows me very well!

So what is your next question?

It's not easy to identify an apostate or a group of apostates.

Regarding apostates Jesus said:

“Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men" Matthew 7:15-20

This means that Jesus as the sower of fine seeds {Matthew 13:37} planet what will yield good fruit so if those claiming his followers are still connected to him they will unitedly produce fine fruit because they are all branches attached to one tree but if they are apostates it means they are not connected to the good tree therefore they can't produce the good fruit! John 15:4-6

The next thing you need to know is what is the FRUIT that true Christianity should produce?

Remember it's not an individual thing otherwise that would make an Atheist, Agnostic, Buddhist, Hindu, Traditionalist, Muslim and Freethinker can also produce it because there are nice people in all these schools of thought.

The FRUIT must be produced by a group having the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10; 1Peter 3:8} as imperfect humans with sinful traits they unitedly produced this fine fruit because Jesus is directing them! Matthew 18:20

Julia25:
what about the spirit of God? is he also a creature?
Jesus is the "first of all creatures" as in preeminence, i can also say that Jesus is the head of all principalities and then according to your logic conclude that He is the one dishing orders for Devil and Cos to be doing evil . Do you see how misleading this is?

This is the problem with false religionists!
Instead of asking what i meant you started putting your own meaning into my post and accusing me at the same time!
Ọmọ what i mean is that Jesus is the first son as in creature God made so he as the first born knew a lot about our heavenly Father than anyone else.
And as regards being the commander of all the angels that's what orderliness means but Satan and his likes decided to rebel against God's arrangement that's why they formed their own group and Satan became their leader!

There is contradictions everywhere and no two churches fully agree on this your Trinity stuff that's why you are ashamed of mentioning the name of your church because you know there is nothing like understanding among those claiming born again.

WapMinistry:
STOP CLAIMING SUPERIORITY of your Church Denomination / Teachings over Other Church Denominations / Teachings.
The General Overseer (Presiding Minister) of your church denomination / teachings was once a member of another church denomination / teachings that groomed him or her in Christianity!!!

The truth is that what i said is practiced in my own place of worship among Jehovah's Witnesses that's why i could expatiate because i fully understood how to apply Jesus' teachings regarding worldly riches since that's what we believe and practice in my religion!

Fiscus105:
As I said, give your Bible to someone who knows how to read and interpret correctly, here is extended version of the message, I extended it backward a little and not in full, if you ready to learn, you can marry the verses 16A (wen the 3 men) to verse 20A ( the Lord says).

The meaning, Adeboye would be talking to his congregants, and he would say, THE LORD SAYS..............


Meanwhile, even if it's like that, Bible often written in "ANTHROPORMISM." That's, in a way for humans being to understand better, it was written as if, God behaving like humans, just for us to have deep understanding, and that's not how it's in reality.

You haven't quote where the Bible said it's an angel that's speaking in those verses!

MindHacker9009:
The Most High has said: “I will put My Torah within them and on their heart I will write it” (Jeremiah 31:33).

The Torah books we have today is the corrupted Torah written by men and not the Original Torah. Only the Torah The Most High have put within us and written on our heart is The Original Torah .

OK i'm waiting for this god to write what you are talking about in the hearts of people as you wish!

RevenuesBoost:
God Bless you too 🙏

The Jews till today respect and abide by the law of Moses (Judaism) and saw Jesus as a blasphemer, they said he spoke against the law of Moses and deserved a death penalty.
That's why they ganged up to crucify him.

This Birthed Christianity.

The Jewish nation is political from time immemorial but the true God is not political that's how they lost the glory! Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

PCHC:
This is not just my opinion, but the wisdom of God: — You should seek and identify God's Voice and Spirit more than you should identify them by their fruits.

Guy there is a FRUIT God's Organization should produce.
This fruit has nine qualities: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

No imperfect human can have all these qualities but when talking about the gathering of imperfect humans where God's Holy Spirit is in control imperfect humans will exhibit these qualities as one group! John 17:22

Ọmọ you never know anything but since you feel you know i will leave you alone if you want me to go!

Jesus taught his disciples never to raise weapons against anyone! Matthew 26:52

Jesus said his disciples must have love among themselves. John 13:34-35

Jesus prayed for his disciples to have the same line of thought! John 17:22

Can you please mention any church that has all these apart from Jehovah's Witnesses?

PCHC:
The recovering of the Church is not the interpretation of the Bible reference you made of Revelation 11:7-10.

The Lord Jesus did not return in year 1914. Charles Russell was a liar and a false prophet.

Neither God nor the Lord Jesus founded the organisation of Taze Charles Russell, known as Jehovah's Witnesses. The Lord Jesus is not coming to find or be part of one group or denomination: rather He is coming or returning to take over all, including taking over all the churches and taking over all the world and taking over all kingdoms.

The returning of the Lord Jesus Christ will not be as an "Invisible King" or "Invisible Entity" you were falsely taught. Rather all eyes shall see Him when He returns, including the eyes of those that pierced Him. So, cease from this errors of He had returned as Invisible King in 1914.

Yes, the Lord Jesus is with us as the Spirit of God and Invisible God with us. But the return or coming of the Lord is Physical or Visible, just as His ascension on Mount Olives was Visible and Physical with Flesh.

The second Coming or Return of the Lord Jesus Christ would not be needing "Witnesses" to spread Him as "Eyewitnesses" or "Jehovah's Witnesses." The fact you call yourselves "Witnesses" or "Jehovah's witnesses" while testifying that the Lord Jesus has returned, shows you people are false witnesses.

If He truly returned or came, then all witnesses announcing He returned are false because He will come as the Sun rises and be seen by all. If you alone saw the sun rise, but witnessing to me that the sun has risen while I cannot see the sun with my seeing eyes, the fact you have to suffer to witness or convince people that sun has risen shows you are false or ignorant, because everyone by default would see the sun or light of the sun if it rose.

The Lord Jesus puts it this way, warning against witnesses announcing His has returned:

[Matthew 24:23-27] — "At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive even the elect, if that were possible. See, I have told you in advance. So if they tell you, ‘There He is, in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or, ‘Here He is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man."

PCHC:
There was no age or era after the Lord Jesus Christ that true Christianity lost shape or died. Even though the number or population of the true Christians became fewer in some of these ages, true Christians were never lacked in any of the ages. Christians are the Salt of the Earth or Ages since then.

Yes, there were era when persecution and killing of Christians trended most, but yet Christians also thrived in those ages.

Wrong to credit the freedom of expression of Christianity to America or American Declaration. True Freedom and Liberty are from the LORD God and His Spirit in all ages, irrespective of state persecutions. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty and there is Utterances (freedom of speech). It is not American Declaration, but the Declaration (Utterance) and Presence of the Spirit of the Lord.

Please interpret what Jesus meant in this verses:

When they have finished their witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will wage war with them and conquer them and kill them. And their corpses will be on the main street of the great city that is in a spiritual sense called Sodʹom and Egypt, where their Lord was also executed on the stake. And those of the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations will look at their corpses for three and a half days, and they do not allow their corpses to be laid in a tomb. And those dwelling on the earth rejoice over them and celebrate, and they will send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those dwelling on the earth. Revelation 11:7-10