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Firstly, there is nothing called OND or Ordinary National Diploma in Nigerian Polytechnics. What you have instead is National Diploma or ND. Secondly, you must be a non-resident Nigerian or a foreigner to have concluded that there are no mushroom universities in Nigeria with a lot of unaccredited part-time programes. I doubt if you have seen a Nigerian University graduate who could not write a simple letter that is free of blunders before, well I have seen one, and many of such exist.

Johnpaul09:
As ASUU is different from ASUP, University is different from Polytechnic, the number of students being given admission per year in the university is different from that of polytechnic, VC is different from Rector, as you can see, Uni is different from Poly...so the B.Sc must be different from the HND. It is optional my people, if you prefer going to the polytechnic to going to the university, don't complain afterwards. So relax and concentrate on your job because the two can never be the same. Systems of learning are not the same e.g. Polytechnics have evening programmes, weekend programmes (mainly for businessmen) etc and some HND holders come back from OND to HND maybe, after 5 years after they must have written and passed the HND entrance exams, but these things don't exist in the universities.

Yankee101:
1. You refused to stop for any other passenger
2. You told her u liked her
3. You put out the light in the bus
4. You didn't report to your bosses or the police

You never talk true

Normally, passengers will have to use their cards to enter the bus. The card is linked to individuals' mobile lines and the mobile lines have details of their means of ID attached. The card reader machine that the late Bamise and others that the driver carried used to tap in the bus that day should provide log in details of all the passengers on board. The CCTV camera is another source of evidence. Bamise's chats on Whatsapp around the time of the incident is another source. Perhaps, google map could help track the movement of that day from Ajah to Osodi. The driver should be placed under professional cross examinations now and should not be allowed communication with family and friends for now. His confessional statements from the point of arrest should be well documented and preserved.

asaajuomo1:
The BRT involved is the Blue one own by Govt.

In a short time, the dots will be connected.

Tareq1105:
Tinubu is not a religious bigotry. He's a moslem while his wife, Senator Oluremi is a Deaconess in RCCG. However, he needs to caution MURIC if he knows how to reach him.

MURIC man that hate Jesus Christ with passion forgetting that

his Holy Quran called Jesus Christ *the spirit of God*

He forgot also that among all the prophets mentioned in his Holy Quran, it's only Jesus Christ that was referred to as "Almasiu" meaning "the saviour"

One now begin to wonder if he really open his Quran or just trying to be mischievous.

The earlier Tinubu tame him the better for him.

This is the list of Lagos State house of Assembly members as dominated by Muslims, including a Kwaran. Since 1999, no Yoruba Christian has been appointed a Speaker of Lagos State House of Assembly.

https://www.lagoshouseofassembly.gov.ng/meet-our-members/

The earlier the Yoruba Christians understand the victim game being played by MURIC and its co-travellers to completely scheme them out of things, the better for them.

Virtually all Obaship stools in Lagos State are being mounted by Muslims. That was how Alhaji Adedibu dominated Oyo State for years.

Christians Right Agenda must rise to its responsibility. Yoruba Christians should voice out now!

God1000:
Won't Christians frown on tinubu's candidacy considering he's a Muslim?

Osinbajo is the right person at this time, tinubu should just shelve his presidential ambition for now

This is the list of Lagos State house of Assembly members as dominated by Muslims, including a Kwaran. Since 1999, no Yoruba Christian has been appointed a Speaker of Lagos State House of Assembly.

https://www.lagoshouseofassembly.gov.ng/meet-our-members/

The earlier the Yoruba Christians understand the victim game being played by MURIC and its co-travellers to completely scheme them out of things, the better for them.

Virtually all Obaship stools in Lagos State are being mounted by Muslims. That was how Alhaji Adedibu dominated Oyo State for years.

Christians Right Agenda must rise to its responsibility. Yoruba Christians should voice out now!

ERockson:
This Muric just said what l like since I knew him

This is the list of Lagos State house of Assembly members as dominated by Muslims, including a Kwaran. Since 1999, no Yoruba Christian has been appointed a Speaker of Lagos State House of Assembly.

https://www.lagoshouseofassembly.gov.ng/meet-our-members/

The earlier the Yoruba Christians understand the victim game being played by MURIC and its co-travellers to completely scheme them out of things, the better for them.

Virtually all Obaship stools in Lagos State are being mounted by Muslims. That was how Alhaji Adedibu dominated Oyo State for years.

Christians Right Agenda must rise to its responsibility. Yoruba Christians should voice out now!

Lewisjohnson:
Ewedu nd Amala at it again
Doin wat de knw hw 2 do best

And how are you so sure the attack was not carried out by the non-indigenes?

Maydfourth:
None of this during Ajimobis tenure ooo..A ma to Seyi Daran in Oyo State oooooo..

Is Seyi really in control of the Police in Oyo State or Is any Governor in control of Police in their state in Nigeria? How about the recent similar robbery attacks in Osun State and Ekiti? How about herdsmen attack in Ogun, Lagos-Ibadan Expressway and across Nigeria?

Recently I was in Ibadan and I saw a lot of people clad in black apparel from head to toe even with their face covered like masquerades in the name of wearing Hijab. One thing came to my mind immediately that terrorists and evil minded people will soon be hiding under hijab to perpetuate evils in Oyo State. I have been to Oyo State before my recent visit but I never saw much people clad in hijab the way I saw it this last time. Being always security conscious, I could not stay long at that scene. If people could do evil even when they are unclad, how much more when they have opportunities to masquerade.

I once heard the story of a woman who suddenly began to go out in hijab after she learnt that her son's rival cult gang members may attack her. The son, as learnt, had fled from home after participating in an attack on those rival cult gang. So, the problem is that some wear hijab for no genuine course but how do you distinguish and discern?

DamnnNiggarr:

Aswear, I'm sick and tired of everyday bad News from AfghaniWaistern.
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Recently I was in Ibadan and I saw a lot of people clad in black apparel from head to toe even with their face covered like masquerades in the name of wearing Hijab. One thing came to my mind immediately that terrorists and evil minded people will soon be hiding under hijab to perpetuate evils in Oyo State. I have been to Oyo State before my recent visit but I never saw much people clad in hijab the way I saw it this last time. Being always security conscious, I could not stay long at that scene. If people could do evil even when they are unclad, how much more when they have opportunities to masquerade.

I once heard the story of a woman who suddenly began to go out in hijab after she learnt that her son's rival cult gang members may attack her. The son, as learnt, had fled from home after participating in an attack on those rival cult gang. So, the problem is that some wear hijab for no genuine course but how do you distinguish and discern?

BnQoyyim:
amongst the biblical verses that enjoin hijab is
1 Corinthian 11:13-16.
the Kwara State CAN of Chaos has been exhibiting some biblical verses that encourage bloodshed, bloodthirsty, anarchy and terrorism. Amongst the verses is
� 1 Samuel 15:3
"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"
� Mathew 10:34
"think not that I have come to preach peace, I have not come to preach peace but SWORD"
All sorts of terrorism start and end in Christianity

AbdulMutalab the shoe bomber must be a Christian? The terrorists and bandits killing and destroying from Sudan to Libya, Nigeria and across the islamic world must be Christians - right?

Hodstat1986:
I read some comments and l laughed. I wonder how some people reason with their anus. The kind of hospitality the Christians living in Ilorin enjoy has made them think they can do anything and go away with it. Some of these Christians fomenting trouble here only came to study and later became Ilorin residents due to how accommodating and peaceful the Ilorin people are to them. Pls, don't make Ilorin unlivable since you also have nowhere to live.

Ilorin was not an Islamic city and Kwara State by extension was not an Islamic or Christian state. Most towns and cities in the present-day Kwara belong to the Yorubas and the Yorubas originally were neither Christians nor Muslims. They were traditionalists. Afonja was not a Muslim or Christian. Islam was imported to Kwara the same way Christianity was brought there. The Yoruba Christians in Kwara are Aborigines who have no mixed blood and can never be described as strangers there. Did you hear?

[quote author=Abagworo post=100049023]The guy is right. Nigerians need to learn how to coexist and tolerate one another. The best option is to delete religion and tribe from our society. [/quote

If only you can make the tiger and the lion to co-exist by deleting their natural identities.

Uzi11enzo:
Meanwhile..............

Would you like to do us good now by telling us how many people Jesus killed with sword? Even your sacred book describes him as the Holy Thing at the time of conception. Now if you believe those portions of the Bible, you should also believe John 10.30 and Mark 14: 61-62.

Ballack1:
Is Kwara state governor a Yoruba man?

I doubt.

One4me:
If Yoruba Muslims allow this Fulani stooge to destroy the co-existing peace between them and their Christian family members, for his own personal gain, then they have themselves to blame.

This idiotic Ishaq Akintola is a Cancer in the South West and should be dealt with, the way Cancer is dealt with.
MURIC is a creation and tool of MACBAN, the Fulani association of terrorist Herdsmen

MURIC is just trying to extend what has been going on for years in Kwara State to the South West. You remember how Alhaji Saraki held sway in Kwara the same way Alhaji Adedibu did in Oyo. Something similar is happening in Lagos now. Go and check the names of the majority of Agbero in Lagos and you will understand what's behind the reasoning of Ishaq.

Gireiboy:
Islam permit Muslim men to marry Christian women, while is Haram for Christian men to marry our ladies.

So where is equity and tolerance in Islam?

Naija4love:
did you know the school they are talking about is fully funded by the Kwara State government
They're not talking about private school here, this is publicly school... Please try to know what is going on before you comments

Someone has clarified the lies here. The schools are not fully funded by Kwara State government. Their principals are even appointed by the Christian denominations that own them. Besides, while can't the Kwara state government wait for the decision on tthe appeal at the Supreme Court over the ownership of the schools? The government appears to be restive and trying to take things by force as if expecting that the decision of the SC will not favour it.

mu2sa2:
I am amazed how some people are easily hoodwinked. In these same "mission" schools, in fact all of them, there are Muslim female teachers and non-teaching staff who wear hijab to work and have been doing so for years. Now, the kwara state govt has come up with new set of school uniforms with one design incorporating headscarf. CAN that has raised no eyebrows about teachers and other staff wearing hijab to work in these schools is now all over the place inciting violence over students wearing the school uniform incorporating the headscarf. If jesus who they claim to follow were to materialise today, would he violently stop any student from using the school uniform with headscarf? See how hypocrites have bastardised the message of jesus! Btw, why the obsession with headscarf by CAN - is it against Christianity to use it? Hypocrites, certainly not, because every depiction of Virgin Mary by Christians shows her wearing what muslims call hijab. Since CAN, at least the hypocrites in Kwara, hate headscarf, they should stop nuns from wearing it. Are the hypocrites at war with the Bible - 1 Corinthians 11:6 is so explicit: "For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head."
There's no controversy whatsoever: God says in both Bible and Quran that women should cover their hair. Hallelujah, may Allah guide us all to righteousness.

I attended a primary school of the Anglican church with both Muslim and Christian children. No use of Hijab or beret in that school in those days. Why the sudden noise about wearing Hijab? Are you saying those Muslim girls who did not wear hijab to schools in those days would not make heaven?

You have rights to protect your religious identity and the mission schools have the right to protect their religious identity. It's right vs right.

Talking about covering of heads, the school has provided you with berets.

And if you believe 1 Cor. 11:6, do you also believe Mark 14:61-62 and John 10:30?

We are Africans and it's not by force to be immersed into the Middle East or Arabic way of dressing.

cheango:
SENSELESS GROUP..

Fact about Mission Schools in Ilorin DON'T LET THEM FEED YOU WITH LIES CONCERNING THE CRISIS IN ILORIN.
TAKE TIME TO READ THIS.
1. Hundred % funding by government is a blatant lie. Enter C&S college and you will see the names of individuals and groups that put up the structures ditto for other Churches who may not put names on their own contribution. You may wish to know too that where there are shortage of teachers, the churches hire voluntary teaching staff and pay them among many other contribution.

2. The practice of the proprietors being the one that appoints the principal of the school from among their denominational members lend credence to the grant aiding status of the schools which this government is trying very hard to take away.

3. These government in 2019 awarded the renovation of 29 Schools in Kwara State, not a single Christian mission Schools was on the list, whereas 5 Islamic/Arabic schools were included. If the government has been funding Christian Schools 100%, why then the omission or will the present administration be comfortable to agree that previous administrations were so generous to Christian Schools as to maintain them at a standard that does not deserve the attention of the current administration? When a clever man put up is case, he should know that the judge too is not a foolish mind. The Churches have being contributing heavily to maintain their schools.

4. If the government owns the school then it is fraudulent for KWIRS to continue to collect exorbitant grant rent from the Churches on annual basis over the land on which the schools were built.

5. The case before the court is on the ownership of the schools but the appeal court judges granted obiter on use of Hijab which was not the substantive case put before it.

6. The judgement was appealed and presently in the supreme court. While wouldn't the government await the final pronouncement of the supreme court before implementing sections of the appeal court judgement?

7. Where there are no sinister religious motives, the matter is a straight forward one. If Muslim students must use hijab in all kwara Schools linked to the government of Kwara State, then return the schools to the original proprietors who are not willing to compromise the standard of their own faith too. You don't make another child to cry because you want the one that is doing the needless cry to stop.

8. More so, the case is not new and the status quo has resolved by the Kwara State Committee on Religious Matters as far back as 2008 is that proprietors of faith-based schools should determine mode of dressing and devotion in their respective schools. Why is this government hell bent on changing the resolution that has giving us peace over the years?

9. The narrative to classify the mission schools as full fledge public schools and not grant aided school is to follow up the hijab issue with complete change of the character of the school including changing the names to government secondary school or anything that suit their ill motive thus erasing Christian Missionary signatures from Kwara State schools.

10. The lies contained in the SSG release and CPS tvc interview are one and the same and should be disregarded.

Thank you for the information. The enlightened and fair-minded people who have been following the story know that there's more to the aggression of the Kwara State government on this issue.

Omooba77:
https://dailytrust.com/hijab-rename-muslim-christian-schools-muric-tells-kwara-govt

Indirectly, Ishaq is saying that Islam allows taking what belongs to another person by force. Does Ishaq know the meaning of envy, covetousness, and stealing? All these usually precede killing.

dele1727:


I don't always agree with ishaq....but on this....
I agree absolutely...

A court has ruled in favour of hijab wearers
The only way the missionary schools can take is to appeal the judgement to as far as the supreme court

2, when Nyesom woke pronounced Rivers State a christian state .... christians were all hailing him
No noise was made....
Similar attitude should be adopted here

The judgement has been appealed as we learnt but Kwara State will not wait for the appeal to be decided. Grant-aiding a school does not change the ownership. That you give me money to go to Jerusalem does not mean you own me like a slave.

Muslims have the right to maintain their identity by wearing Hijab based on human rights the same way MISSION schools have the right to protect their identity for the purpose for which they are established. The emphasis is on MISSION. The constitution guarantees equality of rights and no one has greater rights here.

Both parties should maintain their lanes to allow peace. That's called Respect. Wear hijab to Islamic, Quranic, government-built, or community-owned schools but not to MISSION schools even if grant-aided.

You cannot alter another man's identity because you want to maintain your identity. Do not change the identity of mission schools!

Tranquility4u:
I see no reason why Muslim students should be denied
their constitutional rights.

All Muslim students, in particular, female students should be allowed to dress in Hijab since these schools are for the public.


“Are the schools not grant-aided? So you want to use
public money to persecute Muslim children until they
submit to forceful conversion? Even if they are
missionary schools, must they force female Muslim
students to strip? We are not surprised because it is
part of their old way of forceful conversion. Nigerian
Christians should desist from using Muslim children to
subject their parents to psychological trauma. We will
not go back to slavery. Enough is enough.

Grant-aiding a school does not make it government-owned. Subsidizing the price of fuel does not me all vehicles are public assets in Nigeria. Using government money to send people to hajj does not mean they are government properties like slaves to their owners.

[quote author=oloyedewaris post=99375107]BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF

1. Is beret part of islam culture Or that of Christians?, will beret cover your neck?

So the essence of wearing Hijab and covering of neck is to create Islamic or Arabic culture? And then do that in Christian schools? How does covering of neck prevent one from stealing or adultery?

2. Kano is a state and i belief you have little knowledge of secondary school government

There is something they call state law, which is next to the nation's constitution. Any state can make law that they want since it's of the knowledge of the lawmakers and citizens of that state. Lagos traffic and environmental law is different from that of ogun state, so state laws are different from state to state.
Lagos State can also agree to ban alcohol if the citizens and lawmakers want

No state law or any Act of parliament is superior to the constitution. There is what is called the Supremacy of the Constitution

3 . Islamic private school is different entirely, it is run by individual for self gains and not society gain, if u take your child to an islamic private school then you have to adhere to the rules just as applied to Christian private schools.

But public schools should be different, both parties must be considered.

Grant-aided schools are not public schools. That government subsidizes the fueling of your car does not make your car a public asset.

4. I have never heard of public schools forcing students to say islamic prayers.

But if it's true, maybe the Muslims too are forced to sing Christian song too

But you just said now that Kano state has power to make the law it wants.

In fact the in my particular primary school and most schools, student are forced to sing Christian song from Monday to Thursday while just Friday is for islamic prayers

The reason Christian songs were adopted in schools is because Christian missionaries brought former education. Do they sing Christian songs in Islamic/Quranic schools? I have not seen one.

5. I never said they should not respect the rules of an organization, i said Muslims too should be put into consideration

Muslims should be put into consideration in a public, community, government-built schools. Mission schools are not owned by the government even if they grant-aid that school. The teachers in mission schools pay tax and the parents of the children in mission schools also pay tax all to the government. Governments sponsor people to Hajj as well and what benefits does going to hajj has to offer Christians?

Why would a christain enters a mosque with his shoes just as a Muslim with quran, tasbeer, and so on will not be entertained in the church

No right-thinking Christians will do that. Even if a Christian does that, he won't come back the same way he goes as he would have been dealt with by "peace-loving" Muslims. A Yoruba Christian woman was killed in the North years back while officiating for WAEC and her child stolen by "peace-loving" Muslims on a phantom allegation of throwing away the Quran.

But here we are talking of public places like schools are for both religions na

Not all schools are public places as not all organizations are public places. Quranic schools are not public places for non-adherents of Islam.

oloyedewaris:
What is this one saying bayii
They should have rules but not rules to oppress female Muslims, they should put both religion into consideration when making rules

You as a Christian, will you be ok if your child is forced to wear hijab which you don't like

This western world we are, it's of no doubt that there are two main religion, that's why they take them CRK (Christian religion knowledge) and IRK (islamic religion knowledge)

So children should not be forced to pull off their hijabs

That the government is subsidizing the fueling of your car does not make it the owner or co-owner of the car. The schools in question are said to be mission schools and the keyword here is MISSION. That they are mission schools indicates that the objective of establishing them was to propagate Christianity.

Wearing of Hijab to schools was not the practice in some parts of Nigeria until recently. The essence of wearing Hijab is to create an Islamic identity. While this is not a bad idea, doing so in a Christian mission school will be counteracting the objective of the school and this is where the conflict lies. It's a fight for space and no one will like to be dominated.

The school is not government-owned for being grant-aided just as my car is not owned by the government just because government subsidizes the price of fuel. We need to tread with caution so that we won't be STEALING what belongs to another person in the name of human rights.

Freedom of movement does give a herder the right to bring his cattle to my compound or parlour, except that herder wants to be charged for trespass or robbery.

Maobichek:
Good morning, CAN is the head of Christians in Nigeria but Surdane of Sokoto is head of all Muslims in Nigeria, he also is the head of all traditional rulers in Nigeria before the government, he is also the Chairman of Inter religious bodies in Nigeria. That is what I mean by senior partner.

The President or head of CAN is a co-chair with the Sultan and never his subordinate. I'm not sure if Ooni of Ife is subordinate to the Sultan as well.

oloyedewaris:
So you are judging all these based on actions of Fulanis in the country, remember it was this buhari regime that empowered them by not making necessary publications. Did you ever think this during OBJ or GEJ time, it's now that dominance doesn't affect marginalization

Remember that Christians in SW states are much more involved in politics, what makes kwara state case special, why didn't the Muslims dominate them here



Atrocities made by someone who claim doing for Allah doesn't means it's true,

But most parts of the present-day Kwara state are Yoruba land. Originally, Yorubas were neither Christians nor Muslims. Afonja who was sent to Ilorin by Alaafin wasn't a Muslim. Afonja is not an Islamic name, correct me if I'm wrong. The Ofa people are greeted as "Olofa majo, Olalomi Omo afisu jo'ko". They were originally neither Muslims nor Christians. As it is, those Yoruba Christians in Kwara who proudly bear their Yoruba names are not strangers or foreigners there. As a matter of fact, they can be classified as the pure original Aborigines whose identies have never been compromised. So, why should they be referred to as foreigners according to Ishaq?