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OLAADEGBU:
Sedimentary rock and mountain ranges

Proof of a worldwide flood...

Sedimentary rock layers are water-borne sediments of mud and sand which have solidified. Some sedimentary layers tens of feet thick extend multi-state; others span continents. These regional and continental deposits are found worldwide. Only a global flood would have the power to erode, transport, and deposit such immense quantities of sediment.

Often sedimentary strata are not flat. Very thick layers have been bent and folded without any cracking or breaking. This folding must have occurred before mud and sand layers hardened, which implies rapid deposition by a flood. Great mountain chains such as the Himalayas, Alps, Appalachians, and Rockies are sedimentary rock which was deposited by the Flood and which buckled up afterwards. (Psalm 104:6-9)

Yes, the largest mountain ranges *around the world* are composed of sedimentary rock which only occurs with water and tons, and tons of sediment.

#Noahsflood #Floodevidence #GLOBALflood

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So desperate you're not even coherent anymore.

OLAADEGBU:
Stampeding Dinosaurs

SWIMMING, OR ESCAPING THE FLOOD?

Stampeding dinosaurs running through fast moving water trying to stay afloat as it rose higher and higher. They call it swimming to avoid the word "flood". Convenient isn't it?

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/stampeding-dinosaurs-were-swimming-20130109-2cfvz.html

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Yawheh worshippers desperately defending their deity, they don't mind contradicting themselves lol

OLAADEGBU:
Do you exist?

Only illiterate doesn’t know what “air” means and its composition which can be demonstrated, you don’t need to BELIEVE in air to know Air is true.
If you are educated you will know.

OLAADEGBU:
Who deceived you?

Who brainwashed you?

OLAADEGBU:
His Name Is Jesus Christ!

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How did jesus conquer sin, death hell?

Who created hell?
Who conquered that same hell?
A whole omnipotent lol

OLAADEGBU:
Are you human?

Do you BELIEVE your parents gave birth to you or you KNOW?
You don’t believe truth, there’s no truth that’s why you have to believe.

OLAADEGBU:
That’s your home work. Go find out.

There is no tomb just like your jewish man doesn’t exist

OLAADEGBU:
His Name Is Jesus Christ!

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Where is the tomb located?

OLAADEGBU:
The Hoax Of Evolution

Evolutionism is NOT science.

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Jargons

SIRTee15:
Despite all his claim about thousands of new manuscript contraindications, he finally admitted that the core gospel message in all new testament manuscripts he has studied remain the same- they remain unchanged.

Send me a link to when bart finally admitted, still waiting.

SIRTee15:
This is the definition of strawman argument
A straw man fallacy is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction
My issue with u is all about the word Christians. U raised Nazarene and I was hoping u will let it be since I never debated it with u, but u kept bringing it up again and again.
I'm not interested in Nazarene, I'm interested in Christians. Don't debate Nazarene with me.

1. Mention any Christian sect referred to as pagans in the 1st century. Produce evidence- pls note 1st century.

2. When Herod mentioned the word Christian, who was he referring to? Pagans or followers of Jesus. If it's the former, produce evidence.

3. When did Jesus followers start bearing Christians and was their any sect or group of pagans bearing the name before them?


U wrote this
Like you posted in 68AD, what century were they called “Christian” in antioch.
The way u constructed the sentence made it look like a question.

So how does this strawmann argument relate to out discussion?
You don’t know what “Christian” means?
What’s there to debate about “nazarene”
This is basic to understand, before jesus followers were called christian at Antioch they called themselves NAZARENES.
So if you want to talk about early jesus followers you start from NAZARENE.

Followers of serapis were called christian before 1st century.
Agrippa ll was the one that referred to NAZARENE as christians first in antioch.

Jewish people can’t call themselves from a greek name.
Christian comes from greek term, and not to forget all the gospel were written decades after jesus died.

SIRTee15:
U've lost it. I don't know why u bringing up a strawman argument. Did I ever debate Paul being called Nazarene or not.
They were called Christians in taantioch, century AD. 1st century is 1AD to 99AD. You getting confused and disoriented for u to be struggling with times and calender. Abi what century is 68AD, what century did Paul and the disciples existed.
GO AND SLEEP B4 YOU MISQUOTE SOMEBODY ELSE.

Do you really know what strawmann argument means, and how does it relate to our discussion.
Jesus early followers were called Nazarene, Paul was their leader. How is that debate lol
Nazarene is a sect, a gnostic sect.

You are the confused one, this is what said "Like you posted in 68AD, what century were they called “Christian” in antioch, how does it relate to the jargons you just said?
What exact time between 1-99AD were they called Christian in antioch

SIRTee15:
Paul was called a Christian. Acts 11
25 Then Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul, 26 and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.


This is from the the Wikipedia u selectively quoted.

In 68 AD, a mob of pagans is said to have formed at the Serapis Temple in Alexandria, who then descended on the Christians who were celebrating Easter at Baucalis. There, they sized St. Mark, dragging him through the streets, before throwing him in prison. Clearly those worshippers of Serapis and Christ were aware of each other and the differences within their religions, though perhaps at a later date, some amongst the worshippers of either may have chosen to cover all of their options.

On the other hand, some have pointed out that Chrestus (Christus) was another name for the Egyptian god, Serapis. Chrestus may be translated as "Messiah", though the term need not apply to any specific Messiah, such as Jesus. It therefore could have simply been applied to "Lord Serapis", so that in fact, there was never any connection at all between the early Christians and the worshippers of Serapis

My questions

1. Mention any Christian sect referred to as pagans in the 1st century. Produce evidence- pls note 1st century.

2. When Herod mentioned the word Christian, who was he referring to? Pagans or followers of Jesus. If it's the former, produce evidence.

They were first called a christian in antioch, why didn’t they call themselves “Christians” among themselves?
They had to wait for an outsider to call them?
paul was known as a nazarene according to acts 24:5
We have found this man to be a troublemaker, stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. He is a ringleader of the Nazarene sect


Early Christians were known as Nazarene.
Like you posted in 68AD, what century were they called “Christian” in antioch.

SIRTee15:
I already gave u the evidence, check previous post.
U said something like it's vague or something....

No you didn’t.
Send me a link to where he finally admitted, did you send a link or which evidence are you talking about ?

SIRTee15:
Despite all his claim about thousands of new manuscript contraindications, he finally admitted that the core gospel message in all new testament manuscripts he has studied remain the same- they remain unchanged.

“ I won't argue with u anymore. It's either u produce evidence or your claim is rejected.
You failed to bring any evidence Bart admitted anything, thus your claim is rejected.”

SIRTee15:
I won't argue with u anymore. It's either u produce evidence or your claim is rejected.
You failed to bring any evidence John copied mark, thus your claim is rejected.

Who are these people who are called Christians that are pagans. Christians came from the word Christ-like and were first called such in Antioch acts 11.
Produce the evidence of any Christian sect called pagans in the 1st century AD.

Serapis... Seriously, undo t want to go there.....

I never argued about Nazarene or whether paul wasnt called Nazarene. This is a red herring

The question is who were called Christians when Herod Agrippa mentioned the word Christian in acts 26.
Answer the question?

Think na.
Mark is the earliest gospel to be written, john was written Much much later, all the authors of gospels are UNKNOWN, other gospels used the earliest gospel, mark to write their books.
Which evidences again
None of the authors were eyewitnesses yet they knew even private conversations, divinely inspired abi

Christians from christ, what does “christ” mean?
“Christian” even goes beyond first century 1AD.

Look up on the followers of serapsis.

You said paul was known as a Christian in Act, no he wasn’t, he was known as a nazarene and their group leader, that’s what i said, never said you argued.

You are basing your life on Roman Propaganda worshipping Iesus chrestus that’s why jews reject this greek messiah

SIRTee15:
Despite all his claim about thousands of new manuscript contraindications, he finally admitted that the core gospel message in all new testament manuscripts he has studied remain the same- they remain unchanged.

Send me link where he admitted.

SIRTee15:
Produce the evidence the author of John gospel copied mark.

I'm not here to argue the authors of the gospel books.

Produce evidence of this so called Christians who were pagans.

Paul was already known as a Christian in acts 11. He stood before Herod Agrippa preaching the gospel and Jesus Christ. Herod Agrippa now asked him if he hope he could make him a Christian.

This was Paul's response

Acts 26
27 king Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know you do.”

28 Then Agrippa said to Paul, “Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?”

29 Paul replied, “Short time or long—I pray to God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains.”

So how this conversation connotes paganism is beyond me. Atheist will do anything to win an argument.

The author of john is anonymous, he copied mark and other gospel to write his work.
Do you think the unknown authors of john or mark were alive when jesus supposedly lived?
Mark is the first gospel to be written, other gospels used mark work to write their book, this is easy to understand if not for indoctrination.
John was written much later, mark was the earliest to be written after gospel of thomas.
None of the unknown authors of the gospels was alive when Iesus chrestus was said to live.
You are basing your life on Roman Propaganda.

Please look up on who are the followers of serapis.
This is what i said about paganism, read slowly, “There were people who are called christians that are pagan, agrippa ll was calling “paul” Christian as an INSULT.“

You don’t know what “Christian” means, paul was known as a nazarene according to acts 24:5
We have found this man to be a troublemaker, stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. He is a ringleader of the Nazarene sect

You forgot to quote mark 11:26

And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they aassembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called CHRISTIANS first in cAntioch.
The disciples were first called Christian in antioch it doesn’t mean they were the first to be called “Christians”.

Theist will do anything to defend their deity.

SIRTee15:
And I'm telling u John gospel did not copy mark. Drop it.
Which came first 50AD or 90AD. so if Herod already mentioned Christians in 50AD, what gave u impression there were no Christians 20 or 40 years later when author of mark wrote to the Christian gentiles.
So what does herod meant when he asked Paul if he wanted him to become a Christian. Was Paul a pagan.

U people just like to argue up and down without any foundation or direction. That's why u guys get easily confused.

John gospel copied mark, do you think john gospel was written by john?
All the gospels were written anonymous.
50Ad came before 90Ad.
There were people who are called christians that are pagan, agrippa ll was calling “paul” Christian as an INSULT.

It’s you that don’t understand what you are saying.

FxMasterz:
Most atheist don't know they're demon possessed.

I thank God for your recovery. Welcome back home. May the Lord sustain you to the end.

Please there's something I want you to shed more light on.

I've met Atheists who speak very arrogantly and go to extreme lengths to speak blasphemously against God. All Atheists do it but there are some who go to the extreme. Here on Nairaland, a guy called maynman fits this descriprion. Can you please tell me what makes them do so? Is it because they resent God that much? Is it a demon operating through them? Is it because they've totally convinced themselves that there's no God?
It baffles me so much. Whatt exactly went wrong in their lives? Thanks for the answers in advance.

see this dumb Yahweh worshipper.

SIRTee15:
Initially u said John copied mark, now it's become John copied other gospels. Which gospel? Say it, I want to know.
john was written around 90AD.
John also didn't mention the virgin birth...so how does it change anything. I told u the audience were different. Each person wrote what's relevant to his intended audience.
Tell me the year they were first called Christians in Antioch. Bearing in mind Herod Agrippa mentioned the word Christian when talking to Paul in acts 26 and he ruled in the 50s AD.
Meanwhile the gospels were written at a later date.

What are u on about Jesus appearance in Galilee. Did I say mark mentioned Jesus appearance in Galilee post ressurection. Why do u guys love to create argument that was never debated in the first place.
Mark didn't say a lot about Jesus post ressurection appearance because it didn't matter to his target audience.

Mark is the first gospel,the other gospels copied mark that’s what I said.

If the gospel were written at a later date then who wrote it?
Do you know the difference between 90AD and 50AD?
The people that wrote it were not even alive when Iesus chrestus lived.
All the gospel were written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS, which audience?

The word “christian” already existed before agrippa ll used it, and they were pagans.

No mark didn’t mention jesus appearance in Galilee, he said “ But after I am raised up, I will go before you to Galilee”

Kobojunkie:
Abeg stop propagating this nonsense

You are an epitome of sadness.

SIRTee15:
Despite all his claim about thousands of new manuscript contraindications, he finally admitted that the core gospel message in all new testament manuscripts he has studied remain the same- they remain unchanged.

Send me the link where he admitted.

SIRTee15:
Have u read the gospel of John. Does the book looks like it copied mark with regards to christology, content or structure.

What was added was all about the appearance of Jesus after resurrection.
Mark 16. 6-7 already confirmed Jesus had risen, and in Mark 14.28 Jesus already confirmed he will resurrect and appear in Galilee.
So the book of Mark is complete even without the added manuscript- it only affirms what's already in Mark in earlier chapters.
The author of mark was writing to the Christian gentiles who had no doubt or suspicion about the resurrection and ascension of Jesus.
The gentiles wanted to know about the life of jesus, his ministry and his teaching before his death. That was the information eluding them and the reason Mark was writing to them.

This is unlike Matthew who wrote to Jewish Christians and Luke who had a larger audience of different background. In the later two, they both had to emphasise the appearance of Jesus and witnesses to Jesus' ressurection to the doubting Jews. Mark had no such issues.

When was John written by an unknown author?
John was written much later and steals the basic story from the other gospels but goes completely off the rails from the traditional story. No virgin birth.

Also in the original mark, He has no account of the virgin birth of Jesus–or for that matter, any birth of Jesus at all. In fact, Joseph, husband of Mary, is never named in Mark’s Gospel at all–and Jesus is called a “son of Mary,”

Did jesus appear in Galilee as told in the other forged text?

What century was mark writing to the “Christian gentile”?
There were no christians to differentiate during mattew and john time, remember y’all were first called christian in antioch.

chiziking:
Things You Must Do For God To Reward You.

Apostle Joshua Selman

Listen And Remain Blessed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn_gUa349Vc

A loving and merciful god indeed.

If you see a beggar what MUST that beggar do for you before you help him/her?

Seems humans are more loving than yahweh.

Kobojunkie:
Man was born flesh and blood from his mother's womb. Jesus Christ told you this in His Gospel, affirming what God said in the beginning when He pointed out that man was made from the clay of this earth, not spirit - Genesis 2 vs 6 - 7
You cannot ignore the detail given by Jesus Christ highlighted in blue above. To be born of the Spirit of the Eternal life of God is to be possessed by a power that wields control over your very being. If you do not have Him living 24/7 inside of you, you are not born-again.

To be “born from” and to be “born of” are not the same.

Kobojunkie:
Psalm 14 is attributed to David, himself, a righteous man of God

The god david is referring here is yahweh and david didn’t write any book or existed

Kobojunkie:
1. It is all these nonsense lies we feed ourselves that cause a lot of the problems folks have in relationships abeg!

So, what happens when this person created for you turns out to be just another one of the billions of arseholes walking on the earth? Do you remain attached to the eejit because you need to be completed by such a one then?

What if he doesn’t turn out to be another arsehole?
Why you so negative and unhappy everytime?

apstpaulg:
I guess general conception of the believe that god is in the books or the skies.

Yeah belief.
Some even “believe” god and God means different things because of capital letter lol

SIRTee15:
So what's the problem with mark's ending. What was missing and what was added.

Mark is the first gospel to be written and other 3 gospels use mark to write their own gospels,authors of all the gospel are unknown of course.

Read to know what was added.
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/the-strange-ending-of-the-gospel-of-mark-and-why-it-makes-all-the-difference/

apstpaulg:
Denominational indoctrination in Christianity is getting crazier among Africans especially. I feel, we should try to unbox this loving God, by bringing him out of the books, down from the clouds, into our everyday life. That's when we'll begin to know that God is everything, and everything is God. Not just what we're told by church indoctrination.
Personally I'll recommend this book for any deep thinking Christian who shares my view.

You mean unboxing christian god, yahweh?

FxMasterz:
Take for instance the case of Buhari who is president and also doubled as minister of petroleum resources

Whenever the ministry of petroleum resources needs anything from the presidency, Buhari would write a letter of request as Minister of petroleum, then, he'll fulfil the request as president.

God and Son are just two different positions of the same person.

Jesus can make a request as a Son and fulfil it as Father.

Why is the president now sobbing and praying to himself before he signs the contract?
How can you make a request to yourself?
The minister of petroleum will write a letter explaining to himself to senate before the president approves it.