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Courz:
You were redefining the word Bible to mean something that was compiled by Humans which results in Errors and so therefore Bible is not inspired of God. You said this was why you JWs created your own separate Bible to correct those errors and this is why the New World Translation is not called a Bible. And because it is not called a Bible, the Russian government came after you JWs. Anyone reading that screenshot will see what you said. Can you confidently make this statement to your fellow JWs in a talk in your Kingdom Hall?

If the Bible (translation of inspired writings) is without an error then why do you have so many versions?
Why can't all so called Christians agree on one version of the Bible?
Well if you must know this is why JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have to translate their own and called it New World Translation Of The Holy Scriptures!

Courz:
Can you confidently say this in a Talk in your Kingdom hall? Is this what the Faithful and Discreet Slave taught you?

You only need to be sincere to yourself the faithful and discreet slave released a publication that says there are 50,000 errors found in the Bible.
That's what the Muslim guy was pointing out so i have to explain to him the difference between the Bible (compiled translated books from the inspired writings) and the inspired writings which came directly from God.

The errors are as a result of translations not the inspired writings.

Hope you understand better now!🙂

Courz:
Wow! You mean MaxinDhouse made this statement boldly in a public forum as a so called Jehovah's Witness? Wonders shall never end. No wonder his fellow JWS have abandoned him. So, he said the Bible has many errors and it is not inspired by God which made his JW Leaders write their own separate Bible that they twisted, removed and added words in it as they see fit?

I refused to respond to that Churchgoer but to you i will respond.

The Bible is compilation of inspired writings but which has been TRANSLATED by so many people from different schools of thought that is where the ERRORS come from not the inspired writers.

Do you understand now?🙂

ritzyvic1:
You have derailed your own thread by continuing to quote that Jehovah witness dude. You can't reason with those types.
They turn the Bible upside down and refuse to be logical for once.
Stop arguing with him, it wouldn't work

Continue your reasoning while you turn into your neighbor's killer out of fury because of politics.
We know we've done all we could to save you people from Satan who wants you people to exterminate yourselves! Revelations 6:3-4 🙂

lawani:
If a whole country convert to JW sincerely and then they are invaded, will they surrender? JW people are not realistic at all. The early Christians were exactly like them and they later become monsters. JW will be the same under the same circumstances

We cannot and must not form a country because we were given the assignment to go preaching and teaching neighbors what we believe so we can't stay alone in a place without doing what Jesus commanded us:

Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Matthew 28:19-20

So we can never ever form a country.

Do you understand now?

Meedon:
He is powerless that is why he resort to killing.

What power other than exterminating those who are of no good use?🙂

You that's been running away from me since day one now says you want to do something shey?
Well the Bible calls Jesus is a morning star just as Satan and other angels and also said they are all sons of God. Revelations 22:16; Job 38:7

Meanwhile all sons of God are Gods in heaven! Psalms 82:1, 6

So if you believe in the Bible take it but if you don't leave it that's what the Bible teaches!🙂

blueAgent:
Keep deceiving.
I owe it as an obligation to God, to expose false teachings and teachers like you.

blueAgent:
To expose your lies.
Does it mean you have no confidence to refute the points I listed?

blueAgent:
See them , Jubilating in ignorance.
Jesus is an Angel, that is also called GOD?

chimex38:
We can agree to disagree ✌

That's not what Jesus taught us it's either YES or NO.
So is there any verse in the Bible where people pray to God through another name apart from Jesus?

You can either choose YES or NO!

Trying to manipulate matters after seeing things clearly comes from Satan! Matthew 5:37

AntiChristian:
Crass experience and negative wisdom!
When we ask about "6" you'll be talking about "6" upside down!

WISDOM teaches that you have to remove the rafter in your eye before thinking of how to remove the straw in the eye of your neighbor! Matthew 7:3-5

So think about how the peace your people always claim when they keep greeting "Salam" can reign in your own religion first before you can talk of helping those on the other side!🙂

Expanse2020:
Show me in the bible where they said Elijah died
Enoch died tooo..
That they affirm it as Moses died... Don't used a quote that you misinterpreted for yourself

This is simple only for true believers in Christ!🙂

[quote author=fortunez1 post=136966321][/quote]You get time walahi talahi.

Courz just feel like sending wrong signals to the public about JWs but only gullible people welcomes such lies sincere and honest hearted people will make sure of all things and stick to what is GOOD! Thessalonians 5:21

OK you can't bear the hard truth anymore so you have to block me shey?

Wahala Yaaaso!

kingxsamz:
They're wasting your feIIow Christians in Nigeria, and this one is clutching his pearls over a racist getting shot at in another country.

Terrorists are killing people who failed to know what the terrorists want.

True Christians don't disturb passersby with noise, don't use loud speakers to create public nuisance, don't condemn people for not joining them but speak one on one consolingly to depressed souls.
Those people killed are misinformed churchgoers looking for gullible followers to come and enrich their pastors!

safarifarms:
Would you want to shed more light on the several failed end of world/gathering predictions of the Jehovah's witnesses before criticising Kumuyi?

John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and first century disciples of Christ all said:

“Repent, for the Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.” Mathew 3:2; Matthew 4:17; Matthew 10:7

So if anyone attached dates to when they were saying these things how long are we still to wait before the kingdom come since John the baptist, Jesus Christ and first century Christians carried this message some 2,000 years ago?

Instead of humbly learning to know what happened you people just open your mouth to say things you don't understand.

For your information whoever says JWs are false prophets for preaching about God's Kingdom should first question John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and first century Christians because that's what they said over 2,000 years ago and the kingdom is yet to come!🤔

Nicenancy:
What is that good news you have been waiting for? What is that game changer on your mind?

This people are amused not that they heard a GOOD NEWS.
The Good News will make tears of joy roll down the eyes of anyone hearing it and they will feel like the one bringing it shouldn't leave them!

Few days ago all of you were scared to talk but now you've gotten the liver shey?🙂

Psalmcomng:
The early church was indeed centered on discipleship, service, and spreading the gospel.

Their focus was not wealth or status but simply following Christ and helping others know Him.

When greed enters leadership, it naturally produces followers who reflect that same value.

Jesus already warned us that by their fruits we shall know them. This is why so many people today feel disappointed when they see churches that no longer resemble the Acts model.

But at the same time, it is important to remember that the church is not a building or a title but the people who sincerely follow Christ.

Even in the midst of excesses and abuses, God still has a remnant who are living in obedience and love.

So maybe the solution is not to dismiss all churches but to return to true discipleship, where leaders model humility and members focus on spiritual growth instead of material gain.

If the foundation returns to Christ, the fruits will naturally change.

Most people think the fruit of Christianity is niceness but that's a lie because niceness could be found in virtually all the religions on planet earth.

The only FRUIT Christianity produced is people who go out in pairs {Luke 10:1} to preach and teach what their founder taught them in their neighborhood {Matthew 10:11-13} as they are looking for friends of peace! Luke 10:6

So no matter how a religion is branded as long as members are not compelled to doing this that religion is not producing the FRUIT expected of Jesus' followers! Act 1:8

Ken4Christ:
You know you are false. Just that you refuse to acknowledge it. But if you don't repent, you will perish.

Continue deceiving yourself!

AntiChristian:
Baba JW, you better go argue with them about trinity and how Jesus came back when Nigeria was amalgamated.
I no get time for ẹjọ wẹ wẹ!

I just pity you because you are fighting a lost battle!😟

Pootle:
lie about what exactly, about who i was or what?? is being a street boy something to be proud of i drop you a mail and i want to invite you to my area here in lagos

My guy real street boys are smarter than you think. Someone like the Deeperlife man can't deceive them.

Pootle:
shut up, i be confirm street boy, but na there i dey worship na hypocrites you find go abi you go hear sermon. my wife attend elsewhere and brothers and sister same na only me wey be supposed bad boy of the house still go there you know why that the only place the truth is said. person wey dey preach to you fit condemn pass you but me no go to judge them me go to go hear from my MAKER that the place that i go to take off the the extra edge off my life

The highlighted is a lie!

immortalcrown:
Show that you practice true Christianity by explaining two things:
1.the difference philanthropy and pure worship,

Philanthropy is generosity unspecified while pure worship is what God requires from His worshipers.
The later benefits mankind in general while philanthropy is Satan's gimmick to blindfold mankind to welcome slavery.
In God's Kingdom when everything is shared equally there is no need for any philanthropist.

immortalcrown:
2.how a Church building is the only place where the pure worship can take place.

Call it "church building" but according to God's word any form of worship that's not done in accordance with God's will is IDOLATRY.
That is why you complains though you want to be called "Christians" yet your preferred religious leaders keep on disappointing you people!😟

immortalcrown:
Either you did not read the post or you read it but failed to understand it. I love God and support God's work. But once it turns to a minister making prayer of blessings for only those that donate money, I will not donate my money to or through such a minister.

No human being that truly understands what it means to worship God will pray for only those that donate money on a church altar. Who told you that donating for God's work must only happen in the church? What about those who support God's work outside the church but no longer have enough to come and donate again on the altar? Also, what about making the same prayer for those who did not donate so that they will make money and donate next time? As a matter of fact, those who have donated did not even make the money through such prayers.

There is a difference between being a philanthropists {1Corinthans 13:3} and recognizing pure worship! Mark 12:30


If your religion doesn't make things clear regarding contributions in God's house it simply means you aren't practicing true Christianity because in the truth such can't happen anymore!

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

You were never humble because if you are you wouldn't leave Islam for nothing.

For you to have left Islam for no other gathering of worshipers means you were never humble, humble people always love to be in the midst of fellow adherents of the same rules it's rebels that doesn't want such rather they want to set their own standards and force people to bow that's why we have many rebel groups in the world today!

In the first century Judaism is the religion John the baptist met in Israel but what message does this great prophet have for the religious leaders of Judaism of the first century?

“You offspring of vipers, who has warned you to flee from the coming wrath? Therefore, produce fruit that befits repentance. Do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children for Abraham from these stones. The ax is already lying at the root of the trees. Every tree, then, that does not produce fine fruit is to be cut down and thrown into the fire. I, for my part, baptize you with water because of your repentance, but the one coming after me is stronger than I am, whose sandals I am not worthy to take off. That one will baptize you with holy spirit and with fire. His winnowing shovel is in his hand, and he will clean up his threshing floor completely and will gather his wheat into the storehouse, but the chaff he will burn up with fire that cannot be put out.” Matthew 3:7-12

If the religious leaders in Judaism are not worthy before God surely Judaism is no longer acceptable because the leaders will render it unfruitful! Matthew 3:10

Jesus of Nazareth also grew as a Judaist he tried to correct the wrong beliefs of their religious leaders but met fierce opposition so he started gathering his own group to replace Judaism.

His mother and brothers thought Jesus has lost his senses because he doesn't think in line with what he was taught as a child rather he is teaching something totally new. So when his mother and brothers came looking for him someone said to Jesus:
“Look! Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak to you.” Matthew 12:47

What was Jesus' reply?

“Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and my mother" Matthew 12:48-50

Certainly Jesus has turned his back on Judaism and whoever continues in that religion, and he has gathered another group of worshipers to replace Judaists that's why he said regarding anyone still practicing that religion:

“Keep following me, and let the dead bury their dead.” Matthew 8:22

After Jesus has gathered another group of worshipers whoever remains in Judaism is as good as a walking corpse in God's sight no wonder Jesus made it clear that his real families are people who are now doing the will of God that he is teaching! Matthew 12:48-50


So have you abandoned your former religion?
Have you found a better replacement for the one you left?

If Jesus set up a replacement for Judaism surely whoever leaves his religion is not wrong but when you fail to get a better performing group then you don't belong to Jesus!🙂

Try to delete politics in your mind that's the reason you hate people without any justification and seeking reasons to justify it!

Whoever fails to present another group as a replacement for his former religion but keep on spreading bad reports about his former religion is no longer a worshiper of the true God that's exactly what all apostates does right from the beginning till now!

There is this misconception about what is real faith but before we continue with this discussion let's see the scriptural definition of faith:

Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

There is another word that people don't know its meaning but misconstrued for faith that word is credulity.

A willingness to believe in someone or something in the absence of reasonable proof. Oxford Dictionary

So what is the difference between these two words and why do most people misconstrued the both?🤔

Let's first consider credulity and its real meaning. Credulity doesn't need any reasonable proof so someone having it can't convince another regarding what he has therefore the one having credulity can only infuse the idea into others forcefully either through the use of weapons or threat based on fairytales.

But what about faith?

Since faith has been defined as (assured expectation of what is hoped for and evident demonstration of realities) surely faith comes with PROOF as we can see demonstrations as evidence of what we hope to get!

So what are the things we hope to get and what are the demonstrations that's serving as reality of the things we haven't seen?

To be continued....

JimRohn:
You’re only embarrassing yourself with contradictions. First you said Balaam isn’t a prophet because he sinned, yet the Bible itself records: ‘The Spirit of God came upon him, and he uttered the oracle of Balaam… who hears the words of God, who sees the vision of the Almighty’ (Numbers 24:2–4). That is prophetic formula, word-for-word. You can scream ‘bribe’ a thousand times, it won’t erase the text. If God’s Spirit rested on him and he delivered God’s words, he was a prophet — whether you like it or not. The only way you escape this is by rejecting your own Scripture, which is exactly what you’re doing.

Dragging Matthew 12:31 into this only shows desperation. That verse is about blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, not bribery. David committed adultery by the Spirit’s law, Solomon bowed to idols against the Spirit’s command, yet you keep their titles intact. But when it comes to Balaam — suddenly you invent a special category of ‘unforgivable.’ That’s not exegesis, that’s hypocrisy.

As for your childish obsession with me writing ﷺ after Prophet Muhammad’s name — your mockery only exposes your insecurity. Muslims honor all prophets without distinction (Qur’an 2:285). Whether or not I type out the Arabic formula each time doesn’t erase that fact. Unlike you, we don’t dishonor or ridicule prophets of God. And calling Muhammad ﷺ ‘an Arabian guy’ only proves your tribalism, not mine. You pretend to respect Moses and Jesus, yet laugh at the final prophet foretold in your own book (Deut. 18:18). That’s not faith — that’s prejudice.

And stop playing games about the Trinity. First you claim you don’t believe it because it’s not in the Bible. Then you admit you’re a Jehovah’s Witness, whose theology is rejected by the majority of Christianity. So even your fellow Christians don’t take you seriously. You’ve already undermined your own credibility — I don’t even need to do it for you.

📌 Bottom line: Balaam destroys your Israel-only excuse. Muhammad ﷺ destroys your man-made doctrines. And your weak mockery about ‘that funny thing’ only shows you’ve run out of arguments. Keep laughing, because laughter is all you’ve got left when the text has exposed you.

It's obvious you can't answer that simple question but i will leave you with it perhaps your conscience will help you to know why i told you earlier to close the chapter.

Here is the question again:
If truly you believe that all prophets of God needs to be revered why haven't you been adding that thing at the mention of biblical prophets as you were doing for your muhammad?

Steep:
MaxD come and see your fellow trinity denial saying that God has commanded everyone to worship Jesus. Do you agree?

He is not my BROTHER in faith so continue the argument with your fellow worshiper whoever is not one of Jehovah's Witnesses has nothing to say about our own God that's why i keep asking any of you to first mention the name of his or her church before i engage you if you can't do that then you are all on the same page to me!

Steep:
The only difference between grok and the doctrine of the trinity is that God is not just acting as three persons but he IS three persons.

Steep:
Moses was merely representing God to Pharaoh.

This is really getting funnier than i thought!
Moses was addressing the Israelites not Pharaoh in that verse:

“Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah" Deuteronomy 6:4

But if you can't grasp that did Jesus also forgot to tell his followers that God is three persons?

God1000:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uie1ofHYJbo
Pope Leo Urges End To Terror, Destruction And Death In Gaza

War is the result of politics so no religious leader whose members are into politics has what it takes to convince war mungers to stop killing themselves. Revelations 6:3-4
According to the Bible Isaiah and Micah prophesied that in the last days worshipers of the true God will form one global family of peace loving worshipers and they will no longer participate in wars. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
That is what Jesus taught his disciples {Matthew 26:52} he warned his disciples never to participate in worldly affairs which must get them involved with politics {John 17:14-16} so true believers in Jesus don't participate in politics neither do they learn wars but Catholics do participate in politics and wars if Popes can't control their own Catholic members how can they call off wars?