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budaatum:
I have already bought the boo, many copies, in fact, since there are various edits to consider. I've even read it a couple of times too, and as you can see, it does clearly say Holy Bible on the cover.

As for the meaning of the title, the Holy is supposed to make one revere it and accept it as the book of their god. But as I said. I am reading a book that just happens to be called Holy Bible by some. I got copies I use as a doorstop.

You brought the book out of ignorance. You don’t know what “holy” means and you don’t know what “bible” means. Revere to which god? Was it not your first time reading it?
You are Sha reading “holy bible”
Bud bud

budaatum:
No it isn't, May. No Christian reads a collection of books that is only the New Testament. That's why Christians tend or are supposed to to adhere to the ten commandments found in the Tanakh and that God created the heaven and the earth and every thing in it in 6 days and then rested. They get that from the part of the book that they read which is a translation of the Tanakh since no God was creating heaven and earth in the New Testament.

Bud “Collection of books” is an English word, we all read “collections of books” everyday, chrestians or not. Do you mean “Chrestian collection of books”. You need to calm down.
Christians are also taught trinity which is not present in the tanakh and even in the New Testament.

The tanakh is the whole jewish book, the 10 commandments is found in the torah not tanakh.

And all what you stated is also in the “holy quran” only if your ignorant self has read it.

That’s why I’m asking if you don’t know where jesus Chrestus evolve from just ask and don’t assume ignorantly

budaatum:
So, we agree it is there, right?.Now, I then went to the shop to buy the book that the "designer of the books in the factory" put that there and I am reading it.

Picture below again so you don't miss it.

You are not making sense and trying too hard.
Why are you intentionally all going dumb?

You are going to buy book and you don’t know what “holy” and “bible” means?

The picture you are showing is just showing how low you can go, send an article talking about “holy bible” bwahahahah
Bud oooo

budaatum:
First, the Christian book is called the Bible or Holy Bible, and it includes the New Testament and the Old Testament. You'd understand better if you consider I am reading an English translation of the Bible, and as you can very clearly see with your very own eyes, it says Holy Bible on the cover.

The Jews do not call any book that contains the New Testament the TANAKH.

Wrong the Christian book is called New Testament.
Bible literally means book.
You’ll know that if you have knowledge on what you are saying.

Tanakh is an hebrew word which means jewish bible, Chrestians call it Old Testament. Which Christian will call Old Testament same as New Testament?
The first New Testament is called codex sinaitucus not “holy bible”

budaatum:
I guess there's an example of evolution for you because that same book is now commonly referred to as Holy Bible as you can see clearly on the cover of the image I just posted for you to see.

That’s because you are ignorant and lack knowledge of what you are talking about.
Bible literally means book.
The Christian book is called the NEW TESTAMENT.
“Holy” and “bible” are English words, greeks would call it another thing in their language , same way jews call it tanakh which means Jewish books and it’s “wholly and a book” to them.

Read slowly
A collection of books is not called “bible”. BIBLE LITERALLY MEANS COLLECTION OF BOOKS!
The Christian book is simply called THE NEW TESTAMENT.

budaatum:
Yes, I am reading a specific collection of books commonly known as the Bible and the Holy Bible and which contains a translation of the Tanakh, which itself is a collection of books, and the writings of the early church fathers which is another collection of books that has been appended to prior collection of books that are translations of the Tanakh.

Below are images of books called the Holy Quran and the Holy Bible that you claim "There’s nothing like".

Is this how low you can go?
Bud, them calling it “holy” is a reverence, and it’s their book, what do you expect?.
See how you thinking too low?

Why don’t you bring out an article talking about “holy bible” and “holy quran”.
It’s the designer of the books in the factory that put that there.

Bible LITERALLY means BOOKS OR COLLECTION OF BOOKS, Which originate from A GREEK Word.

Read slowly
A collection of books is not called “bible”. BIBLE LITERALLY MEANS COLLECTION OF BOOKS!
The Christian book is simply called THE NEW TESTAMENT.

budaatum:
Maybe Google "Holy Bible" before you make crap up.



Try reading it very very slowly. You might get what I said.

No jew will accept the Chrestian NEW TESTAMENT as TANAKH.


So long as you accept that the particular BIBLE we are currently refering to "contains the New Testament and Tanakh" which is what I'm reading, I'm good.



Read very slowly please. You might get it.

There is no Tanakh inside New Testament.

There is no Tanakh in the Qur'an.

There is Tanakh in the Christian Bible.

Early church fathers are greeks not English. They didn’t call the book “Christian holy bible”.
The first New Testament was called sinaiticus not “holy bible” lol

budaatum:
Maybe Google "Holy Bible" before you make crap up.



Try reading it very very slowly. You might get what I said.

No jew will accept the Chrestian NEW TESTAMENT as TANAKH.


So long as you accept that the particular BIBLE we are currently refering to "contains the New Testament and Tanakh" which is what I'm reading, I'm good.



Read very slowly please. You might get it.

There is no Tanakh inside New Testament.

There is no Tanakh in the Qur'an.

There is Tanakh in the Christian Bible.

Maybe you should google “holy bible”
And bring out exactly “holy bible”, ignorant Bud.

I’ll also google “holy quran” bwahahahah
I know comprehension is not your forte but try.

Bud, No jew will accept the Chrestian NEW TESTAMENT as TANAKH. You keep making the same blunder.
To the English Chrestian tanakh(an hebrew word) will be translated to english language as Jewish bible or Old Testament and it will be called “holy bible”

The particular bible you are reading is a collection of tanakh and Christian book.

Try reading it very slowly. You might cure some of your ignorance .

Bible LITERALLY MEANS BOOKS OR COLLECTION OF BOOKS.

There’s nothing like “holy bible” but bible and nothing like “holy quran” but quran.

Holy literally means WHOLLY(complete/whole)

“Christian holy bible” means Christian Collection of books

The Christian book created by the church fathers is called New Testament and the earliest book was called “Sinaiticus”

You are reading a bible which literally means COLLECTION OF BOOKS!
Now which books are collected inside?

There’s nothing like “holy bible” we HAVE BIBLE.

budaatum:
May, read very very slowly. No jew will accept the Chrestian NEW TESTAMENT as TANAKH.

I hope we are now clear.



To English Christians, the Tanakh is never ever called the Holy Bible, May. They specifically call the Tanakh part the Old Testament, and the Old Testament is only a part of the Christian Bible.

Christain Bibles always include the additions of those you referred to as Church Fathers, May.


But I have picked up the Qur'an and I have read it and I found no Tanakh in it, which is why I am asking you to show me where and how you found the Tanakh in your own Qur'an.


The Qur'an does not only differ by names of books may. You'd know this if you were not making up crap to believe.

Bud, I know it’s hard but read slowly.
Bud, No jew will accept the Chrestian NEW TESTAMENT as TANAKH. You keep making the same blunder.
To the English Chrestian tanakh(an hebrew word) will be translated to english language as Jewish bible or Old Testament and it will be called “holy bible”
There’s nothing like “holy bible”. We have BIBLE that contains the New Testament and Tanakh.
The early church fathers that you know nothing about call “holy bible” books in their LANGUAGES. And they named the first book “sinaicitus” followed by codex vaticanus
The New Testament is specifically also never ever called “holy bible” by the Christians even though that’s what they only created.
The first New Testament that was created wasn’t call “Holy bible” they don’t speak English. It was called sinaiticus codex.

If you’ve read the quran any litle bit you won’t be making this unintelligent assumption when Christian and Muslim both worships Abrahamaic god. And you not looking for “tanakh” inside. There’s no tanakh inside New Testament..
Ignorant bud.

budaatum:
I know you can't read or you wouldn't be repeating what I said.




I don't need to ask Muslims when I can pick up a Qur'an and read it myself, may.

Does the Qur'an contain the Tanakh or not?

Name the books that are in the Qur'an and the Tanakh please.

I know you lack comprehension of what i am saying and just want to TALK.
Read slowly..
Bud, No jew will accept the Chrestian NEW TESTAMENT as TANAKH. You keep making the same blunder.
To the English Chrestian “TANAKH”(an hebrew word) will be translated to english language as Jewish bible or Old Testament and it will be called “holy bible”

Bud, why don’t you pick up the quran and find out yourself? Listen to your advice.

The name of books in the tanakh are also different from ones in Old Testament.

budaatum:
And I'm absolutely certain no "English Chrestians" would ever call the Tanakh their Holy Bible, or would they May? And no Jew would accept the Christain Holy Bible as their Tanakh neither. But correct me if I am wrong.


You might want to ask someone who's actually read the Qur'an so they can tell you if it contains the Tanakh or not instead of ignorantly making stuff up to believe because there is no Tanakh in the Qur'an may, even though many ideas in the Qur'an did evolve out of Yahweh worship as depicted in the Tanakh.

Bud, No jew will accept the Chrestian NEW TESTAMENT as TANAKH. You keep making the same blunder.
To the English Chrestian tanakh(an hebrew word) will be translated to english language as Jewish bible or Old Testament and it will be called “holy bible”

You are the one bud that should go and ask Muslims if it contains the tanakh or not, or even read it and stop assuming ignorantly that I’m making stuff up.

You keep showing your ignorance. Mention the ideas that evolve from yahweh, the Israelite god to quran?

budaatum:
First, I am not shouting. Second. I am reading a book. And third. I do know the type of book I am reading. I am reading a book that was verbally transmitted for centurys and then went through numerous rewrites, redacts, additions, translations, syncretism, omissions, etc etc, etc, etc and is today called the Holy Bible and includes the Old Testament and the New Testament.

Only a dumb person will say he is reading a book without specifying which book.
The collection of books you are reading contains tanakh and New Testament.
If you don’t know where iesus chrestus originate from, just ask and stop assuming ignorantly, Bud.

budaatum:
Thankfully, buda is not reading the Tanakh but the Christian Holy Bible.

The version of the New Testament you call “Christian holy bible” is gotten from MASOTERIC TEXT.
You don’t even know the “demoninatons” they are talking about you are just too desperate for anything. Haba

budaatum:
Thankfully, buda is not reading the Tanakh but the Christian Holy Bible.

Ignorant Bud doesn’t know that holy means complete and bible means book and they are all English words. A arabic or jewish person” won’t call it that.
Ignorant bud doesn’t know the book he is reading contains tanakh and New Testament.
Ignorant bud doesn’t know we have “holy quran” that also contains tanakh.

budaatum:
First, I am not shouting. Second. I am reading a book. And third. I do know the type of book I am reading. I am reading a book that was verbally transmitted for centurys and then went through numerous rewrites, redacts, additions, translations, syncretism, omissions, etc etc, etc, etc and is today called the Holy Bible and includes the Old Testament and the New Testament.

It’s called the “holy bible” among English Chrestians.
English Muslims also calls theirs “holy Quran “ and it contains Tanakh.

Ignorant bud

budaatum:
Why would I ask you who doesn't even realise gods evolve?

Says a person that has zero knowledge of what he is talking about.
Keep TALKING

budaatum:
Does the Masoretic text have nothing to do with the Tanakh May

And is the version of the “bible” that I am reading the Bible called the Tanakh or the Christain Bible which includes a Jesus Christ?

The masoteric text was used to write the tanakh, ignorant bud.
The version of the “collection of book” you are reading contains the tanakh and Christian book.
The tanakh hs nothing to do with “jesus Chrestus.


If you lack the knowledge of where jesus Chrestus evolve from just ask and don’t be assuming ignorantly.

budaatum:
Bible means book is why I am reading it May, instead of eating it, since Bible does not mean food, but the “holy bible” of the Jews is clearly not the Holy Bible I am reading since the Jews don't read the New Testament which is included in the Holy Bible that I am reading.

And I bet you many Jews do speak English, especially since they have shown an ability to not only speak foreign to them Greek but going as far as translating their “holy bible” into Greek too. If they can learn Greek I'm sure English wouldn't be that much of a problem for them.

Bible means book, a thinking person will know the type and kind of book he is reading and not just be shouting “I’m reading a book”, bud.
“Holy” means wholly
And “bible” means books.
Jews don’t speak English, tanakh means jewish book which is “wholly and a book”.

English is not their first language, why would a born bred jew would want to call “books” in other people’s language? It’s you that lacks the knowledge of what “holy bible” means.
There’s nothing like “holy bible”! Stop thinking slow.

If you don’t know where your iesus chrestus evolve from just ask and don’t be assuming ignorantly.

budaatum:
I never mentioned your iesus chrestus and there does not appear to be a iesus chrestus in the Bible I am reading unless you mean Jesus Christ, the one they wrote was tempted on a mountain by a satan who quoted from Deuteronomy which was translated form the Tanakh and was responded to in kind.

You are reading a VERSION of the “bible”, the earliest New Testament which is called SINAITICUS, it’s written in it, but you are ignorant.

The Old Testament in your “holy bible” is not precisely from Septuagint but from MASOTERIC TEXT.
You don’t know what you are talking about.

budaatum:
The Holy Bible. You may read here where it explains what it evolved from.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible

Ignorant bud bible means book.
Inside your “holy bible” for Chrestian we have tanakh and New Testament.
For the jews too, tanakh is also a “holy bible” but unfortunately they don’t speak English but hebrew.
It’s glaring

budaatum:
I thought you said Jesus of Nazareth was a construct too, or does when constructed make a difference? And how does the construction of Jesus differ from the construction of any god, I'd wonder

Anyway, hope you know the Jesus Christ mentioned in the Holy Bible? The one they wrote was crucified? The one whom many claim to be the Son of Yahweh? That's the Jesus I am talking about obviously, since it was not “men from Nazareth” whom they wrote was their Messiah or were crucified unless it is your claim the two thieves were messiahs from Nazareth too.

And obviously the idea of the New Testament is from the Old Testament, Septuagint to be precise, which is a translation of the Tanakh and which is extensively quoted in the New Testament and is why you insist I am reading the Tanakh that does not include a Jesus when I am actually reading a Bible that does include Jesus who is commonly known as the Son of the God Yahweh of the Tanakh. Those who accept Jesus even claim he was sent by Yahweh and they read the Yahweh book before their Jesus book, so I don't see how you can fail to see how one evolved from the other, though your difficulty in reading might explain it.

Just reading the Tanakh shows the evolution of the God it mentions, from a provincial war God of a tiny insignificant tribe to a universal god of at least half the world.

Bud don’t be desperate.
If you don’t know where iesus chrestus evolve from don’t be assuming ignorantly.
Bible means book, which book are you reading, bud?

The “holy bible” is divided into 2 parts, tanakh and New Testament.
New Testament was created by Chrestians and has nothing to do with tanakh.

The New Testament is not from “Septuagint to be precise” but from MASOTERIC TEXT.
You are ignorant..

budaatum:
"Evolve more", May? Is that why the Holy Bible includes a book about "mithras Chrestus" instead of one about Yahweh?

Is the Jesus in the Holy Bible referred to as the Son of Mithras too, or the Son of Yahweh?

There’s nothing like “holy bible” bud.
Bible means book. We have Christian book and Jewish book”
We have “holy quran” too. And Quran also contains tanakh.

She will never get a man like that again to marry him, but that man can get as many and more beautiful her, lol

budaatum:
I guess Christianity has nothing to do with the Judaic Bible neither, right? As in, the early church fathers did not tack their testament to anything to do with Judaism, which makes me wonder why you'd insist I was reading a book about the God of Israel when I am reading the Christian Bible.

Hope you know that “jesus Chrestus” is different from “jesus of nazareth”, anytime you see “jesus of nazareth” in the New Testament it simply means “men from Nazareth”. That’s because “jesus Chrestus” is medieval construct.
Tell me which one evolve from yahweh? Jesus Chrestus or Jesus of Nazareth?


Where did the early church father get the idea of New Testament from?
P.S, surely not from tanakh

budaatum:
You obviously can not read!

You obviously lack knowledge of what you are saying!
Your iesus chrestus evolve more from mithras Chrestus

budaatum:
I guess Christianity has nothing to do with the Judaic Bible neither, right? As in, the early church fathers did not tack their testament to anything to do with Judaism, which makes me wonder why you'd insist I was reading a book about the God of Israel when I am reading the Christian Bible.

That’s because you are ignorant. You were quoting the torah part of the tanakh then.
Who are the early church fathers?
When was New Testament written? When was tanakh written?
Who were the first Chrestian?

You are ignorant and it’s glaring.

budaatum:
Where did you read me say Jesus is referred to as the Holy Spirit, or that Christians have to tell me anything?


I suggest you go and learn to read.

You lack knowledge of what’s inside the bible and the origin.
Who created trinity what century?
Which era was the previous Trinity?.
You just want to TALK


IF YOU LACK KNOWLEDGE OF HOW IESUS CHRESTUS EVOLVE JUST SAY IT AND DONT BE ASSUMING IGNORANTLY.

budaatum:
Go read all you've been posting. You'd see how your yahweh of shasu tribe evolved into Yahweh of the Israelites and into Jesus Christ and even further on to become what Christains refer to as the Holy Spirit, hence the triune God called the Trinity, which is a throwback to trinities of previous eras.

It's precisely why Christains of today do not worship only Yahweh, but I guess you'd also not accept that Christianity evolved out of Judaism despite the fact they tacked their book to the Judaic book.

Which Christian told you, Jesus Christ is referred to as holy spirit. Stop being desperate, disgracing yourself and do the actual learning!
“Trinity” of previous era, WHERE?
man just want to TALK BWAHAHHAHA

budaatum:
Go read all you've been posting. You'd see how your yahweh of shasu tribe evolved into Yahweh of the Israelites and into Jesus Christ and even further on to become what Christains refer to as the Holy Spirit, hence the triune God called the Trinity, which is a throwback to trinities of previous eras.

It's precisely why Christains of today do not worship only Yahweh, but I guess you'd also not accept that Christianity evolved out of Judaism despite the fact they tacked their book to the Judaic book.

Stop being ignorant, there’s nothing in Judaism that evolve to jesus chrestus.
If you lack knowledge on how iesus Chrestus evolve just say it and don’t be assuming ignorantly.
Olodo.
You lack knowledge of what’s inside the bible and the origin of it.

CHRISTIANITY DIDNT EVOLVE FROM JUDAISM, maybe you mean NICENE CHRISTIANITY, which is just a SECT out of others in CHRISTIANITY.
You are ignorant and it’s glaring.

budaatum:
I guess it would be beyond your level of comprehension for you to see how the Created Trinity ideology of Jesus was built on the foundation of Yahweh and I can't show you what you can't see.

If you lack knowledge on how iesus chretus evolve just say it, than just assuming ignorantly.
I didn’t know you were this POOR!

budaatum:
I guess it would be beyond your level of comprehension for you to see how the Created Trinity ideology of Jesus was built on the foundation of Yahweh and I can't show you what you can't see.

Says the ignorant bud, that lacks knowledge of what he is saying.
When was trinity created? Who created it?
Does Judaism have anything like “trinity”
“Trinity” is only found in a SECT in Christianity, we have other SECTS that rejects it and have their own doctrine.

You are ignorant and I’m here to expose it

Practice makes Better. Be responsible for yourself and not continue hoping on sky daddy.