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Isomerizm:
She won the battle of bastards, how?

Seeing what Tyrion couldn't see is another borderline lame move (beside that Arya's completely un-precursored comment) by the show runners to make her come off as the smart girl fans wish she were.

Beauty is subjective. However, she's not the most beautiful girl in Westeros.

Kept the North in one piece in Jon's absence, when there was nothing to keep the North from. Do you think she'd have been able to do this when the Greyjoy guys sacked Winterfell? Or during the Bolton's incursion?

I think we've flogged this issue so well.

Truth is D & D may have a bigger responsibility for Sansa in the future so they have to just force us to believe she's so smart now.
If that scene of Arya saying she's the smartest person was played in a cinema, we'll hear an explosion of laughter.

iamJ:
well

The theories are 3.

1 is the dragon is a reincarnation of her first husband drogo


2 the dragon is warning Jon abt his aunt



3 the dragons know that Jon is dragon blood and is bonding with him thru her

According to the series( not the books), only a Targaryen can ride a dragon.
So I believe the dragons know Jon very well. Why? Remember some time ago Tyrion talked about the dragon being even smarter than humans. Also, remember Jon's first visit to Dragon Stone, the dragons startled him when he mentioned something about his bloodline to Tyrion.

Maybe Drogon doesn't approve of the incest but if it's about knowing Jon...they know him.

larride:
Maybe you just need to brush up your interpretation skills.

You really want to be ardent with your misconception and assumption? Enjoy.
"Not being suited for 'long' sea voyages" is interpreted as too heavy for the ships. Right? Ok.

larride:
Do you even know how much elephant weigh?

It was just wishful thinking on Cersei part. Not going to happen.

"Not well suited to long sea voyages". That's what the Golden company captain said to Cersei about the elephants and not that the fleet can't carry them.

Sometimes just listening is enough.

Ksslib:
You know, i kept quiet all this time and observed to see if anyone will get it but since no one has, and there's still alot of confusion, let me just put this mystery to bed.

As an engineering student, I can confirm beyond any doubt that the sign the Night King left on the wall is an Archemides Spiral.... named after the 3rd century BC Greek mathematician Archimedes.

An Archimedean Spiral is the locus of points corresponding to the locations ( Winterfell & King's Landing) over time of a point moving away (Night King) from a fixed point( Beyond the wall) with a constant speed along a line that rotates with constant angular velocity.

Mathematically speaking, this means the Night King will reach Winterfell in Episode 2. Tormund understood the mathematical implications of the Archimedes spiral that's why when he was asked how much time they've got by Jon in next week's snippet, he accurately predicted that before the sun comes up tommorow , using the angular velocity of earth round the Sun which is 2.0 × 10^-7 rad/s.

I know some will ask, why an Archimedes Spiral? Why didn't the Night King use a Pythagorean traingle , or Euclidean geometry which would have been far far creepier and mathematically perfect?

To understand this... and the Night King's motive for blood & revenge, we all have to go back to the very first episode of season 1. Where the Night King and The Mad King were briefly shown as roommates in their freshman year at Harvard working on a formula to improve Medivial mathematics based on the work of their hero, Archimedes.

Are you following?

Make una come lock this one up before he starts biting....As in Fibonacci series.

NK is sending shout out to his creators, the Children Of The Forest.

Rumours have it that there are episodes named:
Battle Of Winterfell
Exodus
They wouldn't be funny and arguments would calm down.

Ksslib:
Oh boy!! See investment! The entire history of Nigeria from Slavery, Independence till date is not even up to 3mb pdf.

E go pain me sha if after all this investment, research, and secret email exchanges between you and Producers of GoT, your final prediction(s) end up Carry-over. E go really pain me.

Na him type dey look around for LF to come back to life.

iamJ:
killing ned stark fan service?

killing rob stark fan service?

bringing jon snow back fan service


the moment i saw the red priestess at castle black, i knew that he was coming back

game of thrones doesnt care abt fan service thats why i love the show

Jon Snow

Funny scene. Qyburn: Poor girl, the pox will take her within the year. *Bronn chokes on his drink* Bronn: Which girl?
Guyman no wan die.

LeSulk:
Beinoff and Weiss run the show not GRRM. GendArya won't happen in the books. On the show, it's a big possibility. They've done a lot of fan service in the past, this won't even be far-fetched.

Thank you bro. You are one of the few that understand the effect of fans reaction on D & D and the series.

Fans reactions triggered the death and resurrection of Jon Snow; the total love between Jon and Dany(Jonaerys) and most importantly, the sudden character developement and forced smartness of Sansa Stark. Even the Gendry and Arya shipping on going.

As for Dany burning the Tarlys, whether it's justified or not, She's always been trigger happy.

But remember that Samwell Tarly is a good guy and GOT always knows how to dish out Karma for any action....so Dany must hear am.

Obviously no one took Jon's bend the knee very seriously. No one really thought of the consequences until this season started.

It has dawned on everyone suddenly. Jon even looks and acts like a traitor....i mean how could he keep quiet when Sansa accussed him of falling in love.(D & D should take time o).

The only solution: The NK should quickly get to Winterfell and scatter everywhere so everyone would face other things.

kay9:
He didn't sacrifice it for kitten; he sacrificed it for love. He truly loves Daenerys Targaryen... This woman lost one of her children - Viserion the dragon - to save him. #ThinkAboutIt.

Of course I still don't think he should have bent the knee; that crown belonged to the Northern lords and Jon had no right to give away without consulting them first. I'm just saying that I understand why he did it anyway.

Please where was the love? Where did you see it?

kay9:
Jon realized she had all that as soon as he arrived Dragonstone, yet he refused to bend the knee. He finished mining dragonglass AND sailed north, and still did not bend the knee. Then along comes Dany sallying forth on not one, not two, but three freaking dragons to save his bacon... and our King in the North finally has a eureka moment.

We can sugarcoat it all we want but the glaring fact is Jon made that decision based on emotion - he fell in love with the woman who would sacrifice her children to save people. And so he bent the knee.

Are we actually watching the same show?

Jon Snow bent the knee when he was really convinced Dany was going to totally involve in the fight for living.

Do you remember Jon's convo with Tormund beyond the wall when he cited Mance as a non-kneeler and how it affected his people because of his arrogance and stubbornness?

bond77:
I think she deserves the new role of wits and smartness.. since the beginning of the series she has always been The fool, the dumb, the weak and gullible.. and I Don't think David and weiss are forcing her changed demeanor..she gradually developed it right from season 6 during the battle of the bastard all through season 7 during LF death. now season 8 ..viola !! she's become super smart. I like the new sansa! but at the end all this attributes are useless on the battlefield.. what westros need now are living soldiers to fight the great war not wits.

As for the tyrion treatment, I see no biggie there.. you don't expect sansas to start hugging him when their supposed marriage was forced and I think he's gradually losing his sense of wonder and captivation it was even glaring when he was addressing the lords of the north..let's just say Game of thrones has a way of killing the love and interest we have for our favorite characters.

Let's go deep.
Battle of Bastards: Why didn't Sansa inform Jon on the plans? Remember Jon said 'We have to work with what(soldiers) we have. How do we get more men? Any ideas?(not the exact words)but Sansa kept quiet. Go rewatch.

Now to Directors forcing it on us: No one knows Cersei more than Tyrion(you know this) but they had to make Sansa see so much to belittle Tyrion.

Most importantly: Arya who has lived with Tywin Lannister(the most sensible man in the show) and Jacquen Haegar plus many others to refer to Sansa as the smartest person she ever met is just plain dumb.
Trying to call us that have been watching retarded?

They should just let her flow.

HanksAnuku:
Sansa should not be anywhere near the table when veterans of war are talking. She shouldn't even be in the same building.

You need to consider that these girl is only alive because some people went to overwhelming lengths to preserve her safety.

Reek that refused to save his own skin, when his sister came to save him...somehow managed to find the balls to save someone else.

Brienne waited a whole season in the snow, looking for a candle in a tower. Even after the conspirators were killed....Even after Stannis atracked winterfell...a sensible person would have packed their bags and bounced.

Brienne waited a whole season for an ediot who didn't even know the words to the knights vow in the end, and all because of a promise made to her mother.

To get Sansa out of Ramsay's clutches, these two people had to do quite frankly unbelievable things....they literally had to completely disregard their personal safety to save that girl

Yet Sansa is now being called wise and a survivor, like she had anything to do with it.

Well said.
I hope everyone understands that the directors are under pressure to make Sansa come good if not how would Arya who's spent ample times with Tywin Lannister and Jargen Haggar give a narrative of Sansa being the smartest person she met. A show we have been watching.
Then we all know Jon Snow did not bend the knee for love but the director made Jon dumbfounded and guilty when Sansa asked.

Them dey try deceive me for show wey dem dey show me since Season 1.

iamJ:
nairaland its always sentiments


night king dropped a msg


nobody here is trying to solve it


who knows maybe the night king wants to break the 4th wall and come to nigeria


off to reddit

I feel it's the Children of the Forest pattern. The people that actually created him.

chiboy1116:
if sansa wasn't smart she would HV died a long time ago .

What's going on? Hot pie is alive you know. Anyway, by the time we get to episode "Battle of Winterfell" and "Exodus", this smartness talk will end.

Who on the entire show is more sensible than Tywin Lannister...but he's dead.

Yonce:
She didn't willingly marry either of them.
She was sold into marriage.
She's not the first woman to be sold into marriage in Westeros especially against her will.
Cersei and Dany were also sold into marriage so what's your point again?

Cersei: Once and never happened again.
Dany: Once and never happened again.

Sansa: Was convinced to marry(2nd or 3rd marriage)to the conquerer of her home, in her home and most importantly, on a horse, a 3 minute conviction by LF.

Baby but why?

shogz89:
Oga i no fit argue, its not only targaryen than can ride a dragon. go and read doms of valyria. or google it.

No arguement. Just watch the end of this episode after the credits. The directors spoke about it explicitly. The books are different from the movie. Calm down.

Virus99:
Next Episode is called "Battle of Winterfell"...

The White Walkers would arrive sooner than anticipated. The fighting would start.

Sir Jora Mommont died in the battle.
Tormund also died.
Edd died as well.
Lady Brien died too. And her squire Podrick.

Lots of the great lords died in episode 2.

Are you sending in future spoilers or just assuming?

You of all people know the rules here about spoilers and know the agreement. If your type was in even 'waka pass' of the show shoot, your whole street for don know the end. Annoying.

Yonce:
False
She knew exactly how the battle would play out.
She specifically told Jon to forget Rickon. That Ramsey was only using him as bait but Jon didn't listen.
She told him to wait for more men and call for help from the Vale. He didn't listen.

Rickon died. As she predicted.
And Jon needed more men. As she predicted.

Again to quote Sansa, "I know Ramsey. I know how he thinks."
I call BS

She never spoke in the meetings. She only complained about not listened to...when she didn't speak.
In fact it's even treason to not inform Jon of her plans of bringing the Vale Knights.
If she had told Jon, they would have delayed that morning before the battle.

Truth is the North really love and respect that name Stark. Sansa shouldn't be let alive the moment she returned to Winterfell. Why? Who the hell marries the immediate enemies of thier families? Married Lannisters just after they killed her father and brother. Married Ramsay just after he took over thier home..in the same home. Tufiakwa.

Your kind of defenders have now affected the directors to try to force us to believe she's so smart and that Jon bent the knee for love. Which are all lies. They shouldn't just kill that show cos of Sansa o.

iamJ:
how many people with sense has Arya met?

She worked for and lived with Tywin Lannister; the most sensible man in the show.

Jagquen Haggar and so many more. Don't go there please.

Rubyventures:
She only told Tyrion the truth. The queen Cercei should not be underestimate, she is an unstable evil bitch.

Within you. Do you ever think Sansa would know Cersei more than Tyrion?
The director is playing tricks.

Jon did not bend the knee for love..this we all know. But the director made Jon to go dumb instead of speaking when Sansa asked him. It's all tricks..forcing Sansa to come toppy and wise.

kay9:
I disagree.

Never been a Sansa fan, but even I have to admit she has gotten really wise. Check out that question: Did you bend the knee for the North, or because you love her? Not even little she-bear Mormont suspected that Jon had fallen in love, only Sansa.

Sansa is determined not to be out-witted ever again. I can respect that.

Jon is still 'knower of nothing'. He didn't bend the knee for love but still could not answer. Mumu guy.

kay9:
I disagree.

Never been a Sansa fan, but even I have to admit she has gotten really wise. Check out that question: Did you bend the knee for the North, or because you love her? Not even little she-bear Mormont suspected that Jon had fallen in love, only Sansa.

Sansa is determined not to be out-witted ever again. I can respect that.

Jon is still the 'knower of nothing'.
That question shouldn't have left him dumbfounded. He actually didn't bend the knee because he loved her. Remember he was lying on the bed...down and weak after seeing what the dragons can do to the NK and wights...Jon is a mild mumu sha.

Big Lie by Director that we have to live with.
Arya: She's the smartest person i've ever met.

bond77:
it turns out that sansa has become the smartest of them all.
just look at the way she outsmarted tyrion in the statement "I use to think you are the cleverest man alive".. deep down inside he knew he was a fool for trusting cersie . I mean who does that??

again when sansa was talking with Jon about denaerys ..she coldly blutted out asking "did you bend the knee because you love her (denearys) or because you want to protect the north ?? Jon just Dey look mumu e no fit answer..

I just pity cersie she still believe shes in the game of thrones she thinks she is still in control but her desperation and tricks has long expired ..the moment she allowed euron shagged her I knew she is gone already.. at this point every one around her is just fooling her.. chop and clean mouth things..

please can someone explain to me how the night king was able to kill that young umber and hung him on that spider-like decorated wall ?

That's the director messing with our heads.
You know, last season and farther, Sansa had received serious backlash for the character. Feminists kept defending her and stood up for her. So we expect more sudden perfection from Sansa as feminism usually wins in the Western world.

I mean, since the onset of GOT, everyone appreciates and never forgets a good deed: Tyrion did not deserve that sort of treatment from Sansa at their reunion...Tyrion has treated her better than any man she's ever met..even her family.
The director is forcing it. Simple. Though i like the new 'reasoning' Sansa.

shogz89:
you don't have to be a targarian to ride a dragon.

You must be a Targaryen to ride a dragon.
The directors emphasised on it at the end of this Episode 1

OladimejiRufai:
Thanks for calling me senseless.

but know that ur name is nothing but BUSTED!!!

I found it bro. How do u feel?

Check out the link on vanguard:

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/suicide-bombers-going-hell-says-sultan/

The sultan went against what Boko Haram is doing contrary to ur claim that he has not criticized them.

He said they are going to hell... he was even very strict in his criticism implying how much he abhors them

Now i think I have to stop arguing with u... what a lie you told!!!... against a personality for that matter

how do i now trust u perhaps u have been defending ur claims with false and baseless points.

Again I say to u... ur name is nothing but BUSTED!!

Can I hear somebody say BUSTED!!!

Anyways in as much as we have differences, we are still human.

So i wish u success and prosperity in this life and hereafter.

And make sure u also look left and then right and then left again before u cross a busy road

bye Busted

Busted? hehehehe
He just said 'Suicide bombers go to hell and he arbors killings' FULL STOP. That's condemnation of and ideology to you. OK. In meeting with Tuface. You sincerely don't understand.

I wouldn't bother asking some of my questions you evaded. No problem.
Please find that book and read. I have a soft copy but no means to send.

nice day.

OladimejiRufai:
Sorry if u feel insulted

But ur points are still pointless

Please get it clear

That the Sultan has not spoken against Boko Haram (if he truly hasnt) does NOT NECESSARILY means he supports them. I hope u are humble enough to accept this.

There are possible reasons why he has not

He may have kept quiet because other people of positions have spoken against them.

If I see a Muslim drinking alcohol, but I just pass by him and dont correct him, it does not necessarily mean I suppory what he is doing. This is just common sense.

Secondly, again I repeat, even if he comes out explicitly that he supports them, it still does not necessarily mean that is what Islam says unless he provides sound evidence from Shariah to support his claim.

For example, when Pastor Chris Oyakhilome said masturbation is not a sin, did we not have fellow Christians attacking him and saying Christianity does not support what he said?

When daddy freeze said tithe is not part of christianity, did we not see fellow christians and even pastors contradict him?

So a person may appear as propagating a religion but still what he says does not necessarily mean that is what his religion preaches unless he brings SOUND evidence to prove it

Lemme now educate u further...

The prophet pbuh prophecized that his followers (Muslims) will divide into many sects, all of which will enter hell fire except one (who will enter paradise). And he said the one who will enter paradise are those who stand on what he and his companions stood on and do not deviate from the right path.

What does the above prophecy tell u? It tells u that at some point in time, there are some people who will appear as Muslims but their actions and ways and sayings will still lead them to the hellfire because they had deviated from the true path of Islam.

So when someone appears as a Muslim even if it is a person of authority, I am telling u today that what that person says does not NECESSARILY means that is what Islam says unless he brings SOUND evidence from the shareeah to prove his point.

So there are two points here u have failed to disprove

One is... That the Sultan has not spoken against them (if he truly hasnt) does NOT NECESARILY means he supports them

2. Even if he comes out openly and clearly that he supports them, it still does NOT NECESSARILY mean Islam supports them

Then another things... i see u parading as someone who has sound knowledge abt Islam. Sorry to say I smell nothing but ignorance and confusion from u and I hope u will put ur ego aside and accept it

That book u said.. U were telling me some people wrote it..

Some people Which people

Where did they acquire their knowledge abt Islam for them to successfully author a book about Islam?? How much of Islamic law do they know? How much of the context behind the verses in the Quran do they know? How much Arabic do they understand? How much of the measures of deriving rulings fron Quran and Sunnah do they understand... Something that takes a lot of time and efforts for people who became Scholars to know? So they just woke up one day, with all their ignorance and think they can write abt Islam

I am sorry if u feel insulted, but I repeat... Ur points are chicken points

Besides I THINK saw something on the news sometime ago that the Sultan met with 2face Idibia and he said Suicide bombers are going to hell, contrary to ur claim that he has not spoken against them.

I will try to look for it and when I find it, I will show u

Then u will be nothing but BUSTED!!!

You still do not understand the emphasis on Custodian of a religion.
On the Sultan issue you've said absolutely nothing.

You can also evade the question of Muslims believing in jihad.

You are myopic or maybe evasive to the point that muslims are now sympathetic to Boko Haram.

I don't have any sound knowledge of Islam. I just read and have found out Quran and Islam is confusing for Muslims. I'm not even Muslim.
Quran defends abduction of girls and enslaving them. No?

When Shekau killed the humanitarian worker, he quoted the Quran to back up his actions. All Muslim clerics I've met couldn't go against what he said..they kept running around like you.

If Sultan keeps being smart about his stance on Boko Haram, they'll keep recruiting with ease.

You are senseless to argue with a book you've not seen or read. You can hardly imbibe.
There are soft copies of the book. Go search for it.

Bye.

OladimejiRufai:
Sultan of Sokoto has never spoken against them, u said, thinking u were raising points.

But I want u to know that if there is something called chicken change, ur points can as well be described as chicken points.

No 1.

If Sultan of Sokoto has not spoken against Boko Haram, it does not NECESSARILY mean he supports them.

Has he come out explicitly to say "I support them"?

What if he is afraid? What if he does not have the time to criticize them? What if he decided not to do so because some other people have done it already?

Now to futher burst ur bubble... again I repeat... lack of knowledge abt islam is one of the problems of people.

Lemme now tell u something... Even if the Sultan comes out explicitly to say he supports Boko Haram, it still does not mean that is what Islam says.

King Salman of Saudi Arabia, despite being the ruler of a country where shariah is the law and despite being the custodians of the two mosques, he shakes hand with women.

Are u now gonna tell me since the king does it, then islam allows it?

No.

U see... what a person says does not count in islam. what the shariah says is what counts. what a person says can only count if he backs up his saying with evidence from Quran and Sunnah.

So even if sultan supports boko haram, it still does not necessarily mean Islam supports it. this is common sense!!!

And secondly u said u read a book.. imagine...

Who wrote the book? I ask u

Perhaps someone who is ignorant of the true Islam or confused like many of u here on nairaland wrote it and u think u can justify Islam with it

Man... it is amazing, close to being a miracle how u could come up with "chicken points"

believe me, this is the first time I see points as empty as this to be qualified to grab that title "chicken points"

U can do better man

but with sound knowledge!!

Sultan is the 'custodian' of Islam in Nigeria. Why are you making excuses for the Sultan's absolute lack of criticism on the biggest challenge in Islam (being BHT) and the country at large.
You said what if he's afraid. A topmost religious leader is afraid of speaking against the biggest threat to the religion he protects? Do you even listen to yourself?
Then you said he doesn't have the time but makes out time to comment on Law school hijab and also when there were reprisal attacks on Fulani communities.
About the book, 'Beyond The Headlines'..it was written by a group of authors, half were Nigerians and the others weren't. No one disputes the stance of the book cos it dealt with day to day happenings from origin of BH.

You veered straight to insults without addressing properly the issues I raised.
Do you even understand the Quran?
Doesn't the Quran support and defend abduction of girls and enslaving them?

Like I said, it's obvious understanding Islam is even more confusing to muslims themselves.

I ask again Does every Muslim believe in Jihad according to Islam?

Also bearing in mind that a lot of Northern muslims are illiterate and listen wholeheartedly to the Sultan, isn't it only right the Sultan condemns BH but then....

How many muslims condemn the ideology of Boko Haram?