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[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=122678934][/quote]Hide from what you can’t see?
Or did adam saw god before he ate the fruit?
Yahweh and his white beards bwahahahah

[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=122678718][/quote]I “believe” 2+2 is 4

OLAADEGBU:
God Is...

Real.

Ray Comfort

Yahweh worshipper, why did jesus die?

SIRTee15:
Ok let me tell u why God made man.
God wanted beings that will obey and worship him because they choose to.
Celestial beings don't have that choice, they are all compelled to obey and worship God.
Now God gave man a soul that makes decision for him. Of course God wants us to worship him but he wants it to come from our free will. With the help of the spirit , it was meant to be obedience to God forever.
God gave Adam that choice in the garden. It was left for Adam to choose his path based on the leading of his soul.

How then did satan rebel if they have no choice?
Who created satan and its nature?

if God created man's eyes, legs and mind, he also created man's desires; all his desires, even his desire for knowledge and sex. Why did man sin?

Is just like you setting someone ablaze and then telling them not to react to it and if they react they have disobeyed.

If an all-powerful and all-knowing being creates everything, and allows his creations to react in a certain way, he actually intended them to act in that way and is solely responsible for the results.

bionixs:
they were dead in sin

And jesus death made them alive in sin?

SIRTee15:
See this one. Do u know where u will be in 2050. Do u know what decision u will make on 24/5/2026. Do u for certain where u will be on that day.
God already knows all possible choices available at your whim this time next year depending on how you choose to live your life now.

your god does not know exactly what will happen this time next year he only knows POSSIBLE choices, just like a gambler doesn’t know exactly how the game will end he only knows POSSIBLE choices.
Your god does not know EVERYTHING, he is not omniscience.

Your god does not know what will happen in the future for SURE.


Also how does your god even know the possible choices available to me next year?
My choices this evening can affect where I’ll be next year and like you said earlier “ For the ones u will make in the future, he's waiting for you.”
How does he know my future if he is waiting for me?

You keep contradicting yourself.

SIRTee15:
What u describing is the body

Also you said adam was greedy that’s why he disobeyed.
So Adam had all these traits of disobedience and greediness BEFORE he even ate the fruit, where did he learn it from? Who put it in him?
Did Yahweh know that adam would sin?

SIRTee15:
God knows the decision u will make in the present because he knows your heart and understands your thoughts.
For the ones u will make in the future, he's waiting for you.
Gamblers don't even know their own next thoughts, they wait for the next turn of cards to adjust their game.
The book of revelation is for a certain future when humanity and earth is over, and no more choices. What we have is judgement.

So your god does not know all things, he is also waiting and hoping for what will happen in the future?
no wonder he keeps regretting like gamblers when they stake wrongly.
Your god is not all knowing.

Your god also doesn’t know anyone next thoughts just like the gamblers, he is also waiting.

How is the book of revelation certain since he doesn’t know what will happen in the future as he is waiting according to what you said.
You keep contradicting yourself.

If your god knows the future that means he knows your future choices before you made it in the present yet you have freewill lol
You keep contradicting yourself.

SIRTee15:
What u describing is the body

Yes, so Who gave man two hands and two feet and created them exactly as they are today, and exactly as they were in the time of Adam and Eve?

Queenttoast01:
The kingdom of God is at hand, Repent from your sins and be save

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If you still have to repent before you are saved, why did jesus die?

OLAADEGBU:
The Darker World Is...

Christian walk.

Ray Comfort

Why did jesus die?

RIP..
Getting in shape is important, he looks too loose for 36.

Was george foreman a christian before this incident?

SIRTee15:
Ok I wil repeat man's nature for the last time and that's it.
God made man as a being who is a made in God's image which is the spirit, has a soul given to him by God and lives in the body which is from earth.

Who gave man two hands and two feet and created them exactly as they are today, and exactly as they were in the time of Adam and Eve?

SIRTee15:
Sincerely your question isn't clear. Are u talking about decision make at a particular period in time.
God knows the end of all choices available at your whims but u will be the one to choose. Whichever one u choose, he knows the end.

Man doesn't have a fixed destiny. Like u will grow up and become an armed robber and then u will rob a bank one day and be shot by police officers and then die. Or this child will grow up and will definitely become the president of Nigeria- nothing can change it.
No, that's not Christianity. U confusing it with Islam.

Do you know what “ALL knowing” mean?
So your god does not know the particular choice you’ll choose?

Gamblers knows the end of all choices available in a game but don’t know how the game will go.
Gamblers don’t know the future, your god also doesn’t that’s why he keeps regretting.

If your god doesn’t know exactly what will happen in the future, that means the book of revelation is a farce.

SIRTee15:
Then explain deut 30.19 when God says
I call heaven and earth to record this day
against you that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing. Therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live,
God knows your decision at the point of making it because out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
In Christianity, man doesn't has an unchanged destiny he brought from heaven or a fixed destiny stuck with him when he was born. That's Islam.

Only spirit is from God, body is from earth and he gave man a soul. The soul isn't part of God.
Adam had knowledge and intelligence that came from God. How was he able to tend the soil and gives names without knowledge. Man desired wisdom to make him like GOd, that was his greed.
God doesn't think sin, it's against his nature. His thoughts for us are good and pure.
Adam had the choice to either obey God and live or disobey him and accept the consequence. It had nothing to do with God.

So your god does not know your decision before you make it, how then does he know the future?

Who created man with his body, spirit and soul?
Who created man’s nature?

So before adam ate the fruit he already knew how to be greedy?
Who created man with his desires?

Adam also didn’t create himself with ability to sin, desires and weaknesses.
Who created adam with those features?

bionixs:
ETERNAL LIFE .

Before jesus death there was no eternal life? And Since he died to give us eternal life why do we need to repent?

bionixs:
Jesus died and RESURRECTED to give you life.

I might not expect you to believe but deal with the truth

Thank you sir

Weren’t people alive before jesus death?

Jesus paid for your sin from who?
His father?

geoworldedu:
God is a big-time failure. Sending his son to die for the sins of the world but things continued like ever before. What a monumental failure.

Gbam!

Kobojunkiee:
You are! She is an actress, and not a clown or comedian.

Because she is an actress she has to accept even sex scenes?

OfeAchi:
Not a IndecentStar. She features in series and some low budget 18+ movies. Hoping to become a superstar in future.

She’ll do anything to be a superstar and act to her finest, hope you know?

Yes.
Just like you doing random checkup in the hospital is a good way to manage your health, you don’t have to wait till you fall sick.

Righteousness2:
They are privileged to Have an opportunity to Evacuate. Let them make good use of it.

Immediately the trumpet blast and the saints vanish in the twinkling of an Eye, the whole earth will be In a war like zone. Confusions and Destructions here and there. There will be no opportunity for anyone to Evacuate to anywhere.

Now is the opportunity we Have to make preparation and be ready for the coming of JESUS CHRIST.
JESUS Christ is coming.. Be ready.

Why did jesus die?

Queenttoast01:
The kingdom of God is at hand, Repent from your sins and be save

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Why did jesus die if you still have to repent from your sins and be saved?
If he didn’t die won’t you still repent from your sins and be saved?

[quote author=teebagy post=122672550][/quote]Is the person asking me to choose an omniscience?

SIRTee15:
because he knows your heart and thoughts.
Answer to one of your previous post- God created only good desires for humanity. Evil desires came up when man fell and sin entered the world.

he already knows the decision you’ll pick before you decided to pick it, if you have freewill how was he able to know your choice?
When you think you have a choice it’s yahweh deceiving you that you have one, he has already programmed you to choose the choice he wants that’s why he knows your choice before you picked it.

Is everything that’s part of man come from god?
Did yahweh know that adam would sin?
Before adam sin, where did adam get the desire for knowledge?

SIRTee15:
Your choice is within his knowledge not outside. nothing u do takes him by surprise. Maybe another time I will tell u why he gave us freewill/choice in the first place.
Goodnight.

If he gave you freewill how did he know your choice before you made it?

SIRTee15:
Yes but only the spirit is made in his image.
Omniscience means all-knowing. God is all all-knowing in the sense that he is aware of the past, present, and future. Nothing takes him by surprise. His knowledge is total. He knows all that there is to know and all that can be known.
Do u know God has numbers for each strand of our hair. He's aware of that leaves that dropped off the branch in the thickest forest. There's no choice u make that's he's not aware.

Then, if God created man's eyes, legs and mind, he also created man's desires; all his desires, even his desire for knowledge and sex. Why did man sin?


Yahweh is all knowing yet you have freewill?
It seems you are only acting the script yahweh already wrote about your past, present and future, and brainwashed to believe you are under the pretense of freewill.

Yahweh knew Adam would sin, he plotted the scene lol

SIRTee15:
Man was made in the image.of God- spirit. But it's the soul that's responsible for the decision making
Because he's omniscient. He knows end right from the beginning Isaiah 46.10

Did everything that is part of man come from God?

But your decision even before you made it has already been known by your omniscience god, he knows the beginning and end. how did he know that if you are yet to make your decision?

SIRTee15:
Finally u and maynman need to understand God has given man a choice via his soul. God made man with his own independent will- God will not make a decision for man.
Whatever decision man makes, God knows the outcome right from the beginning, but God will not force his will mankind. You have to responsible for the choice u make so u can be rightly judged.
That's what set man apart and unique from other God's creation like angels, the right to make a choice- freewill.

After the flood, man had 2 choices, to repent and obey God or to revert to their evil ways of disobedience.
Your erroneous assumption here is to assume God should know they will continue to sin so the previous judgement was a waste.
But even if God judges the world a million times, the next man would still be given that right to make a choice of who to follow. That's why he's a man and that's the only way his impending judgement can be deemed fair.
Understanding above answers a lot of your other questions.

Who created man’s nature?
Since we have a choice, how did Yahweh know your choice from beginning?

If you are giving the right for who to follow, why are they punishing you for using your right?

SIRTee15:
Bible said so, noah was the only righteous man on earth at that time. For all the people had corrupted their ways and became very violent. Gen 6.12.


Did I mention noah warned anybody?


Of course it will. Who will want his head chopped off on a block. I doubt u will last a day in the midst of those hyenas. The era of noah was hundred times worse.


Yes, we sure have more than one righteous man now. And men of good morals abound.
God protected Noah.
it was a small boat and it took him 50 years to build. That was enough time for couple of guys and women to finish the work.

Who created the people that corrupted their ways and became very violent?
Weren’t you created in yahweh image and likeness?

Did your bible not mention noah warning people?

If noah can be the only righteous man on earth with people who are violent I’ll take my chances with sambiasa, like you said the world has lesser sinners now, in noah day everyone was a sinner except noah abi?

So we had more than a billion people during Noah time?

Why didn’t god protect jesus?

Couple of guys and women to finish which work??
I thought only noah was the only righteous one and others are corrupted and became violent?
How did those couple guys and women last a day in the midst of hyenas talkless of 50 years?