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TradingGod:
because satan took the nature of sin, and God cannot accommodate sin no matter what so that is why satan was banish from heaven before he corrupted heaven with his sin nature

God is Merciful because normally satan due to his new sinful nature he should be wiped out of existence since God hate sin but instead our Merciful Saviour preferd to send him to hell so that he satan could rule over hell

But due to the sinful and greedy nature of satan, satan came to earth to take over the earth with his sin which will derail the divine process God has laid for man from the beginning

That is why when Jesus Christ died on the cross, He went to hell to take over the authority of hell from satan because of what satan did to man in the garden of eden

Now satan has no more power, except lies and tricks because even the authority over hell has been taken from him.

Now see it this way,
God has shown mercy to the devil twice

First was when lucifer rebel against God
Then second was when satan deceived Adam

Yet When Lord Jesus Christ went to Hell, He didn't Kill satan rather Lord Jesus took the authority of earth and hell and came back after 3 days to earth to show that he has taken back that authority of earth and hell from satan, and yet Lord Jesus didn't kill him when he had the chance to, is that not a Merciful God?


How many people can forgive satan for all his atrocities right from the day he rebel against God uptill now,

Yet when Lord Jesus had the opportunity to kill him in hell, He only took the authority from satan and went back to earth

even tho satan keep sinning and destroying God good earth with his sin yet Lord Jesus is so Merciful because He even gave satan some more time to enjoy his existence before he will be sent to the lake of fire for final destruction is that not Merciful enough

Sin means disobedience to yahweh, so what you mean yahweh cannot accommodate sin?
The only reason satan sin was because he lost the fight, if he had won, yahweh would have been the one that sinned.

How is yahweh sending satan to hell a merciful thing?

If he had wiped down satan in the first place would jesus have come down to earth to the extent of yahweh sacrificing his child, are you sure yahweh is omniscience?

You are contradicting yourself if yahweh send satan to rule the hell, how then did satan came to take over earth?
Yahweh let him come to earth knowing he will corrupt it?

You said yahweh is merciful that’s why he sent satan to rule hell, that same yahweh still had to kill his own child to take back hell from satan Lol
How did a defeated satan able to make Yahweh send his child to be killed?
Are you sure yahweh won against satan?

it was your yahweh that sent satan to hell to rule it, same yahweh still sent his child to die so it can go to hell to take the control back from satan, yahweh is confused.
So jesus is the ruler of hell now?

How did a defeated satan able to come to earth, thought you said yahweh doesn’t accommodate sin, so why did yahweh allow satan to come to earth?
You said jesus came to take authority of earth from satan, who gave it to him? You can’t have authority over something you didn’t own.

When satan was with the earth authority what did he do with it? Now that jesus is with earth authority, what has he done to it?
How did a defeated satan able to derail a omnipotent and omniscience god divine plan?
Why didn’t yahweh banish satan from earth knowing he was greedy and sinful?
Why is yahweh doing afterthought planning?
Are you sure yahweh defeated satan?

If after the rebel satan was sent to hell to rule it how did that same defeated satan get into garden of eden to deceive Adam?

What’s the significance of jesus taking back hell from satan, what’s the impact?
Will it make hell hotter?

How is yahweh merciful by giving someone time before sending someone to lake of fire after they fought in a duel, why can’t he forgive and pardon his defeated opponent?

If i delay your Painful death that means I’m merciful?

teebagy:
Not from himself but from sin.

And sin means disobedience to yahweh?

OLAADEGBU:
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If God is just or merciful, Why did God not simply pardon Satan after defeat as men often do to a captured nation after they defeat it? Mankind would seem in victory to be more merciful than God; for they do not treat the vanquished to such terrible torments for even a lifetime, let alone for all eternity. Why did God not show the qualities that you described as his justice, mercy, compassion, and forgiveness to Satan?

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Lukuluku69:
Ok.

In other words, Hubal was their Allah.

Lukuluku69:
The Muslim know that. The Jews too but won't admit it. The Christians are the Dotar.ds here.

It is just a case of Dialects. Allah, Eloha, Eloh, Eloh. They speak a Language which is a sister language. Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic. They are Semite as you know.

Ask any Yoruba man the difference between OLODUMARE AND ELEDUMARE. He will tell you they are one and same just a dialectical difference.

And do they also know that allah/elohim means gods, and the father of all gods is el?

Mohammed is a very sharp guy, he was still worshipping the gods of his father, he only rebranded Hubal to Allah.

Only if all these Abrahamaic gods worshipper know that allah and elohim means same thing

Ken4Christ:
The first Adam knew the instruction God gave him but he chose to disobey God. So, his ignorance of the knowledge of good God and evil does not count.

He was given a clear instruction and he ignored it.

So he knew that disobedience is evil and obedience is good, yet at the same time ignorant of what good and evil means?

Ken4Christ:
His death provides the legal ground for your salvation. But your choice determines if you eventually get saved. You either repent and accept the free gift of salvation or perish.

What’s the legal ground of salvation? What’s the impact?
Before jesus death, how were sinners saved?
After jesus death, how were sinners saved?

Why did jesus die?
If man still has to repent as a sinner before they can be saved, what’s the essence of jesus death?

Ken4Christ:
God is a just God. It's not his duty to stop Satan. It's our duty to stop him by taking the right decision.

If God is just or merciful, Why did God not simply pardon Satan after defeat as men often do to a captured nation after they defeat it? Mankind would seem in victory to be more merciful than God; for they do not treat the vanquished to such terrible torments for even a lifetime, let alone for all eternity. Why did God not show the qualities that you described as his justice, mercy, compassion, and forgiveness to Satan?

Ken4Christ:
God gives us many opportunities to repent. Those who go to hell are the ones who rejected them.

Why then did jesus die?
If man still has to repent as a sinner before they can be saved, what’s the essence of jesus death?
Before jesus death, how were sinners saved?
After jesus death, how were sinners saved?

Ken4Christ:
Your example does not hold water.

The last Adam, Jesus was subjected to the same temptation the first Adam failed.

That the first Adam failed didn't make God change his principle.

Everyone must be subjected to test.

Does the first adam know what good and evil is before been tempted?
Does the last adam know what good and evil is before been tempted?
How are they then subjected to the same temptation?

Like you said earlier, first adam didn’t know who devil was, did jesus also not know who devil was?

Ken4Christ:
It's a spiritual principle that cannot be broken.

Redemption must be by blood.

Who created blood?
Why then does a creator need one of his inventions, what’s it going to use it for?

Queenttoast01:
God does not want the death of a sinner but to repent and be saved


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Why then did jesus die?
If man still has to repent as a sinner before they can be saved, what’s the essence of jesus death?
Before jesus death, how were sinners saved?
After jesus death, how were sinners saved?

americanigga:
You are really intelligent. You completely annihilate him. I was figuring out how to respond to him when I read your response, You went far beyond my imagination.

You should write a book

Thank you.

[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=122628246][/quote]Yahweh could not sin, because he could not be disobedient to himself. But since sin is impossible for him, it is no more a mark of achievement for him to be free of sin than it is a mark of achievement for a rock to be unable to move, Both lack the Ability. It's merely a matter of definition.
Just because a rock doesn’t have the ability to move don’t mean he is above moving.
Just because yahweh doesn’t have the ability to sin don’t mean he is above sinning.

Goodlady:
Of cos I v my own wealth and it's still accumulating.

As it should be for an adult.

Goodlady:
I pray God heal her.
You men ll learn the hard way. You think you are all smart, una go see shege!

Why don’t you use your own smartness to create your own wealth and then you won’t need to depend on sharing someone’s wealth that’s not as smart as you, Huh?

Queenttoast01:
John 1:10-13

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Common sense 1:10-4-6

4.You don’t know your jewish creator is a roman propaganda, a parody made to deceive believers like you.
5. Your jewish savior only exist in New Testament, outside of it he doesn’t exist.
6. Your jewish savior is also dead in that same New Testament that you base your life on.

I hope you don’t die a yahweh worshipper.

Queenttoast01:
1 Corinthians 1:8

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God

1 common sense 1:2

For the message of slaves is to believe forged and edited books and to worship yahweh and a dead jewish man they’ve been indoctrinated into.

OLAADEGBU:
Ask Mr. Atom.

An intelligent designer that had to sacrifice himself to himself.

ochibuogwu5:
Personal relationship with Jesus Christ Crucified *that is active every fresh second of our earthly existence is the only permanent solution to human living on this earth*


Jesus is *100% God*
And
Jesus is *100% human*


*There is no good or bad thing that any human being has experienced or is experiencing or will experience* that Jesus *cannot relate with as a human being* and *yet He did not sin* and *yet He did not die or allow anybody to kill Him before His appointed time to redeem mankind through His sacrificial death on the Cross of Calvary*


Any human being *who truly wants to live life to the fullest on this earth and at the same time walk in the perfect-will of God as well as rule in the seen and unseen realm should dig deeper into Jesus Christ Crucified*



There is *always more of Him* that *satisfies and soothes every new desire, burden, fear, anxieties, stress, pains, hurts, excitements and ambitions of any human being*


John 7:37-39 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)


John 4:13-14 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.


Matthew 11:28-30 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Why did jesus die?

OLAADEGBU:
I worship Jesus. Jesus is Yahweh!

Jesus died to atone your sins to jesus before jesus can forgive you.
Jesus was dead for 3 days that means jesus(your creator) can die.
Who was running the world in those 3 days?
It seems they did okay without your creator.

Think na yahweh worshipper.

hashtagged:
Please religious folks if someone commits suicide will he/she go to hell. If the person is such and in so much pain and can't see a way out?.

Christian hell, muslim hell or this hell?
There are other hells too if you need more options.

OLAADEGBU:
Man is not a beast....

Who created man's nature?

OLAADEGBU:
So said the atheist who thought he was smart.

So said the theist that chose a dummy storm god as his creator and a dead jewish man as his saviour.

jaephoenix:
Yahweh sent his own son to die to save the world from himself(yahweh). Its simple

bwahahahah

jaephoenix:
Those ones came the loopholes, dodged and entered a worse loophole

You gerrit.

OLAADEGBU:
God's Omniscience!

So your teacher analogy is flawed, yahweh worshipper.

jaephoenix:
Exactly

My guy, you see why Jehovah witnesses claim yahweh is not omnipotent and omniscience, they’ve seen the loopholes.

OLAADEGBU:
You don't want to leave it too late.

Yahweh worshipper, have you ever look up on the origin of the word “hell”?
Iesus chrestus in your New Testament is a jew he spoke aramaic/hebrew. What’s hell in his language?
Your hell(Gehenna) is in south of Jerusalem bwahahahaha



Yahweh worshippers when brahma worshippers are right.
And that’s just one out of the other thousand religions. You are going to someone’s hell in his own religion.

Ken4Christ:
Someone has to die to redeem mankind because it's the blood that makes atonement for sins.

There is no short cut.

This is why the blood of animals were used for atonement before Jesus came. But the blood of animals could not take away the sins of mankind because it's not the same value as the man that nerds redemption. It only covered their sins for a one year period. And the sacrifice had to be repeated yearly.

But the blood of Jesus washed away our sins for eternity. He met the demand of justice.

If I am owing you a certain amount of money, it's either I pay you that money or it's equivalent. You won't accept anything less.

Yahweh worshipper what are you saying?
Are you saying your loving god needs blood as a requirement for atonement?
What’s an omnipotent god doing with blood of animals and man?

The blood of animals were atone to yahweh and devil?
And now that jesus blood was used, who was it atoned to, is it yahweh or devil?
Are you saying yahweh sent his own child so that he can kill his own child to use his blood to atone for your sins before yahweh can forgive you?
What kind of blood fetish does your creator for?