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PoliteActivist:
I am finally giving up.
You are saying what you don't know and won't accept you don't know!
THE ASSUMPTION PERTAINS TO HOW WE PERCRIVE RELITY. THAT WE PERCEIVE REALITY IS NOT AN ASSUMPTION!!!!!
Stop being intentionally infantile!

Are you dull?
If everything in reality is an assumption, how then did you perceive the reality in the first place?

PoliteActivist:
I am finally giving up.
You are saying what you don't know and won't accept you don't know!
TGE ASSUMPTION PERTAINS TO HOW WE PERCRIVE RELITY. THAT WE PERCEIVE REALITY IS NOT AN ASSUMPTION!!!!!
Stop being intentionally infantile!

You are saying jargons that you’ve been feeding yourself and your fellow theist.

It’s no longer “EVERYTHING in our reality is an assumption - we have NO WAY of proving that reality exist as we experience it”

Are you daft, you said everything in our reality is assumption, how then do you know for sure their is reality, how do you know you are perceiving reality since it’s assumption?

PoliteActivist:
I give up!

Pepper can always exists, tomatoes and onions too. But for them to arrange themselves perfectly in a pot and heat themselves to make a delicious soup, dies not happen without a designer in this our reality!!!!
Bye bye

Thats Stupid.
If pepper, tomatoes, onions can MAGICALLY exist, what then is stopping them from MAGICALLY arranging themselves in a pot to make a delicious soup?
What’s stopping the process?

PoliteActivist, Where in our reality is pepper, tomatoes and onions existing on their own?

PoliteActivist:
Can a person possibly be this dense?!
My thinking is reality AND THERE IS NO DOUBT IT EXISTS!
Leave this topic alone. It is above you

Can a person be this brainless?
Earlier you said “EVERYTHING in our reality is an assumption - we have NO WAY of proving that reality exist as we experience it”

How then do you know your thinking is a reality or are you assuming?

You are yet to make any intelligent point, I’ll expose your ignorance.

PoliteActivist:
Stop making a a fool of yourself.
In our reality we can imagine simple, unarraged systems always exiting. But in our reality delicately arranged systems like a delicious pot of soup ALWAYS have a designer behind them.
Now go rest

Stop being an illiterate.

Have you experienced other reality to differentiate ours from them?

can you name the simple systems existing, and what are the complex system that needs a designer?

If you are using a delicious pot of soup as an example, an infantile example, then you also have to use the SAME example for things that have always existed.

Are you now saying a pot of sour soup can be existing?
And what’s stopping us from IMAGINING delicious pot of soup can also be existing?

PoliteActivist:
Go to Descartes. The fact that there is thinking (which fact is not in any way debatable) proves that something exists.
I think this discussion is a bit above your level. Leave it alone

You sounding more ignorant.

Answer na
We know dark matter exist and we have fact to prove it.
Can you prove reality exist, have you experienced it to know?

PoliteActivist:
I think this topic is a bit a above your pay grade. With all due respect you sound dumb.
There may be another reality where a pot if soup can cook itself.
In our reality we can imagine things always existing but we can't imagine a delicious pot of soup cooking itself!
Ciao

You are the dummy that doesn’t know what he is saying again bwahahahah
With all due respect you are a dullard.

Which other reality? Do you have fact or just assumptions?

In our reality, which things do we imagine are always existing?
If we can imagine a thing existing, why can’t we imagine it in its beautiful state?
If we can imagine a soup existing by itself, why can’t we imagine it as a beautiful soup?
What’s stopping us from continuing IMAGINING?

PoliteActivist:
Ok, so it is confirmed you are slow. So let me get down to elementary: we know dark matter/energy exists but we don't know it's true nature

You are the retar.ded one
We know dark matter exist and we have fact to prove it.
Can you prove reality exist, have you experienced it to know?

In your first statement you said “ everything in our reality is an assumption” so prove the reality that’s not an assumption.

PoliteActivist:
In our reality as we experience it, things don't pop out of no where. Things may always exist but they don't arrange themselves such that a delicious pot of soup cooks itself by by chance

Which other reality have you experienced?

“Things may always exist” Are you now saying that a soup can cook itself?

PoliteActivist:
Stop pretending you are an idiot.
REALITY EXISTS!!!!
We just have no way of knowing it's true nature!!!!!!

Stop being a fool.
If you don’t know something true nature, how did you know it exist?
You must have experienced the “true nature” to be able to differentiate it from false.

Do you know if flying tortoise exist?

PoliteActivist:
Irrelevant. You just have to accept that the soup did not cook itself!

Whether you say “Was the universe always here or did it pop out of nowhere?” or “Was your favorite God always here or did it pop out of nowhere?”, it’s the same question.

What you said has no correlation.

Whether you say “Was the universe always here or did it pop out of nowhere?” or “Was your favorite God always here or did it pop out of nowhere?”, it’s the same question.

PoliteActivist:
AS WE EXPERIENCE IT!!!!!

Can't you read??!!

What does this mean? “ we have NO WAY of proving that reality exist as we experience it”

You that can read, answer.

PoliteActivist:
Take your pick. As long as you accept that a pot of soup cannot cook itself by accident. That our reality, as we perceive it, does not work that way

A pot of soup can be cooked by more than 20 people.
Then we need to ask, who created the pot? Who created the ingredients, who taught them how to cook? who created the fire they used?etc

PoliteActivist:
So that there is equivalent to saying reality does not exist? You sure u ok?

What does this mean? “ we have NO WAY of proving that reality exist as we experience it”

I’m ok, and you?

PoliteActivist:
Being sarcastic. You know full well I never said reality does not exist

“ we have NO WAY of proving that reality exist as we experience it”

PoliteActivist:
Great! Just don't go a step further and state there is no God.
Problem is those who keep demanding conclusive proofs when there are no conclusive proofs in our reality. All we have are assumptions and circumstantial proofs - which leads right back to a designer. Things are too well orchestrated and too just right to have been chance!

Which designer again? Thought you said “ everything in our reality is an assumption”, and reality doesn’t exist.”?

shortgun:
Not true.
Half knowledge emboldens the ignorant but zero knowledge puzzles the ignorant.

Between a student that didn't go to school and the student that dropped out of medical school..... which is more likely to claim to know how to perform a heart surgery?

Zero knowledge makes the ignorant assume and base his life on beliefs.
We all see how BELIEVERS claim to know something without proving it.
The ignorant person doesn’t know a thing about heart surgery, he just BELIEVES he can do heart surgery.

Between a student that didn't go to school and the student that dropped out of medical school..... which is more likely to be successful on the heart operation?
If they are the only people left on earth which will youask to perform a surgery on you?

coputa:
Almighty God has many attributes,not just that of love.Greeks are idle worshipers .

God is a title not a person. You talking about yahweh?
Israelite god worshippers are idle.

What made Zacchaeus a bad guy?

And according to what you posted, Zacchaeus seem like a good guy before meeting jesus, it shows you don’t need a deity or random books to know what’s right or wrong.
“Look, Lord, I give half of my goods to the poor; and if I have taken anything from anyone by false accusation, I restore fourfold.”

shortgun:
It's not, half knowledge is risky......
think of it as a student who dropped out from medical school in year 2 performing heart surgery.

Having no knowledge is riskier.

Think of it as a student that didn’t go to school but want to perform heart surgery and all he has is Belief.

coputa:
Is God of love and Love of God possible.

god of love seems like a deity that specialises in love.
In greek religion, Eros is the god of love.

Love of gods is self explanatory.

Written by anonymous, until the Catholic named it after john, so as the rest of the books that forms “New Testament”.

Y’all may not like Catholic church, but without them there won’t be Christianity today.

coputa:
Yes, they are intertwined,you may be afraid to break the laws and rules of whom you fear, ditto, You hardly offends whom you love., you show this love by keeping to his commandments,the fear came in because,there are implications and punishment attached.Its only the fear of man that doesn't last, because he's a mortal being

Love and fear won’t mix.

shortgun:
Everything written in that "old book" thousands of years ago is what your scientists are "discovering" today.
Just as it's written in the Bible "a fool says in his heart there's no God"

It's funny how you lots claim there's no God when you have limited knowledge about the world and how it works......you are yet to even explore 80% of the oceans for instance.
Do you draw conclusion based on limited knowledge about something?
A rational being will ponder over the numerous scientifically unexplainable events happening in the world and conclude that God exists!

Is it not better to draw conclusions on limited knowledge(20%) than to draw conclusions on zero knowledge but beliefs?

orisa37:
HE IS GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISHMAEL, ISAAC, EZAU AND JACOB.

And all of these people are found in which region?
He is the local god of that region.
That’s why he literally calls himself “god of the israelites”.

What makes up a blood?

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you have nothing to do with God in your religiosity.

Hope you know what a “monotheist” is?

Kobojunkie:
Actually, YHWH is attached to the agreement that God made with the Israelites in the Land of Canaan — the Constitution of the Nation of Israel. That Constitution did not exist nor was it referenced in scripture until after it was given to the people of Israel by Moses.

Moses mother is called Jochebed.
From the Hebrew name יוֹכֶבֶד (Yokheved) meaning "Yahweh is glory”.
YWHW tetragrammation of yahweh existed before moses was born.

god is an English word, the Christian god is called yahweh.
Jesus(originally joshua) means YWHW is salvation or YWHW saves, delivers.

All the books in the bible was written in different centuries and different people, it was through Canon that we have the bible now.

The worse thing a man can do for himself is to marry a single mother.