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MaxInDHouse:
If you only READ it, you're not there so how do you expect me to agree with you after all you don't TRUST (BELIEVE) it you just READ it?

Why do you have to Believe a story? Why don’t you know it?
We watch movies, do you believe the stories and plots?

Show me where you read yours, why are you afraid?

[/b]You are worshiping William Tyndale.[b]

Dtruthspeaker:
What is a fact? That the jw Bible is the same as the kjv? Or

Is not the same? Or

Or you like the jw bible?

What is the Truth?



Don't care! Everyone can manufacture their own bible BUT EVERY KNOWS TRUTH WHEN THEY HEAR IT OR READ IT, save those who love lies!

I said the King James Bible was translated by a Jehovah witness using a special version from a specific dialect. Calm down and read.
The Jehovah witness is also the first one to use the word “Jehovah” which is foreign in Greek and Hebrew language that Bible was written.

Everyone knows truth when they hear it and read it?
What’s the sound of truth? What’s the handwriting of truth and color of truth.

And didn’t they say that seeing and hearing is believing, Believer?

Proverb 16:4.
The LORD has made everything for his own purposes, even the wicked for a day of disaster.

Dtruthspeaker:
Yep! Jw bible is a wish written fake bible for wish filled thinking persons.

It is not a wish, it’s a fact. Which version was the king James translated from?
Your fellow Jehovah witness said it’s from “Coptic sahidic Bible”, some people have other ideas.
Knowledge is not afraid of light, belief is.

William Tyndale is a Jehovah witness by the way, truly, they know the king James VERSION more than anyone.

Dtruthspeaker:
Another attack on Christ and the Bible Again!

These Ishmaelites eh, there is truly no rest for them.



And then Satan came to interfere and plant his own child, your father Ishmael, as he did to Adam..

Which removes him within the meaning of descendant.



We don't care about Ishmael especially as God expressly rejected him in calling Isaac, "My First Born"!

The Bible you guys are using is a king James version from a Jehovah witness. “Version”

MaxInDHouse:
Were you present when the parents gave birth to Him or you READ in some books and TRUSTED (BELIEVED) it so that you're now saying it as if everyone should agree?

It’s a story, I don’t need to trust or believe a story.
it’s written, so I can read and know it, not believe it. Why don’t you disprove it, believer?
Does “God” mean theo in Hebrew?
What does “word” mean in Hebrew?
What does John 1:1 mean then after knowing what they are suppose to mean in Hebrew?


[/b]You are worshipping William Tyndale literally.[b]

MaxInDHouse:
This is why we do come to your house so that we can both sit down and reason from the scriptures! Isaiah 1:18

The promise JEHOVAH made to Abraham has been made right after Adam sinned:

I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your SEED and her SEED; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.” Genesis 3:15

So it's this SEED that JEHOVAH made a covenant with Abraham that the child will come through Abraham's lineage.
Then the promise was transferred to Isaac {Genesis 17:18-21} then Jacob grabbed the promise from Esau {Genesis 25:32-34} that's how the promise of the race that will produce that SEED became the property of ISRAELITES.

Among the descendants of Jacob (Israel) the promise SEED will come through Judah (Jacob's fourth Son) Genesis 49:10
That's how David became the grandfather of that SEED! Isaiah 9:6-7
So when the nation of Israel splitted into two the 10 northern tribes were called Samaritans while the 2 southern tribes were called Judah. Samaritans continued to bear the general name from their father Jacob (Israelites) but the two southern tribes were known as Jews.
Jesus confirmed that it's the Jews (which one tribe are the descendants of Judah) through which God made a promise for SALVATION of the entire human race! John 4:22
So if you want to know all these sacred secrets just ask for a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses, it's not compulsory you become one of us but you will have accurate knowledge of all these things! 2Timothy 3:16-17
Good morning!

Jehovah was a coined name from a Jehovah witness..
It does not have his origin in either Hebrew or Greek language where Bible were written.
If you say Jehovah comes from Yahweh, will you also agree Yahweh comes from YHWH? Because YHWH has a father and a mother.

Flamemignon1:
Like I said learn to speak for yourself just like how some women should learn to speak for themselves

Like I said earlier, learn to comprehend.

Flamemignon1:
Learn to speak for yourself next time

Hope you not taking it literally.
Like women will say they want a “real” man, are some men cartoons/fiction?, as you didn’t take that literally do same here.

Elder0001:
Generalisations everywhere.. I'm sure you haven't met up to 2000 men your whole life, but you're here speaking for all men.

Alpha men not you.

offset67:
you say

You say?

offset67:
you say

Beauty wise she is not top, remove the aesthetic(make up) she is below average.
All men wants a submissive women, does Rihanna look submissive to you? So what exactly is Chris throwing away?
Chris can get a hundred of a better version.

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggar

See wetin Chris brown throw way
Chris brown nor fit knack this girl belle Make he relax

ASAP rocky don run am

Nothing like dating a matured woman...very sweet

Especially the one older than you

Chris brown didn’t throw anything away..
Rihanna is overrated.

Janosky:
Oga, it seems you have comprehension issues.
International standard Bible is not JW.

Septuagint Bible is a translation from which language?

Oga, you have comprehension issues.
Stop typing what you don't understand.

Good bye.

Coptic sahidic is even a dialect in Coptic language, we have 6 dialects. The article you quoted earlier was talking about one of its dialect not even a a language. The VERSION(dialect) was quoted to 200AD

Janosky:

Sifia pains of a polytheist worshipping 3 deities.


Isaiah 43:10 (ASV) "You are my witnesses, my servants whom i have chosen, says Jehovah.
Exodus 3:15,Jehovah the God of Abraham...
Acts 3:13 Jesus Christ is servant of the God of Abraham.
Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness confirmed.

Going further jehovah and yhwh is not the same thing.
Jehovah was coined by a Jehovah witness.
YHWH was one of the gods in Israel, and you can see asheera his mother

Janosky:

Sifia pains of a polytheist worshipping 3 deities.


Isaiah 43:10 (ASV) "You are my witnesses, my servants whom i have chosen, says Jehovah.
Exodus 3:15,Jehovah the God of Abraham...
Acts 3:13 Jesus Christ is servant of the God of Abraham.
Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness confirmed.

Are you not a pagan?
Worshipping both Jehovah and Elohim?
Or do you think theo means god in Hebrew Bible?
Jehovah is not a word in Hebrew, but of Latin origin, truly it is a foreign god different from elohim

Janosky:
Oga, it seems you have comprehension issues.
International standard Bible is not JW.

Septuagint Bible is a translation from which language?

Oga, you have comprehension issues.
Stop typing what you don't understand.

Good bye.

Help me out bro
Theo means gift of god in Hebrew.
Theology means study of the gift of god, right? Or rather study of the gift of Elohim
I can see why Judaism rejected the concept of “Jesus” he was never son of god, he was just a prophet to them who came to deliver logos(word) just as other prophet have been doing and they are somewhat right, Elohim is not Theo but Elohim gift.

Janosky:
Oga, it seems you have comprehension issues.
International standard Bible is not JW.

Septuagint Bible is a translation from which language?

Oga, you have comprehension issues.
Stop typing what you don't understand.

Good bye.

The Septuagint Bible is a translation from Hebrew language. It’s very simple to learn, Believer
Theo means gift of god in hebrew
God means Elohim in Hebrew.

Janosky:
Oga, it seems you have comprehension issues.
International standard Bible is not JW.

Do you even know what “Septuagint” is? It’s not a language. Septuagint BIBILE just like any other book then was written in Greek language, Coptic sahidic is a translation from Greek language.(English to Yoruba)

Septuagint Bible is a translation from which language?


Does theo mean god in Hebrew as it is in Old Testament? Or was Old Testament written in Greek?
Oga, you have comprehension issues.
Stop typing what you don't understand.

Good bye.

My bad, I meant your source is from Anglican.


Does god mean theo in Hebrew, the language where Old Testament was written from? I’m sure you’ve done your search to know
God means Elohim in Hebrew
Word means logos in Hebrew.
Theo means god’s gift in Hebrew.
god was the word.

Elohim is logos

You can’t deceive yourself, your belief has come to light.
Septuagint Bible is not a language.
Coptic sahidic is a dialect from the Coptic language.
Septuagint Bible was written in Greek language a translation from Hebrew language.
The Coptic sahidic bible was written in Coptic language specifically the sahidic dialect and it was translation from Greek language.
Which part of your Bible did they talk in Coptic sahidic Dialect?

Janosky:
The Source I quoted from is not from Jehovah's witnesses.
Pls,cross check & get this fact clearly.

Not my source but the Wikipedia source you quoted from.

[/b]Does the Septuagint have monopoly of Greek?
You think the Septuagint is the only source of Greek Bible manuscripts texts?[b]

Haba !!


Maynman is very confused.
Greek Theos ,get the spelling correctly.

Greek Theos mean God ,a god.
Not a boy.

Really? This is the source you quoted, janosky “ https://www.internationalstandardbible.com/C/coptic-versions.html”

Do you even know what “Septuagint” is? It’s not a language. Septuagint BIBILE just like any other book then was written in Greek language, Coptic sahidic is a translation from Greek language.(English to Yoruba)

Does theo mean god in Hebrew as it is in Old Testament? Or was Old Testament written in Greek?

Janosky:
Oga, which kain GIBBERISH be this?
Is John 1:1 Hebrew language?
The Greeks say Theos mean "a god /God", why are you against this fact?

Are they not referring to the same god in Old Testament which was written in Hebrew?
Shouldn’t they use the meaning according to Hebrew language as it’s a continuation of story?
Is theo the same as god in Hebrew?

Janosky:
It is a fact.
The Source you quoted acknowledged that Sahidic Coptic is around 300 AD about the same time as the Septuagint even though other scholars admitted the Coptic bible manuscripts is as old as 200AD.

I quoted your source(which is a Jehovah witness source)
They said the sahidic Coptic dialect dated back to 200AD, and the Coptic Bible dated back to 350AD.
The Septuagint was written in Greek, Coptic septic is a translation from Greek, how can they be written at the same time?
Is theo the same as God in Hebrew?
The real meaning of theo in Greek is a boy name.

Janosky:
Why do you reject the truth of John 20:17?

John 20:17,Jesus Christ has his God Superior over Jesus & mankind.

Acts 12:22-23 Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear Bible, how did Bill Mounce knows that Theos mean "a god/ God"?

[/b]How did Biblehub knows that Theos mean "a god/ God"?[b]

Westcott & Hort na their Oga kpatakpata in Greek Bible scholarship.
Oga, go & find out.


Your claim is not true.
Oga, go & learn John 20:17.
You seem not to understand Jesus spoken statement.

Why don’t you start from John 1:1, as you said earlier?
A god was the word.
What does “word” mean in Hebrew and Greek? Dabar from logos and rhema
Is Septuagint Bible not a Bible? Why are you scared of it and using a Coptic septic Bible?
Does theo mean “god”’ in Hebrew?

Janosky:
In your own Bible is John 20:17 spoken by Jesus Christ written in Sahidic Coptic?

Oga, go & rest

Is this still a fact

Janosky:
Oga, is Latin the original language of your Bible?
Deus is Latin word for God.
Stop deceiving yourself jare.

Theos meaning " a god/"God ",pls Go & learn, stop being dogmatic.
The Sahidic Coptic Bible is in Concord with the Greek rendition.
[/b]Westcott & Hortt, translators of the Septuagint into English knows that Theos mean
"a god/"God "[b]

Shouldn’t the meaning of the words date back to Hebrew? How did they get to the bolded?

Janosky:
In your own Bible is John 20:17 spoken by Jesus Christ written in Sahidic Coptic?

Oga, go & rest

It was spoken in Greek as it is in the Septuagint Bible.
You are the one saying sahidic Coptic is the earliest translation of the Bible and it’s a FAT NO.

Show me where you got this fact ?” Westcott & Hortt, translators of the Septuagint into English knows that Theos mean"a god/"God”
They lack history .

Stop fighting the Bible.

Janosky:
Oga, place John 20:17 in your brain & in your heart until you understand Jesus Christ statement.

Was the Bible written written in Coptic sahidic? Wasn’t it written in Hebrew and Greek.
Septuagint Bible was written in Greek even before the dialect of Coptic sahidic from Coptic language was developed.
You are fighting the truth.

Janosky:
Oga, is Latin the original language of your Bible?
Stop deceiving yourself jare.

Theos meaning " a god/"God ",pls Go & learn, stop being dogmatic.
The Sahidic Coptic Bible is in Concord with the Greek rendition.
[/b]Westcott & Hortt, translators of the Septuagint into English knows that Theos mean
"a god/"God "[b]

Exactly was the Bible written in Coptic sahidic?


You are fighting the truth, you are afraid of what’s in their.

This is a lie which you can’t prove” Westcott & Hortt, translators of the Septuagint into English knows that Theos mean "a god/"God”

This further proves it, they’ve muddled the meaning up through translation.

Your god is logos..
Your god is Elohim.

Janosky:
Like John 1:1 like Acts 12:22-23

Is John 20:17 in your Bible, spoken by Jesus Christ?
Ho Theos at John 1:1,John 14:1 & 1 Corinthian 11:3 ( Mounce Greek Interlinear) is the only true God worshiped by Jesus Christ.

Theo is a Greek word, why don’t you use the words as they are in Hebrew?
Why are you denying the Septuagint Bible , the earliest translation of the Hebrew Bible.

Janosky:
Oga, nothing dogma about it.
Theos mean "a god" /God"
That is not dogma.
Emphatic Diaglott & New world translation reflected the correct meaning of Greek Theos at John 1:1, the same thing your Trinity mentors did at Acts 12:22-23 & Acts 28:6.

Whenever any Greek Bible texts references Theos (God) more than once, the Most High God is always differentiated by definite article ("ho/the" as ho Theos /the God),the other Theos is rendered as "a god" (with indefinite article "a" because that is not the God Most High.
Oga, go & learn.

Why don’t you check the origin of the word theos? Is it same as God in Hebrew?
The Septuagint is the earliest translation.why are you afraid of the words in it?
The Coptic septic Bible is a translation from Greek.

Janosky:
No the saints or holy ones did not.
That translation of Matthew 27:53 did not give precise rendition of what took place.

w90 9/1 p. 7
‘Many Bodies of the Holy Ones Were Raised Up’

“THE earth quaked, and the rock-masses were split. And the memorial tombs were opened and many bodies of the holy ones that had fallen asleep were raised up, (and persons, coming out from among the memorial tombs after his being raised up, entered into the holy city,) and they became visible to many people.” (Matthew 27:51-53) Catholic scholar Karl Staab calls this event that occurred at Jesus’ death “most mysterious.” What happened?

Epiphanius and other early Church Fathers taught that the holy ones literally came to life and went with the resurrected Jesus to heaven. Augustine, Theophylactus, and Zigabenus believed that these dead ones received a temporary resurrection but later returned to their tombs. The latter opinion, however, “did not gain wide recognition,” comments scholar Erich Fascher. When rendering Matthew 27:52, 53, many modern Bible translations give the impression that a resurrection took place. Not so the New World Translation, which points to the effects of an earthquake. Why?

First, whoever “the holy ones” were, Matthew did not say they were raised up. He said their bodies, or corpses, were. Second, he did not say these bodies came to life. He said they were raised up, and the Greek verb e·geiʹro, meaning to “raise up,” does not always refer to a resurrection. It can, among other things, also mean to “lift out” from a pit or to “get up” from the ground. (Matthew 12:11; 17:7; Luke 1:69) The upheaval at Jesus’ death opened tombs, tossing lifeless bodies into the open. Such occurrences during earthquakes were reported in the second century C.E. by Greek writer Aelius Aristides and more recently, in 1962, in Colombia.

This view of the event harmonizes with Bible teachings. In 1 Corinthians chapter 15, the apostle Paul gives convincing proof of the resurrection, but he completely ignores Matthew 27:52, 53. So do all other Bible writers. (Acts 2:32, 34) The corpses raised up at Jesus’ death could not have come to life in the way Epiphanius thought, for on the third day thereafter, Jesus became “the firstborn from the dead.” (Colossians 1:18) Anointed Christians, also called “holy ones,” were promised a share in the first resurrection during Christ’s presence, not in the first century.​—1 Thessalonians 3:13; 4:14-17.

Most Bible commentators have difficulty explaining Mt 27 verse 53, although several of them suggest that Mt 27 verse 52 describes the opening of tombs by the earthquake and the exposing of newly buried corpses. For example, German scholar Theobald Daechsel gives the following translation: “And tombs opened up, and many corpses of saints laying at rest were lifted up.”

Who were those that “entered into the holy city” a considerable time later, namely after Jesus had been resurrected? As seen above, the exposed bodies remained lifeless, so Matthew must refer to persons who visited the tombs and brought news of the event into Jerusalem. Thus, the rendering of the New World Translation deepens Bible understanding and does not confuse readers concerning the resurrection"


JWs consulted Emphatic Diaglott of 1864 & Sahidic Coptic Bible as well as thorough examination of Greek grammatical construct which is reflected in your own Bible when it suits your Trinity mentors.

Whenever any Greek Bible texts references Theos (God) more than once, the Most High God is always differentiated by definite article ("ho/the" as ho Theos /the God),the other Theos is rendered as "a god" because that is not the God Most High.

Oga, your Bible translations did so at Acts 12:22-23 & Acts 28:6.
Did Johannes Grieberr revealed that to them?

John1:1,1 Corinthian 11:3,John 14:1, Acts 3:13, Greek Interlinear Bible proven that ho Theos
The God is head & Superior over Jesus Christ his son & servants.
Jesus Christ, Paul,John & Peter confirmed that.

Your God Is logos.
And why are you using a translation that came from a translation from a translation.
The Coptic Bible got his translation from the Alexander Greek Bible.

Even in what you posted earlier.
They said the books in the Bible were dated to 350, that means the language would have been created 200AD, which is even not that old compare to some language.
Don’t confuse dialect with the Coptic Bible.

elated177:
Don't be deceived by witches and agents of witches who are parading as atheists.

You lack knowledge.
God is a title not a name of person.

Now if you are saying your god is Jehovah are you not saying Muslims are atheist or you both worship Jehovah? Lol