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DeepSight:
Okay then, fair enough: I think the point is settled here since you say "except in (the) hebrew bible and quran."

They are product of Judaism. Father of judaism is Abraham. And you are worshipping one of the Abrahamaic gods right?
The god you worship in islam is Hubal, you’ll know that if you know the etymology of Allah.

DeepSight:
I have since invited you to school me on it. I am happy to learn.

I have also pointed out severally that notwithstanding the etymology, various people can and in fact do have different attributes in mind.
This occurs even among the denominations of Christianity where you have Trinitarians and Non-Trinitarians.

The trinity was created by Tertulian during the Nicene council and has nothing do with etymology or you mean the etymology of the latin word “trinity”?
And not to forget Tertulian is a montanist
Allah and elohim mean same thing and they are sons to EL.
Etymology means ORIGIN of the word, people in their MIND can create opinions of that word but the fact and origin of that word remains unchanged.

DeepSight:
This is exactly why I said that same name or derived name does not mean same attributes.

They are semitic languages and they mean same thing except in hebrew bible and quran.

DeepSight:
Did you get my point that same name (or derived name) may not mean same attributes?

Did you get my point that you don’t know the etymology of Allah?

DeepSight:
I doubt this very much and I believe there has been much mistranslation involved. Interestingly, just yesterday I listened to a Professor of the Hebrew Language (who advised the Vatican for years on Hebrew Translations) on this very point - Elohim. He absolutely demonstrated that it does not refer to a single person.

I said in the hebrew bible that’s TANAKH, elohim is a single deity.
Allah is also gotten from hebrew language. But you said in quran he is a single deity.
Why are you cherry-picking when to use etymology?

DeepSight:
I will be glad to be educated on it.
PS: The extract you attached said nothing useful (unless I missed it and you may draw my attention to what therein specifically spoke to your point).

You don’t know the etymology of allah that’s why.
The god you worship in islam is called Hubal or Hubaal.
People worship allah before mohammed was born

DeepSight:
In Islam, yes.

In Hebrew bible, elohim is also a single deity.
Cherry Picking when to use etymology? Lol

DeepSight:
I doubt this but perhaps I should drop it since it begins to appear you are referring to something possibly even pre-Abrahamic.
PS: Elohim, I do not think ever referred to a single entity.

And allah refers to a single deity?

DeepSight:
I have to drop this since you are not speaking about Islam.
The way your post was, somehow I thought you were referring to Islam.

Nonetheless let me just say that I still believe you need to be careful with the etymology of names you are drawing up, especially if you understand that even where some people may deploy a particular name (Allah in this case), they yet have a completely different understanding of the attributes of the entity they have in mind.

Listen to your advice, you don’t even know the etymology of allah

DeepSight:
I think you need to be careful with the Zeus thing though, because Zeus being king of the Olympian gods is not said to be the origin of all other existence in the way that the Abrahamic god is presented or in the way that we understand the word "God" as the source of all existence. Indeed, in Greek mythology, Zeus had a father, who he killed and overthrew, thereby releasing his siblings from the fathers stomach. Zeus is also presented as a being full of mischief himself, and never tired of sexual adventures. There was also an entire set of beings which preceded the gods of Olympus, of which Zeus is just one.

Understand the context i was trying to make.
In Abramaic religion, both allah/elohim, yahweh, baal etc are sons to EL

DeepSight:
Kindly refer me to the Sura and verse, I have a Quoran right here, let me look it up

First look up the origin of the word allah!

TheElated177:
Chai! I have been discussing with an underage energy vampire. No wonder! Don't worry, it will continue to be a case of "i ga inyụ anyụ zọrọ zọrọ".

So Scriptures are writings, huh? How is it that you have been boldly and shamelessly copying and pasting the writings of others? How is it that you rely totally on the summations and conjectures of others like your life depends on them.

Do you really think that those things you lift from Wikipedia can make a single dent on what I have felt, seen and tasted and confirmed to be true? Ihe efu! Ihe iberibe!

You can only sway the ignoramuses with your meaningless rants.

See small boy Yahweh, your savior and your god.

DeepSight:
Well that is not the Islamic conception of God.

Allah existed before islam was created. And if you look in the Quran, it’s stated that allah has children
“Allah” is not even an arabic word.
And Allah and Elohim means same thing!
God is a title not a person.
The arabic god is called allah
The greek god is called zeus!

TheElated177:
Chai! I have been discussing with an underage energy vampire. No wonder! Don't worry, it will continue to be a case of "i ga inyụ anyụ zọrọ zọrọ".

So Scriptures are writings, huh? How is it that you have been boldly and shamelessly copying and pasting the writings of others? How is it that you rely totally on the summations and conjectures of others like your life depends on them.

Do you really think that those things you lift from Wikipedia can make a single dent on what I have felt, seen and tasted and confirmed to be true? Ihe efu! Ihe iberibe!

You can only sway the ignoramuses with your meaningless rants.

I know I’ve been discussing with indoctrinated sheep. You’ve been brainwashed you can’t do without middle east gods.

Have you also not been boldy and shamelessly copying, pasting and quoting the writings of others?
Or do you think moses wrote the torah?
Or you think mark wrote book of mark?
There’s alot you don’t know Chrestian.
What I’m posting is HISTORY gotten from research and ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE, It’s devoid of EMOTIONS.
You are relying on jewish scriptures. Quoting it because your live depends on it!
What do you know about JUDAISM which evolved from YAHWISM?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism

It is not only Wikipedia that’s talking about it, Yahweh of shasu tribe is EVERYWHERE, EVERYWHERE.

DeepSight:
I doubt this. Where do you get this from? This is one of the things Islam shouts most about against Christian ideas of "God the Son."

Allah existed before islam was created.
Have you forgotten Christianity and Islam are worshipping Abrahamaic gods?

TheElated177:
Mtcheeeeew!

Deuteronomy 32: 8 When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all mankind, he set up boundaries for the peoples according to the number of the sons of Israel. 9 For YAHVEH’s portion is his people, Jacob his allotted inheritance.

Who is the Most Host in verse?

After figuring that out, consider the following quotations:

Exodus 34: 13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles. 14 Do not worship any other god, for YHVH, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

Deuteronomy 16: 21 Do not set up any wooden Asherah pole beside the altar you build to YAHVEH your God, 22 and do not erect a sacred stone, for these YAHVEH your God hates.

Look at yahweh father that gave him IsraEL.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)

TheElated177:
Mtcheeeeew!

Deuteronomy 32: 8 When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all mankind, he set up boundaries for the peoples according to the number of the sons of Israel. 9 For YAHVEH’s portion is his people, Jacob his allotted inheritance.

Who is the Most Host in verse?

After figuring that out, consider the following quotations:

Exodus 34: 13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles. 14 Do not worship any other god, for YHVH, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

Deuteronomy 16: 21 Do not set up any wooden Asherah pole beside the altar you build to YAHVEH your God, 22 and do not erect a sacred stone, for these YAHVEH your God hates.

Asheerah was yahweh mother, but she later became yahweh consort. Yahweh na bad guy
Jealous Yahweh and his asheera
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuntillet_Ajrud_inscriptions

TheElated177:
Mtcheeeeew!

Deuteronomy 32: 8 When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all mankind, he set up boundaries for the peoples according to the number of the sons of Israel. 9 For YAHVEH’s portion is his people, Jacob his allotted inheritance.

Who is the Most Host in verse?

After figuring that out, consider the following quotations:

Exodus 34: 13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles. 14 Do not worship any other god, for YHVH, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

Deuteronomy 16: 21 Do not set up any wooden Asherah pole beside the altar you build to YAHVEH your God, 22 and do not erect a sacred stone, for these YAHVEH your God hates.

The tanakh was not written in English. The version you have now is gotten from the edited masoteric text, you probably don’t know what that means.

EL is the one that gave israEL to yahweh as Inheritance, that’s why Yahweh is only the god of israelite helping to fight other kingdoms, yahweh was conquered by the moab god though .

TheElated177:
Is whatever it is you are talking about within the premise of this thread?

I know that you are angered by the portion of the Scripture. Anyone who is going through this thread knows what it means and why I quoted it. You go vex tire.



My God, YAHVEH Almighty, is the Father of the spirits of all flesh. He is the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. There is no other.

However, if you disagree and still believe otherwise, all you have to is present your alternative.

Before you jump into a discussion like an illiterate don’t you need to understand and comprehend what they are talking about?

Angered by a jewish scripture?
You know what “scripture” means? That’s like saying, ”I’m angered by writings”

The parents of small boy Yahweh is El and asheera.
Your god yahweh is nothing but a jealous cannanite god, keep worshipping middle east gods!

The tanakh you are quoting is for Israelite of course they will make their deity look good.

ChristEternal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF2uiCBhOXs
THE BLUE FEVER PLAGUE JUDGMENT
On the 5th day of July 2017, the word of The Lord came to me saying; “Blue Fever Plague.” I inquired of The Lord about what He meant. And The Lord said: “The Blue fever plague will affect people, mutate,

Over hundred people die of malaria everyday in Nigeria, have you heard the solution from your god or your god is less concerned about matters like that?

TheElated177:
Exodus 34: 13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles. 14 Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

Deuteronomy 16: 21 Do not set up any wooden Asherah pole beside the altar you build to YAHVEH your God, 22 and do not erect a sacred stone, for these YAHVEH your God hates.

The Tanakh you are quoting is for the Israelite, Yahweh is the god of israelite which was given to him by his parents El and Asheera.
Yahweh is a jealous deity EXACTLY

TheElated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

You sure love middle east gods, don’t you, Yahweh worshipper?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)

TheElated177:
It doesn't matter who you were talking to. This is an open forum and every post is open to everyone who wants to respond to it. Is what you are discussing with the other guy within the premise of the thread?

To the particular portion of the Scripture that you have been yapping about like a broken record, I responded with the one below. You couldn't comprehend it because you want everything explain to you. Here it is, again:

Isaiah 19:21

KJV: whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, “Blessed be Egypt My people, and Assyria the work of My hands, and Israel Mine inheritance.”

AMP: whom the Lord of hosts has blessed, saying, “Blessed is Egypt My people, and Assyria the work of My hands, and Israel My heritage.”

NIV: The Lord Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.


Mr copy and paste.

Before you jump into a discussion like an illiterate don’t you need to understand and comprehend what they are talking about?

Dumb Chrestian, the tanakh verses you are quoting has nothing to do with what i was discussing with him.


Indoctrinated Sheep, keep worshipping middle east gods

Should we practice Democracy or not?

AntiChristian:
Not even January 1 it's technically from December 25 to January 1 + Saturdays and Sundays!

We are talking about the “Christian new year” when is it?

The fact about yahweh of shasu tribe is everywhere.

Slayar:
I just laugh at all these brain-washed guys that think they're woke .Just because you do not understand something doesn't mean its wrong or does not exist.

And what about the indoctrinated ones that think they understand it but they don’t.
They are even the worse.

Templee333:
I can't read screenshots,my device doesn't suport it,u can type it out pls

No worry bro.
Continue

Religion ooo

Jesus is the same as angel michael according to yaldaboath worshippers in the watchtower

HedwigesMaduro:
Let me explain it this way; who you call Olorun depends on what you believe, because it is a title, not a name. It's like saying "landlord". That depends on whose house a tenant lives in. For instance (as per Olorun having children), the "God" in Islam says he doesn't have any child, the God in Christianity has a Son. Now, when a Muslim or a Christian talk about "God", it depends on their belief system.

You lack understanding of what you are explaining.
To begin with,”God” is a title not a person.
I sent you a screenshot of olorun and olokun and you are still making the same blunders.
The god in islam is called Allah, and he has children.
The god in Hebrew bible is Yahweh and he is very different from allah or olorun.

In Yoruba mythology, olorun and olokun are Deities(ORISHAS), also it wasn’t olorun or olokun that created humans and earth in yoruba mythology.

In yoruba language, god means ORISHA not olorun or olokun!
Olorun is not same as yahweh or allah!
Olorun is not a Israelite god or arabic god

Zeus is the god of the heaven in greek mythology, is zeus and olorun or Yahweh the same?
Since you said “Olorun means owner of the heavens. It's a title, not a name. It means God.”
Zeus literally also means “owner of the heavens”

HedwigesMaduro:
Olorun means "owner of the heavens". It's a title, not a name. It means God. Olokun is also a title that means "owner or king of the seas".

Olokun and olorun are the 2 superior deities in yoruba mythology. One rules over sky, another over water!
They are mythological figures
And hope you know that olorun and olokun have children in yoruba mythology!