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MaxInDHouse:
No wahala, whatever you and i are discussing presently is based on what we were told!
So keep yours while i keep mine!

Knowledge deals with what is
Ignorance deals with what is not.
If what you are told doesn’t fall in one of these categories, then it’s a belief, it’s between knowledge and ignorance but it’s not knowledge or ignorance.
The picture of the mad woman you posted, how did you know she was mad? It could have been a scene in a movie and they quickly took a picture to portray another narrative but since you didn’t verify yourself, you simply BELIEVED what the eye witness told you.
Also, Find out the history of the religion you were tied to,you abusing your fore fathers religion because of the foreign Christian religion that was established thousand of years after a supposed Jesus died is crass. And hope you know it’s Jesus the Christ and not Jesus Christ, Christ is a title just like God.

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala so keep what you know while i keep mine!

Keep your belief, I’ll keep my knowledge.

MaxInDHouse:
So what is the bases for your so called judgment if you don't believe what you read in books?
Now we're getting somewhere!

Yes I don’t believe in the book, knowledge is different from belief right?
I know the book, I don’t believe it, the same way you believed what the eye witness told you without checking and confirming yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
So why asking for the source of the info i'm passing to you since you feel KNOWLEDGE is not what you were told?
[/b]Didn't some people wrote the information that you're demanding?[b]

Did you know that or you believe that.?

You don’t even know what knowledge is, so it’s understandable. You only know a part of it that your eye witnesses told you, a part of knowledge is not same as knowledge but it’s LIKE knowledge.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ calm down and learn!
Have you seen Abraham before or you read about him in books and TRUSTED (BELIEVED) the source of such info?
So going by your own logic you don't KNOW anything except the things you have seen with your own eyes, everything else you BELIEVED through the words of those who told you or penned it down.
So first admit that you've goofed so much by that statement otherwise there's no need showing you anything after all whatever i will show you (including what was written in the Bible) never happened in our presence so it won't change anything since you don't want to BELIEVE (TRUST) what you can't verify!

It’s just a myth in book, like the stories in an Harry Potter book, I don’t believe the book I’m only judging the character in it, and how did you know the book is from trusted source? Did you know that or you believe that?
Your only knowledge comes from what people say right? Just like the eye witness told you about the mad woman.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you now agree that KNOWLEDGE in not all about what you must see for verification but in most cases things you read and TRUSTED (BELIEVED) the source of such info?
Ọmọ calm down and learn!

[/b]Knowledge is not about what you see for verification but about what you read, you read with your nose?[b] Contradicting yourself in the same sentence.
You don’t need to trust any source, knowledge doesn’t deal with that, that’s why I said earlier you don’t know what knowledge is.
Can an object of knowledge be the same as the object of believe? Man you are trying too hard.

MaxInDHouse:
My friend, why are you this pained even to the point of responding to a post that's not meant for you?
Please this is not a thug of war o!
You and i are just having a friendly chat about what we both KNOW even though you keep saying it's BELIEVE but i wonder how you can confidently say [/b]you KNOW what you're typing when everything is just what you heard or read in books![b]

So relax and let's reason intelligently!

Is that not the same for you, you are quoting the books of other religions, you believe that the mad woman is not carrying anything worthwhile after you were told by the eye witness, that’s not knowledge.
You are not reasoning intelligently, show me the evidence of all what you are saying, dismantle it for all to see like the mad woman did.

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're asking thought provoking questions so calm down and learn!

Question 1
There were scribes among the Levites in Israel, they were assigned to copy the scriptures with hands so as to make it many for whoever wants a copy. It was after their return from exile that several political groups were formed, the Pharisees started a Rabbinic school so it's only those who pass through that school that are viewed as knowledgeable among the Jews, but Herod Antipas (who doesn't want to be part of those submitting to those self appointed religious rulers) supported their rival group known as Sadducees. These two groups formed the Jewish high court known as the Sanhedrin. During Moses's time God told the Levites that it's after the death of a High priest that another should be appointed but in Judaism it's the Roman empire that chooses or demote the Jewish High priests to make sure they're keeping the Jewish community in order. So what later became the setting in Judea during the first century is totally different from what God instituted during the days of Moses!

Question 2
Abraham was God's friend and God made a covenant with him but this covenant will be firmly established with Abraham's descendants that's why we can't basically say God established a form of religion with Abraham. Abraham had eight sons in his life Ishmael (born to him by a slave girl) Isaac by his first wife Sarah, and six other sons through Keturah the last wife Abraham later married after the death of Sarah. God transferred the covenant to only Isaac out of the eight sons.
Isaac also had two sons through Rebecca (Esau and Jacob) but God transferred the covenant to Jacob and it was 400 years later after the children of Jacob (Israel) were freed from Egypt that God established the covenant fully with Jacob's descendants.
So what happens to the rest of Abraham's seven sons? God emphatically told Abraham that the covenant will not include other sons of Abraham but only Isaac! Genesis 17:18-21
That's why we can't say a religion was established with Abraham because the rest of his sons never worshiped Jehovah.

Isaac's two sons also parted and God continued with Jacob so the descendants of Esau weren't worshipers of Jehovah!

These are noise, kindly show me where you read that Pharisee created Judaism, it’s not complex unless you are lying, and you are still quoting the tanakh that’s meant for Judaism, why are you quoting their book? It was not written by Christians. Earlier you lied that your god didn’t make any covenant with Abraham, you can’t keep up with the lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!
What a blessing this is my God? So you are also one of the fans of MaxInDHouse on this forum and i never knew this moniker!

Thanks for the compliment, i really love to see people appreciate good qualities in Christians but try to voice out next time when you're eyeing someone on a faceless forum like this, we chat to discuss what we KNOW so we can talk about solutions to problems affecting mankind.
Once again thanks for showing appreciation for my post, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

You were badly expose, you did a bad job yesterday, Pharisees like Abraham and Moses created Judaism right?

MaxInDHouse:
Good morning my guy, how was your night?

I can see how painful it is when you're trying to argue with a real Christian just to push forward your opinion but it's just a pity that the truth has something vital that lies don't have.
The truth WORKS out BENEFITS while lies will just remain in books and the heads of those carrying it up and down! James 2:18-26

A real Christian that’s lying so blatantly, you don’t know what truth is, you only know a part of it that’s taught in your religion and that’s not same as truth, but it’s LIKE truth. Pharisees created Judaism after they came back from exile right? The Jewish god didn’t make any covenant with Abraham?
Everything you know about that madwomen were told to you by eye witness, that’s not knowledge that’s belief.

Puremind1225:
All these talks about topics like this are just mere occupation while time passes,
None of us has seen God before

God is a title, some have seen Zeus, Jehovah and eledumare before. We have statues of them..

LottiOk:
Guy u 10much, just see how u rubbished him & he ran away with his Bible tucked in his armpit So maxindhouse can b silenced like dis @Maynman dis smackdown u give am really sweet my belly. Thanks

Lol naso, the guy lies are too intentional. Why is he putting himself through that pain? Just to save his god face.

MaxInDHouse:
I have given you the KEY to true KNOWLEDGE my guy, it's not arguable because you will see it working out BENEFITS while lies will only remain in books without any positive results.

Good night my friend!

How can you know the key to knowledge when you don’t know what knowledge is, you’ll just pick a key and believe it is key of knowledge,
Goodnight believer, your lies are too much, Pharisees created Judaism indeed, Judaism was created after they came back from exile, that’s when Pharisees created it? Abraham and Moses also come back with them from exile. Lol

MaxInDHouse:
[/b]When did God instituted a religion having rules with Abraham?[b]
[/b]Guy, was it not after the nation has been brought out of Egypt that God established a covenant with the entire nation and gave them His laws? Exodus 19:3-6[b]

My friend, you still have a long way to go but if you want to learn you need to humbly relax, do more of listening than arguing because their are lots and lots of secrets you can't find on Wikipedia, for your information Wikipedia is the handiwork of religionists and it's what they want you to know that you will find in it.
The only way to ascertain it's authenticity is by looking out for the BENEFITS of what they told you. If it's not the truth it will only be like the load on the head of that madwoman there will not be any benefits in it! James 2:18-26

Your god didn’t MAKE any convenant with Abraham, it was after they came from exile? He was just whining Abraham right? And you are still quoting the book meant for Pharisees as you said.
You should listen to your own advice, fabricating lies. Nawa ooo
From the orthodox Bible they removed book of Abraham maybe that’s why you don’t know.
Before you know that there was no benefit on that mad woman load, did you merely listen to what you were told by the eye witness?

MaxInDHouse:
Obviously this moniker belongs to MindHacker but i will deliver the message before leaving you!

Genesis to Malachi belongs to the entire nation of Israel but because the temple was built in Jerusalem and there was a dividing of the nation into two parts (ten northern tribes became Samaritans while the remaining two tribes of the south were called Jews) the Samaritans disagreed with the Jews from coming to worship in the Jerusalem temple {John 4:20} that's what caused the confusion till today.
But the Bible belongs to the entire twelve tribes of Israel not only the Jews Sir!

And where did you get this? lol
Judaism is a religion not a temple, darn religion

You believe I’m mind hacker or whatever, but you don’t know. Knowledge is different from belief.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy, calm down and learn!

I said Judaism was instituted after the Jews returned from exile, Judaists weren't practicing what Abraham and Moses believed that's why Jesus could say to their religious leaders:

“If you were Abraham’s children, you would be doing the works of Abraham. But now you are seeking to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. John 8:39-40

Even John the baptist who baptized Jesus told those religious leaders:

When he caught sight of many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to the baptism, he said to them: “You offspring of vipers, who has warned you to flee from the coming wrath? Therefore, produce fruit that befits repentance. Do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children for Abraham from these stones.  The ax is already lying at the root of the trees. Every tree, then, that does not produce fine fruit is to be cut down and thrown into the fire Matthew 3:7-10


So learn my friend, Judaism wasn't the religion Moses instituted when the Israelites left Egypt.

For your information, Judaism is practiced by just a fraction of Israel, only two tribes out of 12 were captured by those political religionists called "judaists" the remaining ten tribes of Israel in the north called Samaritans never practiced Judaism!

You said Judaism was set up/created by Pharisees.
For my information and you can’t tell me where you get this information?
Abraham is the founded of Judaism, why do you lie to yourself this much on a belief?

MaxInDHouse:
Are you ready to learn now?

What the God this people claim they're worshiping says has exposed them as hypocrites and liars.
According to God's word after the Messiah has come to counsel the Israelites, the Israelites will take his counsel to the extremity of the earth so as to gather lovers of Peace globally.
It's God's word that they will be using as their guide and they will settle all the racial disparities causing wars amongst those who don't know the true God, they will divert their resources into the production of food and information materials, they will forgo military services and vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

There is no organized Jewish religion fulfilling this prophecy today while Jehovah's Witnesses have successfully gathered people in millions throughout the earth and all what is written in that prophecy they're fulfilling globally!

So what is the evidence that those rebellious Jews still have any business with the God who made such promises?

All these are hearsay, I mean show me where you got that Pharisees created Judaism, and Jesus didn’t worship Judaism. And you are still quoting the Old Testament that you said was meant for Pharisees? Why are you quoting their book?

MaxInDHouse:
This is why many like you keep arguing blindly even with evidence right before your eyes!

I told you where Judaism came from and also ask you a question pointing to an indisputable fact.
Jesus kept criticizing Judaism so how on earth do you believe that he was a Judaist?

Fact or opinion ? You told me a lie.. show me where you saw this fact from. It shouldn’t be hard? You haven’t shown me one evidence.
Just like the mad woman you were saying, don’t you need to dismantle it and show me for me to know and not just believe?
Jesus criticized Moses and Abraham , pillars of Judaism? Show me

MaxInDHouse:
There are many claiming worshipers of JEHOVAH, millions of Jews across the globe are claiming they're worshipers of JEHOVAH but there is no practical benefits as proof of their claim. So they don't know what they're saying!

Where is your proof that’s there is no practical benefits?

MaxInDHouse:
That's the point!
If you can't present any practical BENEFITS how on earth do you expect any right thinking person to agree with you that you have the knowledge?

How can he agree with me when he doesn’t know what knowledge is to start with? What’s he agreeing and denying?

MaxInDHouse:
I told you that you must calm down to learn otherwise you will continue jumping into wrong conclusion instead of asking to know the truth!
Jesus never practiced Judaism!
Judaism is the set up by a reformed group called Pharisees, they changed so many things in God's law to soothe their selfish cravings and because Jesus disagreed with such setting they killed him.
So learn my friend, if Jesus was a Judaist then on what ground do the pioneers of Judaism plotted against him?

Where did you get all this? You must have read it somewhere, show me..
And why are you using the book meant for the Pharisees?
Abraham and Moses were Judaist.

MaxInDHouse:
KNOWLEDGE WORKS out great BENEFITS!

After you know what knowledge is. One after the other

MaxInDHouse:
I don't need it because i'm a shy person who don't like facing the crowd after escaping from stage shows as a musician.
But i've met some who talks about Max on NL i only smile and give Jehovah the glory because many of them wish to know me in person after learning so much from my comments!

Jehovah, son of Elohim. I see
That’s what you’ve been afraid to say since lol

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is your own PERSONAL opinion which you're entitled to.
[/b]Jews aren't the owners of the true God rather they're first to know His ways, but when they failed to walk in His ways He rejected them.[b]
But since you're not ready to learn you're entitled to your PERSONAL opinion!

I said Christianity not your god.
This is your own personal opinion too right?
Your Old Testament come from Judaism, shouldn’t you learn from the right source of where the book is from? Jesus was a Judaist when he was alive.
You yourself are not ready to learn, practice what you preach.

MaxInDHouse:
MaxInDHouse is becoming a household name on Nairaland!
More Nairalanders like you are opening threads and calling out MaxInDHouse as if i'm the only Bible believer!

There are so many believers of the Bible. They just believe, and we agree that knowledge is not same as belief but can be like it.

MaxInDHouse:
I listen to everyone but when your story is of no practical benefits i'll trash it!

Exactly, if the owners of the religion and the book are saying trash how then can the religion be of benefit?
Christianity comes from Judaism.

MaxInDHouse:
How do you verify who knows something when you will not listen?

Do you know a thing or you know some of it?

Hope you do listen to Judaist when they talk about their Old Testament ?

Dtruthspeaker:
My King is God and God is my King! You forget, hell is not yours and you are just a potential inmate!

Your god owns hell and has a special place in it. Understood.

Dtruthspeaker:
This is the only new thing all others have been treated.

I should not answer all your questions in one day, this is the last one for the day.

Following God's Judgements pattern, The Law and what the Bible said, Satan knew both good and evil and knew The Law.

[/b]God had a thing for First! Therefore, Satan was the first to use evil[b] Unlawfully, therefore by God's Law of an Eye for an eye, God Cursed him and The Law Changed him to become the-evil aka D'evil aka Devil.

And therefore, Satan became one of those who work evil. Which is why he needed man to eat the fruit of evil to access man's headquarters (the soul) to run his evil suicide plans from there.

Am gone!

Who gave satan the evil he used? Did he create it himself? Or he stole it from god? Or your god gave it to him intentionally?
The knowledge of good and evil did satan teach himself?
Your god is the creator of evil so how can someone else use it before him?
[/b]And you are also saying YOUR GOD IS NOT THE BEGINNING OF ALL THINGS. [b]
Who was the first to use good? Angel Gabriel?
Just contradicting yourself lol
Your god is an eye for an eye god? I thought it was a loving god? How can that kind of god create something beautiful?

MaxInDHouse:
You guys thought real Christians will tell you to BELIEVE what you don't know or understand but i never say such to you rather i keep emphasizing on KNOWLEDGE.
So like i said "you are entitled to your PERSONAL opinion!"

True Christians yet you don’t know the origin of your book, god and your religion, if it’s something concrete then it should not scare you.
knowledge deals with knowing, not knowing some of it or part of it, it deals with KNOWING ALL OF IT. So if your knowledge is only to know a part of something then we can’t call it same as knowledge, but it’s LIKE knowledge that’s why we have different doctrines that teaches only one particular of it and not ALL.

Dtruthspeaker:
When on Routine or Periodic or Special Facility Inspection Tour!

Yes, that’s your king function. Your god has a place in hell, some places in hell are cool as fu.c.k then lol

MaxInDHouse:
Guy go and talk to people about how you became a God that's not of any practical BENEFITS!

Busted again
Seeing and hearing is believing truly, mr believer.