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Queenttoast01:
God does not want the death of a sinner but to repent and be saved

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Does your all knowing god know the exact number of people that will go to hell?

Queenttoast01:
God does not want the death of a sinner but to repent and be saved

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Why then did jesus die?
If jesus didn’t die and you repent as a sinner won’t you be SAVED by yahweh?
Why did jesus die?

OLAADEGBU:
Dr. Jason Lisle

This quote is taken from "Taking Back Astronomy" written by Dr. Jason Lisle. #astronomy #biblicalscience

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What about the other thousand religions worldview ?
Are we going to use laws of illogical?

SIRTee15:
That's your own definition of omniscience.

Does your god know the future?
Is it not your today’s decision that will shape your future, so how does your god know the future if you haven’t even taken a decision or do your god know POSSIBLE decisions you’ll take in the future like a gambler?
You keep contradicting yourself.

SIRTee15:
Already answered. U just going in circles.
When God dwells in physical structures. People can see the physical body... tabernacle, ark, man, burning fire...

Why will a perfect and omnipotent god dwell in things that he created? Things that are lesser than him?
Is that not lessen yourself?

OLAADEGBU:
What questions?

“Evidences speak for itself”, where is abraham talking about his experience?

jaephoenix:
Can you defined omniscient again?

omniscient
/ɒmˈnɪsɪənt/
adjective
knowing everything.

From those bible versed I quoted, DOES YAHWEH KNOW EVERYTHING? No! If he did, why would he take Israel on a merry-go-round to ascertain if they really love him? He'll simply tell them straight-up from the beginning that he knows they are rebellious.
If he's omniscient why would be tell Abraham to tie up his son, to sacrifice him, then stop him when he was about stabbing the poor terrified boy? What if his instructions to stop was too late, na so Abraham for stab the boy. An all knowing god would already know Abraham is loyal and tell him straight up.
Do you understand now?

Thank you for this definition.
It seems SIRTee15 is lost, i asked him if all knowing yahweh knows the exact number of people that will go to hell, he is yet to answer.

OLAADEGBU:
Which Came First?

Ray Comfort

What kind of illiterate talk is this…

This same dunce also said banana proved yahweh existence lol

OLAADEGBU:
See real scientists and what they say about God. Do you still think you're a scientist?

Here is Charles Hard Townes.

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Does this real scientist also believe evolution is not real?
What did he say about evolution?

[quote author=advocatejare post=122720658][/quote]Then Yahweh said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

If Yahweh is one, why does he refer to HIMSELF as… US, WE, OUR?

Let’s see you defend this then we use your own explanation to defend allah own.

Confused Abrahamaic gods worshipper.

OLAADEGBU:
Scientific, did you say?

What are Apes? Are you dull?
Do you think Apes means monkey?

TenQ:
Don't give your pearls to the pigs.

How on earth you want them to understand that they have goofed in their understanding that
Foreknowledge is different from Predestination
How can they be made to understand that God being JUST prevent him from Predestinating anyone for heaven or hell.
How do you want to explain that FREEWILL and predestination does not go together!

You can debate Atheists on Philosophy or Logic or Science BUT it is a waste of Everything to debate Scriptures or Religion with them.

Don't give your pearls to the Pig!

Explain foreknowledge and predestination.
So your god does not know the exact number of people that will go to hell and at the same time he is omniscience?

OLAADEGBU:
With my limited knowledge and my physical senses I have the evidence of God's existence as I have said earlier. When I look at a building, how do I know that there was a builder? I couldn't want a better evidence that there was a builder than to have the building in front of me. I don't even need faith to know that there was a builder. All I need are eyes that can see and a brain that can think.

The same principle applies to the existence of God. When I look at creation, how can I know that there was a Creator? Creation reveals to me that there is a Creator. I couldn't want a better evidence that there is a Creator than to have the creation in front of me. I don't need faith to believe in a Creator, all I need are eyes that can see and a brain that can think.

"For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:20).

But if I want the builder to do something for me, then I need to have faith in the builder. Likewise God, for

"Without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him" (Hebrews 11:6).

If you need to know more about God you need faith based on His Word and World.

The reason you know that a building has a builder or builders is because you’ve seen a building been built by builders BEFORE.
have you seen how a universe have been created BEFORE to know what and what created it?
Wouldn’t it be foolish to compare it both.
Using your logic, who created rock?
Have you seen humans create rock before?

And you’ve also forgot that a builder might be intelligent it doesn’t mean he is omniscience or omnipotent.

SIRTee15:
I know what u and maynman are trying to do. U people are looking for excuse not to be held responsible for your bad choices.
By claiming your destiny is irreversible then u can blame the creator for giving u a bad script to play out.
Let me tell u the truth, disobedient children will not escape judgement.
Adam tried that script with God in Eden, when he blamed his woes on the woman 'God gave him'. God didn't reply him but went straight to judgement.
That's how it's going to be for all rebellious souls.

The Jewish folklore that you are basing your life on has nothing on me.
We are showing you how stupid and absurd the concept is.

It seems to me that you Lord God has merely created man to watch him suffer. This business of Satan, the Garden of Eden and free will is merely a facade. God merely wanted an excuse to harass, persecute, torment and oppress mankind. If an all-powerful and all-knowing being creates everything, and allows his creations to react in a certain way, he actually intended them to act in that way and is solely responsible for the results.

SIRTee15:
I think this has to do with choices made man
Already answered. No need going around in circles.
The problem is you and maynman wants the redefine definition of all knowing God.

Please bring out the definition of an all knowing god.
Does an all knowing god know the future?
Is it not your present decisions that will decide the future, how then does your god already know the future?
Or does your god know possible things that will happen in the future?
That means Revelation may not happen or that one is certain?

You keep contradicting yourself.

OLAADEGBU:
Do you agree that man was created from "dust?"

You said science proved it, show us.
Or on what basis am i to agree?

OLAADEGBU:
I'm sure even you would prefer that your lawyers, bankers and doctors all believe in God, wouldn't you?

I’d rather want them to know gods.
You believe what you don’t know.

SIRTee15:
U will have to give me your definition of destiny because this irreversible destiny makes me doubt u are atheist.
Are u telling me a child born today has his destiny already fixed and nothing can change it.
You mean a child that doesn't even understand any sense of danger is already destined to be an armed robber or prostitute in life. And there's nothing he/she can do about it.
Even, if I'm not a Christian, I will never believe we come from some where to fulfil a definite script in life.
Irreversible destiny is nonsense. Family, genetics and environment determines our personality and greatly influence our future outcomes.
A child who grew up in a loving home with 2 parents, went to good schools and raised in a conducive environment will likely succeed in life compared to someone lacking above.
Go to prison and check the backgrounds of the inmates, it look similar - dysfunctional homes, poor education, grew up in bad neighborhood.
Guy, there's nothing like irreversible destiny. It's the choices u make today reflects on your tomorrow.
So if we have irreversible destiny, then Africa is destined to be forever poor, poverty infested, plagued with wars and famine and nothing Africans can do about it

An Omniscience god knew that adam would sin before he even created adam.

OLAADEGBU:
Google is your friend.

When you ask people to prove their claims don’t forget to listen to your own statement that “google is your friend”..
Hypocrite, because of religion you’ve refused to be educated.

Illiterate calls himself human that comes from homo..
Illiterate is a Homo sapien but not a primate bwahahahah

SIRTee15:
God sees all mankind in heaven. That's your final destination if you follow his will.
It's your choice not to make heaven, he can't drag u to where u don't want to go.

Does your god know the exact number of people that will be in heaven?
Or he hopes all mankind get to heaven the same he hopes what’s written in Revelation comes through?

SIRTee15:
Check fzmasterx response and my response to mayman. Most questions already answered, no need going on repetition.
Quote the direct word of God here. Can't go back and start searching, too many posts.
God doesn't sit a prophet down and tell him what to write verbatim, maybe with exception of Moses which he spoke with face to face. Numbers 12.8
God send his message in the spirit and the prophet delivers them in expressed languages that can't fully comprehend God's ways and thoughts, but the core message isn't lost which is the actual word of God, not the phrases or sentences used. That's why u read the bible in context.

You did not answer any of my questions, you were just contradicting yourself.
From saying your god knows possible choices to saying he knows exact choices yet you have freewill.


If God did not want man to commit the original sin, why did he give man a desire for knowledge, experience, adventure and carnal love?

Toluilori008:
Christ takes you to Heaven

Christian heaven?

jaephoenix:
Thin air

Bwahahahah

If anyone can see the future, then how do you have freewill ?
It’s your decision in the present that will create a future. So how did they get to the future if they don’t know your decisions before you make it?

advocatejare:
Let him go and meet his unloving parents to show him love and attention at home

So the reason you are on here is because your dumb Yahweh worshipper parents didn’t show you love and attention at home and you are seeking it on nairaland?

How can they show you love when they’ve already condemned you by saying one Adam in a book made you a sinner advocatejare

All these yahweh worshippers sha

advocatejare:
When two irresponsible adults give birth to children they don’t cater for and show love to, they produce Maynman

When 2 uneducated slaves give birth to children they produce yahweh worshippers who will be a slave to jewish mythology and will need a jewish man as saviour or they perish, they produce advocatejare, a proud yahweh worshipper bwahahahah

advocatejare:
Stop wasting your time on that boy, he’s not worth your attention. Deprive him of the attention he craves, his parents failed him, they were not good examples of Godly people to him so he hates God cos of the irresponsible nature of his parents. We can only pity him. Please leave him for now, let him sulk in silence!

If your parents did not fail you and make you a jewish slave, how come you are basing your life on books you have no knowledge about?
Your parents made you a yahweh worshipper bwahahahah

They made you a jewish slave by telling you one adam made you a sinner, with guilt and fear they chained you down and you need a jewish man as your savior or else your loving god will send you to hell fire.
Jewish Slave you’ll worship Yahweh till you Die!

ANTIlSLAM:
You go tire today dipstick

Your creator go tire pass, moro.n

ANTIlSLAM:
Is that all?

Ask yahweh

ANTIlSLAM:
Oya you can do more better

And yahweh can’t do better.
Have knowledge on your beliefs

ANTIlSLAM:
U don tire? Dingbat

You don empty? Cretin