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KoloOyinbo:
You have introduced Carved and Moulded objects yourself (I don't know of any). Suspect it is because of your limited understanding of the word 'idol' which can be an object or person or even ideal/idea. Have you not heard of a person being called an idol.

You alluded to France in the first instance or how would I even know about your limited connection there. I don't think you are French, your uses of English marking your origin clearly.

Your failed attempts to justify your lack of logic or to deflect from your false idol (fake pastors) and their meaningless 'prophesies' is laughable.

The origin of these supposed prophesies is the fake pastors (human idols for the gullible) hence the introduction of the word although that will be too complex for you to understand.

The only thing I never saw coming was your lack of education and common sense!

You introduced the hero worship of fake pastors (idols) yourself. I don't know of any. Do not try to play smart by ranting about what the word idol could connote because i'd clearly outsmarted you on that when i told you "I have no business with idolatory of ANY FORM" (that is if you even understood "jack" from the CAPITALIZED WORDS). Of course you didn't, and it clearly shows how stupified your understanding is. Trainer/teacher indeed! Clearly a teacher/trainer of goats, that's WHO YOU ARE.

Your myopic thinking couldn't still let you know that you don't necessarily need to be FRENCH for you to live/stay in France. Another stupidity oozing out from a self-acclaimed educationist. Hahaha! Poo all over your reasoning.

Lol! Poor scheming there. It's your failed attempts to justify your flawed usage of logic and its inappropriateness that is so pathetic. Even more horrible is your inability over several days of trial to give any meaningful substance to a statement you made. What a SORRY you!

Lol. Complex for your understanding of course, is the simple english language being used in this discuss. Hahahaha. Educationist!

Yeah! Surely, you never saw your folly oozing out this great with such reckless abandon. I'm not surprised though, CRETINS like you can't offer better than you have.

Lmfao!

KoloOyinbo:
In order:
1) These fake pastors are your idols. (You must have heard the word used that way especially if you have briefly visited any European country)
2) That's why I use the word. Your silly "no its not me its you" is what we expect from you.
3) I have defended my clear demonstration of these meaningless utterances many times here. You lack the education to under the argument (possibly instead you simply don't want to understand).
4) You are the one who brought up France. I don't believe for one minute that you are French. The French education system is too good for the lack of intellect you choose to display here.

The THREAD is about these fake prophesies but YOU keep diverting to me. (We all know why)

Sorry this is upsetting you so much. Try a real Christian Church or a Pastor who does not try and fool his congregation and you may find peace of mind.

1. These CARVED and MOULDED OBJECTS are your idols. It's such an obvious thing as your idolatory filled brain keeps getting the better of your reasoning and comprehension of simply written lines that just doesn't conform with your idolatory-ridden thinking.

2. That's why i make that statement. Your stupid denial is the best we expect from you of course.

3. You simply and clearly lack the education and intellect to give any meaningful backup to your statement. Needless repeating how heroic your folly is.

4. Cretinous you. And when did i make the statement of being FRENCH? VERY OBVIOUS now how much you lack comprehension of simple statements in english language. I'm now so convinced of how intellectual you are. Wow! What a teacher/trainer in our Nigerian institutions indeed. Story for the dogs. Cook up another lie please! But don't forget to make it a bit more credible.

The THREAD is on prophecies and my discuss thus far has been on prophecies too. But you chose to deviate from it, talking about idols and education which you surely so much lack. Of course the reason you resorted to such cheap scheme is very obvious from the discuss so far. You've really left nothing more to be desired in exhibiting your folly here. Keep it up.

Upset? Surely you are the one upset and breathing out frustration. You sure never saw this coming.

KoloOyinbo:
Well we did not speak of my idols because I have none? Except in you rather fevered imagination!

OBVIOUS with my repeated usage of the word for WHAT YOU DO? Really you lack of understanding of simple English is astounding? Now I am guessing you are not still in France as illegals don't last as long there as in the UK.

I repeat it because of you idol worship of these fake men who profit from the faith of others.

Does any of this defend those fake pastors and their nonsense so called prophesies or merely confirm that there are plenty of fools to foll them?

Neither did we speak of my own idol because i clearly have none either; except in your cretinous thoughts.

My HERO WORSHIP OF FAKE PASTORS? Obviously you lack even the minutest of reading skills not to even talk of comprehension ability. Now keep the France guesses coming, but you definitely still don't impress with it.

And i maintain your idol worship of CARVED and MOULDED images because your continued usage of "the idol worship" crap (even after i made it clear i've got no business with IDOL WORSHIP OF ANY FORM) clearly shows how much you are given to idolatory, hence think every human have the same idol worship mentality like you.

Probably skipping the subject matter and ranting about "idol worship" is your scheme to shy away from the fact you've failed woefully to muster up any form of meaningful defence of your stupid claims. But you know what? You weren't and still ain't smart! Keep trying though.

KoloOyinbo:
Hmmm Still spouting gibberish? Better ask you idol (read hero) for the money to get as much of an education as you can take, (Don't worry, It will not be much).

Sorry but you just keep asking for it and make it soooo easy!

And your imbecility keeps getting the better of you in every crap you try to come up with. Definitely you and your idols have run dry of any form of meaningful PROOF to your statements. Hahahaha! It can't get funnier than this.

However, i enjoy making mockery of your cretinous thinking. Keep them coming as i'm sure you and your idols can't run dry of those.

Alright. Now your next stupidity please!

KoloOyinbo:
YOUR idol is a term synonymous with hero worship! Sorry I forgot you have a tendency not to be able to follow things. Remember in English as in MANY languages the meaning of a word is influenced by its context!

YOUR carved and moulded images is your IDOL which is obvious with your repeated usage of the word "idol" as it's the only thing that rushes to your brain given how much you are given into IDOLATORY. Oh! Did i even forget you find it challenging comprehending simple statements made in english language.

KoloOyinbo:
Aint smart at all? Is that why your major institutes pay me to spend 2 weeks a month in Naija training and consulting for them? WOW If I 'aint smart' what does that make them?

Don't worry you cant upset me, after all the cub barks and the wolf laughs!

You gave little or no explanation and you user of English is poor.

Next time you give money to the fake pastor please remember the wonderful African saying (I would love to know the exact regin it originated from but suspect it is now too general and widespread for that) "Monkey day work - Baboon dey chop"!

Now do you really want to try and continue to trade insults to cover you failure? Will this earn you kudo's with your human idols?

What's my business with who pays you and why they pay you OR what laughs while the other barks? All these for a SIMPLE explanation?

You can trade more insults if you like; guess your CARVED and MOULDED IDOLS really enjoy you doing them.

KoloOyinbo:
So you STILL don't understand the analogy or even the explanation! No surprise. Did you get into France legally or cross the Med in a boat! (Sorry, could not resist!)

Hahahaha! Sure you ain't smart at all. Trying to play your usual trick of running away from your mess right? I made a simple statement (too complicated for you of course) in ENGLISH LANGUAGE and you got clearly lost, asking if that was english. Sure, i stupified you the more with the explanation to that simple statement that got you so confused and then you run back to a baseless statement talking about analogy. My statement was SIMPLE. Your lack of comprehension was OBVIOUS and again my explanation was even SIMPLER. What gave birth to your ANALOGY statement? A ploy to conceal your low IQ and lack of comprehension of my simple statement in english, isn't it? Hahaha! Sorry, you failed yet again. I keep telling you, "you aint smart at all". Keep your stupidity flowing out. The next one please.

KoloOyinbo:
Not sure what images you mean? I worship God and need no image (if there is one it does not offend me though, as I know it is merely representational but is unnecessary).

Not even sure how CARVED and MOULDED IMAGES entered the discussion but happy to clarify the point.

Just as i am also not sure how your repeated usage of "my idol" in your responses came into the discuss. Even at that, i still made i clear early enough that i have no business with IDOLATORY OF ANY FORM and i worship "NOT JUST GOD BUT THE TRUE GOD", yet your business with idols and idolatory wouldn't let you see that, and realize that not everybody is given to the worship of CARVED and MOULDED IMAGES like you do.

Next time, learn to stick to a subject matter and avoid wobbling around with empty statements to try and gain cheap points.

KoloOyinbo:
I make no claims only reject FALSE claims which have been demonstrated as such to those with the ability to understand!

As a Christian I am warned and indeed armoured against such false prophets! I will refrain from commenting on your Christianity other than to warn you about hero worship of fake pastor!

Hehehehehe.....ok nah.

Good for you still. As for your warning, THANKS A BUNCH.

I'd also use this opportunity to warn you refrain from hero worship of CARVED and MOULDED IMAGES.

KoloOyinbo:
I would reply properly to this but your first paragraph is meaningless. Is it English.

Now you are showing your bad manners and ignorance by trying to be rude and insulting! Your fake pastor would be proud of you!

Hahahaha. Truly your slowness is so unbeatable. I'll offer to help you understand anyway. I said: Your court and prosecution analogy IN EVERY MANNER THERE IS, (meaning in every way possible) contradicted as well as invalidated your arguments. Now can your retarded brain comprehend it? Probably NO! Still higher than your IQ. Logician indeed!
I laugh in français. Looollllll.

Bad manners? Ignorance? Rude? Insults? Hahahahaha. Grow up kid (oops! Old man i mean). At your age you should know "people who live in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones". Sorry though if it hurts you, but surely you got in return what you gave out.

And....yeah! Your CARVED object would sure be disappointed in you.

LMFAO!!!

KoloOyinbo:
Remember that even if an analogy is flawed (our as in this case too complicated for the subject [you] to understand) it in no way invalidates the argument it was meant to support.

My mistake was in thinking too highly of you an not realising the impediment you operate under.

Hahahaha. Oga your COURT and PROSECUTION analogy in every manner there is contradicted as well as invalidated your arguments jare. You sure didn't know what prosecution is nor who a prosecutor is before jumping onto that analogy. It's a pity it ended up tucking your tails between your legs. Sure you'd be licking your wounds for such a blunder. Atleast i'll be graceful enough to sympathize with you; TAKE HEART! Try again next time.

Well, your mistake? Yeah! Your mistake was in thinking too highly of yourself and not realizing how retarded you are before trying to present yourself as a genius on this forum; talk about a fish trying to climb a tree.

Lmfao.

KoloOyinbo:
You are almost (but not quiet) seeing that the burden of proof is with the fake pastors.

When I have analysed the meaningless utterances masquerading as prophesy you have diverted and argued anything rather than deal with the non existent meaning of what they have said.

How many times do you wish me to keep repeating something you ARE capable of understanding but do no WISH to.

I have illustrated CLEARLY for intelligent people that the so called prophesies are nonsense.

It up to you now what you believe. Don't worry, as these statements can be twisted in any way there will always be an excuse if they do not happen or MANY things that DO happen that they will claim fit the prophesy (but only AFTER the fact).

After all these so called prophesies are designed exactly for people just like YOU! So be thankful.

I have always and am still seeing nothing other than the fact that you have failed to give your claims any backbone/substance.

What poo analysis are you talking about? That a prophecy is supposed to be like one illustration you made (which you termed being specific), and i gave you a CLASSIC example from the bible and uptil now, you still haven't proved me otherwise, yet you talk about YOUR ANALYSIS? Again you said those are general statements and i once more borrowed an example from a prophet's prophecies in the bible and uptil now, you are still to prove me otherwise, yet you keep ranting about some DIRTY ANALYSIS. Analysis indeed!

Of course they are designed for Christians like me and not Idolaters like you. So cut it a slack and be concerned about the inability of those your own CARVED and MOULDED CRAP to speak to you. Anyways, goodluck as you await on them to SPEAK.

LMAO!

KoloOyinbo:
OH and the appropriateness of the analogy was only that it was too complicated for you!!!

Lmao.....your abandoning of that analogy was only that it was so flawed and kept on contradicting your schemes. Let it not steal your sleep though, you'd have another opportunity sometimes in the future to impress.

KoloOyinbo:
OK. To try one last time to explain the analogy to you..

(Although this will be a MIRACULOUS COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT OF EDUCATING YOU)..

Don't confuse the Accusation with always being the first statement.

COURTROOM ANALOGY:

FIRST STATEMENT: You did something (in THIS case we call THIS statement an accusation)

SECOND STATEMENT: I did not do whatever
(BURDEN OF PROOF REQUIRED FOR FIRST STATEMENT)

Now your
FAKE PROPHESIES:
FIRST STATEMENT: I prophesy x, y, z whatever

SECOND STATEMENT: I do not accept this

(BURDEN OF PROOF REQUIRED FOR FIRST STATEMENT)

Now you probably STILL don't understand but perhaps if you read a little you might grasp the concept.

One final try

FIRST STATEMENT: The Moon is Made Of green cheese

SECOND STATEMENT: You lie it is not

Now do you see that the burden of proof is with the FIRST STATEMENT.

Anyway you have managed to divert from the meaningless prophesies but I am not sure why?

Do you want to avoid further scrutiny of your fake idols nonsense

What of his so called predictions for 2014? How many of them came true? He will claim all because they will have been so vague that no matter what happens he will claim to have predicted it and I am quite sure you will believe every word from this Prince of Lies.

I'll do it one last time. (ALTHOUGH THIS WILL BE A MIRACULOUS COMPLETION OF PROJECT OF TRYING TO SCOOP YOU OUT OF STUPIDITY, Remeber a fool at forty? Not to talk of at a whooping fifty-nine)

Hahahahaha. You try so hard to avoid it, but seriously you just cannot. I'd still go by the explanation you gave up there.

FIRST STATEMENT: You said "these are false prophecies".

SECOND STATEMENT: I said "i do not agree".

Now do you see that the BURDEN OF PROOF is with the FIRST STATEMENT

Hahahaha! Go ahead and substantiate that those are false prophecies. Stop derailing. Na very simple matter na.

And for your idle repetitious "idol" statements, i've made it clear earlier that i've got not business with IDOLATORY of any form (humans, events or fetish objects). But your repeated usage of that word now makes it so obvious you worship and idolize some form of CRAPPY CARVED OR MOULDED POO, but have it in mind that everyone isn't given to idolatory like you do as someone like me is way bigger than such trash.

Back to business. Now, burden of proof, analogy, prosecution, court or whatever tactic you employ, all still drives to the same thing; PROVE TO ME WHAT YOU HAVE CLAIMED. Isn't it that SIMPLE!

Now one more derail and it sure would be obvious who you are. Keep to the subject matter and give backbones to your claims. It doesn't get SIMPLER than this.

KoloOyinbo:
Its not to do with who is prosecutor and accused!

The appropriateness of the analogy being too complicated for you is not the issue here so YOU please stop the derailing!

The [b]issue is the fake prophesies [/b]you keep trying to foolishly defend.

THEY are the original statements! It is those that rational people cannot accept. Sorry if this is too complicated for you?

How did the French ever let you in?? (Sorry I could not resist! )

Hahahaha! Now, the appropriateness of the analogy no longer matters? Talk about educated fools. (what? Did i just let that out? Sorry i couldn't help it)

Sorry, if defending you loose claims was made such an insurmountable task for you. Sure you never saw this coming. Lmao!

KoloOyinbo:
Now even after YOU have failed to understand who has to prove things, AND when the meaningless statement have been pointed out you STILL persist in your nonsense.

The France thing was just to see if what I suspected about you from your 'mindset' when face will proper thought was true. You are certainly strengthening my suspicions.

Now as to MY education suffice to say that YOUR organisations keep coming to me for consultancy and training!

Your lack of education seems to be only exceeded by your blindness to the truth!

The things you mention above do absolutely NOTHING to justify these 'blank readings' from these charlatans.

They simply reveal that you cannot understand explanations when they are put before you and instead prefer to argue with some point you have misinterpreted to allow you to argue.

You really do belong to these charlatans don't you?

Like I said before... Sigh!

At fifty whatever it is you claim to be your age and the level of education you claim to have, your brains should have been developed enough to know how to give CONCISE and SUCCINCT answers to questions. Rather, every now and then, you give in to writing poetries, blabbing about, putting up flawed analogies, misuse vocabularies and spew utter crap.

Good enough you said YOUR SUSPISCIONS. What business have i got to do with your suspiscions? They live in and burden your heart and thoughts; and i mean yours alone. Gladly leave them there please!

My lack of education indeed! Hahahaha. Now if you are highly and extremely educated like you've claimed and yet well over 48 HOURS can't give a dude who lacks education a CONVINCING SUBSTANCE to your own claims, then "WOE TO THAT YOUR EDUCATION".

You mean explanations like that your prosecution crap? Hahahaha. I know better than such crappy explanations.

You sure are the charlatan here seeking for gullible minds to woo. Sorry charlatan, you came up against mount Everest. No wonder you kept hurting.

Back to the topic of this discuss; do justice to your claim or take the highway. Quit the derailing.

KoloOyinbo:
Prosecution was used as an ANALOGY that you did not understand!

When I explain something to you don't understand and then it requires further explanation!

It is clear why these fake pastors/prophets find it easy to fool people like you!

You cannot even recognise meaningless statements that can be twisted to suit ANYTHING even after it has been explained to you!

Sigh!

Good! Keep the gibberish coming. Your retarded mind still doesn't let you see how you fluffed your arguement with your prosecution poo, or you just feel so ashamed of yourself now to accept how flawed your analogy was?

Now let me still help you with that your prosecution poo. You presented your prosecution analogy and said the prosecutor is meant to substantiate his claims and not for the other party to prove he's mistaken. You perhaps don't know there can't be a prosecutor if there isn't an accused. So now who is the prosecutor and who is the accused here? We'll find out easily. You said he made THE ORIGINAL STATEMENT (the prophecy) hence should be the one to prove it. Going by your prosecution analogy, how does his prophecy make him a prosecutor invariably making you the accused? Did he accuse you of anything hence the need for him to do the prosecution? On the other hand, you made the STATEMENT that his prophecies were false and that he is a liar. Now can't you see how you have ACCUSED him of a crime, hence making him the ACCUSED making yourself the PROSECUTOR? Lol! Probably now, prosecutors ain't meant to substantiate their claims rather the accused should be the ones proving stuffs. Hahaha. Logician and Analogist indeed. Now, even a nursery pupil will comprehend this. Spew out another poo thou great logician.
Analogy my foot!

You sure are the one who is being easily fooled around as these your flawed arguments clearly shows.

Please go to the subject matter and do justice to it. Face the issue at hand squarely and quit these your puerile derailings.

KoloOyinbo:
My, my, you are getting quite upset aren't you!!!

Social projects can be to feed the malnourished etc.

Having had to try and explain burden of proof to you. (Which you STILL don't seem to understand) You now want me to explain PROJECTS to you

And all this to distract from the fake prophesies you idol utters!

Sigh!

You mean like i helped you break down what your "prosecution" meant and you ran away from its usage? Lol.

Of course you were trying to be sarcastic with your feeding whatever, little did you know that the incidence in the bible you were trying to borrow a leaf from was a MIRACLE and not a PROJECT.

Feeding the malnutritioned is a project of course but your "five loaves and whatever to feed 10,000 people" sarcasm can never happen again just like MANNER FALLING FROM HEAVEN can never happen again. And mind you, a project of feeding the malnutritioned doesn't even have a completion as it's a continous thing hence, doesn't fall under the prophecy "miraculous completion of projects". Think of another sarcasm that rhymes please.

I've always told you, THINK, THINK and THINK WELL before you spew out some shit.

KoloOyinbo:
The timeissue is because I have other things to do than enjoy reading your silliness. (Please don't let it disturb you too much)

You clearly lack the education to appreciate logic so I guess that is why you don't say when you came to France, for how long or what you do there. (Not that we could believe you anyway). But then as you defend these charlatans and believe their clear rubbish.

I have explained things clearly enough for any educated person to understand (not you obviously) and exposed the prophesies as essentially meaningless. Now I have stated my position clearly.

You obviously disagree but cannot convince any reasonable person otherwise. I can only say how glad I am to have spent so much time in Nigeria and realise how few are actually like you!

Your time excuse says nothing to hide the fact that you've been so unconvinving in making your PROOF. You dont need a whole year to do that. Infact, it's such a retarded excuses. (But don't let that deny you sleep please)

Now when i came to France, for how long and what i do there or whether i'm even there or not has got nothing to do with the subject matter of this discuss. So keep the focus and quit all these your phenomenal derailings.

Sure, it's very obvious you are the one who lacks education to put up any meaningful form of logic here. You came up with your court and prosecution gibberish and you made a whole mess of yourself with that; you discarded it yourself too. You tried your BURDEN OF PROOF poo and still faltered. Education! Education!! Sure you hear it crying hard in your ears.

You have explained things clearly indeed. Now let's see your clear explanations.

1. Now you claimed if it's a prophecy, it has to be SPECIFIC. And by your example of being specific you said, a prophecy is something like: Air plane S (name) flying from city B to city C on say March 3 will crash. Then that's a prophecy. And i asked you Prophets of the old who prophesied the birth of Christ, which of them gave you the date of Christ's birth? Or ain't theirs prophecy too?
Your Answer: skipping the question and wobbling around with burden of proof and some prosecution poo.

2. Again you said those are generic/general statements hence ain't prophecies. I pointed out a few prophecies of Prophet Joel. Joel 2:26 "you will have plenty to eat until you are full....and praise the name of the Lord your God"
Joel 2:30 "i will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth....".
Now what's so special about those prophecies? Haven't people been having plenty to eat and praising the name of God? Haven't wonders been happening on earth? Does these then make Joel's statements less of a prophecy or condemn him as false prophet (according to your arguements)?
Your Answer: Once again you skip it and blab around without any meaningful statement to buttress your claim.

Now i wonder who is really clueless, lack intellect and need to go get some education.

And i still give you another opportunity; Oga prove that those are false prophecies like you claim. Seems it's really been your bane.

KoloOyinbo:
Well well have you now graduated to sarcasm? Project can have MANY meanings. Even in Nigeria a Church Project! Of course we don't say what the project is because that opens the danger to being proven wrong which these fakes cannot take the risk of.

Mr, look up the various definitions of the word PROJECT and tell me how any agrees with that crap of feeding whatever you put up earlier.

Lol, astonishing how you keep on fluffing your arguements with your acclaimed wealth of intellect.

KoloOyinbo:
Feeding ten thousand with five loaves and fishes now THAT is a miraculous completion of projects. Let me know please when it happens again (and keep me a fish please!)

Lwkmdh! Did you think before you wrote this crap? Or does this mean you don't know the meaning of the word PROJECT? OMG! How old did you even say you are again? Mr. enlightened indeed! With such a great wealth of intellect. Lol, this's that intellect oozing out of course.

And you claim you teach/train others? I feel pity for those poor fellows.

KoloOyinbo:
OK. Forget PROSECUTOR it has clearly confused you.

You make a statement - (in this case the ORIGINAL prophesy) The burden of proof is now on YOU to validate the statement. It is NOT on those who disagree. This is clear logic. I CANNOT believe you don't know this.

Your statement that I have bolded is quite meaningless!

Now as for your pathetic attempts at insults where your lack of intellect is evident I can only assume it is the typical defence mechanism of those inadequate people taken in by such vague attempts to pretend to be holy men etc.

As for going back to school. I sort of do! That's my job. Training people (especially in the developing world how to do things). Sadly I think you are beyond any sort of training. I get paid quite a lot to do that and all expenses covered! Lucky me! I told you the Lord has been good to me.

I am genuinely sorry to have upset you by stating the obvious about your false idol and can guess the pain it would cause you to admit the truth. If this nonsense is prophesy then everyone on earth can be a prophet! Even YOU! (More correctly everyone can pretend to be).

I note you did not comment on the speaking in tongues issue. Do you actually believe that everyone spouting gibberish is possessed by the Holy Spirit?

You say you are in France but I know the standard of the French educational system and you would no be struggling with the burden of proof concept had you been educated there.

Could I take a wild guess and say you have moved there recently?

Now I will have to accept that I will never convince you of the falseness of this charlatans claims.

You must equally accept that few educated people will accept this gibberish as prophesy. And to a true Christian we find such attempts at self aggrandisement very suspect! It is noticeable that fakers like this are more prevalent in the developing countries with lower standards of education although sadly that is a generalisation and they are certainly NOT excusive to it.

Sigh! Christianity is expanding very rapidly in Africa. Unfortunately too many unscrupulous people are only too ready to take advantage of that.

And it has taken your wealth of intellect WELL OVER 48 HOURS and still counting to give a SIMPLE PROOF to the perceived lack of intellect fellow to validate your claims. All these poetry for a SIMPLE PROOF to your own statement/claim again? Very obvious who is really lacking in intellect here.

Lmao! FORGET Prosecutor? Logician, why should i? Hahaha. You've now come to see how your usage of the word and your analogy makes you so stupified? Lol! Keep on digging up words higher than your intellectual capacity and you'll as always end up making mockery of yourself. OK! I'd still do you that favour and let that your flawed prosecutor analogy slide.
Now back to your STATEMENT analogy. Mr, you made a STATEMENT that the man of God's declarations are FALSE PROPHECIES and i contend with your statement, shouldn't this your very BURDEN OF PROOF again be on you to validate this your STATEMENT? Hahaha! Waiting for your next confusion, perhaps BURDEN OF ISSUE or even BURDEN OF BURDEN. Oga abeg prove/substantiate your claims. Isn't it that simple enough? Hian! Na wa for this kind wealth of intellect o. Intellect ko, Prosecutor ni.

I've told you earlier you ain't a bit smart, so quit forcing it. Be man enough and do justice first to your claims on the prophecy issue then we can talk about speaking in tongues.

KoloOyinbo:
So what you are in effect saying on number four is that a miracle will happen!
So the prophesy is a Miracle will happen in 2015! Any fool can say that.

And number seven simply repeats what was said WITHOUT addressing my point!

If you actually accept these as prophesies then God help you. I will pray for you. I suppose if I said 'Robote Ekite' and claimed to be speaking in tongues you would just believe me without verification! You would even challenge those who said I lied to PROVE I was not and not ask me to prove that I was. And that the Bible warns us against those speaking in Tongues without an interpreter present is irrelevant.

Sigh! Just when did you come to France from Naija? Recently?

Keep on deceiving yourself here. Please if you are in short of valuable points, quit the discussion than resorting to childish misconstruing of statements to score cheap points. Soon now you'll say he said "a miracle will happen in 2015".

His prophecy says MIRACULOUS COMPLETION OF PROJECTS. Sure you don't know what a miracle is and that's why you say that's not a prophecy. Dangote builds a state of the art estate in Lekki, Lagos is a project completion but not miraculous because everyone knows he has the resources to do so. One rural village peasant farmer builds a 3 storey building in Gwarimpa Estate is miraculous because by his status as a peasant farmer he doesn't have what it takes to achieve such a project.

So i still wonder, Mr Enlightened how that according to you isn't a prophecy. Blab again, i'm still waiting.

KoloOyinbo:
OK. The PROSECUTOR is the one MAKING THE ORIGINAL STATEMENT - that you have done something.
You disagree with them so the burden of proof is on them.
Court was perhaps not a clear analogy for you. Just read any basic book or logic or have a chat with any teacher and you will be enlightened.

Now as for your silly justification of each so called prophesy? Do we really have to debate them? Are they not self obvious nonsense?

Take were you said I missed the word FULL! Of course I did not. You merely did not think! There are between 7 to 8 billion people on this planet. Please tell me what FULL means. It can be interpreted as anything!

I will let you try and figure out the others for yourself but YOU yourself could have said any of these. And if you were unscrupulous enough to claim God told you perhaps some gullible fools would give you money also!

Hahaha. And you'll be the 1st later to talk about who's stooping low to insults. Ok! Now your cluelessness still doesn't let you see how you've been making a fool of yourself all along?

You come up again with one of those your flawed logics. "THE PROSECUTOR is the one MAKING THE ORIGINAL STATEMENT that you have done something......" What thing did the man of God say you did that now makes him the prosecutor? Is your brain failing you again? You were the one who came out boldly and accused him of fallacy/false prophecies, or are you now saying the accused is also the presecutor? C'mon! What kinda retarded fellow are you? And you claim you are one 58-59 dude? Heard of a fool at forty? You should be the one going back to your teacher to get enlightened and that's if you can even grasp anything. I still await your next post and another failed attempt to exhibit smartness.

You ask me what is meant by FULL? Well, if you don't know the difference between "i have A TESTIMONY" and "i'm FULL OF TESTIMONIES", then it's a clear indication to your baseless rantings.

And for your 7-8 billion whatever, the prophecy says "ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO OBSERVED THE 100DAYS FAST". Don't know what business that has got to do with your billions postulation.

Learn to read attentively and in-between lines.

KoloOyinbo:
Sigh.

Can I guess you are not native French? That would account for much.

You don't understand it and are very wrong. I am guessing it is from stubbornness as it is quite clear. The statement (prosecution seems to confuse you) is the Prophesy. IT is the thing that needs proven.

Do we have to take each prophesy and show how it is nonsense?

1. The Lord says the harvest for the 100 days fast will be given this year.
2. Daddy says this year will be full of testimonies, those who have non before will have this year.
3. Daddy says some of you will swim in the river of abundance this year.
4. Daddy says there will be miraculous completion of projects.
5. Daddy says there will be fulfillment of dreams.
6. Daddy says there will be miraculous restoration.
7. Daddy says the song of many will be – The Lord has been good to me.

Number one can mean anything. If a good thing happens it will attributed to this 100 days fast. EVERYONE (fasters or otherwise) will have at least one good thing happen to them this year. So this is clearly nonsense for the weak minded.

Two. EVERY year is full of testimonies! It is like saying I prophesy the Sun will rise tomorrow.

Three. Some people will make it rich this year as they have EVERY year. (Especially those false prophets conning people out of their hard earned money)

Four Miraculous completion of projects. What projects? Engineering? ISO systems? Software projects? Social projects? There are so many the world over and some will be completed against all odds and to the surprise of doubters. Anyone can say this!

Five. Many people realise their ambitions/dreams every year. I have on many occasions! So again a 'blank reading' where the listener supplies a meaning (any meaning) to a vague utterance.

Six. A Miraculous restoration? What does this mean. Will Biafra be restored (only joking), will some minor Royal regain a crown somewhere. Will a repentant sinner be restored into the body of his congregation? Meaningless drivel that will be justified AFTER the event.

Seven. That's MY song. The Lord has been VERY good to me. Very good indeed. I am nearly 59 have achieved most of my life's ambitions. Have had two successful careers and now travel internationally as a Consultant (will be in Lagos and Abuja from the 11th to the 25th Jan). I enjoy good Christian fellowship and Bible study, have reasonable health (especially for a 58 year old), live in beautiful Ireland and only need to work two weeks a month! The Lord has been good to me. AND to many others also! This happens EVERY year.

Now please, as a supposedly educated person can you call any of the above nonsense prophesy.

Just because the fraudster that spouts this is exposed please don't doubt your Christianity. Even good Christians can be lead astray or fooled by those claiming to speak for God. (And charging plenty of money for it!)

4. There will be miraculous completion of projects. Perhaps you don't know what MIRACLE means. If you did, i'd marvel you still ask if this is a prophecy.

5. There will be fulfillment of dreams. Anybody could fulfill a dream, but again some people have this as prayer requests. So it could be words of strenghtening and encouragement to a few who have been praying for it. Don't see how that makes it less of a prophecy.

6. There will be miraculous restorations. And again prophet Joel prophesied "i will repay/restore the years the locusts have eaten...." Joel 2:25. And still it doesn't seem like a prophecy to you. How will it? The same problem besetting you down.

7. The song of many will be "the Lord has been good to me", and i still quote prophet Joel's prophecy "and you will praise the name of the Lord your God who has worked wonders for you" Joel 2:26. Now you still can't see the prophecy or was prophet Joel also blabbing? Hehehehe. Ok o

KoloOyinbo:
Sigh.

Can I guess you are not native French? That would account for much.

You don't understand it and are very wrong. I am guessing it is from stubbornness as it is quite clear. The statement (prosecution seems to confuse you) is the Prophesy. IT is the thing that needs proven.

Do we have to take each prophesy and show how it is nonsense?

1. The Lord says the harvest for the 100 days fast will be given this year.
2. Daddy says this year will be full of testimonies, those who have non before will have this year.
3. Daddy says some of you will swim in the river of abundance this year.
4. Daddy says there will be miraculous completion of projects.
5. Daddy says there will be fulfillment of dreams.
6. Daddy says there will be miraculous restoration.
7. Daddy says the song of many will be – The Lord has been good to me.

Number one can mean anything. If a good thing happens it will attributed to this 100 days fast. EVERYONE (fasters or otherwise) will have at least one good thing happen to them this year. So this is clearly nonsense for the weak minded.

Two. EVERY year is full of testimonies! It is like saying I prophesy the Sun will rise tomorrow.

Three. Some people will make it rich this year as they have EVERY year. (Especially those false prophets conning people out of their hard earned money)

Four Miraculous completion of projects. What projects? Engineering? ISO systems? Software projects? Social projects? There are so many the world over and some will be completed against all odds and to the surprise of doubters. Anyone can say this!

Five. Many people realise their ambitions/dreams every year. I have on many occasions! So again a 'blank reading' where the listener supplies a meaning (any meaning) to a vague utterance.

Six. A Miraculous restoration? What does this mean. Will Biafra be restored (only joking), will some minor Royal regain a crown somewhere. Will a repentant sinner be restored into the body of his congregation? Meaningless drivel that will be justified AFTER the event.

Seven. That's MY song. The Lord has been VERY good to me. Very good indeed. I am nearly 59 have achieved most of my life's ambitions. Have had two successful careers and now travel internationally as a Consultant (will be in Lagos and Abuja from the 11th to the 25th Jan). I enjoy good Christian fellowship and Bible study, have reasonable health (especially for a 58 year old), live in beautiful Ireland and only need to work two weeks a month! The Lord has been good to me. AND to many others also! This happens EVERY year.

Now please, as a supposedly educated person can you call any of the above nonsense prophesy.

Just because the fraudster that spouts this is exposed please don't doubt your Christianity. Even good Christians can be lead astray or fooled by those claiming to speak for God. (And charging plenty of money for it!)

You actually don't seem to know the meaning of the word you used and that's why you can't see how much you've contradicted yourself. I'll be gracious enough to assist you however.

Prosecution means to legally accuse someone in a court of commiting a crime. It also means a lawyer who tries to prove in a law court that the accused is guilty of the crime he/she is being accused of. (called THE PROSECUTION).

You said the burden of proof is on the prosecution to substantiate his claim that the other person is guilty. Now who is the prosecutor here; the man of God who prophesied or you who have accused him of fallacy? How then is the burden of proof (according to your court scenario) upon someone you have accused? Now who is the confused fella here? I wonder if it's that you don't even know the meaning of things you say or that you lack a clear understanding of the proper usage of words you spew out here?

Again you try to play smart but unfortunately you lack even an iota of smartness in you.

To the prophecies;

1. The harvest of the 100days fast will be given this year. People don't fast without prayer points much more a 100days fasting. The answers to prayers of the 100days fast will be rolling in this year, that's the harvest. Wonder how that isn't a prophecy. Of course you are too myopic in thought to reason that out.

2. This year will be full of testimonies. Of course everybody has a testimony (atleast that one is alive and healthy are testimonies). Did you notice the word "FULL"? Of course NOT! How would you. Blindness to sentiments and baseless criticisms wouldn't let you see beyond the surface of a line of words.

3. Some persons will swim in the river of abundance this year. Prophet Joel prophesied to the people of Israel saying "you will have plenty to eat, until you are full...." Joel 2:26. Does that mean some people weren't having plenty to eat then or was he also a false prophet? Again your myopic thoughts betray you.

KoloOyinbo:
This shows you could not even follow the explanation!

The false prophet makes a statement.

He must now prove it!

BURDEN OF PROOF!

It is easy!

How much you keep confusing yourself.

NO! You made the prosecution, substantiate your claim.

BURDEN OF PROOF

Very much easier of course!

KoloOyinbo:
You were given the answer. Sorry if you did not like it!

Hahahahaha. Here in France, when attempts to answer simple questions gets to this stage, we require no further prodding to make our verdict.

Thanks for attempting still.
#Peace#

KoloOyinbo:
NO! You lack logic. The Burden of proof rest on the person making the initial statement!

They is why if you are accused of a crime and taken to court the burden of proof is on the prosecution to substantiate the claim that you have committed the crime, NOT on you to prove them liars or mistaken.

Did you miss that day at school?

Wow! Indeed you have logic sir. Hahahaha. There is no way to hide from this for you. Lies beget lies, and of course a lie can't be used to cover another lie. I knew you'd keep throwing out them lies until you put yourself in a corner where you can't cover the lies any more.

You have just given your court scenario and said the burden of proof lies on the prosecution to substantiate the claim you committed a crime and not you to prove them liars or mistaken.

So what have we been all about all these while? You have accused the man of God of a crime and prosecuted him as a liar. How come you still have maintained all these while that the BURDEN OF PROOF is on him to clear himself otherwise. Isn't it so obvious now from your court case-study that you, the prosecutor should be the one substantiating you claims he's a liar and not him proving you've mistaken?

Logic there again right? Come up with another logic too, lthou great logician. It's obvious now, who missed that day at school.

KoloOyinbo:
Read the Bible and see! Do not use any vagueness on their part to excuse falsehoods by the con artists seeking money and acclaim from their pulpits.

That still isn't the answer to that very simple question. Is it too difficult for you to answer now?

KoloOyinbo:
So now you have sunk so low as insult!

(Still don't know where the hurt and jealousy come in? Figments of your over active imagination I guess)

Sigh. You could not even understand the posts?

You did not even understand burden of proof!

Perhaps the level of Christianity you display is a result of listening to these false prophets.

Simple (indeed very simple) answers were given to EVERY question if you troubled to read them. Perhaps you did not do so which is kinfer than saying you could not understand.

Hahahahaha. Perhaps you were so over-zealous not to even notice when you sank lower to first initiate the insult.

Please someone else reading these posts should be gracious enough to point out where he answered the question i asked about Moses, Isaiah and other prophets telling us the date of Christ's birth in their prophesies about the coming of Christ. Perhaps i dont understand posts like he said.

Well, i knew this was how it was gonna pan out. Shying away from direct questions with simple answers has been your style all through this discussion.

ADVICE: Never begin a campaign for stuffs you do not have CONCRETE ANSWERS to.

#Peace#

KoloOyinbo:
The 'prophesies' are no specific and so are NOT prophesies! Proof enough to an intelligent person.

You don't understand burden of proof or logic.

Take you own example. You say an egg is oval you prove it by showing the egg and behold we see it is!

If you say it is a cube and I say you lie then YOU must still prove it is a cube. You show it and behold we see the lie.

The original assertion is the one requiring proof. The so called prophesies are the original statement and so it is they that must be proven.

IF I had agreed with these prophesies then the burden of proof is still to prove the prophesy true.

SIMPLE isn't it? (Or are you still confused).

Seriously though I realise that this is a ploy to divert from the fact that the so called prophesies are nonsense. I spend a LOT of time in Nigeria and its education system (although it does have some problems) is NOT so bad nor are you so stupid and ignorant that you cannot see he point.

You keep on hammering "Burden of proof"; you clearly don't even know what that implies still. Burden of proof rests on anyone who makes any statement someone else contends its credibility. You made a statement that something is false and i contend against your statement. So why shouldn't you be bearing that burden of proof to prove me wrong? The man of God made his statements and i don't have an issue with them. You made yours and i have issues with yours, so who should be giving proofs to me?

"Burden of proof" indeed. What a shallow-thought plot to escape my insistence of PROOF since you have none of course. Good riddance, but you ain't smart enough.