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Aemmyjah:
See how you reason
Na me mention the man before
You brought it up without giving any reasonable evidence why you bring it up and a man who lived loooooong before Jesus came. What is the connection between the man and Chrestians and why did you bring it up or what has he got to do with all your contradictions?

You brought up Tacitus that was talking about Chrestians, Suetonius was talking about Chrestians.
All your evidence of iesus chrestus is false!
Ask yourself who are the Chrestians this historian are referring to?
Who burnt down rome during Nero period?

Aemmyjah:
Whether the earliest or not is your own problem to believe. You keep providing evidence and contradicting yourself instead of driving home the main point.
The hjstoricity of Jesus Christ

Unlike you I don’t believe books, Mark is the earliest gospel written by an UNKNOWN AUTHORS, and the other gospels copied Mark, why do you think they call it “synoptic”? Illiterate

If not for illiteracy, you’ll know there’s no evidence of Iesus chrestus outside the New Testament that was created and meant for CHRESTIANS

Kobojunkie:
1. God made it clearly known in Genesis 2 vs 6 -7 & then Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 that indeed, Man was created a mortal being from his inception. Jesus Christ affirmed God's Truth in John 3 vs 1-8 when He assured those listening tha the only life a man knows from his mother's womb is a physical life which ends which His journey in this physical world comes to end.

Which god was talking in genesis?

Kobojunkie:
1. When you have religion, you cannot experience God. What Christians have is religion and none of God so how can you expect them to experience anything that is of God?

You are experiencing yahweh and you are this dejected?

Over 100 people die of malaria EVERYDAY in Nigeria, most are children, can you ask yahweh for help?

Kobojunkie:
Of course! Those who are God's enemies have proof of His existence, after all, they are born of spirit meaning they all have eternal life bestowed upon them. But as Jesus Christ explained in the Parable of the Wheat and Tares, rather than devote their existence afterward to continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of God, they choose instead to reject God and plow the path of sin(disobedience).

And this your god is yahweh?

Kobojunkie:
1. You know that this doctrine that being born-again equates being set free from slavery to sin is not at all scripture, given that in the entire context of John 3 vs 1 - 21 where Jesus Christ fully addressed the subject, He never once mentioned anything about freedom from sin or sinlessly in connection with the process?

OP, did you know that all those who will eventually find themselves in Eternal damnation have one thing in common with all those who will find themselves in Eternal Reward and that one thing is that they are all of them born-again? Yes, those destined for eternal damnation along with all those destined for eternal reward are all born-agains meaning that they all have eternal life to spend in either of those two places. So, do not for one moment assume you can get away from sin simply by acquiring eternal life - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46.

Rather, as Jesus Christ instead explained, the only way to be set free from slavery to sin is through continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's Law and Truth in the Kingdom of God be set free from slavery to sin by the Truth and eventually transformed into a Son of God - John 8 vs 31 - 36. There is no other way.

Illiterate, jesus was a jew and he used the jewish concept to explain hell.
Hell is in Jerusalem.

Kobojunkie:
And this suggestion is equally of brain damage on your part since Judaism is a religion that claims to have its foundation in the Constitutional Law of the state of Israel as constituted by God in the Land of Canaan. How in the world is that going to help Nigeria and Nigerians who are removed from Israel and the land of Canaan for crying out loud!

ROFLMAO!

Judaism goes beyond the “state of israel”.
Abraham is the father of Judaism and he is not an Israelite or a jew.
The “God” in Judaism is called yahweh.
Jesus literally means yahweh saves.
What did jesus say was the greatest commandment? Shema Yisrael

Who is yahweh, kobojunkie?

Kobojunkie:
1. And in the same Gospel of John, you are also informed that only those of them who then go on to live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ — God's Truth in the Kingdom of God— will through knowing the Truth eventually be set free by the Truth from slavery to sin and transformed into Sons of God - John 8 vs 31 - 36. Surely, you are aware that picking an aspect of God's Truth while discarding the others means what you have isn't God's truth but a lie still?

2. Two things here

a. According to Jesus Christ, God only loves those who love Him and those who love Him are those who live their lives in submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 23. God said they are the ones whom His Love is stored up for and will be revealed to - John 15 vs 9 - 11. But here you instead claim that God loves all, so are you insinuating that Jesus Christ was wrong about whom God in fact loves?

b. When a person enters into the Kingdom of God, the person becomes born— not adopted — of spirit - John 3 vs 1 - 8. How can a person who is said to have been born of spirit, and eventually transformed into a Son of God, still be considered one adopted by God?

When they asked jesus what was the greatest commandment what did he say? Hope you are worshipping yahweh, Shema yisrael

MrBrownJay1:
there is no such thing as a woman physically unattractive to all... what i would consider physically unattractive, could be someone else's standard of "being sexy". for example: many men are attracted to fat women while i believe its unattractive.... to each their own!

How many rich men are attracted to fat women?

Spiritualsdeeps:
Do not Overlook The Significant of Spiritual Matters, They Influence Our Daily Lives.


I Remain Spiritualist Ade.

Spiritual investigations..
Check Below

Common sense influences our daily life more, what’s good about spirituality if it doesn’t come with progres and development ?
The most religious country are the poorest.

Save yourself from delusion, yahweh worshipper.

Spiritualsdeeps:
Investigate Spiritually.

I Remain Spiritualist Ade.

Spiritual investigations..
Check Below

First off know the origin of the word “spiritual” and don’t delude yourself, yahweh worshipper.

Spiritualsdeeps:
You are Ignored... Go to Spiritual Prophets that saw the Owoh killing ahead to ask them...

Thanks

You are indoctrinated, it was you that brought in spiritual prophets that saw the killing, who did they say they told the prophecy to?
Or their mouth was running after christians were killed inside house of yahweh?

Spiritualsdeeps:
Before the Attack, Was there any Spiritual Prophecies Concerning the Attacks that they did not Adhere to?

Why didn’t the spiritual prophets go to the police?

OLAADEGBU:
When Jesus was made alive in the spirit, it is not saying that His spirit died, and then it became alive again. "Made alive in the spirit" is contrasted with "put to death in the flesh." He first lived as mortal men but "…He began to live a spiritual 'resurrection' life, whereby He has the power to bring us to God."¹ Furthermore, some Bibles (NIV, KJV, and NKJV) render the verse as "made alive by the Spirit" refers to the Holy Spirit’s work with Christ. "By the Spirit" translates one word, pneumati, which could refer to the third Person of the Trinity as the agent of Christ's resurrection.²

“Third person of the Trinity” lol, indoctrinated polytheist

Aemmyjah:
Maynment and Ape doctor
Come and read

Why Is There Not More Secular Support on Jesus death and resurrection ?
Given the profound influence that Jesus had on the world, should we expect more in the way of contemporary non-Biblical corroboration? Not necessarily. For one thing, the Gospels were written almost 2,000 years ago. Few other writings of that time have survived. (1 Peter 1:24, 25) Then, too, it is unlikely that Jesus’ many opposers would write anything that would lend credibility to the reports about him.

Regarding Jesus’ resurrection, Peter, one of his apostles, explained: “God raised this one up on the third day and allowed him to become manifest, not to all the people, but to witnesses appointed beforehand by God, to us, who ate and drank with him after his rising from the dead.” (Acts 10:40, 41) Why not to all the people? Matthew’s Gospel tells us that when the religious enemies heard reports of Jesus’ resurrection, they schemed to suppress them.​—Matthew 28:11-15.

Does this mean that Jesus wanted his resurrection to be kept secret? No, for Peter went on to say: “He ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness that this is the one decreed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.” True Christians have done and are doing just that.​—Acts 10:42.

AnimalJah, the earliest gospel is Mark, other authors used marks gospels to write theirs, not to forget that all of the gospels were written by unknown authors.

Now what does the earliest book of mark say about Iesus chrestus and his resurrection

Even your forged books debunked you.

Aemmyjah:
Dumb
Now, where are the Chrestians from the image you posted or the god you mentioned they worshipped or that they have any connections with mithridates? I pity your future... Oh, you said life has no purpose or meaning. Why should I pity something you don't have

Who is mithridates chrestus? Is he a chrestian?
I pity your worthless life… oh, you said your life has no purpose or use without Israelite deity, yahweh.
Well I would still pity the kids that will come out from you, will they also be a slave to the baldheads in watchtower and Yahweh??

Aemmyjah:
Dumb
Now, where are the Chrestians from the image you posted or the god you mentioned they worshipped or that they have any connections with mithridates? I pity your future... Oh, you said life has no purpose or meaning. Why should I pity something you don't have

Who is mithridates chrestus? Is he a chrestian?
The people that burnt down rome were Chrestians and that’s who tactitus and Suetonius was referring to, Josephus was referring to judas of Galilee.
The New Testament you are basing your life on is a book for Chrestians.
y’all were first called “Chrestian” at antioch, watchtower slave is asking where are the Chrestian, not knowing Chrestianity evolved to Christianity.
I pity your worthless life… oh, you said your life has no purpose or use without Israelite deity. Well I would still pity the kids that will come out from you?

Aemmyjah:

Delusional person providing articles and disagreeing with them where he does not like

Indoctrinated animal, Which of my article agrees with what you like?
I’m still waiting for you to post your real sources from new authorship, or did you get it from JW.org website or is it from Wikipedia that said this?
Who is doing the altering?

When we are done, we will look up your creator, yahweh on Wikipedia hope you’ll agree with it and not disagree with what you don’t like.

Aemmyjah:
Whether na Iesus chrestus or yeye chrestus or ABC chrestus, you are the one providing more evidence to back the historicuty of someone you call a myth

back what historicity? Are you dumb?
You are so desperate any chrestus you see is referring to the one in the New Testament?
You can’t prove your creator existed

Weren’t people killed inside a church in owo?

Aemmyjah:
Ment guy

Historical or fictional Iesus chrestus?

Animal guy
Where did you read Iesus chrestus from?
New Testament?
What’s the oldest New Testament?
What does it say about Iesus chrestus?

Animal!

Aemmyjah:
Lol
Ment guy says Jesus never existed
Now he is referencing another work that it was not Jesus but judas but the mythical Jesus was reported from same author to have died. An historian writing about a mythical person and real person living at the same time in the same writing? You have great problem

Animal guy can’t prove that Iesus chrestus exist outside the New Testament.
You are just jargons, you are not coherent with yourself.

Calm down and communicate.

Aemmyjah:
Who asked for secular evidence?
I mentioned four
Yet, Chrestians were mythical people
Mentness

You mentioned four what?
Who are the “Chrestians”?
Are you dumb?

Aemmyjah:
Guy, go back to the comments you said and reread it
Stop fooling yourself

It’s you that should go back and educate yourself, illiterate.

KnownUnknown:
Did Tacitus or Josephus really say these things?
Take Tacitus for example:

As with almost all ancient Greek and Latin literature,[14] no original manuscripts of the Annals exist. The surviving copies of Tacitus' works derive from two principal manuscripts, known as the Medicean manuscripts, written in Latin, which are held in the Laurentian Library in Florence, Italy.[15] It is the second Medicean manuscript, 11th century and from the Benedictine abbey at Monte Cassino, which is the oldest surviving copy of the passage describing Christians.[16] Scholars generally agree that these copies were written at Monte Cassino and the end of the document refers to Abbas Raynaldus cu... who was most probably one of the two abbots of that name at the abbey during that period.[16]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Jesus

And besides Tacitus was talking and describing Chrestians.
Suetonius too was talking about Chrestians.

Aemmyjah:
Ment guy

Historical or fictional Iesus chrestus?

Animal guy

Which book did you read historical or fictional Iesus chrestus?
Is it inside a book that one character was walking on water?

Aemmyjah:
Maynment
I'm sure that what you posted is not for a unbiased source
Even if it was
Was it a real Jesus, fictional Mary and jospeh
I'm not sure if you think Josephus was not a myth himself cos you're just delusional

Which jesus?
Which mary and Joseph?
If you think Josephus is not a myth then why are you acting dull questions.

Josephus was talking about judas of Galilee, early Christians especially master forger Eusebius used alot of Josephus work to write and shape the New Testament.

Animal!

Aemmyjah:
Menton and quote 10 names and characters and events from those 'many books'

I accept Mad is my brother, he's not ment. Who's yours?

Are you an animal that can’t think?
The jospehus books, the tactitus books you are using to defend yourself are not part of the “many books”

Sheep, are the books in your Old Testament not more than 2000 years old?
Think na animal

Aemmyjah:
That Jesus never existed?
Where's the sentence

De play

Which jesus are you talking about?

Dey worship yahweh and iesus chrestus

Aemmyjah:
Ignorance is a disease and a common one for atheists like you

Forgery and interpolation are joys of theists like you.

Josephus and Tacitus never referred to your Iesus chrestus

Aemmyjah:
In all the hundreds of stupid comments you dropped
Nothing is even convincing that Jesus NEVER existed
What does Wiki says

That same Wikipedia said this.a
Who did the altering?